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Title: Pentagon Can't Explain 'Missile' Off California Coast
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URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2010-11-09-11-36-15
Published: Nov 9, 2010
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2010-11-09 11:49:31 by Brian S
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Pentagon says it's trying to figure out whether a missile was launched off the coast of southern California and who might have launched it. Spokesmen for the Navy, Air Force, Defense Department and North American Aerospace Defense Command say they are looking into a video posted on the website of Southern California television station KFMB. The video appears to show a rocket or some other object shooting up into the sky and leaving a large contrail over the Pacific Ocean. Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said Tuesday that officials can't confirm that there was a launch and if there was, by whom. He says officials are talking to the Air Force, Navy and NORAD as well as civilian authorities who control and monitor air space.
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#28. To: WhiteSands (#23)
rotflmao. Apparently.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
btw, when you put a space between 'bad' and 'eye' I don't see it when I do a ping search.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
One day he hopes to have ten dollars. He's a real American success story.
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And you are practicing medicine with no license. The simple fact is in spite of your laughable attempt to bait and hound, you are entertaining me a great deal. The fact is, if you compared my writing aptitude with that of most people in the general public, I do better than the average. We have become a functionally illiterate society; one that learns how to read and write, and does it so little, that when they have to open a Microsoft Word window, they are lost without the spell and grammar check. So forgive me if I'm not the least bit bothered by your windmill jousting. If that is all you have to complain about concerning me, you protest too much. And this game makes you look bad, not me.
Well malpeepers, what does that matter, as long as I get the point across who you are? I also have free handed Sneaky Pete various ways, remembered he does it 'sneakypete' and let it go without correcting it. Why? because people know whom I speak of, and I don't micromanage for every characteristic of people's nicks. ;-D
U.S. out of Cascadia. I'm Cascadian, get it right. ;-D
You inferred I was 'projecting,' in the post before that, so I projected the ball back into your court. ;-D
You are Oompa, Loompaian.
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And you are no good at being a master baiter. ;-D
You are slowing down, keep up the pace.
You too; I mean, you aren't about to let me get the last word in are you?
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Unlike you- little Smurf Bitch, I post articles here. I'd better correct the screen name or you will not see the post.
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LOL. You're an optimist, I see. From your posts on this thread alone, it's clear that you're uniquely unqualified to write, or think. You're a regular "Black Knight" kind of guy... "Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left! Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
Just watched the video for the first time and it is a real stretch to try to make this into a plane/contrails illusion. Stay tuned...
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
China, Bitchez!!!! That the Pentagon says we haven't a clue, means signals are being sent. And the BigBoys in Every Major Capitol understand. BTW. The US can't be shooting missiles in Air Corridors w/o warning. See TWA Flt 800 for details on how that works out.
In your case they are 100% correct, mcclown.
here's another argument for the contrail explanation. including photos from similar events uncinus.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/4/#more-4 He suggests it was US Aiways flight 808 from Hawaii to Phoenix. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808
My only thought on the contrail explanation is that from the footage I've seen, there are no other 'contrails' visable in the area. We are under the western approach flight path to DTW and witness many. Around here, when there is one, this many. Just saying and not digging real deep but am staying awake to hear the C2C take on the situation.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
All they can do is play dumb,even though you can bet your bippy they know exactly who fired it and what it was. With all the billions we spend on defense,how can the USN admit that a NK or Chinese sub got close enough to our coast to fire off a missile without us discovering them first?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Now that we know it was launched from offshore, I'm more convinced that it could be a bunch of college students or recent grads. The ONE area where Obama has been more "free market" than his predecessors is in space. After the shuttle is done in a few weeks, the U.S. will have virtually no launch capabilities. Maybe Obama is not "free-market", he just wants us to turn our launch capability over to the Russians and Chinese. I'll bet that there are entrepreneurs out there, right now, plotting to make money in space. Oh, the horror... the horror...
The fact that it is estimated it was fired from 35 miles off shore convinces me that it was not students,but either the NK or the Chinese.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
If that's true then it is certainly the North Koreans. The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.
Unbelievable Bizarre. Russia-THE missile experts: Ballistic Missile fired from Submarine. Occam's Razor. And like I said yesterday, watch for China to raise % rates: Search Results 1. News for China reserve ratio 50 basis points 2. Moneycontrol.com PBOC: To Raise Reserve Requirement Ratio 50 BPs Tuesday46; - 29 minutes ago BEIJING (Dow Jones)--China's central bank said Wednesday it will raise banks' reserve requirement ratio by 50 basis points from Tuesday, the fourth such ... Wall Street Journal - 246 related articles 3. China Said to Order Some Banks to Raise Reserve Ratio by 50 Basis ... Nov 10, 2010 ... China told some lenders, including Bank of Communications Co. , to increase their reserve ratios by half a percentage point, a person with ... www.bloomberg.com/.../chi...o-by-50-basis-points.html That was a CHINESE Missile from a Chinese Sub.
