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Title: Bomb suspect to classmate: 'I hate Americans'
Source: msnbc
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40402994/ns/us_news-security/
Published: Nov 28, 2010
Author: NBC, msnbc.com and news services
Post Date: 2010-11-28 15:38:23 by WhiteSands
Keywords: Mohamed Osman Mohamud, islam
Views: 45893
Comments: 74

PORTLAND, Ore. — The Somali-born university student met with an undercover FBI agent in August at a Portland hotel and told him he had found the perfect location for a terrorist attack: the city's annual Christmas tree lighting ceremony.

Mohamed Osman Mohamud told the agent that he had dreamed of carrying out an attack for years, and the city's Pioneer Courthouse Square would be packed with thousands, "a huge mass that will ... be attacked in their own element with their families celebrating the holidays," according to an affidavit.

On Friday, Mohamud parked what he thought was a bomb-laden van near the ceremony and then went to a nearby train station, where he dialed a cell phone that he believed would detonate the vehicle. Instead, federal authorities moved in and arrested him. No one was hurt.

The case is the latest in a string of alleged terrorist plots by U.S. citizens or residents, including one at Times Square in which a Pakistan-born man pleaded guilty earlier this year to trying to set off a car bomb at a busy street corner.

Officials said Mohamud had no formal ties to foreign terror groups, although he had reached out to suspected terrorists in Pakistan.

Authorities have not explained how a young Muslim man described by friends as an average university student who drank an occasional beer and hung out with fraternity friends became radicalized.

Mohamud is scheduled to appear in court on Monday, and it wasn't clear if he had a lawyer yet.

FBI agents say they began investigating after receiving a tip from an unidentified person who expressed concern about Mohamud. The Washington Post reported that the tip came from a member of the Muslim community.

At 15, he told undercover agents, he made a prayer for guidance, "about whether I should ... go, you know, and make jihad in a different country or to make like an operation here."

Mohamud graduated from high school in Beaverton. In a science class, he once gave presentation on how a rocket-propelled grenade worked, NBC station KGW-TV reported.

One of Mohamud's former classmates told KGW of an argument the pair had over a messy locker. "The main thing was, the way he said he hated Americans," said Andy Stull. "It was serious. He looked me in the eye and had this look in his eye, like it was his determination in life – 'I hate Americans!'"

Mohamud dropped out of Oregon State University in Corvallis on Oct. 6, the school said. He hadn't declared a major.

Yosof Wanly, imam at the Salman Alfarisi Islamic Center in Corvallis, said Mohamud was a normal student who went to athletic events, drank the occasional beer and was into rap music and culture.

Wanly said Mohamud was religious but didn't come to the mosque consistently. Meanwhile, authorities say arson caused a fire at that same mosque early Sunday morning. Carla Pusateri, a fire prevention officer for the Corvallis Fire Department, said "quite a bit of evidence" was left at the scene, which led her to believe the fire was intentionally set. No injuries have been reported.

The fire on Sunday was contained to one room, burning 80 percent of the center's office, Wanly said. The worship areas were untouched.

Beginning in August 2009, court documents allege, Mohamud began e-mail communications with a friend overseas who had studied in Oregon, asking how he could travel to Pakistan and join the fight for jihad.

The e-mail exchanges led the FBI to believe that Mohamud's friend in Pakistan "had joined others involved in terrorist activities" and was inviting Mohamud to join him, prosecutors say. Subscribe to *Liberals spiritual kinsmen*

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#1. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Which begs the question: why was he brought here if he hates us?

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2010-11-28   15:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Bomb suspect to classmate: 'I hate Americans'

You sure picked a piss poor country to live in then if you feel that way, and as far as I'm concerned, the feeling is mutual, liver lips ....

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-11-28   16:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: WhiteSands (#0)

I think we should send him back home to his beloved Somalia, all expenses paid. AFTER we tattoo a large Christian cross on his chest and a star of David on his back.

“There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it.”

Abcdefg  posted on  2010-11-28   18:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Abcdefg, WhiteSands (#3)

Don't forget to tattoo "I LOVE the USA!" on his forehead, and then chop off his right hand also.

