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Title: LTC Lakin’s Court-Martial Nears
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URL Source: http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/
Published: Dec 6, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-12-06 13:45:24 by Skip Intro
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Views: 97314
Comments: 116

LTC Terrence Lakin’s court-martial opens next week on December 14 at Fort Meade, Maryland.

I saw a photo online recently of Lakin with his beautiful family, which I won’t post here for the sake of their privacy. But I felt very sad looking at it. Lakin’s irresponsible actions gambled with their future security and family reputation. I wonder if the GOP ops behind this miserable fiasco, like Margaret Hemenway and Paul Rolf Jensen, or World Net Daily, for that matter, ever give a thought to what they have done to these kids. All the Birthers out there, every single one, who pushed this man farther and farther to self-immolation should be ashamed, including, more recently, his own brother.

It would be one thing if LTC Lakin had continued with the Birther defense. Lakin must have realized the damage he was doing to his family and to the service and himself, or he wouldn’t have fired the American Patriot Foundation and hired a non-Birther lawyer, one of the best in the military law business, to represent his interests over the Birther movement’s interests. It’s a shame the Birther movement continues to exploit Lakin in defiance of his legal strategy.

No sympathy here for LTC Lakin–he deserves what he gets–but for his children. And for the armed forces, who have better things to worry about than half-assed, unpatriotic conspiracy movements.

Col. Dwight Sullivan of CAAFlog described on The Fogbow how the military sentencing process works in a plea bargain:

In the military, the convening authority (the commanding general or other high ranking official who decided to prosecute the case) actually enters into a contract with the defendant (called an accused in military justice parlance). The convening authority agrees that if the accused pleads guilty and does whatever else he or she agrees to do, then the convening authority will reduce the accused’s sentence to an agree-upon limit. The case then goes to court-martial, where the accused pleads guilty and goes through a “Care inquiry,” during which the accused is required to convince the military judge that he or she is actually guilty. This is a lengthy process during which the accused basically has to explain in his or her own words why his or her conduct satisfied every element of the offenses to which he or she has pled guilty. Once the military judge finds the accused guilty in accordance with the pleas, the case then moves immediately into a sentencing hearing. There are no presentence reports — sentencing is an adversarial evidentiary process, much like a contested trial. At the end of the sentencing case, the sentencer (it could be the military judge alone or a panel of service members) deliberates and then announces a sentence. (For members, it generally takes a 2/3 vote for the sentence, though there are some exceptions to that rule.) Then the accused gets the lighter of the sentence adjudged or the sentence as agreed to with the convening authority. So the defense can, as we say, “beat the deal” by getting the sentencer to adjudge a more lenient sentence than that in the contract (called a PTA for pre-trial agreement) between the convening authority and the accused.

During the defense’s sentencing case, the accused can elect to either testify under oath or make an unsworn statement to the court-martial. If the accused testifies under oath, he can be (and almost invariably will be) cross-examined by the prosecutor. If the accused makes an unsworn statement, he isn’t subject to cross-examination, though the prosecution in its rebuttal case is allowed to rebut any statements of fact made during the unsworn statement, but not opinions. Military case law construing the right to make an unsworn statement holds that the accused can say just about anything he wants. In practice, because the case law is so expansive, a military judge almost never precludes the accused from saying something because she knows that if she does, there’s a pretty good chance she’ll get reversed on appeal. So, if LTC Lakin so chooses, there could indeed be an “open mike afternoon” at his court-martial during which he would have the option of delivering a birther manifesto. He would almost certainly be allowed to do so if he wants. (Of course, the sentencing authority — be it Judge Lind or a panel of Army colonels — will then be free to consider that as a matter in aggravation when determining the appropriate sentence.)

Col. Sullivan intends to attend the trial, so we can look forward to his reports on CAAFlog. A very interesting interview he had recently on Reality Check is well worth listening to. If he does attend the court-martial, Reality Check will be lucky again to have him as a guest to discuss it. Don’t miss the show next week.

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#76. To: sneakypete (#72)

This has never came up before because no other president has ever refused to show their birth certificate. I doubt it would have even occurred to any previous president to refuse to prove he were legally qualified to hold that office.

It is more than likely many of our presidents didn't have birth certificates.

...it wasn’t until 1853 that the United Kingdom made it mandatory to register certified birth records for each citizen. In the 1900s, the United States followed suit.

