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Title: Juan Williams Sees Rove-vs.-Palin ‘Civil War’ Inside GOP
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/ ... sees-rove-palin-gop-civil-war/
Published: Nov 7, 2010
Author: David Edwards
Post Date: 2010-11-07 13:41:56 by Brian S
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The midterm elections brought big wins for the Republicans but they also exposed fractures within the party. Fox News' Juan Williams described Sunday what he called a "civil war" between the establishment Republicans and the tea party. "I think there is a civil war of sorts going on," Williams said. "We don't talk about it much -- between the Republican establishment and tea party people. It's Sarah Palin [vs.] Karl Rove if you want to personify it." In no place were the divisions as obvious during the mid-term elections as they were with opinions on Christine O'Donnell, the GOP's Senate candidate in Delaware. Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin endorsed O'Donnell during the primaries, which may have put the candidate over the top in winning the Republican endorsement. On the night that she won her primary victory, Rove told Fox News' Sean Hannity that O'Donnell was known for saying "nutty things." "This is not a race we're going to be able to win," Rove added. Following O'Donnell's loss in the general election, Rove said, "Look, it gave me no pleasure to say she was unlikely to win." "This again proves a lesson. This is a candidate right on the issues, but had mishandled a series of questions raised by the press early on in the race about her background and previous statements." Palin called out Rove by name after O'Donnell's loss. "I look forward to Karl Rove and others looking at...reporting that exit polls are showing that Mike Castle would have even lost to Chris Coons," she said on Fox News. "There was never any guarantee that a hard-core conservative would win in a deep blue state like Delaware." But Rove's viewpoint may be representative of other establishment Republicans who weren't fond of O'Donnell. "I think Delaware was a missed opportunity to have a really good United States senator, Mike Castle, and that's why I endorsed him in the primary," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said on NBC Sunday. Rove and Palin also clashed over the former governor's new reality show. Rove told the Telegraph that he failed to see how a reality show helped Palin make a serious run at the presidency in 2012. "There are high standards that the American people have for [the presidency] and they require a certain level of gravitas, and they want to look at the candidate and say 'that candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world,'" he said. The next week, Palin compared herself to another entertainer, President Ronald Reagan, to defend her new show. "Those standards have to be high for someone who would ever want to run for president like, um, wasn't Ronald Reagan an actor? Wasn't he in Bedtime for Bonzo, bozo or something? Ronald Reagan was an actor," she said. "Now look. I'm not in a reality show. I have eight episodes documenting Alaska's resources, what it is that we can contribute to the rest of US to economically and physically secure our union, and my family comes along for the ride because I am family, family is us, and my family comes along on the ride to document these eight episodes for The Learning Channel. ... So Karl is wrong right there in calling it a reality show," she said. This video is from Fox's Fox News Sunday, broadcast Nov. 7, 2010.
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#80. To: jwpegler (#68)
This was nothing more than her paying him back for propelling her to the national stage. She paid him back by pulling in enough votes that he didn't lose the election by Biblical proportions. Most of the people I know that voted for him ONLY voted for him because she was his running mate. You don't stab someone in the back who helped your career. He did. He was stabbing her in the back within days of the election being over.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You ought to compare polling numbers before and after he selected her. He ended up doing worse with her then he was doing without her, she was a negative draw on his campaign.
He did not say this, sneaky. You are right. He merely smiled and said "No." when Leno asked him if Palin were qualified to be a presidential front runner and maybe president in 2012.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And Leno asked a follow up question and named Palin by name.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You are giving Murron a nervous breakdown because she's not getting this message in the exact wording she wants. And she's refusing the peace offering of a Midol tablet. She's making all of us who know you laugh ourselves silly by calling you a liar. Thanks for sparking the unintended and very amusing sideshow.
If she were as politically aware as the Palinites claim she is she would BRAG about that.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Exactly.