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-11-28   18:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#1)

Which begs the question: why was he brought here if he hates us?

Because America is dedicated to spreading chaos and wreaking havoc.

A pity no Americans were killed in this attack.

anglobitch.com

continental op  posted on  2010-11-28   18:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Note we never hear about this guy's Grade Level Intelligence.

I'm betting 5th grade.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-29   8:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: WhiteSands (#0)

This makes nine attempted terror attacks since Owe-bama's Inauguration (that we know about).

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-29   9:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

This makes nine attempted terror attacks since Owe-bama's Inauguration (that we know about).

Remind me again who was president on Sept 11, 2001?

meguro  posted on  2010-11-29   18:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: meguro (#8)

Remind me again who was president on Sept 11, 2001?

Don't hold your breath waiting. Rush Limbaugh doesn't talk about that.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-29   18:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Skip Intro (#9)

Don't hold your breath waiting. Rush Limbaugh doesn't talk about that.

I'm sure the answer will be to blame Clinton, or Obama before the fact.

meguro  posted on  2010-11-29   18:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: meguro (#10)

I'm sure the answer will be to blame Clinton

You'd win the cigar with that guess.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-29   18:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: meguro (#8)

This makes nine attempted terror attacks since Owe-bama's Inauguration (that we know about). Remind me again who was president on Sept 11, 2001?

What does that have to do with noting the terrorists are escalating over the past two years, more or less?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   8:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Skip Intro (#9)

Remind me again who was president on Sept 11, 2001? Don't hold your breath waiting. Rush Limbaugh doesn't talk about that.

Hi lardass, wrong again. Stick to juvenile insults, it suits your intelligence level.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   8:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: meguro (#10)

Don't hold your breath waiting. Rush Limbaugh doesn't talk about that. I'm sure the answer will be to blame Clinton, or Obama before the fact.

Wrong again, I was simply noting al Qaeda is escalating again.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   8:53:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Skip Intro (#11)

I'm sure the answer will be to blame Clinton You'd win the cigar with that guess.

rotflmao. DUMB LARDASS....(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   8:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Badeye (#12)

What does that have to do with noting the terrorists are escalating over the past two years, more or less?

Are you claiming it has something to do with Obama?

If so, similarly, would it be fair to at least place some of the blame for 9/11 on Bush?

meguro  posted on  2010-11-30   14:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#13)

You've combined two separate posts there, moron.

How's business?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   14:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: meguro (#16)

What does that have to do with noting the terrorists are escalating over the past two years, more or less? Are you claiming it has something to do with Obama?

Do you see any reference to Owe-bama?

Nope.

I'm noting the terrorists are ESCALATING again.

Sheesh.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   14:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Skip Intro (#17)

You've combined two separate posts there, moron.

How's business?

Hi lardass. How's your mom and my kids?

Business is doing better than expected, try not to burst into another round of tears, eh?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   14:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Skip Intro, Badeye (#17)

"How's business"?

If his business is anything like my business, then I'm sure it's STILL none of your business, hillary....

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-11-30   14:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Murron (#20)

Don't pay any mind to skippy, he's just screwed up in the head because I saw his house, and those of his leetle friends, via google.

Couldn't have done THAT without his link to my company website a few months back. Its been facinating seeing 'who's who' these past few weeks.

Really facinating.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   14:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#21)

without his link to my company website a few months back.

Did he reveal personal info here on line?

-----------------------------------------------------------
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-30   14:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: WhiteSands (#22)

without his link to my company website a few months back. Did he reveal personal info here on line?

Nothing that wasn't already 'out there' WS.

Its amusing to me though. The corporate website captures every ISP that hits it via our website manager program. So skippy and Brian S inadvertently revealed every single one of the 'anti groupies' to me, including of course, themselves.

I suppose its an example of what 'mindless hate' will get you.

Unlike the 'haters' I won't use what I know as a result of this just because I disagree with somebody's politics/point of view/opinion.

Unless they get really stupid, and take the nonsense I see in forums like this out of the 'virtual world' into the real world.

