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Title: Juan Williams Sees Rove-vs.-Palin ‘Civil War’ Inside GOP
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URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/ ... sees-rove-palin-gop-civil-war/
Published: Nov 7, 2010
Author: David Edwards
Post Date: 2010-11-07 13:41:56 by Brian S
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The midterm elections brought big wins for the Republicans but they also exposed fractures within the party. Fox News' Juan Williams described Sunday what he called a "civil war" between the establishment Republicans and the tea party. "I think there is a civil war of sorts going on," Williams said. "We don't talk about it much -- between the Republican establishment and tea party people. It's Sarah Palin [vs.] Karl Rove if you want to personify it." In no place were the divisions as obvious during the mid-term elections as they were with opinions on Christine O'Donnell, the GOP's Senate candidate in Delaware. Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin endorsed O'Donnell during the primaries, which may have put the candidate over the top in winning the Republican endorsement. On the night that she won her primary victory, Rove told Fox News' Sean Hannity that O'Donnell was known for saying "nutty things." "This is not a race we're going to be able to win," Rove added. Following O'Donnell's loss in the general election, Rove said, "Look, it gave me no pleasure to say she was unlikely to win." "This again proves a lesson. This is a candidate right on the issues, but had mishandled a series of questions raised by the press early on in the race about her background and previous statements." Palin called out Rove by name after O'Donnell's loss. "I look forward to Karl Rove and others looking at...reporting that exit polls are showing that Mike Castle would have even lost to Chris Coons," she said on Fox News. "There was never any guarantee that a hard-core conservative would win in a deep blue state like Delaware." But Rove's viewpoint may be representative of other establishment Republicans who weren't fond of O'Donnell. "I think Delaware was a missed opportunity to have a really good United States senator, Mike Castle, and that's why I endorsed him in the primary," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said on NBC Sunday. Rove and Palin also clashed over the former governor's new reality show. Rove told the Telegraph that he failed to see how a reality show helped Palin make a serious run at the presidency in 2012. "There are high standards that the American people have for [the presidency] and they require a certain level of gravitas, and they want to look at the candidate and say 'that candidate is doing things that gives me confidence that they are up to the most demanding job in the world,'" he said. The next week, Palin compared herself to another entertainer, President Ronald Reagan, to defend her new show. "Those standards have to be high for someone who would ever want to run for president like, um, wasn't Ronald Reagan an actor? Wasn't he in Bedtime for Bonzo, bozo or something? Ronald Reagan was an actor," she said. "Now look. I'm not in a reality show. I have eight episodes documenting Alaska's resources, what it is that we can contribute to the rest of US to economically and physically secure our union, and my family comes along for the ride because I am family, family is us, and my family comes along on the ride to document these eight episodes for The Learning Channel. ... So Karl is wrong right there in calling it a reality show," she said. This video is from Fox's Fox News Sunday, broadcast Nov. 7, 2010.
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Ignoring that once again she makes no sense at all here, the point is not that "I am family" but "we all get paid".
Oh this is going to be 'fun' indeed! {{{laughing}}}
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Noted Christie.
Some people get paid to work. Some people collect free money that the govt stole from people who work. Democrats are lazy and want someone else to work so they can get free stuff.
Juan got that one 51% right,proving he is among the smarted of the leftist press. He blew it by saying Palin represents the Tea Party. The only people that have crowned her as the Queen are his leftist pals in the media and the fascist left RINO's of the alleged Republican Party.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You must have never been to tea party event. They Love Palin.
Laughable how the mainstream media is pretending this is something 'new' or 'odd'. This is how it goes after EACH election cycle, especially when part of the Congress changes Majority control. Its minor jockeying for position. The really interesting fight is within the Democrats House caucus, with the brain dead Pelosi insisting she be retained despite a history making massacre last Tuesday. Personally, I'm more than happy with the three headed uber liberal beast of Pelosi, Reid and Owe-bama. Pass the popcorn.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Cristie is another one like Palin who talks tough, and then endorses liberal anti-American globalists like Castle and McCain. Party before principle, or are they just globalist traitors at heart? Either way, they're not worth a damn.
