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Title: Leaked Documents Show Middle East Consensus on Threat Posed by Iran
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... t-consensus-threat-posed-iran/
Published: Nov 29, 2010
Author: foxnews
Post Date: 2010-11-29 21:08:01 by WhiteSands
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The thousands of pages of newly leaked State Department documents are sprinkled with examples of name-calling and diplomatic horse-trading, causing consternation for Obama administration officials as they try to sustain vital alliances around the world.

But the seismic document spill by WikiLeaks showed one area of profound agreement -- that Iran is viewed in the Middle East as the region's No. 1 troublemaker.

Gulf nation leaders were known to dislike the Iranian regime and its nuclear program but rarely made those sentiments known publicly. The leaked cables and communications, though, show those officials talking about Iran with a degree of disdain and worry more commonly found among the Israelis.

According to the documents, Saudi King Abdullah frequently urged the United States to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities, to "cut off the head of the snake." According to the Guardian, he warned that Iran's program could trigger a nuclear arms race in the region.

King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa of Bahrain and Jordanian lawmaker Zeid Rifai separately expressed similar concerns. Rifai told a U.S. official to "bomb Iran, or live with an Iranian bomb," warning that sanctions would not matter, according to the Guardian. Abu Dhabi crown prince Sheikh Mohammad bin Zayed fretted that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "is going to take us to war." Given the contents of these documents, Ahmadinejad on Monday accused the United States government of being behind the leak. Ahmadinejad also accused Israel and other Western government of being behind the killing of a prominent Iranian nuclear scientist. White House spokesman Tommy Vietor called that charge "absurd."

"We have pursued peaceful and diplomatic means to deal with Iran's nuclear program," Vietor said.

Despite the apparent consensus aired on Iran, though, the State Department documents covered a range of foreign policy topics that the Obama administration no doubt wishes was kept secret. The administration, in damage control mode Monday, moved to soothe ruffled feathers abroad while ordering a top-down review on safeguarding classified data and announcing a criminal investigation into the website.

Describing it as no laughing matter, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested any hurt feelings or embarrassment from the release may blow over. Saying "nothing laudable" came from WikiLeaks' action, she recalled that one counterpart told her, "Well don't worry about it. You should see what we say about you."

Still, administration officials condemned WikiLeaks for the release of more than 250,000 State Department documents that they claim jeopardize national security and put American lives at risk.

While previous releases by WikiLeaks of classified documents on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars forced the Pentagon to scramble to alert informants in the battlefields, the newly released documents aired in uncomfortable detail revealing conversations and dispatches among U.S. diplomats.

"This disclosure is not just an attack on America's foreign policy interests. It is an attack on the international community -- the alliances and partnerships, the conversations and negotiations that safeguard global security and advance economic prosperity," Clinton said.

She said the administration is "taking aggressive steps" against those who "stole" the data, while implementing safeguards at the Pentagon and State Department to make sure a breach of this magnitude "does not ever happen again."

As many as 3 million U.S. government workers and soldiers may have had access to such classified material. Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said Monday that the ongoing criminal investigation into stolen government documents could hold accountable Defense Department officials who failed to set up the proper firewalls or who did not do enough to protect the documents.

Clinton expressed hope that the release would not damage U.S. diplomacy.

"I am confident that the partnerships that the Obama administration has worked so hard to build will withstand this challenge," Clinton said. "The United States deeply regrets the disclosure of any information that was intended to be confidential."

Saying the president is "not pleased" by the release, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs labeled the theft of classified information a "crime." That was after Attorney General Eric Holder said the Justice Department is conducting an "active, ongoing, criminal investigation" into the situation.

"To the extent that we can find anybody who was involved in the breaking of American law and who has put at risk the assets and the people that I have described they will be held responsible, they will be held accountable," Holder said.

Responding to concerns that the massive leak of thousands of documents constitutes a government failure to contain its own secret files, Office of Management and Budget Director Jacob Lew issued a memo to department and agency heads saying such a failure is "unacceptable and will not be tolerated." Lew ordered all agencies dealing with classified information to put together a "security assessment team" to review how they protect it.

