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Title: George Bush Book 'Decision Points' Lifted From Advisers' Books
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URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/ ... y&utm_term=Daily+Brief#s181208
Published: Nov 12, 2010
Author: Ryan Grim
Post Date: 2010-11-12 23:41:32 by go65
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Views: 41491
Comments: 78

When Crown Publishing inked a deal with George W. Bush for his memoirs, the publisher knew it wasn't getting Faulkner. But the book, at least, promises "gripping, never-before-heard detail" about the former president's key decisions, offering to bring readers "aboard Air Force One on 9/11, in the hours after America's most devastating attack since Pearl Harbor; at the head of the table in the Situation Room in the moments before launching the war in Iraq," and other undisclosed and weighty locations.

Crown also got a mash-up of worn-out anecdotes from previously published memoirs written by his subordinates, from which Bush lifts quotes word for word, passing them off as his own recollections. He took equal license in lifting from nonfiction books about his presidency or newspaper or magazine articles from the time. Far from shedding light on how the president approached the crucial "decision points" of his presidency, the clip jobs illuminate something shallower and less surprising about Bush's character: He's too lazy to write his own memoir.

Bush, on his book tour, makes much of the fact that he largely wrote the book himself, guffawing that critics who suspected he didn't know how to read are now getting a comeuppance. Not only does Bush know how to read, it turns out, he knows how to Google, too. Or his assistant does. Bush notes in his acknowledgments that "[m]uch of the research for this book was conducted by the brilliant and tireless Peter Rough. Peter spent the past 18 months digging through archives, searching the internet[s], and sifting through reams of paper." Bush also collaborated on the book with his former speechwriter, Christopher Michel.

Many of Bush's literary misdemeanors exemplify pedestrian sloth, but others are higher crimes against the craft of memoir. In one prime instance, Bush relates a poignant meeting between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and a Tajik warlord on Karzai's Inauguration Day. It's the kind of scene that offers a glimpse of a hopeful future for the beleaguered nation. Witnessing such an exchange could color a president's outlook, could explain perhaps Bush's more optimistic outlook and give insight into his future decisions. Except Bush didn't witness it. Because he wasn't at Karzai's inauguration.

His absence doesn't stop Bush from relating this anecdote: "When Karzai arrived in Kabul for his inauguration on December 22 - 102 days after 9/11 - several Northern Alliance leaders and their bodyguards greeted him at an airport. As Karzai walked across the tarmac alone, a stunned Tajik warlord asked where all his men were. Karzai, responded, 'Why, General, you are my men. All of you who are Afghans are my men.'"

That meeting would sound familiar to Ahmed Rashid, author of "The Mess in Afghanistan", who wrote in the New York Review of Books: "At the airport to receive [Karzai] was the warlord General Mohammad Fahim, a Tajik from the Panjshir Valley .... As the two men shook hands on the tarmac, Fahim looked confused. 'Where are your men?' he asked. Karzai turned to him in his disarmingly gentle manner of speaking. 'Why General," he replied, "you are my men--all of you are Afghans and are my men.'"

Bush's lifting of the anecdote, while disappointing on a literary level, does raise the intriguing possibility that Bush actually read Rashid's article. Doubtful. It was excerpted in the Googleable free intro to his NYRB story. (Still, thinking of Bush browsing the NYRB's website almost makes it worthwhile.)

In a separate case of scene fabrication, though, Bush writes of a comment made by his rival John McCain as if it was said to him directly. "The surge gave [McCain] a chance to create distance between us, but he didn't take it. He had been a longtime advocate of more troops in Iraq, and he supported the new strategy wholeheartedly. "I cannot guarantee success," he said, "But I can guarantee failure if we don't adopt this new strategy." A dramatic and untold coming-together of longtime rivals? Well, not so much. It comes straight from a Washington Post story. McCain was talking to reporters, not to Bush.

In most instances of Bush's literary swiping, he was at least present for the scene. But the point of a memoir is that it is the author's version of events. Bush's book is a collection of other people's versions of events. But that's not what Bush promises readers. "Decision Points is based primarily on my recollections. With help from researchers, I have confirmed my account with government documents, personal interviews, news reports, and other sources, some of which remain classified," he offers. Bush, in his memoir, confesses to authorizing waterboarding, which is a war crime, so the lifting of a few passages might seem like a minor infraction. But Bush's laziness undermines the historical value of the memoir. Bush "recollects" - in a more literal sense of the term - quotes by pulling his and others verbatim from other books, calling into question what he genuinely remembers from the time and casting doubt on any conclusions he draws about what his mindset was at the time.

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In a final irony, Bush appears to draw heavily from several of Bob Woodward's books and also from Robert Draper's "Dead Certain". The Bush White House called the books' accuracy into question when they were initially published.

