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Title: Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot; Dad: 'Entire tea party' her enemy
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URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nation ... rRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATapcbLU
Published: Jan 8, 2011
Author: KATHIANNE BONIELLO and CANDICE M. GIOVE
Post Date: 2011-01-08 16:10:39 by Skip Intro
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Views: 86673
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Ariz. Congresswoman Giffords shot; Dad: 'Entire tea party' her enemy

Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was clinging to life after a gunman shot her in the head in front of an Arizona grocery store where she was holding a public event, authorities said.

The three-term Democrat, who might have been shot at point blank range, was airlifted to University Medical Center in Tuscon where she was undergoing surgery, Reuters reported.

Nine others, including a child, also seriously injured in the bloody shooting spree were also being treated there, according to reports.

President Barack Obama said some are dead and Giffords was "gravely wounded." He called the shooting "an unspeakable tragedy" and that such "a senseless and terrible act of violence has no place in a free society.

The congresswoman’s father Spencer Gifford, 75, was rushing to the hospital when asked if his 40-year-old daughter had any enemies.

"Yeah," he told The Post. "The whole tea party."

He added that politicians constantly faced danger.

"They always get threat[ened]," Gifford cried. "We don’t really have any information. The Police department was supposed to call us but they didn’t."

The congresswoman was chatting up a couple during her first "Congress in Your Corner" event at the Tuscon Safeway when the maniacal gunman fired a fusillade of bullets at the crowd, reports said.

Giffords had excitedly promoted her event on Twitter.

"My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now," she wrote. "Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."

The gun-toting event crasher was tackled by a bystander and was taken into police custody, reports said.

"I am horrified by the senseless attack on Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and members of her staff," House Speaker John Boehner said in statement.

"An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. Acts and threats of violence against public officials have no place in our society. Our prayers are with Congresswoman Giffords, her staff, all who were injured, and their families. This is a sad day for our country."

The 40-year-old representative, who held her seat since 2007, held strong positions on immigration – a Arizona flashpoint issue.

It is yet unclear what motivated the shooter. Like many other democrats, Giffords was threatened after the passage of health care reform in March, when the door to her Tuscon office had been smashed.The congresswoman, who held her seat since 2007, was married to U.S. astronaut Mark Kelly.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/ariz_congresswoman_shot_in_head_YFTvsurRHy5OWGSRKnuK8J#ixzz1ATqCjY4S

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#60. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

for people to act against certain Democrats

doesn't have the temperament

You are just no one I take serious

your distortion

What type of action, weasel? Targeting with what? A semi-automatic pistol?

Which proves you are as ignorant as I said you were.

Like I GAS, weasel? I'll expose you phony, hypocritical assholes with relish.

You fookin hypocrite. You are the distorter and spinmeister. I'll challenge your bullshit at every turn, ASSHOLE!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Skip Intro (#59)

Spin spin spin. This was left on left crime and you can ignore it at your peril.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   22:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Rudgear (#61)

More peace loving teabaggers not threatening anyone.

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   22:39:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Rudgear (#61)

This was left on left crime and you can ignore it at your peril.

I'll ignore it until you provide me with some proof.

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   22:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Skip Intro (#62)

Left on Left crime. Coming to an election near you.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   22:42:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Skip Intro (#63)

You have access to all the proof you need. You chose not to see it and ignore the testimony of those who knew him. Left on Left crime. Accept it.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-08   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Rudgear, skip intro (#64)

A week in tea party politics:

July 2, 2010—The Wyoming Department of Revenue suspends sales tax collections at the state's gun shows because of "increasing animosity" toward field tax agents. Dan Noble, director of the department's Excise Tax Division, cites one particular incident at a gun show that "crossed the line" and says, "We tend to have more trouble at gun shows than any place ... I have 10 field reps throughout the state, and every one of them has experienced some animosity ... I don't want to put my people at risk."

July 3, 2010—Joyce Kaufman, a conservative radio hosts on WFTL in Florida, tells a crowd of supporters at a Fort Lauderdale Tea Party event, “I am convinced that the most important thing the Founding Fathers did to ensure me my First Amendments rights was they gave me a Second Amendment. And if ballots don’t work, bullets will. This is the standoff. When I say I’ll put my microphone down on November 2nd if we haven’t achieved substantial victory, I mean it. Because if at that point I’m going to up into the hills of Kentucky, I’m going to go out into the Midwest, I’m going to go up in the Vermont and New Hampshire outreaches and I’m going to gather together men and women who understand that some things are worth fighting for and some things are worth dying for.”

July 6, 2010—Herb Titus, a lawyer for Gun Owners of America, tells Religion Dispatches, "If you have a people that has basically been disarmed by the civil government, then there really isn't any effectual means available to the people to restore law and liberty and that's really the purpose of the right to keep and bear arms—is to defend yourself against a tyrant." Titus goes on to cite the "totalitarian threat" posed by "Obamacare" and "what Sarah Palin said about the death panels."