I think the jury is still out on Palin. Time will tell.
Hmmm. I don't think it is. She did what was necessary politically with an eye towards her future as it relates to 2012. If she hadn't endorsed McCain - and I think you know I hate that little self righteous prick - it would have made it tougher for her to work within the GOP for the next few years.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I certainly wouldn't lump Chris Christie with Karl Rove. Christie has cut the New Jersey budget by 9% across the board. That wasn't a cut in projected spending. It was a real cut in year over year spending. Doing that at the federal level would mean that the government would spend $320 billion less next year than this year. Rove on the other hand was the primary architect of Bush's attempt to buy the senior citizen vote with Medicare part D, which will run a $1 trillion deficit over the next 10 years. Christie is a good guy. Rove is a big government moron.
I like Palin. I will vote for her if she wins the nomination. I'd rather have a Rand Paul though. When I say the jury is out what I am saying is that we can't really know her views unless she is elected and we get to see what she does. I know she would do a better job then the unqualified Obama.
...cuts the New Jersey budget -- a real cut, not a "cut" in projected spending.
There is no fight there. Pelosi would not have announced she wants to be minority leader if she didn't already have the votes locked in. There might be a fight for the number 2 spot, but Pelosi will be minority leader.
If she was going to compromise, she'd have done so already in my view.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Given she 'announced' last Monday the Dems would retain the House, pardon me if I doubt her grasp of 'reality' here, jw. That said...probably correct. All that survived last Tuesday are hardcore leftwingnuts.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Heath Schuler is a hardcore leftwingnut? Chuckle.
All that survived last Tuesday are hardcore leftwingnuts. Heath Schuler is a hardcore leftwingnut? Is he as far left as the average Dem that survived the massacre? By a small matter of degree, maybe you can make that argument. See his voting record and how it kow tows to Pelosi the past two years. The voting record is the record that matters.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
See his voting record and how it kow tows to Pelosi the past two years. http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=57781
Maybe we have different standards. If we want jobs back dump NAFTA GATT etc. Put tariffs on imports. Is Palin a free trader? I hope not but suspect she probably is. They also need to end these stupid wars that are helping to bankrupt us. Everything needs to be on the table as far as spending cuts go. Those are my main concerns that I think Palin will be on the opposite side of. Except maybe the spending cuts.
FYI: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/07/AR2010070704809.html ------- None of the above would help the US economy. In fact it would make it worse.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I like Rand Pauls idea better. Everything on the table.
We are already losing the trade war. They undercut our wages and our people are out of work. Time to end the global trade agreements and the world trade organization and start looking after our people. How can it be any worse? If we put tariffs on foreign goods and they retaliate so what. They are already beating us with their slave wages. We need things made in the USA if we are to remain prosperous. It gives companies to bring the jobs back here. Face it the economy started going bad after all these globalist ideas. That is the root problem.
You must have never been to tea party event. You're right. I haven't. They Love Palin. Some do and some don't,but she is NOT a Tea Party "leader" in any respect. She is a Republican and is more of a neo-con RINO than she is a conservative. Yeah,she has endorsed some good TP candidates,and a couple of loons like O'Donnell,but so what. That doesn't make her management. The only truly conservative positive political thing that can be said about her is that she is pro-2nd Amendment. She can't possibly have a pro-TP outlook when their main focus is on fiscal conservatism,and she wants amnesty (but not "total" amnesty) for illegal aliens.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
How is O'Donnell a loon?
Either way, they're not worth a damn. Because it needs to be said again. If Palin doesn't run in 2012,I have no doubt she will endorse The Huckster. After all,he was a fundie preacher.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
he'll change his tune the minute he gets to D.C., just as he already did on the civil rights act and medicare.
