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Title: LaHood to GOP governors: No trains, no money
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/106988093.html
Published: Nov 11, 2010
Author: Joan Lowy
Post Date: 2010-11-11 09:45:46 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 19105
Comments: 38

WASHINGTON - The Obama administration has a message for Republican governors who campaigned against the president's high-speed rail program: Build the trains or give back the money.

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood on Tuesday rejected a request from Gov.-elect John Kasich in Ohio to use the $400 million in federal funds pledged to that state's train project on other projects like road construction or freight lines.

"I would like high-speed rail to be part of Ohio's future," LaHood wrote. But if the state won't go forward, it's necessary "to wind down Ohio's involvement in the project so that we do not waste taxpayers' money," he said.

A day earlier LaHood sent the same message to Wisconsin officials about the $810 million in rail money pledged to that state. Wisconsin Gov.-elect Scott Walker campaigned against the Madison-to- Milwaukee line, including creating a website opposed to the project.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, which allocated an initial $8 billion for a high-speed rail program, doesn't allow the money to be spend for other purposes, said Ross Capon, executive director of the National Association of Railroad Passengers.

The Republican governor-elects have criticized the high-speed rail program as unaffordable in tough economic times. Both states would have to invest considerable dollars in the projects in addition to federal aid. Walker on Tuesday urged the federal government to give up on high-speed rail and instead use the money to repair roads and bridges he said were "literally crumbling."

Kasich has said that the top speed of 79 miles per hour on the proposed Ohio project is too slow and he has questioned whether enough people will ride it. About 6 million people live along the Cleveland to Cincinnati corridor, making it one of the most heavily populated corridors without rail service in the Midwest — but a well-used interstate, I-71, lies along the same route.

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#3. To: go65 (#0) (Edited)

The left has had a train fetish since one of their 20th century heroes -- Benito Mussolini -- allegedly "made the trains run on time".

These people never change.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-11   10:29:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler, go65 (#3)

The left has had a train fetish since one of their 20th century heroes -- Benito Mussolini -- allegedly "made the trains run on time".

These people never change.

And those leftist Japanese have had a high speed bullet train since the 1960's.

Go figure.

meguro  posted on  2010-11-11   11:17:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: meguro (#9) (Edited)

And those leftist Japanese have had a high speed bullet train since the 1960's.

Go figure.

Yes, and Japan's commuter rail and high speed rail are owned by 16 major private companies as well as some smaller companies and a few public-private partnerships. This is not what the left has in mind in the U.S. They want the government to own and control passenger rail.

The fact is that we have a very physical environment than Japan. They cram 130 million people into area smaller than Montana. 25% of those people live in metro Tokyo. Sure, they can have high speed rail between cities because the distance between their cities isn't that great. Sure they can have commuter rail within the cities because most people live in very densely populated cities in high rise apartments, not in single family suburban homes like the U.S.

I've been to Japan 20+ times. You can't compare the two at all. You say you live in Japan, so you should know this.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-11   11:40:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#11) (Edited)

This is not what the left has in mind in the U.S. They want the government to own and control passenger rail.

You really ought to read up a bit more on the details of the various high speed rail projects. You are way off here.

go65  posted on  2010-11-11   11:51:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#12) (Edited)

Federal Railroad Administration "vision" for high speed rail in the U.S.

This is a government plan and it's heavily targeted at the northeast.

Why do we need a Buffalo-Albany high speed rail? Does anyone still live in Buffalo? Why wouldn't you hook up Dallas and Houston? Where is the High Tech Corridor rail between Seattle and Silicon Valley (Alaska Airlines runs one flight an hour between the two locations, so there diffidently is a need).

This is a typical government plan, driven by politics, not need. That's why it will fail.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-11   12:05:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#14)

This is a government plan and it's heavily targeted at the northeast.

Which makes sense

Why do we need a Buffalo-Albany high speed rail? Does anyone still live in Buffalo? Why wouldn't you hook up Dallas and Houston? Where is the High Tech Corridor rail between Seattle and Silicon Valley (Alaska Airlines runs one flight an hour between the two locations, so there diffidently is a need).

Good question. Outside of the NE corridor and perhaps extending it down to Miami and west to Chicago, i'm not sure there are other places in the U.S. that justify the investment.

go65  posted on  2010-11-11   12:30:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#15)

So I'm suppose to pay for people to ride between Buffalo and Albany? Why? How does that benefit me, my family, my business and my community? It doesn't.

It's ridiculous.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-11   13:00:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: jwpegler (#18)

So I'm suppose to pay for people to ride between Buffalo and Albany? Why? How does that benefit me, my family, my business and my community? It doesn't.

Couldn't you say the same thing about paying so that people can fly or drive between Buffalo and Albany?

Why do folks expect rail to be self-sufficient but see no problem with using tax dollars to subsidize air and roads?

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