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-08   22:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Skip Intro, Rudgear (#63)

I'll ignore it

You're stupid enough, skidmark!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Rudgear, skip intro (#61) (Edited)

Spin spin spin. This was left on left crime and you can ignore it at your peril.

See Skip, the left now argues for a return to the gold standard and against federal tyranny.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-08   22:44:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#58)

Yeah, the above quote from that KOS piece of how they called for people to act against certain Democrats in this caucus piece sounds horrible.

"organizing" is codeword for "shoot"

Don't you realize that?

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-08   22:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ibluafartsky (#67)

"You're stupid enough"

Oh, such biting political discussion. You just come in to do the bull spewing bull as it tries to tear up the china shop.

You are transparent to us all, and thus it sucks to be you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: go65 (#69)

"organizing" is codeword for "shoot"

I agree. I've been expecting something like this to happen for quite some time as I watched the Tea Terror movement try to build to a Kristallnacht against people on the left which they were unable to build a member base to support.

Terrorism is a natural way for Tea peeps to go, as they are born of the political mindset of the end justifies the means.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Ferret Mike (#70)

You are transparent to us all,

To the intelligent you're full of shit .

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ibluafartsky (#72)

Shit is your breakfast, puke, your lunch, and burnt babies your dinner.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: go65 (#68)

See Skip, the left now argues for a return to the gold standard and against federal tyranny.

And they're really good with guns.

Who'd a thunk it?

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   22:55:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: go65 (#68)

I still want to know his motive. I want to know if he had a 50 year old handler/instigator.

He's young, very young.

I wish you guys would get off this left right tea bagger dKos speculation.

Why did he do it and who (if anyone) helped him?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-08   22:56:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ferret Mike (#73)

Shit is your breakfast, puke, your lunch, and burnt babies your dinner.

You just eat lib dick all day long, penis breath.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Skip Intro, go65 (#74)

Who'd a thunk it?

You have to have a brain to think, so you two do have a problem.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   22:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Ibluafartsky (#76)

YuJuAtIck, all daze logue, dong.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   22:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Ibluafartsky (#77)

You two and too are doo.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   23:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Ibluafartsky (#77)

Come on, post faster, dim Shitte.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   23:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Fred Mertz (#75)

Why did he do it and who (if anyone) helped him?

The guy sounds like a paranoid schizophrenic.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-08   23:02:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Ferret Mike (#80)

You just eat lib dick all day long, penis breath.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   23:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Ibluafartsky (#82)

Yew yum yous when you spew.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   23:06:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lucysmom (#81)

We know very little about him - at least I do. Did he graduate high school? Where? Did he participate in sports? etc.

I saw his reading list - more than half were required books back in my day - I could be exaggerating, but not intentionally.

I just wish we could get the political speculation out of the criminal investigation.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-08   23:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Fred Mertz (#84)

We know very little about him - at least I do. Did he graduate high school? Where? Did he participate in sports? etc.

Where the hell have you been all day?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-08   23:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Ibluafartsky (#85)

What a Hell of a daze you have sinned in all Dade.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   23:13:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Fred Mertz (#84)

I just wish we could get the political speculation out of the criminal investigation.

Unfortunately when a political candidate talked about "second amendment remedies", and another political figure released a map identifying particular races in certain districts with cross hairs, it is difficult to avoid political speculation when a politician in one such identified district is shot.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-08   23:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: lucysmom (#87)

Rep. Bob Filner (D) blames right-wing media for Giffords shooting

Source: press release just issued by Filner

Congressman Bob Filner (D-San Diego) issued a press statement remembering his fallen colleague. “Gabby Giffords is a good legislator and a good friend. We work closely together as U.S./Mexico border Congressmembers. We pray for her full recovery."

Filner faulted incendiary talk radio programming as contributing to a climate that may have encouraged today's violence. "I cannot help but believe that the violent context of the recent election is responsible for this tragedy," he said. "Many of us were physically threatened by those who believed they were “right” and we were “wrong” – we were “enemies,” rather than sincere people with different opinions. Their incendiary talk – given legitimacy by equally incendiary talk shows – make violence an acceptable political tactic. Violence as acceptable – bolstered by easy access to guns – made this tragedy almost inevitable. Let us all resolve to recommit ourselves to what is truly exceptional about America – that we conduct our politics with debate and respect, not violence.”

We are going to see the Tea Terror Group get the hosing they have long deserved for their baitful and hateful way of doing political advocacy.

It is going to suck to be them for quite a while to come, maybe right up until the next election cycle plays out.