Think about what you just wrote,and the explain to me how we are supposed to change things and save the Republic by working within the RINO Party? The ONLY way to "work within" the party is to be subservient to the RINO leadership,which she has really done a bang-up job of doing,but while that may benefit HER,all that gets us is more of the same.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You don't REALLY think that Palin has any interest in ending a Holy War,do you? Every word I have heard her say about the current disasters is pro-War/Onward Christian Soldiers.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And it should be. Very few people are more pro-military than me,but their budgeting now has more to do with buying votes for select politicians than it does defending the country. Hell,they get major items like aircraft they don't even want because they happen to be built in a state or city where a prominent politician calls home. Then they don't get the things they want and need because the money has already been spent buying votes.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Uhhh,scientists breeding animals with humans in labs? Not to mention the whole religious loon End Times BullBarack.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Time to end the global trade agreements and the world trade organization and start looking after our people. Ending NAFTA and GATT will only excerbate the situation. And we aren't in a 'trade war' thank God, cause we'd lose as things stand today. We have the second highest corporate tax rate on the planet. We have one of the highest paid workforces IN HISTORY. Those two are the two primary reasons manufacturing went kaput here in America. Toss in the insane demands of unions, and the end game was predictable as the sun rising in the east.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
That's like saying that Ike had to endorse Hitler in order to beat him. If she is truly NOT a RINO, she will go NOWHERE working WITHIN the GOP. Palin lost a HUGE amount of support by endorsing McCain. Refresh my memory. Did Rand Paul support McCain? Wasn't he just elected? How many of the recently elected tea party candidates endorsed McCain?
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
it would have made it tougher for her to work within the GOP for the next few years. Think about what you just wrote,and the explain to me how we are supposed to change things and save the Republic by working within the RINO Party? Palin gets nowhere if she doesn't first support those few that gave her an opportunity to walk on to the national stage. McCain doesn't run the GOP, sneaky. He was going to beat JD Hayworth no matter who said what, primarily because JD was a hypocrite, but also seriously outgunned in that race against McCain. Palin's backing McCain didn't change a single vote in that race. But it did ensure McCain wouldn't back stab her when HER TIME COMES. At least thats how its supposed to work. You have to gain control of the party before you can change its direction. Thats happening NOW, but there is another election cycle or two before it can be accomplished. The new GOP office holders coming into the House is an amazing start.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Spare me the drama queen 'hitler' analogies.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So, you're saying she was lying when she said she supported McCain?
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Palin lost a HUGE amount of support by endorsing McCain. Refresh my memory. Did Rand Paul support McCain? Wasn't he just elected? How many of the recently elected tea party candidates endorsed McCain?
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
So, the RINO party will be the arbiter of when "her time has come?"
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Palin's backing McCain didn't change a single vote in that race. But it did ensure McCain wouldn't back stab her when HER TIME COMES. So, you're saying she was lying when she said she supported McCain? Did I say that? No.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Really? As measured...how, exactly? She drew huge crowds, raised tons of cash for the GOP AND those she endorsed, 71% of whom WON.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I'm a Conservative by choice, a Republican in Name Only. There are lots of different 'RINO's', some of us belong to the GOP because its the only viable options for Conservatives that want to actually affect things, rather than just beat our chests and claim 'purity' from the sidelines. I have a huge problem with so called 'moderates' and an even bigger issue with the old boy network types like Mitch McConnell in the GOP. But knowing 'how things work' I realize the McConnell's of the GOP are going to be replaced sooner rather than later, if for no other reason than age. The new batch resulting from the Tea Party influence has a great opportunity to remake the Republican Party, bring it back to its roots of smaller government, less interference in the daily lives of average Americans, less taxation and regulation. If all you want to do is throw rocks through the windows of the GOP...while I can understand the urge, I don't think its productive long term. Been there, done that. Look what we got from it. The only alternative is to change it from within. Maybe its a forelorn hope, but maybe not. I like what I'm seeing today as a result of this election cycle. To me, its encouraging.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
The new GOP office holders coming into the House is an amazing start. You're wasting keystrokes attempting to educate the lunatic fringe.
