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Title: WikiLeaks provides the truth Bush obscured
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URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 2903248.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
Published: Nov 29, 2010
Author: Richard Cohen
Post Date: 2010-11-29 14:46:04 by go65
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Views: 29322
Comments: 57

Say what you want about WikiLeaks - and I don't much like what it has done - it nevertheless would be useful for its founder, Julian Assange, to follow George W. Bush as he lopes around the country, promoting his new book, "Decision Points." When, for instance, Bush attempts to justify the Iraq war by saying the world is a better place without Saddam Hussein, Assange could reach into his bag of leaked U.S. government cables and cite Saudi King Abdullah's private observation that the war had given Iraq to Iran as a "gift on a golden platter."

Iraq now has a Shiite-dominated government and many senior officials who are ominously friendly with Iran. It was always American policy to use Saddam's Iraq to counterbalance Iran since it was really Iran that posed a danger to the region. That danger is now amply documented in the new WikiLeaks documents - including the revelation that North Korea has sold Iran missiles capable of reaching, say, Tel Aviv or, a minute or so later, Cairo.

To a certain extent the leaked documents contain the rawest form of gossip. It is amusing to learn that Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi is psychologically gridlocked with all sorts of neurotic ticks and will not travel without his Ukrainian nurse, described as a "voluptuous blonde." It is good to see that parody of a blowhard, Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, characterized as being in the pocket of Russia's Vladimir Putin and fun to wonder, in a Scrooge McDuck moment, how Afghanistan's vice president was able to take $52 million in cash out of the country and get it through customs in the United Arab Emirates last year when you and I get stopped for having a small bottle of shampoo. Something's wrong here, I suspect.

The Arab world's alarm at the imminence of an Iranian bomb is on full display in the leaked documents - as is the Obama administration's methodical and effective attempts to isolate Tehran. Saudi Arabia's Abdullah implored Washington to "cut off the head of the snake" while there was still time, and the United Arab Emirates "agreed with [U.S. Gen. John P.] Abizaid that Iran's new President [Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad seemed unbalanced, crazy even." Some months later the Emirates' defense chief, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed of Abu Dhabi, told Abizaid that the United States needed to take action against Iran "this year or next." If cables from Jordan and Egypt could be read, they would be no different. The (Sunni) Arab world loathes and fears Iran on sectarian grounds and also because it espouses a revolutionary doctrine of the sort kings and dictators find disquieting.

This is the world George Bush left us. It exists everywhere but in his book, where facts are either omitted or rearranged so that the war in Iraq seems the product of pure reason. As my colleague, the indefatigably indefatigable Walter Pincus, has pointed out, Bush manages to bollix up both the chronology and the importance of the various inspections of Iraq's weapons systems so as to suggest that any other president given the same set of facts would have gone to war. "I had tried to address the threat from Saddam Hussein without war," he writes. On that score, he is simply not credible.

The accumulating evidence at the time showed that Iraq lacked a nuclear weapons program and did not have biological weapons either. As for its chemical weapons program, while harder to ferret out, it not only no longer existed, but even if it had, it was insufficient reason to go to war. Poison gas has been around since the Second Battle of Ypres. That was 1915. "The absence of WMD stockpiles did not change the fact that Saddam was a threat," Bush writes. Heads he wins, tails you lose.

Reading Bush's book, seeing him in his various TV appearances, I keep thinking of Menachem Begin, the late Israeli prime minister. In 1982, Begin took Israel to war in Lebanon. It cost Israel as many as 675 dead, 4,000 wounded and its image as invincible on the battlefield. Begin took responsibility. He resigned and became a recluse, a depressed and beaten man.

I suggest no such course for Bush - only that he read the WikiLeaks documents and, for the sake of history and the instruction it offers, reassess his vaunted decisions. His jejune approach to decision- making - know yourself but not necessarily the facts - is downright repellent. On the book's dust jacket, Bush is shown in a ranching outfit. A Peter Pan outfit would be more fitting. Like him, Bush has never grown up.

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#3. To: go65 (#0) (Edited)

the war had given Iraq to Iran as a "gift on a golden platter."

Iraq now has a Shiite-dominated government and many senior officials who are ominously friendly with Iran.

This is exactly right. Iran was the only effective counterbalance to Iran in the middle east. They fought a war for 8 years. They would have fought again.

The other long term consequence of the Iraq war could be the destabilization of Turkey. Iraq has a large Kurdish population. So does Turkey. Turkey's Kurdish areas stretch deep into the center of the country. The Kurds in both Iran and Turkey long to have their own country. At some point, Shiite control of Iraq could throw the country into civil war, at which point the Kurds might try to form a Kurdistan, incorporating large parts of Turkey into the process.

