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Title: Will tea partiers protest the $858 billion tax deal?
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Published: Dec 10, 2010
Author: Cynthia Tucker
Post Date: 2010-12-10 16:52:41 by go65
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During the election season, tea party activists declared deficit-reduction one of their primary goals. The nation is swimming in red ink, they noted, posing a huge burden for generations to come. So I’m waiting for those tea party activists to mount a huge protest over the tax deal between President Obama and Republicans. It is expected to cost $858 billion over ten years. Where’s that tea party protest? Are they headed to Washington to denounce the deal, as they did repeatedly with the health care plan — which will lower the deficit over ten years? Yes, there are other things in the deal besides tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. But extending the tax cuts for all Americans for two years cost $675.2 billion. Extending them for the richest Americans — along with generous cuts to the estate tax — will cost about $50 billion over two years. Are the tea partiers at all concerned about that? Then were the ethanol subsidies, which most reasonable people agree are a spectacular waste of government resources — a giveaway to corn farmers. But farm state legislators wanted ethanol subsides included in the package, and they are there. Any day now, I’m sure, tea partiers will gather on the Mall to protest this big addition to the national deficit. Any of you have your bags packed for the party?
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#45. To: jwpegler (#43)
The reason companies don't move to Nevada and bring their skilled workforce with them is because Nevada doesn't have a skilled workforce? A second reason is Nevada's reputation (gambling and brothels). A lot of companies don't want to be associated with this, which is why Delaware leads in incorporations over Nevada even though they have very similar corporate privacy laws. Delaware has a franchise tax, Nevada does not. I know that Delaware was a favorite with banks because it didn't have usury laws. Companies like Silicon Graphics may be incorporated in Delaware, but located in California. I do agree that Nevada does have an undercurrent of sleaze. Declining wages paid by Casinos with few worker protections have become a drag on the state. The Casinos depend to a large extent on tourism for income, and a transient population from which to draw employees.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Actually it was Frederick Terman, the Cold War, the creation of Stanford Industrial Park, research grants from the DoD and the CIA that made Stanford and Silicon Valley. HP had a reputation as THE place to work in this area for decades because it treated employees decently. In return, HP enjoyed immense loyalty from its employees and respect in communities where they were located. Carly Fiorina changed that. ...the evil capitalist...blah, blah, blah Oh grow up!
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
You are both wrong. The "gulch" was a direct result of our inability to have "heavy lift", so we had to make things smaller and lighter. My father was involved in the lift side as an engineer for many years. NASA Ames was the center of this effort, which is just across the highway from the gulch. Shockley, (the inventor of the transistor), helped Fairchild and others to develop REAL "solid state" electronics for this purpose. Which were silicone based. Hence the gulch was born and when the computer came of age it was off to the races in the gulch. I know because I was there for a large part of it. In fact I was involved until the US gooberment started their VHLSI program and installed high level security on the industry participants. Which is a real pain in the ass, and makes everything harder for everyone involved. (Been there done that.) No more money for the extra hassle so F it. So I shook the silicone from my sandals and headed north. Now TRY to tell me that I'm wrong you ignorant bitch. Poor lucy
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History of Silicon Valley: In 1909, Charles Herrold started the first radio station in the United States with regularly scheduled programming in San Jose. Later that year, Stanford University graduate Cyril Elwell purchased the U.S. patents for Poulsen arc radio transmission technology and founded the Federal Telegraph Corporation (FTC) in Palo Alto. In 1935, Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard graduated in electrical engineering from Stanford University. The company originated in a garage in nearby Palo Alto during a fellowship they had with a past professor, Frederick Terman at Stanford. On and on and on... This was long before there was any Cold War or transistor.