Unbelievable Bizarre. Russia-THE missile experts: Ballistic Missile fired from Submarine. Occam's Razor. And like I said yesterday, watch for China to raise % rates: Search Results 1. News for China reserve ratio 50 basis points 2. Moneycontrol.com PBOC: To Raise Reserve Requirement Ratio 50 BPs Tuesday46; - 29 minutes ago BEIJING (Dow Jones)--China's central bank said Wednesday it will raise banks' reserve requirement ratio by 50 basis points from Tuesday, the fourth such ... Wall Street Journal - 246 related articles 3. China Said to Order Some Banks to Raise Reserve Ratio by 50 Basis ... Nov 10, 2010 ... China told some lenders, including Bank of Communications Co. , to increase their reserve ratios by half a percentage point, a person with ... www.bloomberg.com/.../chi...o-by-50-basis-points.html That was a CHINESE Missile from a Chinese Sub.
Except their Sphere of Influence just widened to the Entire Pacific. LMFAO I said yesterday to watch the Chinese RAISE % Rates. That's a DEATH blow to US Financial Hegemony.
parkmcgraw wrote: As a point of conversation, I was briefly outside yesterday, looking at the sky and cloud cover not much before this event occurred, noticing Jupiter and that the aircraft over head in the sky at the time were not producing contrails of any lasting nature or great size. As an avid observer of all things and former US Navy weapon systems technician and one that stayed close to the defense sector have witnessed firsthand Terrier, Minotaur, Atlas, Delta, Titan and other launches including last Friday's launch of the Delta II from Vandenberg and from what I can determine from the news video looks very much like a rocket or missile launch. The news video, clearly showing where the launch vehicle lifted from the ocean surface much like a sea launch ICBM. After further examination of the video, can identify what looks to be a momentary vertical accent phase, normal to the ocean surface followed by a "role maneuver", suggesting a vertical launch orientation of the vehicle and not horizontal such as from a torpedo tube for a sub launched Tomahawk missile. Thus, producing a short and clean vertical accent, void of a departure angle relative to the water surface. The vehicle, as seen in the video, leaves little doubt that the vehicle is travelling at velocities much greater than what a non hypersonic or supper sonic aircraft is capable of achieving. This is deduced from the size to the "gilt" of light, at minimum intensity, from what appears to be the rear of the craft relative to the size of the plum immediately aft of the craft. Judging from the orientation of the exhaust plum, relative to the direction of the setting sun and position of shadow line along the length of the plume does not suggest that this light from the rear of the vehicle is a reflection from the sun. Instead, that this light is the product of a very energetic chemical reaction. The width of the plume, relative to the length of the plumes path and apparent velocity of the vehicle strongly suggest that the combustion rate is magnitudes greater than that of a jet aircraft. Presuming no foreign entity is responsible for this event, looks similar to an SLICBM. But, should this event not be precipitated by the US Navy or some other US armed service, then this apparent missile launch does have me very concerned. My background to make such statements and formulated opinions comes from my time as a former US Navy weapons technician and operator. A person that in the past, participated in exo atmospheric experiment on so called Star Wars experiments including being on VOX during missions involving the Space Shuttle, Barium release experiments, to having flown jet and prop aircraft, having found over 400 astronomical objects including all Messier objects by the time I was 18, taken hundreds of astronomical and atmospheric photos, some published in books and magazines and today a laser physicist and author of an IRAD study titled US Naval Weapons Analysis for Northrop Grumman, Directed Energy Systems. 11/9/2010 10:03:59 PM Recommended (8)
My first thought was the. NK's because they have a total freaking loon for a leader,but since he hasn't claimed credit for it,and you KNOW that egotistical bastard would brag about it,I am now leaning towards the Chinese. They are MUCH more subtle and sophisticated than the NK's,and they ARE capable of doing something like this to send a "insiders message" to our government while taking care to not alarm the public. THEY understand that an enraged public can put pressure on US politicians and back them into a corner where they have to make a military and political public response. There could be several reasons for the Chinese to do this,ranging from the Spratley Inslands to the US Pacific Fleet. China has wanted the US Navy out of Asia so they could be the dominant sea power,and this could be a message that we ain't the only ones that can wreck havoc in the homeland if push comes to shove. At any rate,it is a private message between governments,and that pretty much rules out the NK's. Remember all the worldwide press they went after to publicize the missile they fired in the direction of Japan? Not one chance in hell of them passing up on a opportunity to do the same if they fired a missile near the shores of America.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
That's what I think,too. That sort of thing "fits" the Chinese mindset,not the Russians.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Except their Sphere of Influence just widened to the Entire Pacific. LMFAO Not to mention the fact they are getting tired of us demanding their raise the value of their money to help us balance our budget. Or as far as that goes,they may want to send a message to the whole 1st World that they will NOT be bullied into following UN environmental and labor laws. If they can tug Uncle Sam's beard,what chance does Europe,Central America,South America,Africa,and Asia have against them?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
According to officials, Bashir complaining that the US was ignoring India’s human rights issues in Kashmir and warned that adding India to the Security Council would have serious ramnifications in the region. Britain, Russia and France have all expressed support for India taking a permanent seat, but China, a long-time ally of Pakistan, has appeared reluctant to make any such commitment. Pakistan has designs on securing its own seat in the UN Security Council, but has since come out against the expansion, insisting permanent members wield disproportionate power."