The similarities between the way Bush recollects his and other quotes may be a case of remarkable random chance or evidence that he and his deputies were in an almost supernatural sync. If so, he essentially shares a brain with General Tommy Franks.

Bush writes: "Tommy told the national security team that he was working to apply the same concept of a light footprint to Iraq... 'If we have multiple, highly skilled Special Operations forces identifying targets for precision-guided munitions, we will need fewer conventional grounds forces,' he said. 'That's an important lesson learned from Afghanistan.' I had a lot of concerns. ... I asked the team to keep working on the plan. 'We should remain optimistic that diplomacy and international pressure will succeed in disarming the regime,' I said at the end of the meeting. 'But we cannot allow weapons of mass destruction to fall into the hands of terrorists. I will not allow that to happen.'"

Franks, in his memoir American Soldier, writes: "'For example, if we have multiple, highly skilled Special Operations forces identifying targets for precision-guided munitions, we will need fewer conventional ground forces. That's an important lesson learned from Afghanistan.' President Bush's questions continued throughout the briefing.... Before the VTC ended, President Bush addressed us all. 'We should remain optimistic that diplomacy and international pressure will succeed in disarming the regime.' ... The President paused. 'Protecting the security of the United States is my responsibility,' he continued. 'But we cannot allow weapons of mass destruction to fall into the hands of terrorists.' He shook his head. 'I will not allow that to happen.'"

A Crown official rejected the suggestion that Bush had done anything inappropriate, suggesting that the similarities speak to its inherent accuracy. The editor of Bush's book wasn't immediately able to comment.

But if you already bought Bush's book thinking you were getting only his own thoughts, you haven't entirely wasted your money. Finding lifted passages in Bush's book is like an Easter egg hunt. Look for passages with a number of quotes back to back and then slap the passage into Google Books or plagiarism detection software you might have access to. The slideshow below shows what HuffPost has found so far. If you find any more, send the passage to ryan@huffingtonpost.com and we'll verify it and add it to the list.

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#38. To: sneakypete (#21)

ROFLMAO!

Uhhhhh,how can you graduate at the top ten percent of your class based on your grades when there are no grades other than pass and fail?

Harvard has grades. They recently moved to a LP/P/HP/S system, but even then there is a top of the class and a bottom. Back when Obama went they had an A/B/C/D/F system.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-16   11:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Badeye (#35)

Wrong again. 1st Rule of Holes is now in effect.

You should stop digging.

Yes you are,and yes you should.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   16:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Rhino (#38)

Harvard has grades.

Really? Name ONE person who attended Harvard that flunked out.

Fat Teddy doesn't count. He was booted out after being caught cheating.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   16:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#40)

Really? Name ONE person who attended Harvard that flunked out.

Fat Teddy doesn't count. He was booted out after being caught cheating.

I'm sure it is virtually impossible to flunk out. But what does that have to do with having grades or not. I'm not claiming finishing dead last at Harvard Law is an achievement, I'm claiming Magna Cum Laude is an achievement.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-16   16:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Rhino (#41)

I'm claiming Magna Cum Laude is an achievement.

I'll ask someone else; can you name one bit of proof that he graduated magna cum laude other than someone just saying he did? We know the idiot has never released his grades.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-11-16   16:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Rhino (#41)

petey is irrational when it comes to Bush.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-16   16:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: sneakypete (#40)

Name ONE person who attended Harvard that flunked out.

Edmond Joseph Gong.

About 2% of Harvard students flunk out. That may seem low, but Harvard University accepts only 7.2% of all applicants.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-16   17:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rhino (#41)

I'm sure it is virtually impossible to flunk out. But what does that have to do with having grades or not.

Huh? You agree it is virtually impossible to flunk out,and then you ask what grades have to do with it? Grades are how people are judged. Even Magna Cum Laude graduates.

Or should be. The reality is that class standing is now more of a PC popularity contest than a recognition of learning.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   17:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Badeye (#43)

petey is irrational when it comes to Bush.

We are talking about Obama, not Bush.

Getting C's at Harvard Business isn't really an accomplishment.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-16   17:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#44)

Name ONE person who attended Harvard that flunked out.

Edmond Joseph Gong.

LOL! You had to go back to the Class of 1952 to find anybody!

You may not be old enough to remember this,but prior to 1964 there was no such thing as affirmative action,quota promotions,etc,etc,etc. If you didn't do the work you flunked out. Now,name somebody that has flunked out since 1968.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   17:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Rhino (#46)

We are talking about Obama, not Bush.

Getting C's at Harvard Business isn't really an accomplishment.