Very good. We're on the RIGHT side of the curve. Share E-Mail Print It's income tax day -- the day of reckoning. Fortunes are spent trying to understand the tax code and file documents that accurately reflect taxes owed while attempting to legally minimize the amount that must be paid. In 2002, taxpayers spent an estimated 5.8 billion hours complying with the federal income tax code, according to the Tax Foundation. The total estimated cost of compliance was over $194 billion. That's equivalent to a 20.4-cent surcharge for every $1 in taxes collected! The agony of filing a tax return is a subject for psychiatrists and punsters, as well as politicians. Albert Einstein famously said: "The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." And he died in 1955, before it got really complicated. But it's not only the challenges of complying with the tax code that are misunderstood by so many. The real confusion arises over the impact of income taxes on generating tax revenues. Challenging tax assumptions At first glance, it seems logical to assume that if you raise tax rates, you'll increase revenues. And that if you cut tax rates, revenues will fall. But history clearly shows those assumptions are faulty. And if you put politics aside to look at the numbers, you can see that tax cuts actually increased revenues throughout the 20th century. John F. Kennedy proposed major tax cuts in 1963, and in February 1964, after his assassination, the top tax rate was cut to 70 percent from 91 percent. Tax revenues nearly doubled in the next four years. After Ronald Reagan cut taxes in the mid-1980s (and those tax cuts were phased in over a period of years), revenues grew to $1.2 trillion from $900 billion. In fact, Kennedy recognized the phenomenon that the government can get more revenues by cutting taxes in this famous statement: "An economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget, just as it will never produce enough jobs or enough profits. ... In short, it is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high today, and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the tax rates now." If tax cuts have worked to increase revenues, why, then, has our country run such huge deficits- The answer lies on the spending side. There has never in the last 50 years been a year of lower federal tax revenues than the previous year. And there has never been a year of lower spending. The gap grows when spending outpaces revenues. That's a fact understood by every family facing a budget. Another misperception is that tax cuts benefit the rich. Since the "rich" pay more in taxes, they do receive more benefits from a tax cut. But that's not to say the rich don't pay their fair share -- and an even greater share when rates drop. After the Kennedy tax cuts, the proportion of taxes collected from those in the top brackets surged. The same results came from the Reagan tax cuts. In 1981, the top 10 percent of taxpayers paid 48 percent of the taxes collected. But after the Reagan tax cuts were fully phased in, the same top 10 percent of taxpayers paid a 57 percent share of taxes collected. The reasons are logical. In the top brackets, people have a choice of working more or working less. If every extra dollar they earn is taxed at a high rate, they simply decide it's not worth it to work the extra hours -- or make the extra investments to expand their businesses. The United States is the best place on earth to live (pardon the chauvinism), so very few people leave to avoid taxes. But when rates get too high, people do resort to other measures, things like tax shelters and an underground cash economy, all of which distort the efficiency of our economic system. It's far better to have a reasonable and lower tax rate, which history has shown will bring in greater tax revenues. Spending restraint Then all we need is some restraint on spending to balance our budget. Today, on April 15, Income Tax Day, our tax code has become so complex that even the IRS can't give consistent answers to tax questions. This year, Americans worked until April 11 -- Tax Freedom Day -- to pay all their federal, state and local taxes. There must be a better system. The federal income tax was in its infancy when Will Rogers, who died in 1935, said: "The income tax has made more liars out of the American people than golf has!" Now, that's a Savage Truth. Thanks for playing, go56. And yes, I spelled your sig this way, because you're ass-backwards on everything else, it seemed apt. Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
Silicon Valley or the "gulch" as those who live and work there call it, is famous for it's SILICON based advanced electronics development and production. I CHALLENGE you to show me ANYWHERE the gulch was called the "silicon valley" before Shockely's invention of the transistor in 1956. But YOU CANNOT because there was no such thing anywhere in the world until 1956 when "solid state" circuits, (the point contact transistor) was INVENTED. Was there a basic aggregation of some electronics firms including HP before 1956? Yes, there certainly was. BUT it was NOT the "SILICON VALLEY", how could it be? Because there was no such thing as a silicon based circuit until 1956. So there was a place that had some concentration of electronics firms in the Sunnyvale area "long before any cold War or transistor", but IT WAS NOT THE SILICON Valley. Get it? "The Birth of "Silicon" Valley With a series of inventions, all made from "silicon," semiconductor at AT&T Bell Laboratory in 1947, Integrated Circuit (IC) at Fairchild Semiconductor in Mountain View in 1958, and the first microprocessor named 4004-chip at Intel in 1971, the Computer Revolution broke out and went on. By then, several big companies such as General Electric, Ford Philco and IBM established their facilities in Palo Alto and other neighboring cities such as Mountain View and San Jose. The phrase Silicon Valley was coined by journalist Don C. Hoefler in 1971 in a series of articles for ELECTRONIC NEWS, a weekly industry tabloid." Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!
Btw; Unless a person cites the sources of their information that they claim as fact, no serious minded person will ever believe them. It's easy to do, and really required as SOP, if you are a serious person.