Then...yep, I'll go 'nuclear'. Google earth is a fun but dangerous toy if you know what your doing with it. So are court records, county administration online databases, divorces, tax records,foreclosure, bankruptcies, using pony's as tax dodges, etc etc etc.

But I doubt it will ever come to that. When you know a gun is cocked and pointed at your head, you tend to be...polite.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#21) (Edited)

"Don't pay any mind to skippy,.."

I usually don't, but murron didn't do it...RG did. &;-)

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-11-30   15:22:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Murron (#24)

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Murron (#20)

f his business is anything like my business, then I'm sure it's STILL none of your business, hillary..

But he makes it our business, Mammy.

Not that I think you're smart enough to be able to grasp that, you understand.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   15:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Skip Intro (#26)

Whats a matter, lardass? (laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: WhiteSands (#22)

Did he reveal personal info here on line?

Whitey, whitey, whitey. That's what you're hubby does. That's why he ends up getting his worthless ass thrown off so many sites.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   15:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Badeye (#27)

Why nothing at all, loser.

What's the matter with you? Business down?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   15:51:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Skip Intro (#28)

I was banned from Storm Front lite, skippy. One banning in 14 years of posting.

You on the other hand, got banned from your own home more times, as we both know (now).

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Skip Intro (#29)

Why nothing at all, loser.

What's the matter with you? Business down?

Nope, quite the opposite.

Try not to burst into tears upon learning this, lardass. Have another twinkie.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:52:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Badeye (#21)

Don't pay any mind to skippy, he's just screwed up in the head because I saw his house, and those of his leetle friends, via google.

Why not post a picture, if you can?

I'll do the same for your house.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   15:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#31)

Nope, quite the opposite.

So Obama saved your ass.

You should thank him, since six months ago your failing business was all his fault.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   15:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Skip Intro (#32)

Don't pay any mind to skippy, he's just screwed up in the head because I saw his house, and those of his leetle friends, via google. Why not post a picture, if you can?

I'll do the same for your house.

No, I don't do that til I'm provoked, lardass.

You can do whatever you want. Its amusing, each time you or Brian S 'go there' it just proves I've been 100% honest about my life. For years you clowns claimed I was lying about owning a busines or two.

Funny how that fell by the wayside, eh, dumbass?

You want to go nuclear, fine by me. I have better weapons at my disposal. Go for it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Badeye (#34)

No, dumbshit, I'm calling your bluff.

Post a picture of my house. You said you could, so do it.

If you don't then you're a lying sack of shit, but we already knew that about you.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   15:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Skip Intro (#33)

Nope, quite the opposite. So Obama saved your ass.

rotflmao. Hardly. A dozen states have requirements to conduct background checks on teachers every three years. And several national youth leagues of various sorts requiring tens of thousands of background checks for the coming year.

I know you want to praise the Messiah, Barack Hussein Owe-bama. KNock yourself out. But small business's that survive have received NOTHING from this administration.

And they won't forget in 2012.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   15:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Skip Intro (#35)

No, dumbshit, I'm calling your bluff.

Post a picture of my house. You said you could, so do it.

If you don't then you're a lying sack of shit, but we already knew that about you.

Its not your house, skippy.

Still wanna play?

(roaring with laughter)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   16:00:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#37)

Its not your house, skippy.

So you can't.

Big talk, no action. No wonder you're a total failure.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Badeye (#18)

Do you see any reference to Owe-bama?

Nope.

Yup. Can't you even remember what you posted, or have I caught you in another lie?

This makes nine attempted terror attacks since Owe-bama's Inauguration (that we know about).

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-29   9:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

meguro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:08:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Skip Intro (#38)

Its not your house, skippy.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   16:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: meguro (#39)

Do you see any reference to Owe-bama? Nope.

Yup. Can't you even remember what you posted, or have I caught you in another lie?

This makes nine attempted terror attacks since Owe-bama's Inauguration (that we know about).

Still wasn't 'blaming Owe-bama'. You and a couple of others need to get that knee jerking check out by medical authorities.

