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BusiesT casino gambling day -- in Las Vegas Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Mitt Romney Healthcare Plan Rebuked by Tea Party Express Chairwoman Source: CBN URL Source: http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/a ... hcare-plan-rebuked-by-tea.aspx Published: Nov 12, 2010 Author: CBN Post Date: 2010-11-12 14:53:17 by go65 Keywords: None Views: 15152 Comments: 34 On this week's edition of The Brody File Show, Tea Party Express Chairwoman Amy Kremer says a Mitt Romney presidential bid will run into major trouble with the Tea Party because of the healthcare plan he put in to place as governor of Massachusetts. Watch the clip below: Transcription below: David Brody/Brody File Host: On the Massachusetts healthcare situation, you'e going to tell me that's going to fly in the Tea Party movement? Amy Kremer/Tea Party Express Chairwoman: Absolutely not. I'm being honest here. You can't get away from that, that's the thing - the days of people being able to do one thing in their state in front of a microphone, and then going to Washington and doing something else. The Internet, and 24-hour news cycles changed it all, and these people don't have short memories, they're digging up everything from the past, and they're not going to let go of the health care. VIDEO COURTESY CBN NEWS/THE BRODY FILE. IN ARTICLES, COURTESY, "On CBN's The Brody File Show." Watch the whole show here: We take a look at the future of the Tea Party movement, where conservative evangelicals fit in, and why it matters to Washington. Watch for a roundtable discussion on the Tea Party's impact with Tea Party Express director Amy Kremer, Concerned Women for America CEO Penny Nance, and Robert Jones, CEO of the Public Religion Research Institute. Also, see exclusive interviews with Sen. Jim DeMint, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, former Christian Coalition leader Ralph Reed, and GOP Rep. Mike Pence. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: All (#0) GOP Presidential front-runner Mitt Romney explains why the individual mandate is "Conservative": On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-12   14:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: go65 (#0) Yep, it's going to be the Tea Party against RINO Romney. The Tea Party needs to rally around one candidate to beat Romney in the primaries. I still stay that Romney will win the primaries and at that point, Palin will run as an independent with Tea Party backing. "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-12   14:56:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: jwpegler (#2) Yep, it's going to be the Tea Party against RINO Romney. The Tea Party needs to rally around one candidate to beat Romney in the primaries. The GOP civil war will get very interesting when Romney starts to remind folks that he was endorsed by Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh, Ingraham, etc. Limbaugh: I think now, based on the way the campaign has shaken out, that there probably is a candidate on our side who does embody all three legs of the conservative stool, and that’s Romney. The three stools or the three legs of the stool are national security/foreign policy, the social conservatives, and the fiscal conservatives. The social conservatives are the cultural people. The fiscal conservatives are the economic crowd: low taxes, smaller government, get out of the way. Of course, the foreign policy crowd is obviously what it is. I don’t think there’s anybody on our side who doesn’t care about national security, which is why I found it amazing that McCain gets the bulk of those, because the idea that Romney or Huckabee are going to punt national security? In Huckabee’s case, you might just say the things he’s saying about it represent an ignorance born of inexperience in the subject. I don’t think Huckabee has any deleterious intentions about the country. When it comes to the fiscal side, you cannot say — you just cannot say — that John McCain is interested. He’s even admitted he’s not interested in the social side. He’s not interested in the economic side. He said this, and when he has spoken up about it, he sides more often with liberal Democrats on fiscal issues than he does with his own side. That’s problematic. This is why I think — and why I have said — that the Republican Party, not conservatism, but the Republican Party is in big trouble if it is empowered and gets elected by attracting people who also hold liberal Democrat views simply because they like McCain because of his character, his honor, his prisoner of war story, and they don’t like Hillary or Obama. On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-12   15:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: jwpegler (#2) Palin won't run as a third party candidate, she knows that would almost guarantee a 2nd Owe-bama term. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-12   15:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: go65 (#3) The GOP civil war rotfl. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-12   15:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Badeye (#5) I think now, based on the way the campaign has shaken out, that there probably is a candidate on our side who does embody all three legs of the conservative stool, and that’s Romney. On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-12   15:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: go65 (#6) Is that supposed to mean something? Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-12   15:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Badeye (#7) Is that supposed to mean something? Pass the popcorn. On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-12   15:30:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: go65 (#8) Still doesn't mean a thing to me. If this is a 'civil war' in politics...wtf do we call a primary challenge to Owe-bama next year? Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-12   15:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: go65 (#0) It's ObamaromneyCare: Or even a step forward at all. But the fact is that health insurance is conceptually incoherent to begin with, while introducing profiteering into the mix simply renders policy incoherency criminal. The goal of an insurer is to collect premiums but minimize payouts. It’s in a direct conflict of interest with the health care system, whose goal is supposed to be the maximization of health. There can be different visions of what maximizing health really means, but all of them are contradicted by the corporate insurer imperative. mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-13   11:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Badeye (#9) If this is a 'civil war' in politics...wtf do we call a primary challenge to Owe-bama next year? Democratic civil war. On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-13   11:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: go65 (#0) (Edited) Paying for health care is definitely a core government function. (Much more so than the expansive notion of “contract” enforcement beloved of so-called libertarians.) By definition, a health care system which contains profiteering on the payer side* is a broken system. So by definition reform must involve purging this profit motive. Reform has to mean Single Payer. These are synonyms. mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-13   11:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: go65 (#11) wtf do we call a primary challenge to Owe-bama next year? If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve. And then VietNam came to an end. mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-13   11:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: go65 (#11) Yep...but this isn't a civil war at all. Wishful thinking on the part of the recently defeated. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-14   11:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Badeye (#4) (Edited) Palin won't run as a third party candidate Okay, so what's the difference between RINO Romney and Obama? It's been pretty clear to me for a about a year that Palin is preparing a third party run. "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-14   12:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: mcgowanjm (#12) Paying for health care is definitely a core government function. (Much more so than the expansive notion of “contract” enforcement beloved of so-called libertarians.) Providing healthcare is core government function but enforcing contracts isn't? Wow. You really are a lunatic, aren't you? Now I understand why I have such a hard time understanding your posts. You're one of those Workers World Party nut jobs, aren't you? I've read their stuff before. They write just like you do -- clueless and largely incoherent. "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-14   12:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: jwpegler (#15) Your right Palin its a given that will run as a third party candidate. Your in denial if you think otherwise. Boofer T And The Humvees  posted on  2010-11-14   12:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Badeye (#4) She wont? Oh. I thought we thought that its a give she would. I must be wrong. But I cant be. Boofer T And The Humvees  posted on  2010-11-14   12:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: jwpegler (#16) Sorry. I consalted with myself. She wont run. I wasnt wrong before. I just didnt hear myself right. Boofer T And The Humvees  posted on  2010-11-14   12:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: Badeye (#14) Yep...but this isn't a civil war at all. Wishful thinking on the part of the recently defeated. Are you just going to pretend that the mass defeat of the tea party in Senate races didn't happen? On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-14   16:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: jwpegler (#15) Okay, so what's the difference between RINO Romney and Obama? It's been pretty clear to me for a about a year that Palin is preparing a third party run. According to Limbaugh, Romney embodies all three legs of the Conservative stool, so therefore Romney = Reagan. Any further questions? On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-14   16:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: go65 (#21) (Edited) According to Limbaugh, Romney embodies all three legs of the Conservative stool, so therefore Romney = Reagan. Limbaugh made noises about supporting Buchanan against the sitting President 1992. Then Bush invited Limbaugh to sleep in Lincoln bedroom at the White House. All Limbaugh talked about over the next several weeks was the Lincoln bedroom. He never mentioned Buchanan again. This is the reason I have very little respect for Limbaugh. "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-14   18:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: jwpegler (#22) Limbaugh made noises about supporting Buchanan against the sitting President 1992. Then Bush invited Limbaugh to sleep in Lincoln bedroom at the White House. All Limbaugh talked about over the next several weeks was the Lincoln bedroom. He never mentioned Buchanan again. This is the reason I have very little respect for Limbaugh. FWIW, the big Republican donors are falling in line behind Romney, the Koch brothers have already donated $100k to his PAC. I don't see how Obama beats Romney if it's head to head in 2002, but Romney could easily be torpedoed by the tea party. Perhaps we'll see Nevada/Delaware on a national scale? On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-15   9:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: go65 (#23) (Edited) the big Republican donors are falling in line behind Romney I've been saying for two years that Romney will get the nomination in 2012. It's the way the GOP works. The only slight chance we have of stopping him is if all of the Tea Parties line up behind one candidate very early. That candidate needs to win in Iowa, come in second or third in New Hampshire, and win and South Carolina to stay in the race. If Romney gets the nomination, we will see a credible independent candidate. It will probably be Sarah Palin or maybe even Donald Trump, who has been making noises lately about running. "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-15   10:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: jwpegler (#16) Paying for health care is definitely a core government function. (Much more so than the expansive notion of “contract” enforcement beloved of so-called libertarians.) Providing healthcare is core government function but enforcing contracts isn't? 8D Target acquired, sir. LMFAO So read that again, j. Like this: If 'contract' enforcement is a Big Deal, then Core Gov't Function is a Bigger Deal. mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-15   10:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: mcgowanjm (#25) 8D Target acquired, sir. What does that mean? You are such a poor writer that I have no idea what you are talking about most of the time. I am not going to attempt to respond to you any longer. "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-15   10:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: jwpegler (#16) Now I understand why you understand so little. You need a taxonomy of scale. Like the military. A carrier sounds good until you think of the cost to replace it. Then you need go look for another weapon while you spend inordinate amounts protecting your Now Obsolete carrier. Same with Core gov't Function and 'Contract'. 