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Title: WikiLeaks: Yemeni president covers up U.S. strikes
Source: AFP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2010112 ... militaryinternetwikileaksyemen
Published: Nov 28, 2010
Author: AFP
Post Date: 2010-11-28 23:00:58 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Yemen, obama
Views: 15171
Comments: 22

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh admits covering up US military strikes on Al-Qaeda in Yemen by claiming they are carried out by Yemeni forces, according to US documents leaked by WikiLeaks.

"We'll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours," Saleh said in January talks with General David Petraeus, then commander of US forces in the Middle East, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable published by the New York Times.

The cable was sent by the US ambassador to Yemen, the daily said.

The daily said the remarks prompted Yemen's deputy prime minister to "joke that he had just 'lied' by telling parliament" that Yemeni forces had staged the strikes against Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, Al-Qaeda's Yemeni arm.

And during a meeting about Al-Qaeda with John Brennan, the US deputy national security adviser, Saleh was "dismissive, bored and impatient," according to another leaked US diplomatic cable published in Britain's The Guardian.

The Washington Post reported earlier this month that Washington had deployed drones to hunt down jihadists.

With more than 100,000 US troops fighting Al-Qaeda's allies in Afghanistan and public skepticism in Yemen over the US military's role there, US officials have stressed that Sanaa will lead the fight against Islamist militants.

On November 16, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said providing equipment and training to Yemeni security forces offered the best way to counter the threat posed by Al-Qaeda militants.

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#1. To: WhiteSands (#0)

For the past TEN years, us DIRTY fuckin Hippies have been right on the mark

and been ignored, laughed at, attacked.

When's the last time you heard about Exxon's Liquifaction Gas Train in Yemen?

While Yemenis don't even have electricity.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   8:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

27 November Harold Hongju Koh, Legal Adviser, United States Department of State to Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks

We will not engage in a negotiation regarding the further release or dissemination of illegally obtained U.S. Government classified materials. PDF

28 November Julian Assange, Editor in Chief, WikiLeaks to US Ambassador to London, Louis Susman

I understand that the United States government would prefer not to have the information that will be published in the public domain and is not in favour of openness. That said, either there is a risk or there is not. You have chosen to respond in a manner which leads me to conclude that the supposed risks are entirely fanciful and you are instead concerned to suppress evidence of human rights abuse and other criminal behaviour. PDF

TwitThis

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

The Free Speech Blog: Official blog of Index on Censorship

Wikileaks shows up our media for their docility at the feet of authority 29Nov10 – 10:27 am by John Kampfner

You should never shout “fire” in a crowded theatre. Once you have accepted this old adage, you accept that there are limits to free expression. The important word in the first sentence is not “fire”, but “crowded”. A crowded theatre would lead to a stampede. Where there is a real and identifiable danger, restraint should be shown. Context is everything in the free-speech debate; risk to life is an undeniable caveat. Most other caveats are, however, mere ruses by the powerful to prevent information from reaching the public domain.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:22:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

I'm waiting on those Afghan Cables.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Afghan 'police officer' kills six Nato troops

• Man in uniform turns gun on troops in eastern Afghanistan • Gunman shot dead after attack • No British troops in region, but many US forces

Share Haroon Siddique and agencies guardian.co.uk, Monday 29 November 2010 13.08 GMT Article history The incident took place in eastern Afghanistan where the majority of foreign forces are from the US. Photograph: Martin Bureau/AFP/Getty Images

Six Nato troops in Afghanistan were shot dead during a training exercise today by a man wearing a border police uniform, the coalition said.

The incident took place in eastern Afghanistan where the majority of foreign forces are from the US. There are no British troops in the region. It is the worst incident involving foreign troops in more than a month.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

And of course:

THE BIGGIE

More research would yield more information but what do we learn from all of this? The US is not alone in the employment of agent provocateurs but its history of use is well documented. Many groups and individuals have been targeted, groups defined by the FBI as subversive. Any yet we are supposed to believe ATS 9/11 threads have been devoid of this kind of activity, well let me ask, who here does not think ATS has its own agent provocateurs watching the threads.

It's happened before 9/11 and since 9/11 but somehow 9/11 truth is immune to these terrible government actions?

Peace

PS keep it civil.

You don't actually believe that Al Qaeda is more than the CIA/MI6/MOSSAD eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

5. U.S. foreign policy relies heavily on blog-ready gossip items.

To get into the U.S. Foreign Service (and thus write diplomatic cables), applicants are required to pass an hours-long, highly competitive written examination, followed by an even more competitive oral examination and then go through months of intensive training. Then, it appears, they are dispatched to foreign embassies to write gossip about high level officials.