"Such review should include (without limitation) evaluation of the agency's configuration of classified government systems to ensure that users do not have broader access than is necessary to do their jobs effectively, as well as implementation of restrictions on usage of, and removable media capabilities from, classified government computer networks," he wrote.

The documents spanned a litany of foreign policy topics and figures. Publication of the secret memos and documents Sunday amplified widespread global alarm about Iran's nuclear ambitions.

It also unveiled occasional U.S. pressure tactics aimed at hot spots in Afghanistan, Pakistan and North Korea. The leaks disclosed bluntly candid impressions from both diplomats and other world leaders about America's allies and foes.

It was, said Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini, the "Sept. 11 of world diplomacy."

Clinton may have to confront the fallout firsthand after she leaves Washington on a four-nation tour of Central Asia and the Middle East -- a region that figures prominently in the leaked documents.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., ranking Republican on the House intelligence committee, called the leak a "colossal failure" with respect to the intelligence community.

"This database should never have been created. Hundreds of thousands of people should not have been provided access to it. This is a colossal failure by our intel community, by our Department of Defense to keep classified information secret," he said on ABC.

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#32. To: jwpegler (#30)

IT's called fungibility.

Which only lasts until one of the Export nations stops exporting.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-30   11:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#31)

Got a link to the FBI stating THAT? What part of 'to the FBI' in the above confuses you?

You made the claim the 'FBI says the phone call never happened'. You claim Ted Olsen was lying.

Back it up with the link to the FBI STATING THIS.

You have my interest. Give the forum the link.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   11:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: continental op (#9)

the whole leak issue is boring and unimportant.

I want to destroy D.C. as much as anyone but, these leaks are inconsequential.

Long time no see. Nice to see you around again. Hope to see more of you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-30   17:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

hiya Stone, how the hell are you?

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-11-30   18:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#33) (Edited)

FBI says the phone call never happened'. You claim Ted Olsen was lying

# David Ray Griffin on the 9/11 Cell Phone Calls: Exclusive CBC ... Anyway, the FBI says there was just one Olson cell attempt, not connected. ... And as you say, there are other witnesses who affirm Ted got a call from Barbara. ..... rather than as a final proof that Ted Olsen was lying or deceived. ... cell phone ID) that, according to the FBI's latest position, never happened, ... 911blogger.com/node/22192 - Cached

# Ted Olson's Report of Phone Calls from Barbara Olson on 9/11 ... Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ... According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a ... who said: “I don't know what happened in that cockpit, ... Also, if Ted Olson's claim was false, then there are only two ... www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8514 - Cached - Similar

All Day Long. Paid not to understand, they won't be ringing the bell when it's time to get the hell out of dodge. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:08:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: All (#36)

AGAIN:

You're informed your wife just died( and how Olsen new that is a news article in and of itself-because there is no evidence that Flt 77 existed ;}

And the first thing you do is call CNN and lie. And you can source me Olsen's OFFICIAL version of his story.

Yeah, that works for me. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:11:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mcgowanjm (#36)

Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ...

Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   10:20:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Badeye (#38)

ROTFLMAO even more.

You have zero ability to comprehend facts because they are irrelevant to you and history was yesterday.

Now you want to play gotcha, change the subject, squirm.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mcgowanjm (#39)

Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ... Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   10:25:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Badeye (#38)

Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

ZERO sense made in the above.

You made ZERO effort to look at the links provided.

Typical: I search. Spend my time. You instantly refute.

Good Luck on that one. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

FBI: Olsen received ZERO Phone Calls from Wife on 9/11.