The terrorists are ramping up, just like they did in 1998 and 1999 in my view.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   16:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Badeye (#40)

Its not your house, skippy.

Well, show it anyway, just to prove that you can.

Liar.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Skip Intro (#42)

Its not your house, skippy.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   16:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Badeye (#43)

Its not your house, skippy.

Well then, prove that.

Liar.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Skip Intro (#44)

Its not your house, skippy.

You already confirmed it up above, skippy, and I don't do magic tricks for children.

I respond 'in kind'. Ask the dwarf (laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   16:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Skip Intro (#26)

But he makes it our business, Mammy. Not that I think you're smart enough to be able to grasp that, you understand.

Oh, I'm smarter than you think, at least I'm not dangling on the end of a hook...lmaoay..

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-11-30   16:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Murron (#46)

at least I'm not dangling on the end of a hook...lmaoay..

Shhhhh....here comes the good part.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-30   16:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Badeye (#45)

You already confirmed it up above, skippy, and I don't do magic tricks for children.

I've confirmed nothing.

You can't do what you claimed and you're too big a pansy to admit it.

You're pathetic.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Murron (#46)

Oh, I'm smarter than you think,

Why not prove it by getting the name at the end of your tag line right?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:18:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Skip Intro (#49) (Edited)

Ouch! That's gonna hurt Mammy's feelings. She hates folks who act as spelling cops or grammar police, especially when she's the one being corrected.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-30   16:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Fred Mertz (#50) (Edited)

It's the second time I've suggested it to her.

She's seems kind of slow in the head.

Oh, it looks like she's got me back on bozo. She puts me on and off bozo like flipping a light switch. She needs to make up her mind and stick to it.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   16:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Murron (#24)

I usually don't, but murron didn't do it...RG did. &;-)

Why is Rebel Gal different?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-30   17:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Skip Intro (#48)

you're too big a pansy

Says the biggest liberal pussy!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-30   18:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Skip Intro, Murron (#26)

Not that I think

It is obvious to those of us who read what you post, big liberal pussy.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-30   18:06:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: A K A Stone (#52) (Edited)

Why is Rebel Gal different?

Each are a part of me, both have their own personalities...but it depends on who I'm speaking with, and the mood I'm in, that determines which one will post...&;-)

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-11-30   18:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ibluafartsky (#54)

If skippy can read, my tag say's it all....&;-)

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-11-30   18:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Murron (#56)

If skippy can read, my tag say's it all.

Why the ' in says, Mammy?

While I have no problem reading, you do have a problem writing.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-30   19:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Badeye (#41)

Still wasn't 'blaming Owe-bama'. You and a couple of others need to get that knee jerking check out by medical authorities.

The terrorists are ramping up, just like they did in 1998 and 1999 in my view.

Ok. So why, in your opinion, is this happening? BTW, who's "Owe-bama?"

meguro  posted on  2010-12-01   0:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: meguro (#58)

Ok. So why, in your opinion, is this happening? BTW, who's "Owe-bama?"

I think those that would kill us all follow the Art of War. Owe-bama appears weak, and thats when you attack according to that centuries old manual on warfare.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   9:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Badeye (#59)

To: meguro Ok. So why, in your opinion, is this happening? BTW, who's "Owe-bama?"

I think those that would kill us all follow the Art of War. Owe-bama appears weak, and thats when you attack according to that centuries old manual on warfare.

So then you are referencing and/or blaming Obama, or some other person named Owe-bama.

Sheesh.. make up your mind already.

meguro  posted on  2010-12-01   12:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: meguro (#60)

So then you are referencing and/or blaming Obama, or some other person named Owe-bama.

No blame here, no matter how much you wish for it.

I'm just noting the reality.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   12:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Badeye (#59)

I think those that would kill us all follow the Art of War. Owe-bama appears weak, and thats when you attack according to that centuries old manual on warfare.

So our enemies viewed Bush and Cheney as weak?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-01   12:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: go65 (#62)

So our enemies viewed Bush and Cheney as weak?

