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Title: Pentagon Can't Explain 'Missile' Off California Coast
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2010-11-09-11-36-15
Published: Nov 9, 2010
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2010-11-09 11:49:31 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 53028
Comments: 94

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Pentagon says it's trying to figure out whether a missile was launched off the coast of southern California and who might have launched it.

Spokesmen for the Navy, Air Force, Defense Department and North American Aerospace Defense Command say they are looking into a video posted on the website of Southern California television station KFMB.

The video appears to show a rocket or some other object shooting up into the sky and leaving a large contrail over the Pacific Ocean.

Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said Tuesday that officials can't confirm that there was a launch and if there was, by whom. He says officials are talking to the Air Force, Navy and NORAD as well as civilian authorities who control and monitor air space.

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#48. To: Brian S (#0)

All they can do is play dumb,even though you can bet your bippy they know exactly who fired it and what it was.

With all the billions we spend on defense,how can the USN admit that a NK or Chinese sub got close enough to our coast to fire off a missile without us discovering them first?

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-10   0:39:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#48)

Now that we know it was launched from offshore, I'm more convinced that it could be a bunch of college students or recent grads.

The ONE area where Obama has been more "free market" than his predecessors is in space. After the shuttle is done in a few weeks, the U.S. will have virtually no launch capabilities. Maybe Obama is not "free-market", he just wants us to turn our launch capability over to the Russians and Chinese.

I'll bet that there are entrepreneurs out there, right now, plotting to make money in space. Oh, the horror... the horror...

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-10   0:50:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: jwpegler (#49)

Now that we know it was launched from offshore, I'm more convinced that it could be a bunch of college students or recent grads.

The fact that it is estimated it was fired from 35 miles off shore convinces me that it was not students,but either the NK or the Chinese.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-10   0:55:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: sneakypete (#50)

35 miles off shore

If that's true then it is certainly the North Koreans. The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-11-10   1:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: jwpegler (#51)

The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.

Except their Sphere of Influence just widened to the Entire Pacific. LMFAO

I said yesterday to watch the Chinese RAISE % Rates.

That's a DEATH blow to US Financial Hegemony.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-10   7:00:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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parkmcgraw wrote: As a point of conversation, I was briefly outside yesterday, looking at the sky and cloud cover not much before this event occurred, noticing Jupiter and that the aircraft over head in the sky at the time were not producing contrails of any lasting nature or great size.

As an avid observer of all things and former US Navy weapon systems technician and one that stayed close to the defense sector have witnessed firsthand Terrier, Minotaur, Atlas, Delta, Titan and other launches including last Friday's launch of the Delta II from Vandenberg and from what I can determine from the news video looks very much like a rocket or missile launch.

The news video, clearly showing where the launch vehicle lifted from the ocean surface much like a sea launch ICBM. After further examination of the video, can identify what looks to be a momentary vertical accent phase, normal to the ocean surface followed by a "role maneuver", suggesting a vertical launch orientation of the vehicle and not horizontal such as from a torpedo tube for a sub launched Tomahawk missile. Thus, producing a short and clean vertical accent, void of a departure angle relative to the water surface.

The vehicle, as seen in the video, leaves little doubt that the vehicle is travelling at velocities much greater than what a non hypersonic or supper sonic aircraft is capable of achieving. This is deduced from the size to the "gilt" of light, at minimum intensity, from what appears to be the rear of the craft relative to the size of the plum immediately aft of the craft.

Judging from the orientation of the exhaust plum, relative to the direction of the setting sun and position of shadow line along the length of the plume does not suggest that this light from the rear of the vehicle is a reflection from the sun. Instead, that this light is the product of a very energetic chemical reaction. The width of the plume, relative to the length of the plumes path and apparent velocity of the vehicle strongly suggest that the combustion rate is magnitudes greater than that of a jet aircraft.

Presuming no foreign entity is responsible for this event, looks similar to an SLICBM. But, should this event not be precipitated by the US Navy or some other US armed service, then this apparent missile launch does have me very concerned.

My background to make such statements and formulated opinions comes from my time as a former US Navy weapons technician and operator. A person that in the past, participated in exo atmospheric experiment on so called Star Wars experiments including being on VOX during missions involving the Space Shuttle, Barium release experiments, to having flown jet and prop aircraft, having found over 400 astronomical objects including all Messier objects by the time I was 18, taken hundreds of astronomical and atmospheric photos, some published in books and magazines and today a laser physicist and author of an IRAD study titled US Naval Weapons Analysis for Northrop Grumman, Directed Energy Systems. 11/9/2010 10:03:59 PM Recommended (8)

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-10 07:31:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mcgowanjm (#54)

The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.

Except their Sphere of Influence just widened to the Entire Pacific. LMFAO

Not to mention the fact they are getting tired of us demanding their raise the value of their money to help us balance our budget.

Or as far as that goes,they may want to send a message to the whole 1st World that they will NOT be bullied into following UN environmental and labor laws. If they can tug Uncle Sam's beard,what chance does Europe,Central America,South America,Africa,and Asia have against them?

sneakypete  posted on  2010-11-10 08:28:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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