LMFAO

And which phone did 'wife' use? Where are those charges?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#41)

Ted Olson’s report was very important. It provided the only evidence that American 77, which was said to have struck the Pentagon, had still been aloft after it had disappeared from FAA radar around 9:00 AM (there had been reports, after this disappearance, that an airliner had crashed on the Ohio-Kentucky border). Also, Barbara Olson had been a very well-known commentator on CNN. The report that she died in a plane that had been hijacked by Arab Muslims was an important factor in getting the nation’s support for the Bush administration’s “war on terror.” Ted Olson’s report was important in still another way, being the sole source of the widely accepted idea that the hijackers had box cutters.3

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: badeye, All (#42)

And Thanks, be. Always looking to read History;} :

"Olson’s Self-Contradictions

Olson began this process of undermining by means of self-contradictions. He first told CNN, as we have seen, that his wife had “called him twice on a cell phone.” But he contradicted this claim on September 14, telling Hannity and Colmes that she had reached him by calling the Department of Justice collect. Therefore, she must have been using the “airplane phone,” he surmised, because “she somehow didn’t have access to her credit cards.”4 However, this version of Olson’s story, besides contradicting his first version, was even self-contradictory, because a credit card is needed to activate a passenger-seat phone. "

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Badeye, All (#40)

Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ... Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

Later that same day, moreover, Olson told Larry King Live that the second call from his wife suddenly went dead because “the signals from cell phones coming from airplanes don’t work that well.”5 After that return to his first version, he finally settled on the second version, saying that his wife had called collect and hence must have used “the phone in the passengers’ seats” because she did not have her purse.6

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Badeye (#40)

Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ... Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

By finally settling on this story, Olson avoided a technological pitfall. Given the cell phone system employed in 2001, high-altitude cell phone calls from airliners were impossible, or at least virtually so (Olson’s statement that “the signals from cell phones coming from airplanes don’t work that well” was a considerable understatement). The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004.7

However, Olson’s second story, besides being self-contradictory, was contradicted by American Airlines.

American Airlines Contradicts Olson’s Second Version

A 9/11 researcher, knowing that AA Flight 77 was a Boeing 757, noticed that AA’s website indicated that its 757s do not have passenger-seat phones. After he wrote to ask if that had been the case on September 11, 2001, an AA customer service representative replied: “That is correct; we do not have phones on our Boeing 757. The passengers on flight 77 used their own personal cellular phones to make out calls during the terrorist attack.”8

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#45)

In response to this revelation, defenders of the official story might reply that Ted Olson was evidently right the first time: she had used her cell phone. However, besides the fact that this scenario is rendered unlikely by the cell phone technology employed in 2001, it has also been contradicted by the FBI.

Olson’s Story Contradicted by the FBI

The most serious official contradiction of Ted Olson’s story came in 2006 at the trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker. The evidence presented to this trial by the FBI included a report on phone calls from all four 9/11 flights. In its report on American Flight 77, the FBI report attributed only one call to Barbara Olson and it was an “unconnected call,” which (of course) lasted “0 seconds.”9 According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call from his wife using either a cell phone or an onboard phone.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:32:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Badeye (#40)

Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ... Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

Google FBI Olsen wife

You'd think that with ALL of the US STATE AgitProp directed at this VITAL NEWS, there would be ONE link to the FBI confirming OLSEN's view.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Back on 9/11, the FBI itself had interviewed Olson. A report of that interview indicates that Olson told the FBI agents that his wife had called him twice from Flight 77.10 And yet the FBI’s report on calls from Flight 77, presented in 2006, indicated that no such calls occurred.

This was an amazing development: The FBI is part of the Department of Justice, and yet its report undermined the well-publicized claim of the DOJ’s former solicitor general that he had received two calls from his wife on 9/11.

Olson’s Story Also Rejected by Pentagon Historians

Ted Olson’s story has also been quietly rejected by the historians who wrote Pentagon 9/11, a treatment of the Pentagon attack put out by the Department of Defense.11

TICK TOCK> Crickets evolving. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mcgowanjm (#46)

According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call from his wife using either a cell phone or an onboard phone.

How will BE handle this one?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-01   10:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Fred Mertz (#48)

According to the FBI, therefore, Ted Olson did not receive a single call from his wife using either a cell phone or an onboard phone.

How will BE handle this one?

mcgowanjm (#39)

Apr 1, 2008 ... The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude airline flights was not created until 2004. ... Rotflmao. You don't even comprehend what you did by cutting and pasting the above, do you?