Palin endorsed Rand Paul.
You actually admit it anyway fishlips. Now admit that you're a neo-con.
You don't have to admit that you are a clueless faggot, freddie, we all know it.
Once you realize I post for my own benefit - something that idiot McIver could never fathom btw - you don't worry about educating anyone in these forums.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I'm a Conservative by choice, a Republican in Name Only. You actually admit it anyway fishlips. Now admit that you're a neo-con. Freddie, did the horse turn you down again, or is it you just blew through your government check at the track already this month?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
How long have you been a registered Pubbie?
As I noted four years ago, since the 2006 Ohio primary season, when Jim Petro ran a racist campaign ad against Ken Blackwell in the primary. I couldn't just stand by and not vote against that bullshit, given I've known Blackwell since the 1970's. From 1976 til that moment I was a life long registered Independent.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show. He also slammed her several other times.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He said no such thing.
You are such a stupid DELETED. And don't you forget it.
He said no such thing. Yes,he did. I saw it and heard it the night he was on.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He said he wasn't supporting anyone at the moment. paraphrase
Quit clowning around with the DELETED.
Fuck you.
Got a hardon for Stoney, eh faggot freddie? Go for it, homo!
No,his answer to the direct question "Is Sarah Palin presidential material,and do you consider her to be a front runner in 2012?",McLunatic laughed and said "No". He then added something along the line of "She's just not ready."
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I think you are lying or have a bad memory. How about some proof. You made the claim so it is up to you to prove it.
You don't insult the host. Bye. I may let you back in, I may not. Tired of wasting my time on you.
It's more than just a wage issue. It's also about excess taxes and regulations. Intel has said that 25% of the cost of building a new $4 billion fab in the U.S. is due to government taxes and regulations. So, they are building fabs in Taiwan and China instead. Maybe it wasn't such a big deal when textile manufacturing when to China. In an emergency, it's pretty easy to throw some suing machines in a room and make cloths. You can't build clean rooms overnights to produce microprocessors. Letting high-tech manufacturing migrate overseas is a huge deal for the future of this country. Brain dead politicians are clearly to blame.
Oh come on, there are 3 or 4 politicians / ex-politicians that are clearly tea party leaders. Dick Armey, Jim DeMint, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, now Rand Paul, and maybe one or two others. Of the bunch, Palin did more to help the movement in the last year than anyone else.
I think you need to kiss my ass,RINO Boy. You made the claim so it is up to you to prove it. Fuck you. YOU made the claim I am lying,so YOU do your own work to search out a video clip of the show and prove it. *I* watched the show. You didn't.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Laura Ingram was singing Rand Paul's praises on Fox & Friends this morning because of some interview he did this weekend. She he's smart, articulate, detailed in his answers, can handle the press, and dedicated to changing things. She thinks he is going to be a conservative rock star. I believe she is right.
You can NOT say you "adore John McCain and support him 100%." and be anything other than a RINO. Period. As for Dick Armey,the SOB is trying to jump ahead of the pack so he can take over for his globalist RINO buddies and destroy it from inside. He talks a good talk,but he is a big government fascist to his rotten core.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
That is very true. Here's an example: Traditionally, a captain commanded a ship. An Admiral commanded a fleet of ships. Today, there are more Admirals in the Navy than ships. WHY????? The military has become a big inefficient government bureaucracy, just like every other big inefficient government bureaucracy. Throwing money at these bureaucrats is not enhancing our national security. In fact, it's detracting from it. There are a growing number of people on the right who get this, and not just the new comers. Tom Coburn is one of the most conservative people in the senate. He has also been pushing for cuts in the military budget as part of Obama's deficit commission.