They viewed the nation as 'weak' in December of 2000 when bin Laden authorized the 9/11 attack. As bin Laden noted in a half a dozen 'messages' afterwards.

To the outside world, it appeared we were tearing each other apart over the POTUS election cycle of that year.

bin Laden made the exact same mistake the Japanese, Germans, and Italians made in December of 1941.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   13:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Badeye (#63)

They viewed the nation as 'weak' in December of 2000 when bin Laden authorized the 9/11 attack. As bin Laden noted in a half a dozen 'messages' afterwards.

Uh huh.

And they kept viewing us as week through the 2000's as they ramped up attacks in Iraq and elsewhere?

I guess they also viewed Reagan as weak when they attacked us in Lebanon and Bush Sr. as weak when they blew a PanAm 747 out of the sky over Lockerbie.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-01   13:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: go65 (#64)

And they kept viewing us as week through the 2000's as they ramped up attacks in Iraq and elsewhere?

Yep. They were counting on the Democratic Party apparently...

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   13:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: go65 (#64)

I guess they also viewed Reagan as weak when they attacked us in Lebanon

You don't really pay attention to what bin Laden says, do you?

He cited the withdrawal from Lebanon after the Beirut bombing as one of the reasons he thought we were 'weak' and 'wouldn't fight'.

You can find this information for yourself quite easily btw.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   13:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Badeye (#66)

He cited the withdrawal from Lebanon after the Beirut bombing as one of the reasons he thought we were 'weak' and 'wouldn't fight'.

OK, we agree that they viewed Reagan as weak.

And, they must have viewed Bush/Cheney as weak or they wouldn't have continued to attack us for all the years they were in the White House.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-01   13:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: go65 (#67)

He cited the withdrawal from Lebanon after the Beirut bombing as one of the reasons he thought we were 'weak' and 'wouldn't fight'. OK, we agree that they viewed Reagan as weak.

And, they must have viewed Bush/Cheney as weak or they wouldn't have continued to attack us for all the years they were in the White House.

Just one more example of why liberals can't be trusted with national security issues, GO.

You guys think its only a partisan issue. bin Laden and his ilk want us ALL dead. They dont' care who you voted for last month.

Dem or Repub, it doesn't matter to THEM.

It only matters to liberals like you, as this thread demonstrates conclusively.

Thanks for playing, though.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-01   14:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Badeye (#61)

No blame here, no matter how much you wish for it.

Reading comprehension difficulties? I said "referencing and/or blaming.". You obviously think Obama has something to do with it or you wouldn't mention him. That's referencing.

meguro  posted on  2010-12-01   20:34:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Badeye (#68)

Just one more example of why liberals can't be trusted with national security issues, GO.

So we should go back to those who got over 7,000 Americans killed on their watch at the hands of terrorists?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-01   20:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Badeye (#66)

You don't really pay attention to what bin Laden says, do you?

yes, he said he hoped to draw us into a military confrontation in the middle east that would bankrupt us.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-12-01   20:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: meguro (#69)

You obviously think Obama has something to do with it or you wouldn't mention him. That's referencing.

Not specifically, but if you want to pretend otherwise no problem.

My point is the terrorists are in fact ramping up once again, just as they did in the late 1990's.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-02   10:05:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: go65 (#70)

Just one more example of why liberals can't be trusted with national security issues, GO. So we should go back to those who got over 7,000 Americans killed on their watch at the hands of terrorists?

You can do whatever you like. Want to review the 900 American killed between the 72 Munich Massacre, and September 10th, 2001?

Fine by me.

Up until 9/11, we allowed them to slaughter Americans routinely. Post 9/11, we fight back.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-02   10:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: go65 (#71)

You don't really pay attention to what bin Laden says, do you? yes, he said he hoped to draw us into a military confrontation in the middle east that would bankrupt us.

Actually he said he hoped we would fight them in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and that the center of gravity in the war was Iraq. He confidently predicted al Qaeda would win there.

He was wrong as we all know.

The center has shifted to Afghanistan. And they are losing the battles there as well. That said, as you know I think we should get out of that hell hole asap.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-12-02   10:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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