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

And so it goes with another 9/11 truther.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

Conclusion

This rejection of Ted Olson’s story by American Airlines, the Pentagon, and especially the FBI is a development of utmost importance. Without the alleged calls from Barbara Olson, there is no evidence that Flight 77 returned to Washington. Also, if Ted Olson’s claim was false, then there are only two possibilities: Either he lied or he was duped by someone using voice-morphing technology to pretend to be his wife.17 In either case, the official story about the calls from Barbara Olson was based on deception. And if that part of the official account of 9/11 was based on deception, should we not suspect that other parts were as well?

The fact that Ted Olson’s report has been contradicted by other defenders of the official story about 9/11 provides grounds for demanding a new investigation of 9/11. This internal contradiction is, moreover, only one of 25 such contradictions discussed in my most recent book, 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press.

www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8514

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   10:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mcgowanjm (#50)

lol owned.

Long live the Taliban Freedom Fighters!

continental op  posted on  2010-12-01   10:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: continental op (#51)

lol owned.

Hello COp. ;}

The reason for 9/11. Known and included I'm sure, in Cheney's Energy Task Force Plan. Still not released for some strange reason. LMFAO 8D:

“Altogether the citizens of the U.S. consume the same amount of oil as 4.8 billion people elsewhere.” [1]

We borrow 75% of that cost.

Okay, let's head deeper into the World Energy Outlook (WEO) 2010 report. Here's my quick summary of the report.

By 2035:

* Between 2008 and 2035, total energy demand grows by 36%, or 1.2% per year; far less than the 2% rate of growth seen over the prior 27 years. (Note: This comes from the "New Policies Scenario," which is the middle scenario of three in the report. We'll discuss this one throughout.)

* Renewables will be contributing very little to the overall energy landscape, just 14% of the total, and this includes hydro.

* 93% of all the demand increase comes from non OECD countries (mainly China and India).

* Oil remains the dominant fuel (although diminishing in total percentage).

* The global economy will grow by an average of 3.2% per annum.

* It's time to cut demand for oil by raising prices (they recommend ending energy subsidies for fossil fuels as the mechanism).

* Conventional oil has peaked, and this is a permanent condition. All oil gains from here forwards will come from non-conventional sources and gas and coal-to-liquids programs.

Name the TWO nations not experiencing PO yet.

Iraq. Iran.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   11:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: continental op, Fred Mertz, All (#52)

BTW, that 2035 number is a pipe (line;} dream.

We won't make it to 2015.

I want to draw your attention to the green circles that I placed on there. Yes, you are reading that right. To balance everything out, the IEA has modeled the OECD as actually decreasing its consumption of coal and oil by significant amounts (that's what a negative 'incremental demand' requires: a decrease in current consumption). The difference is made up from a mix of renewables, biomass, nuclear, and natural gas.

Never has such a thing happened in the entire industrial history of the OECD. Never. There are no models or examples to follow here. No guidance is offered to suggest how such a monumental feat will be accomplished, beyond tossing a few more bucks at renewables, as if money alone could correct for vast differences in energy quantity and quality.

To suggest that the next 25 years for the OECD will be characterized by a significant reduction in the use of the two primary industrial fuels is an astonishing claim, and so it deserves to be carefully examined. But, speaking bluntly, this is not going to happen."

www.chrismartenson.com/bl...-set-starve/48474#part-ii

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   11:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#53) (Edited)

I don’t like it; I assume readers here do not like it; and I’m fairly certain that few individual or business consumers will appreciate or enjoy learning this. There’s no place to look around for any immediate solutions because there aren’t any! Changes won’t necessarily occur tomorrow or next week or next month, but the painful and unpleasant truth is that we’re not going to have available to us the same amounts of readily-available oil supplies at the same relatively low prices we’ve enjoyed for decades. Not gonna happen. That means adaptations, adjustments, and yes, even sacrifices beginning soon enough, with no end in sight. That’s a problem we’re almost completely unprepared to deal with or correct.