Prior to that time, birth records were generally written down by doctors, midwives, or priests. Documents were not certified or recorded by the government, and it was very common for documents to be lost or destroyed. Therefore, there was no “official record” of any citizens until they reached adulthood and started paying taxes or joined the military.

birthdetails.com/blog/his...rth-records-certificates/

Obama published his Certificate of Live Birth on the internet, I can't recall any other president ever publishing the same, anywhere, ever.

No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court.

Man, I bet guys drafted and sent off to Vietnam wish they'd thought of that.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-08   20:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: sneakypete (#73)

If Barry Soetoro was not legally elected,he can't legally order Larkin to do a damn thing.

Obama was legally elected by popular vote, again by the electoral college, and accepted without challenge by Congress.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-08   21:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: lucysmom (#76)

No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court.

Man, I bet guys drafted and sent off to Vietnam wish they'd thought of that.

Are you saying Kennedy and Johnson were frauds?

Who knew, coming from a leftard.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-12-08   21:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: no gnu taxes (#78)

No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court.

Man, I bet guys drafted and sent off to Vietnam wish they'd thought of that.

Are you saying Kennedy and Johnson were frauds?

Would you have denied those draftees a court order legitimizing their orders? Remember, Sneaky sez ain't no one got to obey an order lessin the court sez so.

(psst - the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States presided over Obama's oath taking.>

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-08   21:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: no gnu taxes (#78)

Are you saying Kennedy and Johnson were frauds?

What? Are you saying Kennedy beat Nixon legitimately? Hell, everybody knows old Joe Kennedy stole that election for John. Of course that means LBJ was illegitimate too. And that means that Viet Nam was an illegitimate war.

Better watch out Eric or the John Birch Society will revoke your lifetime membership, you lefty bastard.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-12-08   21:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: lucysmom (#79)

It was obvious without question that Johnson and Kennedy were US born. Not so with the Kenyan.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-12-08   21:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: no gnu taxes (#81)

It was obvious without question that Johnson and Kennedy were US born. Not so with the Kenyan.

It's obvious without question that JFK stole the election in 1960. Therefore, using Birther Logic, every single thing he did as president was illegal, as was that of his VP and successor.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-12-08   21:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: lucysmom, no gnu taxes, sneaky pete, all (#79)

("psst - the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States presided over Obama's oath taking".>

Do you think this judge who swore him in witnessed some sort of proof that Obama was who he said he was, and Obaman was born where he said he was born?

Or maybe he spoke to those responsable for vetting him, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Alice Travis Germond, the secretary of the Democratic National Convention, two people who could put all of this bull shit to rest, and the minds of our soldiers at peace that they are serving a constitutionally elligible president, if Pelosi and Germond would come forward and confirm what they put their names to on these two documents (below).

It means, these women could swear under oath, at the risk of 'perjury' if lying, that Obama is a natural born citizen, that he has been properly vetted by them.

This first image (TOP) of the certification for Barack Obama's nomination, including the affirmation Obama and Joe Biden "are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution"

The second form (BOTTOM) appears identical, down to a typographical error in "through." But in this one, the verification of eligibility under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution is gone.

The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one," he wrote. "One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

"The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of president is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama president," he wrote.

The Democratic National Committee were contacted multiple times over three days to request an explanation of the two images, including whether one might be a forgery. A spokeswoman in the press office confirmed, "We are aware of it," but declined to elaborate.

Pelosi's office was contacted, but got no response over. And the White House declined to respond to multiple e-mails asking for a comment.

BOTTOM LINE!! There is no way in HELL Pelosi, Germond, or anyone on his team is going to step forward and SWEAR this man is a legal citizen of this nation, because they all know the truth....he is NOT! They will only go so far for this man, but they most certainly will not take the fall for this one at the risk of being found guilty on perjury, and maybe even treason charges! jmho! ~ Murron

Source for information and images above

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina

Murron  posted on  2010-12-08   22:19:01 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Murron (#83)

Mammy, say it ain't so...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-08   22:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Fred Mertz (#84)

Mammy, say it ain't so...

LOL...you made me laugh out loud...

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina

Murron  posted on  2010-12-08   22:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#79)

Remember, Sneaky sez ain't no one got to obey an order lessin the court sez so.

lucysmomn, are you REALLY that stupid, or do you just play stupid so you can lie your ass off about pete then simply say, "oh, dumb me, I made a mistake"?????

Here's the quote you attribute to pete from his post#72:

No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court.