The Iraq war cost America $1 trillion and the lives of over 4,000 American kids. American didn't get any benefit from it. The downstream problems it could cause are large and unpredictable.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-30   9:03:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jwpegler (#3)

the war had given Iraq to Iran as a "gift on a golden platter." Iraq now has a Shiite-dominated government and many senior officials who are ominously friendly with Iran.

This is exactly right. Iran was the only effective counterbalance to Iran in the middle east. They fought a war for 8 years. They would have fought again.

Uh...no.

1. Iraq's military never recovered from the Gulf War. They did NOT have the capability to fight another war with Iran. The only reason Iran didn't wipe the floor with Saddam and Son's in the wake of the Gulf War was because they believed they would face WMD's AGAIN.

2. The biggest 'counterweight' to Iran is its own inability to provide logistics to its own military. Iran has no means of attacking any nation it can't 'walk to'.

3. Look at a map of the region. On September 10th, 2001, Iran had a puppet regime to its west, the Taliban in Afghanistan. It had a desperately weak Iraq to its east. Today, it has democracy's in both countries. Afghanistan, while tenuously holding on to its fledgling democracy, has enough US military power to take down Iran if we had to 'go there'. As does Iraq. To suggest Iran is in a 'better position' today simply defies the facts on the ground in comparision to a decade ago.

Prior to taking down Saddam and Son's, and the Taliban, for just one glaring example, we would have been forced to rely on B-52's and B2 bombers flying from the Continental US, or maybe out of Deigo Garcia in the Indian Ocean, along with the fleet Carriers, if it came down to open war with Iran. Today, we have airfields in Iraq and Afghanistan.

We have a very strong logistical chain into Iraq, we have one in Afghanistan that isn't nearly as 'strong' but still, its THERE TODAY.

There are other aspects debunking the assertion 'Iran is in a stronger position today' theory, but you get the drift I'm sure.

4. Do I have to point out this claim is coming from the Saudi's, and that given their history of 'military expertise' its laughable to take it seriously? Guess so....(laughing)

What, Ethiopian military experts weren't available for comment?

rotflmao

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   9:19:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#4)

They did NOT have the capability to fight another war with Iran.

So you admit that despite claims by Bush and Cheney, Iraq hadn't reconstituted their WMD programs?

Seriously?

go65  posted on  2010-11-30   9:48:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#7)

They did NOT have the capability to fight another war with Iran.

So you admit that despite claims by Bush and Cheney, Iraq hadn't reconstituted their WMD programs?

Admit? We know that didn't happen, despite what Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Al Gore, John Edwards, Joe Lieberman claimed prior to the invasion of Iraq.

And yes, Bush and Cheney did agree with the Democratic Party's Presidential tickets of 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004 about Iraq's WMD program.

Bush and Cheney did agree with the NSA, the CIA, the governments of Iran, Kuwait, France, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Italy, Egypt, Germany, Britain, Belguim, Sweden, South Korean, Australia, Japan, Libya, Canada, Mexico, Chile, and the entire UN General Assembly excluding the 'usual suspects'.

And yes, Bush and Cheney agreed with the previous Administration's position of 'regime change' in Iraq. Nice bit of bi partisanship when you recall who said what.

Oh, almost forgot, the vast majority of the House and Senate, including a HUGE MAJORITY of DEMOCRATS also not only believed it, but VOTED FOR THE WAR to remove Saddam and Son's.

Another nice bit of bi partisanship there.

Thanks for bring up the memories of a time when Democrats and Republicans could in fact work together.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   10:24:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#12)

Oh, almost forgot, the vast majority of the House and Senate, including a HUGE MAJORITY of DEMOCRATS also not only believed it, but VOTED FOR THE WAR to remove Saddam and Son's.

Another nice bit of bi partisanship there.

Thanks for bring up the memories of a time when Democrats and Republicans could in fact work together.

It was unpatriotic to disagree with Bush; "you hate Bush and you hate America". It was the kind of bi-partisanship coveted by tyrants everywhere.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-30   11:45:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lucysmom (#36)

It was unpatriotic to disagree with Bush; "you hate Bush and you hate America". It was the kind of bi-partisanship coveted by tyrants everywhere.

It was 'unpatriotic'?

Who claimed THAT?

Do YOU have a link?

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   11:53:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Badeye (#40)

Who claimed THAT?

Here is just one example:

"Imperial President, Opposing Bush becomes unpatriotic."

www.slate.com/id/2106109/

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-30   12:02:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#44. To: lucysmom (#43)

Who claimed THAT? Here is just one example:

"Imperial President, Opposing Bush becomes unpatriotic."

www.slate.com/id/2106109/

The Liberal AUTHOR claimed it, nobody in the article is quoted as saying such a thing.

So here is 'none' not 'one'.

Perhaps you need to look around a bit more?

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