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Title: Marine General Says Faggots Will Get Marines Killed
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URL Source: http://theharpomarxistbrigade.blogs ... ral-says-faggots-will-get.html
Published: Dec 21, 2010
Author: harpomarxistbrigade
Post Date: 2010-12-21 09:08:29 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 4963
Comments: 25

The Marine Corps' "top" general suggested Tuesday that allowing gays to serve openly in the military could result in more casualties because their presence on the battlefield would pose "a distraction."

"When you're out in the field fearing for your life, sexual release is often sought to relieve stress - well, that and alcohol and drugs - shit, you might die and you know that. So when your life hangs on the line, you might find yourself wanting to let something else hang out, and that might be a problem" said Gen. James F. Amos, the commandant of the Marine Corps, "and we don't want anything distracting Marines from their mission, which is I remind you, to kill people who do not do what we, meaning the people who own America, want them to do. We can counter contra-band, but we cannot counter body parts belonging to our killers . . Mistakes and inattention or distractions cost Marines' lives."

In an interview with newspaper and wire service reporters at the Pentagon, Amos was embarrassed when pressed to clarify how the presence of gays would distract Marines during a firefight. "You know, some guys start beating off when shit starts blowing up all around them. They just flip out. Where, exactly, do you think the term 'skull fucking' comes from?"

He cited a recent Defense Department survey in which a large percentage of Marine combat veterans predicted that repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" law would harm "unit cohesion" and their tight-knit training for war.

"That's of course their false consciousness expressing itself in socially acceptible forms. It isn't like we can honestly tell them that effective killers are those whose stress levels dispose them to act viciously when provoked. The Marines came back and they said, 'Look, anything that's going to break or potentially release suppressed libido and have us lose focus and cause any kind of distraction may have an effect on cohesion. It reminded me of the Marines who died in Korea because they kept glancing at the black Marines we had to let be Marines instead of keeping their eyes on the Yellow Horde that was the real enemy' " he said.

"I don't want to permit that opportunity to happen. And I'll tell you why. If you go up to Bethesda [Naval] Hospital . . . Marines are up there with no legs, none. We've got Marines at Walter Reed [Army Medical Center] with no limbs. Bad enough we have to blame the Afghanis and Iraqi's who just want us to get the fuck out of their country because we have no goddamn business being there, but now we'll have to blame the bone smokers and carpet munchers too. You want that?"

Amos had said previously that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly could cause "distractions" and "risks" for combat units. But his remarks Tuesday were the first time that he or any other senior military leader has suggested that repealing the 17-year-old "don't ask, don't tell" law could directly endanger troops and cost lives.

The Marine Corps - which prides itself on its macho image - and its leaders have been more resistant to overturning the law than other branches of the armed forces.

The Defense Department survey, released last month, found that 58 percent of those in Marine combat arms units predicted that repeal would negatively affect their ability to "work together to get the job done."

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

stars and stripes, december 20, 2010:

ARLINGTON, Va. – One week after warning the distraction of repealing “don’t ask, don’t tell” could risk Marines’ lives, Gen. James Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps, pledged to lead the effort to integrate openly gay Marines.

“I, and the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps [Carlton Kent], will personally lead this effort, thus ensuring the respect and dignity due all Marines,” Amos said. “On this matter, we look forward to further demonstrating to the American people the discipline and loyalty that have been the hallmark of the United States Marine Corps for over 235 years


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-21   9:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes, fred mertz, skip intro (#0)

ok, who wants to let no gnu know that the story he posted is made up?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-21   9:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Marine General is an Oxymoron.

Should be sent to War College Leavenworth. When flunking out, sent to nearby 're education' camp.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-21   9:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#2) (Edited)

TheHarpoMarxistBrigade

Leftist Comedy Relief From a Mute Screaming at the Deaf in a vacuum

Hehe, yep, it is made up. It's simular to an onion piece. For one thing, I could see it was contrived with it claiming a flag officer talked about "skull fucking." Whatever his belief system, no general would ever be so childish as to talk like a drunk recruit.

This story is much more real on many more levels than the contrived homophobe piece:

Vet Calls Out Gen. Amos for Antigay Insult

December 16th, 2010 at 11:30 am by Erin Rook

Marine Corps commandant Gen. James F. Amos, one of the few and most vocal opponents of repealing “Don;t ask, don’t tell” among the military’s top brass, suggested Tuesday that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly could create “distraction” and instability, even the loss of life and limb, The Advocate reports.

While Amos’s comments likely offend all gay and lesbian servicemembers and their allies, the remarks were especially hurtful to Staff Sgt. Eric Alva, a gay Marine veteran who lost a limb while serving in Iraq. Alva was the first Marine to be seriously injured in the war when he stepped on a landmine and had to have his right leg amputated.

“He pretty much spit on me, my Purple Heart, and my 13 years of service,” Alva said Wednesday in response to Amos’s comments. “I would definitely ask Amos for a meeting to explain his comments, and I’d bring my Purple Heart with me.”

Amos made the comment in response to questions from reporters at the Pentagon:

Mistakes and inattention or distractions costs Marines lives. … I don’t want to lose any Marines to the distraction. I don’t want to have any Marines that I’m visiting at Bethesda [National Naval Medical Center] with no legs be the result of any type of distraction.