Yeah,I know that is the mantra of the neo-cons and their brothers of the left,but it just ain't so no matter how much the press tried to push it. The game was set up for McLunatic to lose to the Chocolate Messiah,and the ruling elite were happy and had things going their way. They even approved of him picking the "nobody from nowhere" as a running mate because she was unknown and inexperienced in national politics. Then she started hitting the ball out of the ballpark when attacking Barry Soetoro,and the ticket she was on was starting to gain traction. Actually I "spoke" (wrote?) too soon. McLunatic started stabbing her in the back BEFORE the election was over. EVERY time she would give a speech and slam Barry over his his incompetence and stupidity,McLunatic would jump in front of a microphone and apologize for her. I lost every speck of respect I had for her when she started defending that treasonous bastard after the election was over,and even supported his Senate re-election campaign. There just ain't no excuse for that. Even IF you buy the "loyalty to the man who put her on the map" nonsense,you are applauding somebody that puts loyalty to self ahead of loyalty to the country and the Constitution. As I wrote earlier,there just ain't no excuse for that.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
It was Stone that called me a liar,not her.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
You have a link to that? To McCain telling the entire world he made a horrific choice, especialy given his advanced age and well documented medical ailments?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
sneaky, Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Its not 'mantra' its documented fact. Look it up for yourself.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You are willfully stupid, aren't you?
And then a huge fall-off as people got to know her. See favorability ratings below: And from an NBC/WSJ poll on October 28th: Sorry, but i don't play the insult game. Have a nice day.
Either McCain said it, or he didn't, which is it? No one asked you what you 'thought mccain said', I'm calling both of you Bald Faced Liars! http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=14765&Disp=95#C94 Here is what I was talking about quoted with the thread/post URL. In any event, this is a usual tempest in a teapot from her; it's nothing to fret over.
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. And then a huge fall-off as people got to know her. See favorability ratings below: ...which has nothing to do with the conversation sneaky and I are having.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So I am supposed to go find a video that doesn't exist. Don't be stupid. McCain said he isn't supporting anyone at the moment. You don't know what I saw.
Yopu are so FOS your eyes are brown. What caused McCain's poll numbers to fall? The most decisive event in this campaign wasn't anything either of the candidates said at their respective conventions or in any of the debates. It wasn't a sound bite from a speech or interview, or a memorable assertion in a television commercial or e-mail attachment. The turning point in this election didn't happen on the campaign trail but rather on Wall Street. In the last week of September, the race was essentially tied. Then Wall Street collapsed -- and it collapsed right on top of John McCain.
You play the disinformationist game. I called you on it.
Yeah,that's what I wrote.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Thanks. I hadn't seen that. It's amazing the lengths some people who call themselves conservatives will go to in order to defend the undefendable,ain't it?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Where did I say he was supporting anybody?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And you were the guy with a big bump in his pants for Palin at first. ROTFL!
At least he's seen the light. Give the old man a break.
That racist prick? Never.
Not especially,although I would have jumped her bones if I had a chance. She is a good-looking woman,and I like women. I was VERY pro-Palin politically at first,though. I even made allowances and excuses for her at first. Then she quit the governor's job to cash in on her fame. I didn't like that,but I still leaned towards supporting her possible candidacy in 2012. Then she came out supporting McLunatic,and that was just inexcusable.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Temper,temper,Princess.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You'd probably jump anything with a pulse at this stage of your life.
Nope. For one thing,it has to be a woman and the woman has to be either physically or intellectually attractive to me. A woman that is pretty and has a good and curious mind hits it out of the ballpark.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Absolutely not. I've described helping good people with their careers.
Coming from a filthy, gender confused, perverted sodomite, that's hilarious...in a sick sort of way!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Yeah,that's what I wrote. But it seems to be exactly opposite of what you suggested.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Only to you.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You must be filtering then.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
yes, huge bump, until she opened her mouth.
As usual,you have it backwards. Every time she opened her mouth,McLunatic's ratings went up. Until the media bitched and he jumped in front of a microphone to apologize for what she had said.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
go back and watch her interview with Katie Couric.