At least we know he got average grades. All we know about Barry Soetoro is that his name was on the rolls.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   17:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#45)

Huh? You agree it is virtually impossible to flunk out,and then you ask what grades have to do with it? Grades are how people are judged. Even Magna Cum Laude graduates.

Just because it's impossible to get a D or an F doesn't mean it is it is easy to get an A.

Or should be. The reality is that class standing is now more of a PC popularity contest than a recognition of learning.

Law schools are graded on a curve as a rule. He beat 85% of his class. This isn't Wymens studies, it is a law school. It's competitive.

If he got a 3.0, I'd agree, nothing special. You almost can't do worse than that.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-16   17:26:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: sneakypete (#47)

LOL! You had to go back to the Class of 1952 to find anybody!

Now,name somebody that has flunked out since 1968.

You asked for one person; I named one and now you're raising the bar.

I've seen this game played before.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-16   17:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: sneakypete (#48)

At least we know he got average grades. All we know about Barry Soetoro is that his name was on the rolls.

He got a job at Sidley Austin, one of the big three chicago firms. They don't hire people with poor grades. But add that he claims it and nobody disputes it, that he was editor of law review (you need good grades to get on it), it's very likely to be true.

You can go all birther on it, but all circumstantial evidence points to it.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-16   17:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lucysmom (#50)

You asked for one person; I named one and now you're raising the bar.

I've seen this game played before.

Pete isn't wrong about it being hard to fail out of Harvard Law. But that doesn't mean it isn't super competitive. They are competing for the best jobs, and it's brutal there.

Rhino  posted on  2010-11-16   17:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#39)

Yes you are,and yes you should.

Boof's boner for Bush will never subside.

meguro  posted on  2010-11-16   20:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rhino (#49)

When I was in Navy all the Harvard guys wore fagitee white uniforms.

They were the first one's what panicked on dark nights too.

Boofer T And The Humvees  posted on  2010-11-16   21:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: no gnu taxes (#42)

We know the idiot has never released his grades.

You calling anyone else an idiot is pure hilarity.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-16   22:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rhino (#49)

Just because it's impossible to get a D or an F doesn't mean it is it is easy to get an A.

You are right. Everybody gets them. Especially minority students.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   23:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom (#50)

LOL! You had to go back to the Class of 1952 to find anybody!

Now,name somebody that has flunked out since 1968.

You asked for one person; I named one and now you're raising the bar.

I've seen this game played before.

You are the one playing the game,not me. You had to know that back in the early 50's everybody took tests and were graded,and that there was no AA back then.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   23:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Rhino (#51)

He got a job at Sidley Austin, one of the big three chicago firms. They don't hire people with poor grades.

Yeah,they do. They have a quota for minority hires,and they hired both he and the Wookie.

You can go all birther on it, but all circumstantial evidence points to it.

What the hell does his birth certificate have to do with it,other than he was committing fraud to get foreign student loan grants?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-16   23:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: sneakypete (#56)

You are right. Everybody gets them. Especially minority students.

Jealous because you were first one to flunk out of kindergarten?

meguro  posted on  2010-11-17   0:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Boofer T And The Humvees (#54)

hey were the first one's what panicked on dark nights too.

With you on board, how could you blame them?

Chuckle.

meguro  posted on  2010-11-17   0:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: meguro (#59)

Jealous because you were first one to flunk out of kindergarten?

Are you a professional idiot?

Can't you see the damage this sort of thing does to our economy and our country?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-17   4:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Boofer T And The Humvees (#54)

War, you are one sick mother. I'm not surprised you appeal to the site fruit meguro.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-11-17   5:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: sneakypete (#61)

Are you a professional idiot?

No, don't worry, you won't have competition from me.

meguro  posted on  2010-11-17   8:17:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Rhino (#46)

Getting C's at Harvard Business isn't really an accomplishment

Oh, you graduated from Harvard's Business School with a B then, right?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-17   8:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Rhino (#51)

He got a job at Sidley Austin

As a summer associate in his second year of law school.

In other words, a coffee and donuts fetcher.

It is very dubious that he graduated graduate Magna Cum Laude as nobody can seem to produce any evidence of this. He did such a poor job as Editor of the Law Review that he never produced one article ( unheard of), was not offered a clerkship with a judge ( the only Harvard law review editor who never received one) and he wasn't offered a job at a top law firm (again, every other law review editor was) so he "chose" to be a city organizer because he had no options.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-11-17   8:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: sneakypete (#61)

Are you a professional idiot?

I think too many afternoons and nights spent in bathhouses has probably caused him to acquire an STD (or several) which has rotted his brain.

Just my theory.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-11-17   9:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Rudgear, Boofer T And The Humvees (#62)

War, you are one sick mother.

You seem to be missing war a lot.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Boofer T And The Humvees ain't him.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-17   10:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: sneakypete (#57)

You had to know that back in the early 50's everybody took tests and were graded,and that there was no AA back then.