In post #72, pete is QUOTING Skip Intro who was actually the author of "No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court." in skip's post #67, copied below:

#67. To: sneakypete (#65)

OK Pete. Acording to THE CONSTUTION, everytime a captain orders a change in course the helmsman can refuse until he has his day in court. Same goes for a mess cook, a supply sergeant, a field commander.

No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court.

Is that the way you see it?

Again, I suggest you and Woody take the time to read the UCMJ on the subject. All I can do is try to explain it to you. Unfortunately, I can't understand it for you too.

Skip Intro posted on 2010-12-08 13:27:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

So which is it? Are you just a fucking liar, or too fucking stupid to figure out who posted what?

I hope you don't vote.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-12-08   22:37:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: no gnu taxes (#75)

Coming from Meg, that's probably an invite for some kind of bath house hangout.

Nah,I am not sure what it was,but I'm pretty sure it wasn't that.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-08   23:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: lucysmom (#76)

Obama published his Certificate of Live Birth on the internet, I can't recall any other president ever publishing the same, anywhere, ever.

That's not a birth certificate,and no other president ever had to have a privacy seal put on their birth certificate.

No one has to obey any orders at all until they are proven to be legitimate by a court.

That's nice,but I didn't say it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-08   23:09:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: lucysmom (#77)

Obama was legally elected by popular vote, again by the electoral college, and accepted without challenge by Congress.

No,he wasn't. We don't even know if his legal name is Obama. We KNOW that at one time it was Barry Soetoro,but nobody named Barry Soetoro was ever elected.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-08   23:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Skip Intro (#80)

What? Are you saying Kennedy beat Nixon legitimately? Hell, everybody knows old Joe Kennedy stole that election for John. Of course that means LBJ was illegitimate too.

That's true.

And that means that Viet Nam was an illegitimate war.

That's not.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-08   23:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: no gnu taxes (#81)

It was obvious without question that Johnson and KenneKdy were US born.

So what? Kennedy wasn't legally elected due to voter fraud. Which means that LBJ wasn't,either.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-08   23:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: sneakypete (#88)

That's not a birth certificate,and no other president ever had to have a privacy seal put on their birth certificate.

Neither did Obama.

That's nice,but I didn't say it.

Please accept my humble apologies.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   0:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: sneakypete (#89)

We KNOW that at one time it was Barry Soetoro,but nobody named Barry Soetoro was ever elected.

Do you think Scooter is Libby's legal name?

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   0:19:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: sneakypete (#88)

You've got a lot more patience than I have.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-12-09   1:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: lucysmom (#92)

That's not a birth certificate,and no other president ever had to have a privacy seal put on their birth certificate.

Neither did Obama.

Yes,he did. Or are you calling the Governor of Hawaii a liar?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-09   7:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: lucysmom (#93)

Do you think Scooter is Libby's legal name?

No.Is Scooter the name he was sworn in by? Is it the name on his pay checks,passport,and banking accounts?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-09   7:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Wood_Chopper (#94)

You've got a lot more patience than I have.

Maybe,but I just ran out of patience on this thread and won't be responding to it anymore.

This thread is proof you can lead a Dim to knowledge,but you can't make them understand it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-09   7:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: sneakypete (#91)

So what? Kennedy wasn't legally elected due to voter fraud.

Even if you could make a case that Kennedy stole Illinois and give that State to Nixon (and I am certainly not suggesting a case can't be made), Nixon would have lost anyway.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-12-09   8:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: sneakypete (#97)

This thread is proof you can lead a Dim to knowledge,but you can't make them understand it.

My turning point came when, toward the end of a lengthy thread about a guy on trial for refusing to follow orders because Obama may not be Constitutionally eligible to hold the office, lucysmom writes:

"The piece you're missing is that Obama's birth has nothing to do with Lakin's guilt or innocence anymore than my citizenship does.

Nah, not much. It's just the entire crux of the matter.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-12-09   9:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: sneakypete (#96)

No.Is Scooter the name he was sworn in by? Is it the name on his pay checks,passport,and banking accounts?

I wouldn't know, I haven't seen his passport, checks, or birth certificate (perhaps he had it sealed).

The point is that many people are known by names other than what appears on their birth certificate - we call those "nicknames", like Billy for William, Johnny for Jonathan, or even Barry for Barack. It is possible, likely even, that Barry is just Obama's childhood nickname.