Period. This was nothing more than her paying him back for propelling her to the national stage. You don't stab someone in the back who helped your career. Because if you do so, no one will trust you and help you again. It's no different than in business. It doesn't mean you have to agree with them on the issues or vote the way they want you. I've helped a lot of people's careers over the years when I was in big business. Now that I'm on my own, if I need an introduction or a recommendation I go right back to the people I've helped and ask them to do it for me. They do. It's the way successful people operate -- by creating and leveraging relationships.
I've helped a lot of people's careers over the years when I was in big business. Now that I'm on my own, if I need an introduction or a recommendation I go right back to the people I've helped and ask them to do it for me. They do. It's the way successful people operate -- by creating and leveraging relationships. You have just described the "good ol' boy" network perfectly. You want it to continue, yet hope for a different result. Insanity. You have made very clear that Palin's loyalty is to the powers that be, and not to America, its Constitution, or its people.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
And speaking of war. Just a btw, if anyone lives in California. Monday 5 pm Mystery Missile Launch 35 miles off the West Coast seen by millions. And yet, not a word til now.
He did not say this, sneaky.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So you are praying to the Aqua Buddah? :-)
he's referring to this: April 14, 2009: That cost him any chance of beating Paul. Weird you would bring it up, given it was THE most disasterous political campaign decision of the entire cycle.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Who's poised to lead the Republican party out of the woods? John McCain seems convinced that one GOP notable is not the person for the job, someone he's quite familiar with - his former running mate. On Monday's "Tonight Show," Jay Leno asked the Arizona Senator to name the new guiding lights of the Republican party, and McCain was quick to rattle off a list of "young, dynamic" governors around the country. Palin wasn't one of them. McCain singled out Lousisana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Florida Gov. Charlie Christ, Minnesota's Tim Pawlenty, and Mitt Romney, McCain's chief rival for the Republican presidential nod in 2008. In case anyone missed his conspicuous omission of Palin, McCain then added, "And I've left out somebody's name, and I'm gonna hear about it." Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/04/14/2009-04-14_john_mccainsarah_palin_rift_grows_wider_as_sen_leaves_former_running_mate_off_li.html#ixzz14nlapI8O McCain has made it plain the wool she pulled over his eyes is gone. He does not think her qualified or presidential timber. You are correct, Stone - as usual - is politically delusional.
Post this quote by mccain, and the link, where he said (exactly)'she's not qualified'...
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
A democrat wasn't going to win in Kentucky. What the GOP proved in this cycle was tea party nuts can only win in deep red states.
rotflmao. Riiiight. It was all those evil gun and bible clingers....(eyes rolling)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Tell me how excluding her from his list of presidential possibles and then sarcastically noting he willfully excluded her is anything but saying she is not presidential timber. All you do here in the face of the obvious is play the child who will scream and take her toys and go home if something is not said exactly as she wants the message. The inability to see the obvious is your affliction, not mine. Besides; all I did was dig up what Pete was referring to. I already knew Palin is not a good choice for the presidency. And ultimately, my opinion which is in concordance with McCain's on her regarding qualification for that office is what I care about. I have known Pete since the mid nineties, and he is a shrewd judge of political and social things, and has the reputation of meaning what he says. No one who knows Pete takes accusations he tells lies seriously, he is too well known as someone who refuses to fib. But people are used to seeing you let your emotions overload your brain pan and go into a hissy fit of rage. Call whom you wish to a liar if you want to. People consider the source; and Pete has a far better reputation in forums than you ever will. ;-D
This was nothing more than her paying him back for propelling her to the national stage. She paid him back by pulling in enough votes that he didn't lose the election by Biblical proportions. Most of the people I know that voted for him ONLY voted for him because she was his running mate. You don't stab someone in the back who helped your career. He did. He was stabbing her in the back within days of the election being over.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You ought to compare polling numbers before and after he selected her. He ended up doing worse with her then he was doing without her, she was a negative draw on his campaign.