A sample? Libyan President Muammar al-Qadhafi gets Botox and travels constantly with a "voluptuous blonde" Ukrainian nurse named Galyna Kolotnytska. Azerbaijani First Lady Mehriban Alijewa has had so many facelifts that she resembles her own daughter from a distance -- but you can tell the difference close-up because she can't really move her face. A British Labour minister is quite the player (and is having marital problems) and might be bipolar. Russia's Vladimir Putin and Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi might have more in common than their reported extramarital shenanigans -- they could well be in business together, too. Russian President Dmitri Medved's wife, Svetlana, reportedly keeps a blacklist of staffers she deems insufficiently committed to her husband. Oh, and German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle is basically considered an idiot who knows little about foreign policy, but only the Germans really care about that.

Your tax dollars at work.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#6)

If WikiLeaks existed before 9-11:

French intelligence quickly supplied further background, confirming Moussaoui's fighting for a "foreign power" -- Chechnyan rebels, whose leader was reportedly connected to al Qaeda. By Aug. 23, the case was deemed so suspicious that it was briefed in detail to Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet, with a PowerPoint slide titled: "Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly."

FBI Special Agent Samit would later testify at Moussaoui's trial that he believed the actions of his FBI superiors in Washington constituted "criminal negligence." I was close enough to this case to be able to agree with Samit.

What if Samit had decided that it was his higher duty as a public servant to do all possible to protect his fellow citizens, and that, thwarted as he was by careerists in Washington, he could only accomplish this by going public. Samit had routinely given the report on Moussaoui a SECRET classification. But he would need to excerpt only enough to dislodge the airlines, the Federal Aviation Agency, and oblivious Americans from their collective stupor.

This, of course, was the pre-WikiLeaks era, and I doubt that the option of going public would have even occurred to Samit -- or to his immediate supervisor in Minneapolis, even though the latter pulled out all the stops in pleading with FBI Headquarters for permission to move against Moussaoui. The supervisor went so far as to warn Washington that he was "trying to keep someone from taking a plane and crashing into the World Trade Center." (Yes, he was that prescient and specific.)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

And The cables between US Israel!!!!

Afghan 'police officer' kills six Nato troops • Man in uniform turns gun on troops in eastern Afghanistan • Gunman shot dead after attack • No British troops in region, but many US forces

Share Haroon Siddique and agencies guardian.co.uk, Monday 29 November 2010 13.08 GMT Article history The incident took place in eastern Afghanistan where the majority of foreign forces are from the US. Photograph: Martin Bureau/AFP/Getty Images Six Nato troops in Afghanistan were shot dead during a training exercise today by a man wearing a border police uniform, the coalition said.

The incident took place in eastern Afghanistan where the majority of foreign forces are from the US. There are no British troops in the region. It is the worst incident involving foreign troops in more than a month.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mcgowanjm (#7)

If WikiLeaks existed before 9-11:

The attack still would have taken place, and the result would most likely have been exactly the same.

Its a statistical certainty we have 'key information' somewhere in the system regarding every attack planned then executed.

The problem, as some of us understand clearly, is it only becomes 'key information' post attack. The system sucks up so much data its impossible to get it all catagorized.

To suggest wikileaks could have 'stopped 9/11' is absurd, but typical of the 9/11 truthers bizzaro world.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-29   9:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#9)

If WikiLeaks existed before 9-11:

The attack still would have taken place, and the result would most likely have been exactly the same.

Its a statistical certainty we have 'key information' somewhere in the system regarding every attack planned then executed.

The problem, as some of us understand clearly, is it only becomes 'key information' post attack. The system sucks up so much data its impossible to get it all catagorized.

To suggest wikileaks could have 'stopped 9/11' is absurd, but typical of the 9/11 truthers bizzaro world.

And Thank You.

Of course Assange dismisses Conspiracy on 9/11, which puts a shadow on what he's publishing now, but since it's keeping yhe US busy, I'm all for it. ;}

The info I posted is ignored by you and yours. This wasn't a One OFF, it was Minneapolis REPEATEDLY DEMANDING that Moussaui's Computer be searched.

And repeatedly FBIDC says no.