Alva, who received a medical discharge from the Marines, said Amos’s behavior was tantamount to insubordination and called for the general’s ouster.

“I wish Obama would invite [Amos] to the White House and fire his ass on the spot,” Alva told The Advocate.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:13:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

i would expect Amos will be forced to retire fairly soon.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-21   10:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

“He pretty much spit on me, my Purple Heart, and my 13 years of service,” Alva said Wednesday in response to Amos’s comments. “I would definitely ask Amos for a meeting to explain his comments, and I’d bring my Purple Heart with me.”

Get over it rump ranger. With that artificial limb and a big government disability check each month, you can be back cruising the junior high playgrounds full time.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-12-21   10:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#6)

No check is a replacement for a lost limb. You need to get over your irrational bigotry. It even poisons you toward the end of accusing those repelled by your bigotry of being the focus of your childish scapegoating to compensate for your innermost short comings as a human being.

I honor any veteran that has gone to war and made a sacrifice. I am glad he didn't die. We need more politically couragious and focussed people like this to continue taking on the baiters and haters like you. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#6)

Oh yes, I am amused at how testy bigots get when their piece is outted as a sham. Sorry about your bad luck. Not.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

made a sacrifice for what, rodent?

the banksters and insewrance companies?

they sacrificed so the corporations could cut down more of your precious trees.

not only are you wrong, but you're also self-defeating in your Christian piety.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-21   10:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: continental op (#9)

I know you despise veterans as dupes and fools. But this is your problem, not mine.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#10) (Edited)

Oh, let's not personalize it. Most people are ignorant sheeple.

but who goes around hating livestock?

my tactics are intended to make other people despise veterans and prevent young men from joining the military.

it's not like I've got this blind hatred of camo-clad clowns.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-21   10:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

It even poisons you toward the end of accusing those repelled by your bigotry of being the focus of your childish scapegoating to compensate for your innermost short comings as a human being.

You may want to ask for your money back spent on those night school psychology classes.

Just saying.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-12-21   10:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: continental op (#11)

Military recruiting has been booming since the economy and unemployment went tits up in 2008. It went from famine to feast in the past six or so years.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-21   10:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: continental op (#11)

"my tactics are intended to make other people despise veterans and prevent young men from joining the military."

And how long would the United States exist with no military?

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

- John Stuart Mill - English economist & philosopher (1806 – 1873)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: All (#0)

Glad to see ALL the site trolls are in one place stoking each others paranoid fears and deep-seeded anger. Now if we could nuke this thread from orbit, it would be the only way to be sure . . .

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2010-12-21   10:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

Well, there are two answers to that, rodent.

First answer: I don't give a damn if the U.S. falls. I don't give damn about the Constitution or the American people. I want to see the U.S. Government destroyed.

Second Answer: Armies are antiquated jokes. tanks and infantry

the AMerican military would get its ass kicked in any standup fight with equals and everyone knows it.

you pit an Russian battalion against an American battalion in any kind of infantry manuver and the Russians will whip them.

our nukes are the only thing that maintains our supremacy. so who needs an army?

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-21   10:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes (#12)

http://www.basicrights.org/

Actually, I am a long time member of Basic Rights Oregon. I am one of many activists who helped make the homophobic Oregon Citizen's Alliance that was trying to pass anti-gay ballot measures history.

My experiance in defending the rights of gays, lesbians, and transgender people is extensive and I know much more about it than one can get in a few courses.

;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz (#13)

In other words, it's a good time to try to stop young men from joining, Freddy, you defeatist loser.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-21   10:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: continental op (#16)

Yes, I knew you only care about yourself. So?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-12-21   10:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

Think I pointed out, once, years ago, that you were a National Socialist, rodent.

you have these feelings of nationalism, and you're a socialist. mix 'em together and I can easily see you and Ernst Rohm marching for ghey rites in the streets of Berlin.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-21   10:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#17)

I predict in the near future that the term homosexual will become obsolete. In the future, such activities will just be referred to as "Army sex."

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-12-21   10:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: continental op (#20)

oh for pete's sake, don't you have something better to do on your christmas vacation from middle school.

There's hundred of vagrants who need a good dick sucking, we know your jaws, knees and ass are sore but come on, bend over and spread that christmas cheer.

Continental Op was thrown out of the Afgan "dancing boys" for being too gay.

calcon  posted on  2010-12-21   11:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

Do you have any reading comprehension at all, idiot?

"Leftist Comedy Relief From a Mute Screaming at the Deaf in a Vacuum"

From your post above.

You join Boofer in the stupid club basement here.

"Religion is like a penis: it is okay if you have one, it is okay to be proud of it, just don't take it out and wave it around and don't shove it down my kid's throat."

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-12-21   12:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: calcon (#22)

you ever get tired of your homo fantasies?

one of these days, you're going to regret acting like an idiot.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-21   13:09:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: continental op (#24)

you ever get tired of your homo fantasies?

one of these days, you're going to regret acting like an idiot.

oh please, try doing some homework over your christmas vacation, maybe 3 times will be the charm for you getting out of 6th grade.

Continental Op was thrown out of the Afgan "dancing boys" for being too gay.

calcon  posted on  2010-12-22   16:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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