He did not say this, sneaky. You are right. He merely smiled and said "No." when Leno asked him if Palin were qualified to be a presidential front runner and maybe president in 2012.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And Leno asked a follow up question and named Palin by name.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You are giving Murron a nervous breakdown because she's not getting this message in the exact wording she wants. And she's refusing the peace offering of a Midol tablet. She's making all of us who know you laugh ourselves silly by calling you a liar. Thanks for sparking the unintended and very amusing sideshow.
If she were as politically aware as the Palinites claim she is she would BRAG about that.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Exactly.
Yeah,I know that is the mantra of the neo-cons and their brothers of the left,but it just ain't so no matter how much the press tried to push it. The game was set up for McLunatic to lose to the Chocolate Messiah,and the ruling elite were happy and had things going their way. They even approved of him picking the "nobody from nowhere" as a running mate because she was unknown and inexperienced in national politics. Then she started hitting the ball out of the ballpark when attacking Barry Soetoro,and the ticket she was on was starting to gain traction. Actually I "spoke" (wrote?) too soon. McLunatic started stabbing her in the back BEFORE the election was over. EVERY time she would give a speech and slam Barry over his his incompetence and stupidity,McLunatic would jump in front of a microphone and apologize for her. I lost every speck of respect I had for her when she started defending that treasonous bastard after the election was over,and even supported his Senate re-election campaign. There just ain't no excuse for that. Even IF you buy the "loyalty to the man who put her on the map" nonsense,you are applauding somebody that puts loyalty to self ahead of loyalty to the country and the Constitution. As I wrote earlier,there just ain't no excuse for that.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
It was Stone that called me a liar,not her.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
You have a link to that? To McCain telling the entire world he made a horrific choice, especialy given his advanced age and well documented medical ailments?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
sneaky, Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Its not 'mantra' its documented fact. Look it up for yourself.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You are willfully stupid, aren't you?
And then a huge fall-off as people got to know her. See favorability ratings below: And from an NBC/WSJ poll on October 28th: Sorry, but i don't play the insult game. Have a nice day.
Either McCain said it, or he didn't, which is it? No one asked you what you 'thought mccain said', I'm calling both of you Bald Faced Liars! http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=14765&Disp=95#C94 Here is what I was talking about quoted with the thread/post URL. In any event, this is a usual tempest in a teapot from her; it's nothing to fret over.
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. And then a huge fall-off as people got to know her. See favorability ratings below: ...which has nothing to do with the conversation sneaky and I are having.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So I am supposed to go find a video that doesn't exist. Don't be stupid. McCain said he isn't supporting anyone at the moment. You don't know what I saw.
Yopu are so FOS your eyes are brown. What caused McCain's poll numbers to fall? The most decisive event in this campaign wasn't anything either of the candidates said at their respective conventions or in any of the debates. It wasn't a sound bite from a speech or interview, or a memorable assertion in a television commercial or e-mail attachment. The turning point in this election didn't happen on the campaign trail but rather on Wall Street. In the last week of September, the race was essentially tied. Then Wall Street collapsed -- and it collapsed right on top of John McCain.
You play the disinformationist game. I called you on it.
Yeah,that's what I wrote.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Thanks. I hadn't seen that. It's amazing the lengths some people who call themselves conservatives will go to in order to defend the undefendable,ain't it?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Where did I say he was supporting anybody?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And you were the guy with a big bump in his pants for Palin at first. ROTFL!
At least he's seen the light. Give the old man a break.
That racist prick? Never.
Not especially,although I would have jumped her bones if I had a chance. She is a good-looking woman,and I like women. I was VERY pro-Palin politically at first,though. I even made allowances and excuses for her at first. Then she quit the governor's job to cash in on her fame. I didn't like that,but I still leaned towards supporting her possible candidacy in 2012. Then she came out supporting McLunatic,and that was just inexcusable.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Temper,temper,Princess.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You'd probably jump anything with a pulse at this stage of your life.