The ONLY FISA ever rejected.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   9:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#7)

The U.S. entrance into The Great War made impossible a negotiated end to the conflict that had turned Europe into a vast charnel house: the prolongation of the war set in motion the events that led to the rise of Soviet Russia, and the hugely and unjustifiably punitive peace that followed played a very significant role in the rise of Nazi Germany. Thus, Wilson's fateful act led to World War II, which in turn led to the Cold War, which led to endless "small" wars across the globe (including in Afghanistan) -- which led us to the disasters of today.

And we've never looked back:

From the USS Maine to the Lusitania to Pearl Harbor to the Gulf of Tonkin to the Green Light of April Glaspie/Poppy to 9/11.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   10:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

There are several other examples of conscientious -- but unheeded and thus unsung -- security officials who did their jobs prior to 9/11, but were repeatedly frustrated by careerist risk-avoiders at more senior levels. Suffice it to adduce just one more example.

In the months before 9/11, Federal Air Marshal Bogdan Dzakovic led a Federal Aviation Administration's "Red Team" tasked with determining how easy it would be to penetrate airport security for hijackings. The team succeeded 90 percent of the time in uncovering weaknesses in airport and airline security that could enable hijackers to smuggle weapons aboard and seize control of airplanes. But his team's reports were ignored and suppressed. And right after 9/11, the FAA Red Team was shut down.

"FAA had the moniker 'Tombstone Agency,' and the reason they had that moniker is they never did anything until people got killed," Dzakovic later explained.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

Of course Collen Rowley ascribes the above to blundering, rules following apparatchiks, and not conscientious Empire Planning Strategy.

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There are several other examples of conscientious -- but unheeded and thus unsung -- security officials who did their jobs prior to 9/11, but were repeatedly frustrated by careerist risk-avoiders at more senior levels. Suffice it to adduce just one more example.

In the months before 9/11, Federal Air Marshal Bogdan Dzakovic led a Federal Aviation Administration's "Red Team" tasked with determining how easy it would be to penetrate airport security for hijackings. The team succeeded 90 percent of the time in uncovering weaknesses in airport and airline security that could enable hijackers to smuggle weapons aboard and seize control of airplanes. But his team's reports were ignored and suppressed. And right after 9/11, the FAA Red Team was shut down.

"FAA had the moniker 'Tombstone Agency,' and the reason they had that moniker is they never did anything until people got killed," Dzakovic later explained.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   10:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#13)

Great stuff James, keep 'em coming!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-29   10:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Fred Mertz (#14)

Note not a word about US/Israel cables?

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   11:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#15)

Nothing about China/Japan?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   11:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

Note not a word about US/Israel cables?

Yes, I've noticed that.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-29   11:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

The info I posted is ignored by you and yours.

Nope, but its okay if you want to pretend otherwise.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-29   11:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye, All (#18)

The info I posted is ignored by you and yours.

Nope, but its okay if you want to pretend otherwise.

So, it's either that, or you're obfuscating what I say.

You're certainly not agreeing with it. LMFAO

Care to point out a discussion we've had on this?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   11:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye, All (#18)

The info I posted is ignored by you and yours.

Nope, but its okay if you want to pretend otherwise.

To suggest wikileaks could have 'stopped 9/11' is absurd, but typical of the 9/11 truthers bizzaro world.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye posted

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

From what is now known about the brick walls Dzakovic and his Red Team ran into, the disbanding of the Red Team itself, AND the subsequent 9/11 Commission whitewash -- not to mention the Moussaoui case -- the questions posed in our first paragraph seem to answer themselves. In our view, it is a no-brainer that ALL of us would have been better served if FAA and FBI officials had decided to take advantage of a site like WikiLeaks to warn their fellow citizens, rather than continue to try to move a moribund federal bureaucracy and lethargic Congress to act.

As for now and the future, to the degree WikiLeaks can establish a reputation for confidentiality and efficiency, and can dodge retaliatory measures by the Pentagon and other cyber warriors, the more likely it will be that, next time, patriots like Dzakovic and Samit will be inclined to resort to the ether as the most accessible and expeditious way to issue warnings for the public at large, in hopes of heading off needless loss of life."

Can you even type Moussaui FBI Olsen received ZERO calls from wife.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   11:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Fred Mertz (#17)

Note not a word about US/Israel cables?

Yes, I've noticed that.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   11:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#21)

Note not a word about US/Israel cables?

Yes, I've noticed that.

;}

Best reason so far.

The folks writing the cables ARE pro Israel to begin with.

Do you think they're gonna be dissing them in their missives?

Sure fire way to find yourself in a Backwater Outpost, eh?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-30   9:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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