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sorry, nothing in your post made that argument. You are preaching to the choir, I've been an advocate of scraping all income and corporate taxes and replacing them with a national sales tax since Dick Lugar ran for president on the national sales tax in 1988.
just as an FYI: The discussion was NOT about how Silicon Valley got it's name. The discussion was how Silicon Valley started. It stated and grew because of Standford University. Standford University was its center of gravity. That was the original point being made.
It's closer to $500 billion today. That's enough to run GM, Ford, and several other companies combined. It's money that it completely wasted. It's a big reason (along with mindless regulations) that companies are moving jobs offshore.
That's exactly my point. There was NO SUCH THING AS "SILICON VALLEY" until after 1956. Hell, the name "SILICON VALLEY" wasn't even used until 1971. If you want to talk about the Sunnyvale/Mountain View/Palo Alto /San Jose' geographical area before solid state electronics, say THAT. Get a grip. Different WORDS mean different things. You are obviously NOT a hard science person.
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You got that wrong too, so I wouldn't press the point if I were you. WTF do you do for a living? NOT "electronics" I'd wager.
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I wouldn't doubt it. I noticed a lot of replies after my last post... I presume go56 is trying to do his schtick, "war is peace, ignorance is knowledge, stupidity is (liberal) intelligence," yeah? Feh.
Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
I'm in the computer industry in Seattle. I fly to the valley all of the time.
I lived in Moses Lake, Washington for about a year, 68/69, then moved to LA for awhile, just about the time when the Manson family went on their killing spree.
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina
Moses Lake is way on the other side of the mountains from me. I've driven past it a couple of times on the way to Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Microsoft and Google both have huge data centers close to Moses Lake in Quincy because they get really cheap electricity off of the Columbia River.
Moses lake was like being on another planet, lots of flat prarie land, and those spooky tumble weeds that piled up against our doors...
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina
Did you ever see a concert at the Gorge at George?
I've never heard of, or don't remember 'Gorge at George, I'm sorry. I never got to know too much about the area, but we attended a BJ Thomas concert in Walla Walla. I remember Crystal Lake (teen hangout), and the feeling I was in Mexico, not very many white, or black folk, mostly Mexicans. I looked up a couple of fella's I met there all those years ago and found them, but I decided not to contact them because they may be married and the wives woudn't like that...lol
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina
Yeah, it's a big agricultural area. Gorge at George (about a 30 minute drive from Moses Lake): Oh yes, there is one other thing I do remember that would be part of history from that area, you could probably find it online. I was one of the first to climb aboard, and tour the 1969 Boeing 747, right off the assembly line...lol This area is well known for it's Hangers, tho I don't think the Air Force uses the place much anymore.
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina
I'm in the computer industry in Seattle. I fly to the valley all of the time. LOL! So WHAT? LOL! Dude I'm not some bimbo you met in an airport bar. WHAT do you DO for a living? Let me guess, software geek eh? Because IF you had any background in HARDWARE, you'd know that wishing does NOT make it go.
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Your tag line, ""It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange" Is a REAL hoot! It is EXACTLY BASS ACKWARDS WRONG! Because without the rule of LAW, the rule that your hero the messiah "king" obammy has been busy DESTROYING for the last two years, means that the "law" then means exactly what your little rapist hero says that it does not. That "law" is exactly what the "big men" in the culture say it means, when there is no rule of LAW. Only a FOOL would not understand that simple FACT, (I'm talking about Assange here, but you do yourself no good when you quote such DRIVEL).
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Lowering taxes adds to the deficit. This stupid shilling obamunist ballsack is STILL here?? I sure don't miss the insipid "posts" like the above from the bozoed assclown.....but I have to wonder why anyone with half a brain still engages this laughable tool.....