And thank you. It's really hard to find this article:

Yes, I believe that is possible. Peak Oil is certainly real, oil is limited, at least for the time-frames we can think in. If we had time for millions of years oil would be renewable. But that is not the case. Now, it is all a matter of timing how to deal with the change. At the moment it seems that renewable energies cannot adequately fill the gap that peak oil will create. Of course, I have read about the abiotic theory, which, however, does not convince me.

But if we take it seriously now...

... then the main point is: If oil cannot flow into the old fields quickly enough the production in the fields collapses. That is observable.

In Spring of 2001 the US military made the plan to conduct the invasion of Afghanistan – that means first of all: during the time the so called Energy Task Force met, and second: many months before the attacks of 9/11. What kind of role did the double pipeline project play that was planned from the Caspian Sea to the Pakistani coast?

The plans for the construction of the pipeline from Turkmenistan over Afghanistan and Pakistan to the Indian Ocean (TAPI) were signed by the Karzai government in 2002. One does want to build that pipeline, however, because the war is still destabilizing the country, this is not possible at the moment.

From the viewpoint of the USA and the EU the pipeline is important as it allows the transfer of oil and gas from the Caspian Sea without crossing Russia in the North or Iran in the South. By the way, that was also the reason for building the Baku-Tiblisi-Cheyhan-Pipeline (BTC), which was opened 2006 and which leads from Azerbaidzhan westwards up to Turkey and the Mediterranean Sea. It is very important to observe the construction of pipelines from a global perspective. This “pipeline-language” is a lot clearer than war propaganda that seeks to cause confusion.

www.chaostheorien.de/doss...lines?redirect=%2Fdossier

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-01   11:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mcgowanjm (#54)

This “pipeline-language” is a lot clearer than war propaganda that seeks to cause confusion.

That would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-01   11:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mcgowanjm (#41)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   11:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Badeye, All (#56)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

EVERYONE SEE THIS.

Post me if you think I haven't met the terms.

Please. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-02   11:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Fred Mertz (#55)

This “pipeline-language” is a lot clearer than war propaganda that seeks to cause confusion.

That would be funny if it weren't so sad.

It does sound like something from Monty Python, eh?

Can you imagine being in the room as Hillary signs off on stealing UN Ban's Credit Card Number? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-02   11:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: mcgowanjm (#57)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-02   11:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Badeye, All (#59)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

Keep Comin. 8D

Cheney/SS/Norad did 9/11.

Google FBI Olsen Wife. Or not. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-02   22:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: mcgowanjm (#60)

James, you nailed him and everyone sees it. He'll never admit it.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-02   22:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mcgowanjm, All (#60)

Keep Comin. 8D

You just keep hiding you liberal pussy! How's that Gulf Coast evacuation proceeding, punk?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-12-03   0:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Fred Mertz (#61) (Edited)

James, you nailed him and everyone sees it. He'll never admit it.

monty python the black knight i move for no man

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4&feature=related

What are you gonna do? Bleed on me? 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-03   8:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mcgowanjm (#60)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-03   9:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Badeye (#64)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

Think what it must feel like to be a tyrant suppressing the aspirations of your own people in order to serve the hegemony of a foreign country, while a nearby Muslim (Mexican/Canandian;} government strives to protect its people’s independence from foreign hegemony.

-Roberts

Big balls you have there Mr. Lieberman. What you gonna back it up with? A few missiles? Somehow I doubt it, considering that you’d have to start launching them into nations that aren’t exactly hostile to us – but sure do seem to be hostile toward attempts to censor these guys.

Oh wait…. you mean your bluster was all hot air?

$ dig wikileaks.org

; <<>> DiG 9.6.-ESV-R2 <<>> wikileaks.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50324 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION: ;wikileaks.org. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION: wikileaks.org. 3410 IN A 46.59.1.2 wikileaks.org. 3410 IN A 91.121.133.41

Oh look. Two foreign addresses and none on Amazon’s cloud.

Gee, that’s sad - it took what – a whole hour?

