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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In The Water Cooler See other The Water Cooler Articles Title: Is Marco Rubio a "Natural Born Citizen"? Source: [None] URL Source: http://libertysflame.org Published: Nov 12, 2010 Author: Me Post Date: 2010-11-12 19:40:56 by Skip Intro Keywords: None Views: 72545 Comments: 74 There has been talk on other sites (hint: Goldi-Lox and LP) about the desirability of Marco Rubio running for president. Since these sites are also by and large "birther" sites, I want to know if Rubio is considered a "natural born citizen" and if so, why. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 71. #1. To: Skip Intro (#0) (Edited) If he was born in the US, and his parents had become US citizens and renounced allegiance to Cuba by the time of his birth, he's natural born. He needs to show his parents citizenship papers, and his long form birth certificate. All that's needed to prove hObama ineligible is a long form birth certificate from ANYWHERE showing that his father is Barack Obama. We already know that he was a British subject, that never became a US citizen. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-12   19:59:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: hondo68 (#1) If he was born in the US, and his parents had become US citizens and renounced allegiance to Cuba by the time of his birth, he's natural born. If he was born in the U.S., he is a citizen. PERIOD. It has nothing to do with his parents. jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-13   12:27:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: jwpegler (#29) (Edited) If he was born in the U.S., he is a citizen. Ah, but the question is NOT if he's a US citizen. To be president you've got to be "a natural born US citizen". Thus the parents enter the picture. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-13   13:24:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: hondo68 (#30) To be president you've got to be "a natural born US citizen". Thus the parents enter the picture. No. If you born in the U.S. you are a natural born citizen. PERIOD. This is one reason people so outraged about illegal immigration. Mexican women cross the border illegally, have a baby in the U.S., and that baby is a U.S. citizen. Rubio was born in Miami, Florida so he is a natural born citizen. He is eligible to run for President. jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-13   14:32:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: jwpegler (#31) (Edited) The Constitution reads "natural born citizen" for a reason. If they wanted to include all citizens they would have left out "natural born". They did not want the president to have any foreign allegiances, so no dual citizens like Obama and Rubio. (If in fact his parents had not renounced their Cuban citizenship by the time of his birth) If immigrants want their kids to be president they need to swear allegiance to the USA, before they have a child. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-13   18:06:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: hondo68 (#32) Huh??? What gives you the idea that Rubio is a dual citizen? Natural born means a person was born inside the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of ambassadors or other foreign diplomats). PERIOD. The other type of citizen is a naturalized citizen -- someone who wasn't born here, but became a citizen by choice. They cannot become President. jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-13   18:26:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: jwpegler, hondo68 (#33) Natural born means a person was born inside the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of ambassadors or other foreign diplomats). PERIOD. The other type of citizen is a naturalized citizen -- someone who wasn't born here, but became a citizen by choice. They cannot become President. Incorrect jwpegler. The 14th amendment (which today has been bastardized) was nowhere in sight when the Constitution was written by the Founders. Using modern day terminology as you have, I could claim someone born via c-section was not "natural born". You have to look at what the meaning of words were when the Constitution was written. "Gay" today means something totally different than when the Constitution was penned. Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-11-13   22:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #68. To: Wood_Chopper (#40) The 14th Amendment is part of the Constitution. PERIOD. If you don't like, try to repeal. Right now, it's the law of the land. PERIOD. jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-14   9:57:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #69. To: jwpegler, Wood_Chopper (#68) (Edited) The 14th Amendment is part of the Constitution. PERIOD As WC so correctly pointed out "natural born" is not addressed in the 14th amendment, so that amendment has NOTHING to do with Rubio or Obama's eligibility to be president. The purpose or the 14th was to grant ex-slaves citizenship, not make them natural born citizens. Your misinterpretation of the 14th to permit citizen anchor babies, is a topic for another thread. You could start a 14th amendment/anchor baby, thread for that? Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-14   10:04:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #70. To: hondo68 (#69) Right your. There are all types of citizens. Their are those that were born in hospitals and those that were born in the back of a cab. Its silly to think that those are the same. Then their are those that were born on dark Indian Ocean nights. Those are you're Bengals fans of which aint nothing natral. Boofer T And The Humvees  posted on  2010-11-14   12:46:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #71. To: Boofer T And The Humvees, A K A Stone (#70) Right your. There are all types of citizens. Their are those that were born in hospitals and those that were born in the back of a cab. Its silly to think that those are the same. Then their are those that were born on dark Indian Ocean nights. Those are you're Bengals fans of which aint nothing natral. Hello, war. Back again, misspellings and all, see. What is this? Your fourth of fifth re-tread? Rudgear  posted on  2010-11-14   13:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 71. #72. To: Rudgear (#71) (Edited) Hello, war. Back again, misspellings and all It's an inbred spandex wearing NYC cracka, so ignorance is as natural as water rolling off of a ducks back. Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-14 13:56:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #74. To: Rudgear (#71) Hello, war. Back again, misspellings and all, see. What is this? Your fourth of fifth re-tread? If anyone ever doubted his insanity, this should clear it up. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-15 11:47:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 71. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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