Nope. For one thing,it has to be a woman and the woman has to be either physically or intellectually attractive to me. A woman that is pretty and has a good and curious mind hits it out of the ballpark.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Absolutely not. I've described helping good people with their careers.
Coming from a filthy, gender confused, perverted sodomite, that's hilarious...in a sick sort of way!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Yeah,that's what I wrote. But it seems to be exactly opposite of what you suggested.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Only to you.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
You must be filtering then.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
yes, huge bump, until she opened her mouth.
As usual,you have it backwards. Every time she opened her mouth,McLunatic's ratings went up. Until the media bitched and he jumped in front of a microphone to apologize for what she had said.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
go back and watch her interview with Katie Couric.
That bitch set her up. What would you say if someone asked you what newspapers and magazines you read, huh?
Consumer Reports. The new issue came in today's mail.
Finally going to get that 3D TV?
I'd answer it in about 2 seconds - ESPN, Newsweek, The Washington Post, Scouter, and Life Extension.
i stopped reading it but i still subscribe to the web site. I've usually found that the products they review are often obsolete by the time the magazine is published. Though I will say that thanks to them we bought a front-loader washer 8 years ago and couldn't be happier.
After about 10 straight years subscribing to Consumer Reports I decided to not renew it. I page through it and sometimes focus on an area of interest or two. It's been like a security blanket - if I need it it's there. Well, the local library has it if I need it. I think it's in my genes...my dad always subscribed and still does as far as I know. I never did sign up for their online services.
Much like your bottle of 80 proof rotgut.
It seems to mean more to you and your fellow leftists that she didn't appear to read national newspapers and magazines than the fact that Barry Soetoro seems to have became a lawyer without taking a single test or writing a single paper. As for me,I consider that ambush journalism by Kommie Katie. Hell,*I* haven't read a newspaper in decades. I get my news from the web. I suspect you do,too.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He would say "Pravda" (NYT),Salon,and Rolling Stone.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Don't forget HuffPo.
It meant a lot to a lot of voters, which is why McCain's showing in November was worse than his polling BEFORE he selected her. It is the economy, STUPID!
Do you hate figs too? Personally, I love those Fig Newtons!
You don't look Japanese!
Given how fascinated you are with both Bush and Obama's sexualities, I have my doubts.
Since when is noticing the obvious a fascination? I mention when it's raining too,but that doesn't make me a weatherman.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Absolutely not. I've described helping good people with their careers. So Palin was just helping someone she thinks is "good people" with his career. Now you're taking my side of the argument. Palin thinks McCain is "good people."
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Palin endorsed McCain.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Palin endorsed Bachmann.
Palin endorses Palin! LOL, she's coming here to Lexington for another book signing....
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Palin endorsed McCain. And why shouldn't she. Both she and John want amnesty for illegal aliens.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
She's like the rest of them.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Cool! Who wrote it?
Wantever you say Obamassmuncher!
She's like the rest of them. It is totally understandable why you don't like yourself, dipshit!
Both Palin and McCain want amnesty for illegal aliens. Obama wants amnesty also. Your personal attack doesn't pass the smell test. But since you can't defend Palin, it's all you have left.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
I don't see that it's necessary, Obamassmuncher. Lies and baseless allegations are the tools of you marxist assholes.
And accusing anyone who opposes marxist RINOs of being for obama, is a tool used by marxist neo-con one party shills. Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, yukon.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Oh don't get me wrong Iblu, I haven't made my mind up about her yet...time will tell. btw, I do have her book, my son got it for me, he's very infatuated with her, but I'm not in awe of her enough to want her autograph, celeberties don't impress....I'd rather know more about her ideas, where she stands on the issues that concern us, her convictions, and just how far she may go to compromise them...&;-)
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Yukon lives in your ignorant, empty marxist skull, dullard. Palin has more intestinal fortitude and integrity than you and all your queer friends will have in a lifetime.
I just love the way she drives the leftwingnuts and liberals fookin crazy. ( Not that most of the assmunchers weren't to start!)