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)
LOL! The goat told me that I was honored to be the only person that she had ever put on ignore! She might not have put it quite that way. ;^)
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It's closer to $500 billion today. That's enough to run GM, Ford, and several other companies combined. It's money that it completely wasted. It's a big reason (along with mindless regulations) that companies are moving jobs offshore. That is a goofy argument. This past year I've spent more time waiting for Sears contractors to show up and repair my water heater then I have in the past 10 years preparing income taxes (don't buy a Sears waterheater!). I spend far more time navigating automated phone systems and on hold annually than preparing income taxes (I would love it if some one did a study on how much time and money was wasted on that for business and individuals). I pray daily to be spared the necessity of contacting my internet provider! I gave Comcast three shots at hooking up my cable, more time wasted waiting than I spent on taxes last year. (Astound got it done the first time) Come to think of it, the private sector ain't all that efficient.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
I was born in San Francisco and lived and worked in Silicon Valley most of my life.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
You are two of the dumbest and more stubborn people I have ever met. I need to stop wasting my time talking to you. Silicon Valley Historical Society The phenomenon known since the 1970s as Silicon Valley can be traced to origins in the 1890s when Leland Stanford established a university at Palo Alto... Pioneer professors, especially in the sciences and engineering, took Senator Stanford’s cue and collaborated with nearby industries from the outset... Palo Alto became an early test bed for radio experiment. Later it became the locale for development of continuous-wave transmission powered by arc generators... At Standford university, Fred Terman was firmly entrenched as the leading U.S. academic man in radio engineering. Even before becoming Electrical Engineering department head in 1937, Terman encouraged his students to start businesses... The Hewlett Packard Story (From the film "Silicon Valley: 110 year Renaissance"): In 1935, two Standford Graduates... Silicon Valley is there because of Standford University. It's first big growth company was Hewlett Packard, which was formed by two Standard Graduates in 1935. Without Standford University, there would be no Silicon Valley. This is common knowledge, yet you two deny it. It's madding. I am going to stop talking to both of you because you are idiots.
Because you don't have job.
If you look at my earlier past, I mentioned Fred Terman, who is, BTW, known as the father of Silicon Valley. It's first big growth company was Hewlett Packard, which was formed by two Standard Graduates in 1935. Without Standford University, there would be no Silicon Valley. Without Fred Terman there would be no HP. Without Fred Terman Stanford would not have played the role it did in the development of Silicon Valley - in fact Stanford itself might not be the world class University it is today. This is common knowledge, yet you two deny it. It's madding. I am going to stop talking to both of you because you are idiots. It must be really tough to be the keeper of all knowledge common and not be recognized for the central role you play.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Sears doesn't care how much money I loose waiting for their repairmen.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Here is what you said: it was Frederick Terman, the Cold War, the creation of Stanford Industrial Park, research grants from the DoD and the CIA that made Stanford and Silicon Valley. Untrue. Standford University seeded Silicon Valley staring in the 1890s. Hewlett Packard was Standford's first major success story in the 1930s. Yes, Terman (a Standford Professor) was an early part of this. This all started a long time before there was a Cold War, DOD, or CIA. Standford University was the center of gravity that created Silicon Valley. If you are going to "google" your answers, you should probably make some attempt to put what you find in context before you respond.
i've gotten to a point where thanks to sites like applianceguru.com and http://forum.appliancepartspros.com/ i can find the answer to just about any appliance related problem and fix it myself. I've now repaired my dishwasher once (before replacing it), and my refrigerator 3 times in 8 years.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Thank you. If I ever have another problem, I'll give that site a look.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
LOL! Boy, you are fence post stupid. The FACT is that solid state electronics did not even exist until the late 1950's. THAT is when the history of the SILICON VALLEY began. Which begs another unanswered question, how is that ball less try at an insult and stupid repetition of your stupidity supposed to be an answer to my question of what you specifically do for a living? Or address the STUPIDITY and INACCURACY of the absolutely BASS ACKWARDS DRIVEL that you use as your tag line? Focus, focus, FOCUS ...
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Watch it. Our host is the only balless one around here. Your begging to get banned. If you want to be balless start your own website. I could have. But I started my own Hummer instead!
Piss OFF, you insipid vile retread creep.
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Such language!!! Polite society insists on the same civility that the Founding Fathers invented. My, my but you are a vicious brute of a man. I'll bet that you have bulges all over you. BIG bulges. The kind of bulges that makes naughty girls do naughty things. PS: Boofie goes to bed at 9. At 9:01 I can be a naughty girl too!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI already gave you one reason -- a skilled work force. Nevada's workforce is largely unskilled.
#46. To: jwpegler (#44)
Specifically, Silicon Valley was seeded by Standford graduates who created Hewlett Packard -- an evil corporation. LOL.
#47. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#46)
#48. To: Mad Dog (#47)
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"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#49. To: go65 (#38)
At some points on the curve lower taxes increases revenue, at some points it decreases revenue. If you are on the left side of the cuve, lowering taxes adds to the deficit.