8D mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-15   10:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: jwpegler (#16) Now I understand why I have such a hard time understanding your posts. You're one of those Workers World Party nut jobs, aren't you? I've read their stuff before. They write just like you do -- clueless and largely incoherent. The WWP is non functioning. Anarchy coming up on your Right, would be closer. 8D -- America 753 - the highest percentage in the world, higher than Russia at 629, and a total prison population four times China's with its fourfold higher population. Worse still, America's incarceration rate from 1880 through 1980 held steady for over 100 years. It then skyrocketed over the past 30 while crime rates stabilized or fell - a shocking indictment of a criminally unjust system, filling beds for the prison-industrial complex, around 8% in prisons-for-profit, the population comprised of two-thirds Blacks and Latinos. Three years ago, the Taliban's control over this district, Chak, and the 112,000 Pashtun farmers who live here, was restricted to the hours of darkness – although the local commander, Abdullah, vowed to me that he would soon be in full control. As I am quickly to discover, this was no idle boast. In Chak, the Karzai government has in effect given up and handed over to the Taliban. Abdullah, still in charge, even collects taxes. His men issue receipts using stolen government stationery that is headed "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan"; with commendable parsimony they simply cross out the word "Republic" and insert "Emirate", the emir in question being the Taliban's spiritual leader, Mullah Omar. The most astonishing thing about this rebel district – and for Nato leaders meeting in Lisbon this week, a deeply troubling one – is that Chak is not in war-torn Helmand or Kandahar but in Wardak province, a scant 40 miles south-west of Kabul. The US is crashing faster than the USSR and you think Bernanke has it under control. 8D mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-15   10:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: jwpegler (#26) (Edited) 8D Target acquired, sir. That you think 'Contracts' supercede Core Gov't Function. As Contracts can't exist w'o CGF's. As CGF are THE Contract between the State and it's Citizens. So You make your exact position known. That Corporations can do the job of Gov't and Better. Target acquired, sir. means you are exposed as to your BK position per corporations. mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-15   10:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: jwpegler (#15) Okay, so what's the difference between RINO Romney and Obama? Beyond experience in the private sector and public sector? (laughing) Oh gee, not much...(yes, thats sarcasm). McCain and Owe-bama are closer than Romney/Owe-bama in my view. Much closer. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-15   11:30:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: go65 (#20) Yep...but this isn't a civil war at all. Wishful thinking on the part of the recently defeated. Are you just going to pretend that the mass defeat of the tea party in Senate races didn't happen? Mass defeat? Brother, thats what happened to the DEMOCRATIC PARTY in 680 races nationwide the first Tueday of this month. Its hilarious you want to 'go there' two weeks later. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-15   11:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: go65 (#20) (Edited) Are you just going to pretend that the mass defeat of the tea party in Senate races didn't happen? Yes. Are you just going to pretend that the Banksters know what they're doing? Yes. That America is still solvent? Yes. What empowers these people is our love of money. The last vestige of sanity an American seems to be able to cling on to is in his ability to count his money. While he still has some money, he adds up his “net worth,” and the higher the number, the better he feels about himself. Once all he has left is debt, he adds up the money he doesn't have, and the more “credit” he has, the better he feels about himself, because of all the things he can still “afford.” And once he finally defaults on his loans and no longer has any credit, it is as if, in his own minds, he ceases to exist. “I lost everything,” he is apt to say, as if his earthly existence amounted to a number written on a piece of paper. A population that is in thrall to arbitrary numbers written on bits of paper is what makes it possible for the financial incompetents to remain undetected, practicing their sort of low-grade magic. It is as if everyone is blindly in love with them and thus unable to see their faults. But this spell can and will be broken, because the rest of the world is now quite ill-disposed to tolerating any more of this financial nonsense. A day will arrive when America's sages and high priests of finance, together with their wealthy clients, will suddenly turn out to be, for all to see, what they have been all along: clueless incompetents unsuitable for any task that is worth doing. Posted by kollapsnik mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-15   11:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Badeye (#31) Mass defeat? Angle, Miller, O'Donnell, Buck, lose, Rand Paul wins. That's pretty bad. On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending. go65  posted on  2010-11-15   15:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: go65 (#33) Angle, Miller, O'Donnell, Buck, lose, Rand Paul wins. That's pretty bad. I don't see it as 'bad' at all. I'm positively ECSTATIC that a grass roots movement has had this kind of impact in their FIRST ELECTION since inception. They WON at ALL LEVELS of elective offices, GO. And they damn sure have the undivided attention of every elected official, one way or the other after the asskicking that was November 2nd, 2010. They'll learn from the relatively few losses, and have an even larger impact in 2012. They aren't going away...no matter who wishes they would. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit. Badeye  posted on  2010-11-15   15:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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