As for "Soetoro", how many examples do we have of Obama using that name? Does it appear on any legal document? What proof do you have that Soetoro was ever Obama's legal name?

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: sneakypete (#95)

That's not a birth certificate,and no other president ever had to have a privacy seal put on their birth certificate.

Yes,he did. Or are you calling the Governor of Hawaii a liar?

When did the governor of Hawaii say that Obama had "a privacy seal put on their [his] birth certificate"?

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Wood_Chopper (#99)

Nah, not much. It's just the entire crux of the matter.

For you, Lakin and Orly Taitz it is the crux of the matter. In the eyes of the law, it is irrelevant. Too bad Lakin wasn't able to make that distinction.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   10:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: lucysmom (#102)

Sorry I didn't ping you to #99. My bozo count went up by one (after my #86) and I figured that was you, so I thought pinging you would be futile.

In the eyes of the law, it is irrelevant.

We'll see.

And the sheep will bleat their submission,
Seeing the others as fools,
Not knowing nor even caring,
They've become no more than tools.

Burma Shave.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-12-09   19:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Wood_Chopper (#103)

My bozo count went up by one (after my #86) and I figured that was you...

My bozo list is reserved for those who have nothing to offer beyond chronic crudeness. My standards are so high, only one poster has ever made my list. ;-)

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   19:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: lucysmom (#100)

As for "Soetoro", how many examples do we have of Obama using that name? Does it appear on any legal document? What proof do you have that Soetoro was ever Obama's legal name?

It's idiots like you that have ruined the country. Yes,there IS proof he used that name. He used it because it WAS his name after he was legally adopted by his mother's Indonesian husband,and the ONLY school record of his that has ever been released is a report card in that name from the school he went to in Indonesia.

Your daughter should slap you for not giving her away at birth. That way she may have had a chance at a semi-normal life.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-09   20:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: lucysmom (#101)

When did the governor of Hawaii say that Obama had "a privacy seal put on their [his] birth certificate"?

Are you Yukon's sister?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-09   20:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: lucysmom (#104)

My standards are so high, only one poster has ever made my list. ;-)

Admit it. There is only one poster whose insults you understood.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-09   20:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: sneakypete (#105)

"Your daughter should slap you for not giving her away at birth".

Well hell, there goes another cup of coffee....lmao...

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina

Murron  posted on  2010-12-09   20:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: lucysmom, Wood_Chopper (#104)

"My bozo list is reserved for those who have nothing to offer beyond chronic crudeness. My standards are so high, only one poster has ever made my list"

It's probably me, because of all the posters here, not one of them comes close to bringing out the 'crudeness' in me like you do.

Reading your responses here just reafirms just how terminally STUPID you are! jmho!

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Jo Dee Messina

Murron  posted on  2010-12-09   20:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: sneakypete (#105)

Yes,there IS proof he used that name. He used it because it WAS his name after he was legally adopted by his mother's Indonesian husband,and the ONLY school record of his that has ever been released is a report card in that name from the school he went to in Indonesia.

How do you know Obama was legally adopted?

Report card from a school in Indonesia - well that's conclusive - not.

Your daughter should slap you for not giving her away at birth. That way she may have had a chance at a semi-normal life.

Over all you seem like a decent guy. The above statement is beneath you.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   20:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Murron (#109)

It's probably me, because of all the posters here, not one of them comes close to bringing out the 'crudeness' in me like you do.

Nope.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   20:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: sneakypete (#107)

Admit it. There is only one poster whose insults you understood.

LOL

Could be that too.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-09   20:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: no gnu taxes, sneakypete (#75)

Coming from Meg, that's probably an invite for some kind of bath house hangout.

Curious comment coming from padlock, the guy who spent 8 years sucking Bush's cock.

meguro  posted on  2010-12-10   1:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: lucysmom (#110)

How do you know Obama was legally adopted?

Good point! The only real proof we have is his own word,and we all know what a liar he is. Do you know anything about anything?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-10   11:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: sneakypete (#114)

The only real proof we have is his own word,and we all know what a liar he is.

Bottom line, you don't know anything, its just a rumor you're particularly fond of repeating.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-12-10   14:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: lucysmom (#115)

The only real proof we have is his own word,and we all know what a liar he is.

Bottom line, you don't know anything, its just a rumor you're particularly fond of repeating

Bottom line,you are a Soetoro Suckup,and he could eat a live baby on tv and you wouldn't believe your lying eyes.

You have no honor and no honesty.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-12-10   19:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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