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Title: WH (Obama) Insists Health Law Rollout Unaffected By a Negative Federal Court Ruling
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101215 ... _bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul
Published: Dec 14, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-12-14 21:18:11 by Murron
Keywords: None
Views: 5593
Comments: 8

WH (Obama) Insists Health Law Rollout Unaffected By a Negative Federal Court Ruling

WASHINGTON – The White House insisted Tuesday that the implementation of President Barack Obama's landmark health care law will not be affected by a negative federal court ruling, and the Justice Department said it would appeal.

"There's no practical impact at all as states move forward in implementing ... the law that Congress passed and the president signed," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters.

Justice Department spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler said that, as expected, the department would appeal Monday's ruling by U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson in Virginia. Hudson declared that a central provision of the law — the requirement for nearly everyone to carry health insurance — was unconstitutional.

The ruling by the Republican-appointed judge in a high-profile lawsuit by Virginia's Republican attorney general was a setback for the Obama administration, but not a surprise. Two other district court judges, both Democratic appointees, have found the law constitutional.

Obama administration officials noted that consultations with states on implementing the law were moving forward. Later this week officials from all but a handful of states are expected to travel to Washington to meet with the Health and Human Services Department to discuss setting up the state-based insurance marketplaces, called exchanges, required by the new law.

These include officials from many of the 20 states that are simultaneously suing to overturn the law in a fourth case which begins oral arguments Thursday in Florida. Many state officials have concluded that it's better to participate in discussions on implementing the law than not, even if they don't support it. Even so, Republican members of Congress seized on Hudson's ruling to caution states against moving forward.

Central provisions of the law including the exchanges and the requirement for everyone to be insured don't take effect until 2014 anyway. By then the Supreme Court will likely have weighed in with the final verdict on the health law.

Virginia Gov. Robert McDonnell, a Republican, urged the Obama administration Tuesday to join him in seeking to take the cases straight to the Supreme Court, bypassing the appeals process, in order to provide certainty for states and businesses. Such a course is highly unusual, and the Justice Department weighed in against it.

"The department believes this case should follow the ordinary course of allowing the courts of appeals to hear it first so the issues and arguments can be fully developed before the Supreme Court decides whether to consider it," Schmaler said.

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#1. To: Murron (#0) (Edited)

it's not impacted yet - the provisions ruled unconstitutional don't take effect until 2014. All of this is theater right now until Anthony Kennedy decides whether or not the individual is constitutional, probably next year. As the article notes, two other federal judges ruled it was constitutional. There's one more case in Florida which will likely come up with the same result as the ruling in Virginia this week.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-14   22:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

As the article notes, two other federal judges ruled it was constitutional. There's one more case in Florida which will likely come up with the same result as the ruling in Virginia this week.

I know, I read that, makes me wonder if these judges, all of them, are looking at the same piece of paper...lol

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina

Murron  posted on  2010-12-14   22:08:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Murron (#2)

I know, I read that, makes me wonder if these judges, all of them, are looking at the same piece of paper...lol

they look at it through their own filters. :-)

Do you read volokh.com? IMHO it's the best site on the net for all things law-related, they are mostly conservative. They have had a few really interesting takes on this week's ruling.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-14   22:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

Do you read volokh.com? IMHO it's the best site on the net for all things law-related, they are mostly conservative. They have had a few really interesting takes on this week's ruling.

No I haven't but I've bookmarked it, I'm always interested in new sites...thanks.

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina

Murron  posted on  2010-12-14   22:25:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Murron (#0)

I don't need no stinkin' courts! 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-15   9:12:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#1)

As the article notes, two other federal judges ruled it was constitutional.

The previous rulings are irrelevant, thats pure political spin at work, nothing more.

A glance at the history of such things shows this clearly.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-15   10:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#6)

The previous rulings are irrelevant, thats pure political spin at work, nothing more.

A glance at the history of such things shows this clearly.

All the rulings are irrelevant, it's going to end up at the USSC where Kennedy will be the swing-vote in a 5-4 ruling.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-15   10:52:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#7)

All the rulings are irrelevant, it's going to end up at the USSC where Kennedy will be the swing-vote in a 5-4 ruling.

We'll see how it plays out. I'm not sure it will be a 5-4 split, nor that Kennedy will be the deciding vote.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-15   10:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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