And it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. They will reap what the have sowed.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-01-08   23:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: lucysmom (#87)

Yeah, I saw that one early on. I've read that Palin purged her web site.

I just did read a more in depth article on the alleged shooter. Superficial stuff, but interesting.

He could be one of those mind control candidates IMO.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-01-08   23:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Fred Mertz (#84)

I just wish we could get the political speculation out of the criminal investigation.

Hard to do when two of the victims are a politician and a judge who was targeted for death by Talk Radio two years ago.

“Commonsense Conservatives & lovers of America: "Don't Retreat, Instead - RELOAD!" Pls see my Facebook page.” - Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-01-08   23:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Fred Mertz (#89)

He could be one of those mind control candidates IMO.

I's bet that he thinks so.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-08   23:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Ferret Mike (#88)

"I cannot help but believe that the violent context of the recent election is responsible for this tragedy," he said. "Many of us were physically threatened by those who believed they were “right” and we were “wrong” – we were “enemies,” rather than sincere people with different opinions. Their incendiary talk – given legitimacy by equally incendiary talk shows – make violence an acceptable political tactic. Violence as acceptable – bolstered by easy access to guns – made this tragedy almost inevitable."

IMHO, there is a lot of truth in that.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-08   23:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Fred Mertz (#84)

I just wish we could get the political speculation out of the criminal investigation.
Neighbors said they were shocked by the shooting. They described Loughner as a loner and outcast with a tendency to dress in all-black "goth-type clothes."

www.usatoday.com/news/was...1-08-jared-loughner_N.htm

The shooter is a pot smoking Goth. Things are bound to get political when a Goth attacks a Blue Dog Democrat congresscritter.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-01-09   0:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Skip Intro (#47)

Gee, I guess I'd start trying to murder Congresswomen,...

I believe you would. Most would not, that's why they join together in a "tea party".

eskimo  posted on  2011-01-09   2:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: lucysmom (#87)

Unfortunately when a political candidate talked about "second amendment remedies", and another political figure released a map identifying particular races in certain districts with cross hairs, it is difficult to avoid political speculation when a politician in one such identified district is shot.

Those liberal assholes at Daily Kos appear to be culpable.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2011-01-09   4:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Ferret Mike (#88)

We are going to see the Tea Terror Group get the hosing they have long deserved for their baitful and hateful way of doing political advocacy.

my wife has been a tea party fan for over a year while I've kept telling her to take a hard look at the rhetoric, last night she saw a clip on the news that showed all the pro-violence talk coming from the tea party and was absolutely appalled.

Since January 3, 2011, Republicans have controlled the power of the purse.

go65  posted on  2011-01-09   9:31:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Ibluafartsky (#95)

Those liberal assholes at Daily Kos appear to be culpable.

Has Daily Kos sponsored rallies promoting gun ownership to protect themselves from government, suggested second amendment remedies, held an event to to "Get On Target For Victory In November. Help Remove Gabrielle For Office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."?

www.allyourtv.com/index.p...78:featurescoveringmedia#

Right wing nuts seem to be scrubbing their web sites of violence promoting evidence; what they're not doing is taking any responsibility for normalizing violent ideology in our culture. Like you, they point a finger at Democrats and whine "he did it too" (so much for the party of personal responsibility).

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2011-01-09   10:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: go65 (#68)

Hey! Did you know Fred Phelps is a DEMOCRAT? One ho hates fags? And now he and his 'church' are going to picket the funeral of the nine year old girl who was killed?

Left on Left crime. The next big thing. Sorta like those Bolsheviks creating trouble in 1917. Say hi to Bolshevik Barry Hussein Soetoro next time you see him.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-09   10:47:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Rudgear, go65 (#98)

Left on Left crime. The next big thing. Sorta like those Bolsheviks creating trouble in 1917.

Soon, this will become very obvious. Those political "left" types, advocating socialism or Marxist ideals, have to be emotional misfits. A rational person would not adopt a political dogma that has proven to be an abject failure throughout the history of this planet. Those, in this country, embracing Marxist ideals can not argue their case from the point of our Constitution or the words of the Founding Fathers, all they can do is spit hate and demonize those who can.

It only follows that these emotionally unstable types become disillusioned with their chosen socialist administrators and turn on them. They see those administrators amassing wealth while their lives become more difficult. Other than a mental malady, how could one explain these people not realizing that socialist societies end with the corrupt administrators absconding with all the wealth leaving the majority of people in abject poverty.

eskimo  posted on  2011-01-09   11:56:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: eskimo (#99)

I wish I came up with the response 'Liberalism is a mental disorder' since I think it is on target, but I didn't. I think the abandonment of classical education left the door open to the kind of magical thinking and immature relativist thinking that are the hallmarks of the Left all around the world.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-01-09   12:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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