% Information related to ’46.59.0.0/17AS847382;

route: 46.59.0.0/17 descr: Bahnhof Internet, Sweden origin: AS8473 mnt-by: BAHNHOF-NCC source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to ’91.121.0.0/16AS1627682;

route: 91.121.0.0/16 descr: OVH ISP descr: Paris, France origin: AS16276 mnt-by: OVH-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered

That would be “Blow Me” as Wikileaks’ response to Senator Lieberman and DHS.

Now what winky-eye?

Further, I am compelled to again ask: Exactly why is it that you’re ****ed now when the other leaks previously published were much worse in terms of what they exposed? It isn’t that Wikileaks says they have 5gb of data from a major BANK to leak, is it?

(PS: If you think getting cute with the DNS will stop them, it won’t. I suspect you’re dumb enough to do it though, which is simply going to cause them to move things into a format you can’t trace or interdict at all, or into a TLD you can’t touch – and there are a bunch of them. If you don’t understand how and why this stuff works please call someone who does so they can explain it to you before you make further fools out of yourselves.)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-03   10:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: mcgowanjm (#65)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

You've had several days to provide a link to the FBI 'report' that supports the ridiculous assertion Ted Olsen did NOT speak to his wife in the moments before her plane hit the pentagon.

You've had multiple chances, the only conclusion I can draw is this claim of yours is unsupported by any documentation.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-03   11:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Badeye, All (#66)

You've had multiple chances

please. BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

fuck you and 'your chances'.

OOPS missed another one. Whoa that chance just whooooshed by.

Too fucking bad.

Paid not to understand. Nothing but reality will change your mind now.

As the world will make less and less sense to you until you do like this:

"The Gulf of Mexico is Dying Posted on December 1, 2010 by concernedcitizensofflorida

A Special Report on the BP Gulf Oil Spill

By Dr. Tom Termotto

It is with deep regret that we publish this report. We do not take this responsibility lightly, as the consequences of the following observations are of such great import and have such far-reaching ramifications for the entire planet. Truly, the fate of the oceans of the world hangs in the balance, as does the future of humankind.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-03   11:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mcgowanjm (#67)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-03   11:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: mcgowanjm (#67)

Hot off the press...

BAGRAM AIR FIELD, Afghanistan – President Barack Obama slipped unannounced into dangerous Afghanistan on Friday, one year after widening an ever deadlier war and just days before a pivotal review about the 9-year-plus conflict. Plans for a face-to-face meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai were scrapped at the last minute.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-12-03   11:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Fred Mertz, All (#69)

Plans for a face-to-face meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai were scrapped at the last minute.

That was the theme.

After flying 1/2way around the world ther were all kinds of reasons why Obama couldn't get to see Karzai. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-03   19:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Badeye (#68)

And you have yet to provide a single link to the FBI demonstrating your bullshit claim 'the phone call never happened'.

8D

Plans for a face-to-face meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai were scrapped at the last minute.

No sense in using .95/qt oil, and then having to replace it with $4/qt oil.

Google FBI Olsen Wife for details. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-03   20:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: All (#71) (Edited)

And we have yet to here who the NEADS guy was that demanded the Langley SOF take his jet up with the other two pilots, essentially flying blind into DC.

Not all Americans are deluded. I am not referring to ordinary folks who have to live with this mess, who are hoping their unemployment benefits won't be cut off. I'm thinking of the ones who think we're simply experiencing a particularly bad Business Cycle, who think Progress is automatic, that it's inexorable and inevitable, that there is indeed a Free Lunch. This is our secular religion, and our High Priests—mostly economists, overpaid corporate CEOs and bullish investors—still have faith. These are America's propagandists. "You'll see," they say, "one day those gloomy dark clouds will part and the Sun will once again shine on this God-blessed enterprise called the United States of America."

No it won't! The Sun's not gonna shine, OK? Ain't coming out. Got it? Not unless, that is, this society takes extraordinary but seemingly impossible measures to rectify our deteriorating situation. Getting rid of Goldman Sachs would be a good start. Getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq and everywhere else and cutting the military budget in half would be another important step in the right direction. Or how about a little redistribution of the wealth?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-12-03   20:03:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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