The NK's range, IMHO, would be 35 miles off Yokohama Harbour at Sunrise. ;} And, again IMHO, China considers the Bottom 99% of US to be serfs and future serfs. Their message to the Bottom 99% would be 'we own you, work harder'. ;}
You have a point? Where?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You were.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
China sees India as their major competitor as Asia's Super Power.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
If your ego requires such, sure.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Why not? Our own political leadership thinks the same thing,so who can blame them?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
"It’s a solid propellant missile," he told the Times. "You can tell from the efflux [smoke]." Richardson said it could have been a ballistic missile launched from a submarine or an interceptor, the defensive anti-missile weapon used by Navy surface ships.
The wife of a well known author asked her husband who couldn't spell, punctuate, or write a grammatically correct sentence if he was embarrassed; he answered, "No, those things are for amateurs to worry about. I'm a professional".
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
They are saying what they are ordered to say. One thing you can be sure of. It wasn't a "OOOPS!" moment from the US Navy. There would be way too many people involved in the firing for them to ever be able to cover something like that up.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
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#29. To: WhiteSands (#23)
#30. To: Badeye, Smurf Bitch (#28)
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#31. To: WhiteSands (#22)
"That's an indication of the head trauma you suffered."
#32. To: Badeye (#29)
#33. To: WhiteSands (#30)
"He's a real American success story."
#34. To: Badeye (#27)
"A few can't multi task I suppose..maybe your one of them? Or just unemployed?"
#35. To: Smurf Bitch (#33)
I'm Cascadian
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#36. To: Badeye, Smurf Bitch (#32)
."..as long as I get the point across who you are? "
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#37. To: WhiteSands (#35)
#38. To: WhiteSands (#36)
#39. To: Badeye (#29)
#40. To: Smurf Bithc (#38)
You are slowing down, keep up the pace.
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#41. To: Smurf Bitch (#40)
You are slowing down, keep up the pace.
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#42. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
The fact is, if you compared my writing aptitude with that of most people in the general public, I do better than the average.
King Arthur, Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
#43. To: go65 (#7)
#44. To: Brian S, All (#0)
#45. To: mcgowanjm (#44)
the Pentagon says we haven't a clue,
#46. To: mcgowanjm, brian S, ferret mike (#44)
(Edited)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#47. To: go65 (#46)
#48. To: Brian S (#0)
#49. To: sneakypete (#48)
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#50. To: jwpegler (#49)
Now that we know it was launched from offshore, I'm more convinced that it could be a bunch of college students or recent grads.
#51. To: sneakypete (#50)
35 miles off shore
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#52. To: go65, All (#46)
#53. To: jwpegler, All (#51)
#54. To: jwpegler (#51)
The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.
#55. To: All (#54)
#56. To: jwpegler (#51)
If that's true then it is certainly the North Koreans. The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.
#57. To: mcgowanjm (#52)
That was a CHINESE Missile from a Chinese Sub.
#58. To: mcgowanjm (#54)
The Chinese are not going to do this. They have nothing to gain.
#59. To: sneakypete (#58)
Or as far as that goes,they may want to send a message to the whole 1st World that they will NOT be bullied into following UN...
#60. To: sneakypete (#56)
THEY understand that an enraged public can put pressure on US politicians and back them into a corner where they have to make a military and political public response.
#61. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
#63. To: mcgowanjm (#59)
Britain, Russia and France have all expressed support for India taking a permanent seat, but China, a long-time ally of Pakistan, has appeared reluctant to make any such commitment.
#64. To: Ferret Mike (#39)
#65. To: mcgowanjm (#60)
China considers the Bottom 99% of US to be serfs and future serfs.
#66. To: sneakypete, mcgowanjm (#65)
But Doug Richardson, the editor of Jane’s Missiles and Rockets, examined the video for the Times of London and said he was left with little doubt.
#67. To: Ferret Mike, WhiteSands (#31)
#68. To: Fred Mertz (#66)
Military Says Missile-Like Object Wasn't Missile
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