That bitch set her up. What would you say if someone asked you what newspapers and magazines you read, huh?
Consumer Reports. The new issue came in today's mail.
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#81. To: sneakypete (#80)
She paid him back by pulling in enough votes that he didn't lose the election by Biblical proportions. Most of the people I know that voted for him ONLY voted for him because she was his running mate.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#82. To: Badeye (#71)
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show.
#83. To: go65 (#73)
In case anyone missed his conspicuous omission of Palin, McCain then added, "And I've left out somebody's name, and I'm gonna hear about it."
#84. To: sneakypete (#80)
#85. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
McCain has made it plain the wool she pulled over his eyes is gone. He does not think her qualified or presidential timber.
#86. To: sneakypete (#85)
If she were as politically aware as the Palinites claim she is she would BRAG about that.
#87. To: go65 (#81)
You ought to compare polling numbers before and after he selected her. He ended up doing worse with her then he was doing without her, she was a negative draw on his campaign.
#88. To: Ferret Mike, AKA Stone, Murron (#84)
She's making all of us who know you laugh ourselves silly by calling you a liar.
#89. To: sneakypete (#54)
#90. To: sneakypete (#82)
You are right. He merely smiled and said "No." when Leno asked him if Palin were qualified to be a presidential front runner and maybe president in 2012.
#91. To: sneakypete (#87)
Yeah,I know that is the mantra of the neo-cons and their brothers of the left,but it just ain't so no matter how much the press tried to push it.
#92. To: go65 (#81)
she was a negative draw on his campaign
#93. To: Badeyel sneakypete (#91)
(Edited)
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives.
In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That's a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Palin's qualifications to be president now rank as voters' top concern about John McCain's candidacy - "ahead of continuing President Bush's policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq,"
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#94. To: Ibluafartsky (#92)
You are willfully stupid, aren't you?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#95. To: sneakypete (#88)
Read my lips! I said I would apologize if you (or pete), show us where McCain said Palin 'Isn't Qualified to be president'....neither of you have done this.
#96. To: go65 (#93)
#97. To: sneakypete (#64)
#98. To: go65, Badeyel sneakypete (#93)
And then a huge fall-off as people got to know her. See favorability ratings below:
#99. To: go65 (#94)
i don't play the insult game.
#100. To: Badeye (#91)
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives.
#101. To: Ferret Mike (#95)
Here is what I was talking about quoted with the thread/post URL.
#102. To: A K A Stone (#97)
McCain said he isn't supporting anyone at the moment. You don't know what I saw.
#103. To: sneakypete (#100)
very poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Yeah,that's what I wrote.
#104. To: meguro (#103)
#105. To: Fred Mertz (#104)
At least he's seen the light. Give the old man a break.
#106. To: meguro (#103)
And you were the guy with a big bump in his pants for Palin at first.
#107. To: meguro (#105)
That racist prick? Never.
#108. To: sneakypete (#106)
Not especially,although I would have jumped her bones if I had a chance. She is a good-looking woman,and I like women.
#109. To: meguro (#108)
You'd probably jump anything with a pulse at this stage of your life.
#110. To: Wood_Chopper (#69)
You have just described the "good ol' boy" network perfectly.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#111. To: meguro (#108)
"You'd probably jump anything with a pulse at this stage of your life".
#112. To: sneakypete (#100)
#113. To: Badeye (#112)
But it seems to be exactly opposite of what you suggested.
#114. To: sneakypete (#113)
#115. To: sneakypete (#100)
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Yeah,that's what I wrote.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#116. To: go65 (#115)
yes, huge bump, until she opened her mouth.
#117. To: sneakypete (#116)
As usual,you have it backwards. Every time she opened her mouth,McLunatic's ratings went up. Until the media bitched and he jumped in front of a microphone to apologize for what she had said.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#118. To: go65 (#117)
go back and watch her interview with Katie Couric.
#119. To: Skip Intro (#118)
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