Let's clear up a couple misconceptions on tax cuts BY TERRY SAVAGE SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Nov 16, 2010 05:26PM
#50. To: jwpegler (#48)
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#51. To: jwpegler (#48)
#52. To: Capitalist Eric (#49)
We're on the RIGHT side of the curve.
In 2002, taxpayers spent an estimated 5.8 billion hours complying with the federal income tax code, according to the Tax Foundation. The total estimated cost of compliance was over $194 billion. That's equivalent to a 20.4-cent surcharge for every $1 in taxes collected!
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#53. To: Capitalist Eric (#49)
"[F]ederal taxes are very considerably lower by every measure since Obama became president." Bruce Bartlett, former adviser to President Reagan and Treasury Department economist under George H.W. Bush
http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/18/tea-party-ignorant-taxes-opinions-columnists-bruce- bartlett_2.html
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#54. To: Mad Dog (#50)
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BUT it was NOT the "SILICON VALLEY", how could it be? Because there was no such thing as a silicon based circuit until 1956.
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#55. To: Capitalist Eric (#49)
In 2002, taxpayers spent an estimated 5.8 billion hours complying with the federal income tax code, according to the Tax Foundation. The total estimated cost of compliance was over $194 billion. That's equivalent to a 20.4-cent surcharge for every $1 in taxes collected!
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#56. To: jwpegler (#54)
#57. To: jwpegler (#54)
The discussion was NOT about how Silicon Valley got it's name. The discussion was how Silicon Valley started. It stated and grew because of Standford University. Standford University was its center of gravity. That was the original point being made.
#58. To: jwpegler (#55)
#59. To: Mad Dog (#57)
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WTF do you do for a living?
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#60. To: jwpegler (#59)
I'm in the computer industry in Seattle.
#61. To: Murron (#60)
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#62. To: jwpegler (#61)
#63. To: Murron (#62)
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#64. To: jwpegler (#63)
Did you ever see a concert at the Gorge at George?
#65. To: Murron (#64)
I remember Crystal Lake (teen hangout), and the feeling I was in Mexico, not very many white, or black folk, mostly Mexicans.
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#66. To: jwpegler (#65)
#67. To: jwpegler (#59)
WTF do you do for a living?
#68. To: jwpegler (#59)
#69. To: All (#37)
To: go65
#70. To: e_type_jag (#69)
#71. To: jwpegler, Capitalist Eric (#55)
In 2002, taxpayers spent an estimated 5.8 billion hours complying with the federal income tax code, according to the Tax Foundation. The total estimated cost of compliance was over $194 billion. That's equivalent to a 20.4-cent surcharge for every $1 in taxes collected!
#72. To: jwpegler (#59)
I'm in the computer industry in Seattle. I fly to the valley all of the time.
#73. To: Mad Dog, lucysmom (#67)
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"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#74. To: lucysmom (#71)
This past year I've spent more time waiting for Sears contractors to show up and repair my water heater then I have in the past 10 years preparing income taxes
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#75. To: jwpegler (#73)
At Standford university, Fred Terman was firmly entrenched as the leading U.S. academic man in radio engineering. Even before becoming Electrical Engineering department head in 1937, Terman encouraged his students to start businesses...
#76. To: jwpegler (#74)
Because you don't have job.
#77. To: lucysmom (#75)
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If you look at my earlier past, I mentioned Fred Terman, who is, BTW, known as the father of Silicon Valley.
"It's very important to remember the law is not simply what powerful people would want others to believe it is." -- Julian Assange
#78. To: lucysmom (#71)
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This past year I've spent more time waiting for Sears contractors to show up and repair my water heater then I have in the past 10 years preparing income taxes (don't buy a Sears waterheater!).
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#79. To: jwpegler (#77)
If you are going to "google" your answers, you should probably make some attempt to put what you find in context before you respond.
#80. To: go65 (#78)
i've gotten to a point where thanks to sites like applianceguru.com and http://forum.appliancepartspros.com/ i can find the answer to just about any appliance related problem and fix it myself. I've now repaired my dishwasher once (before replacing it), and my refrigerator 3 times in 8 years.
#81. To: jwpegler (#73)
#82. To: Mad Dog (#81)
how is that ball less try at an insult
#83. To: Boofer After 5 (#82)
#84. To: Mad Dog (#83)
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