Again you're thinking AA only applies to minorities.

The women's movement fought the white rich guys AA system (aka old boy network) for the right to compete.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-17   10:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: lucysmom (#68)

Again you're thinking AA only applies to minorities.

Only because it does. Except for white women,that is. They are considered to be a minority also,for politically correct reasons,not factual ones.

AA is government enforced discrimination.

The women's movement fought the white rich guys AA system (aka old boy network) for the right to compete.

BullBarack! NOBODY fought for the right to compete. You ALL fought for unfair advantages.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-17   18:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#69)

Only because it does. Except for white women,that is. They are considered to be a minority also,for politically correct reasons,not factual ones.

“Affirmative action” means positive steps taken to increase the representation of women and minorities in areas of employment, education, and business from which they have been historically excluded.

plato.stanford.edu/entries/affirmative-action/

AA is government enforced discrimination.

I suppose it is. Of course if white men had played fair to begin with, government would never have gotten involved, and a woman would have been Speaker of the House long before Nancy Pelosi.

NOBODY fought for the right to compete. You ALL fought for unfair advantages.

Don't you think its ironic that women have headed governments in predominately Muslim countries and we in the US are still discussing whether or not we're ready for that?

Uppity Women Unite!

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-18   8:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: lucysmom (#70)

“Affirmative action” means positive steps taken to increase the representation of women and minorities in areas of employment, education, and business from which they have been historically excluded.

Another way of saying "Government mandated discrimination against white males that violates the Bill of Rights."

Of course if white men had played fair to begin with, government would never have gotten involved, and a woman would have been Speaker of the House long before Nancy Pelosi.

Wadda freaking buffoon! White men ARE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN a minority. It's only loons like you that think they wait tables instead of being Kings and Queens of the Universe because "dat ole debbil,de white mans holds me back!"

And just how goddamn old are you anyhow,that you still think life is fair? If life were fair midgets would be playing in the NBA and Bill Clinton would be in prison for rape.

It's second and third rate "thinkers" like you that things and expects government to mandate equality. ALL government can do is pass laws to mandate equality of opportunity,NOT EQUALITY OF OUTCOME.

Affirmative Action flies in the face of equality of opportunity because it purposely holds some people back in order to promote others.

NOBODY fought for the right to compete. You ALL fought for unfair advantages.

Wrong once again,you dizzy bitch. YOU and your fellow leftists are always fighting for unfair advantages.

Don't you think its ironic that women have headed governments in predominately Muslim countries and we in the US are still discussing whether or not we're ready for that?

No. Only idiots like YOU think Muslim governments are something to be admired,and only idiots like you think a woman would be a good national leader merely BECAUSE she is a woman.

AND.......,need I remind you that western WHITE countries had female leaders long before Muslim countries?

Ever heard of Catherine the Great or Queen Victoria?

Yeah,the case CAN be made that Queen Victoria was born into it,but her greatness as a national leader was no accident of birth.

And Catherine the Great not only wasn't born into it,she didn't even speak Russian until after she became Russian nobility. She pretty much did it all on her own using her own wits and abilities.

YOU,and your Dim friends don't think you NEED any stinkin' abilities and hard work,though. You think you should have it handed to you merely because you have a vagina.

Which is why you will never accomplish anything. You don't have what it takes.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-18   9:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: sneakypete (#71)

It's second and third rate "thinkers" like you that things and expects government to mandate equality. ALL government can do is pass laws to mandate equality of opportunity,NOT EQUALITY OF OUTCOME.

Yep, and that's what AA is, an opportunity.

YOU,and your Dim friends don't think you NEED any stinkin' abilities and hard work,though. You think you should have it handed to you merely because you have a vagina.

Speaking of abilities, I see you flunked psychic communication.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-11-18   10:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: lucysmom (#72)

Yep, and that's what AA is, an opportunity.

Bullshit.

Speaking of abilities, I see you flunked psychic communication.

Nope. Never took it or any other Dim courses.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-18   13:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: lucysmom (#67)

Wrong again goofy.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-24   9:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Rudgear (#62)

It satisfying to know I get to live in these idiot's heads rent free, sometimes for years (laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-24   9:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Badeye (#9)

Started reading it Saturday. Its a well written book, and not your average Presidential Biography, although it does touch on the basics in that regard.

Oh boofer...thanks for providing the baseline for your definition of "well written"...

war  posted on  2011-02-03   15:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#76)

Digging up three month old posts? Obsess much?

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-02-03   15:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Rudgear (#77)

(laughing) Ya think?

Atascadero sure has a large number of idiots (laughing my ass off)

Badeye  posted on  2011-02-08   12:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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