I'm not the only one here that knows you're yukon, yukon. >>Palin has more intestinal fortitude and integrity than you and all your queer friends will have in a lifetime. Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, and endorsed McCain. It is not lost on folks here that you defend that. Nor is it lost on folks here that you turn to personal attacks when you lose a debate.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens You are definitely not the only delusional, empty-headed, marxist asshole here. Your plaintive, mournful desperation is so retarded! Grow some balls, girlyman.
Your plaintive, mournful desperation is so retarded! Grow some balls, girlyman. Nor is it lost on folks here that you turn to personal attacks when you lose a debate. You just can't resist hitting the tar-baby, can you. Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, and endorsed John McCain. Period. You've offered no defense to those claims other than juvenile personal attacks yukon, your stock-in-trade. Your defense of McCain and amnesty is telling.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
I know what you mean, it's something to watch....lmbo...
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Yukon likes to paint the anti-RINOs as leftwingnuts and liberals.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
You just can't resist hitting the tar-baby, Your defense of McCain and amnesty is telling. I haven't. Is that how you perceive yourself, woodchipper Never defended either, dumbass. Your baseless accusations prove what a sleazeball phony you are.
Wood chipper is frothing at the mouth and peeing his/her/its pants!
Here ya go yukon:Poll: More than half of public views Palin negatively http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=298450&Disp=0 The "indies", who love the principles of the tea party, know she's a RINO. Yet you paint these indies as "frothing at the mouth and peeing his/her/its pants!" You've got nothing but personal attacks left. You're a joke on this site. She exposed what she was when she endorsed amnesty and McCain.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Yet you paint these indies as "frothing at the mouth and peeing his/her/its pants!" What's the matter organ grinder, is Ibluafartsky too difficult for you to spell? You're just another conpiracy fag. No stump-stupid, I posted that you are "frothing at the mouth and peeing his/her/its pants!" You really need to stop drinking paint thinner moron! Now where is that link where I state that I support McCain and amnesty you fookin lying POS?
Well yukon, it would be your defense and love of Palin, who supports amnesty and McCain.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Typical of you fookin delusional, lying, conspiracy jackoffs. All talk and zero action! You're as useless as Obama, girlyman!
De-caf. Try de-caf.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
Why does Palin want amnesty for illegal aliens? Why does she support McCain the RINO? Is it because they both want amnesty?
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
She doesn't. Why are you fookin retarded, organ grinder?
(yukon)She doesn't. Yes she does yukon. All your spin, hair splitting, and personal attacks won't change that. She endorses amnesty, as well as endorsing McCain. And you defend her.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
And yet you responded to me 15 times tonight. 15 times. You're fooling only the sheep, yukon.
(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care. Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.
I always attempt to educate delusional, retarded, sheep humping, propagandists like you, organ grinder. Don't the retards at 4um miss you?
and my family comes along for the ride because I am family, family is us, and my family comes along on the ride to document these eight episodes for The Learning Channel. ... So Karl is wrong right there in calling it a reality show," she said.
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Mike Castle, and that's why I endorsed him in the primary," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said on NBC Sunday.
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"I am family" but "we all get paid".
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Fox News' Juan Williams described Sunday what he called a "civil war" between the establishment Republicans and the tea party.
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Mike Castle, and that's why I endorsed him in the primary," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said on NBC Sunday.
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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said...
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Cristie is another one like Palin who talks tough, and then...
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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The really interesting fight is within the Democrats House caucus, with the brain dead Pelosi insisting she be retained despite a history making massacre last Tuesday.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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There is no fight there. Pelosi would not have announced she wants to be minority leader if she didn't already have the votes locked in.
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All that survived last Tuesday are hardcore leftwingnuts.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
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Is he as far left as the average Dem that survived the massacre? By a small matter of degree, maybe you can make that argument.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
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Those are my main concerns that I think Palin will be on the opposite side of. Except maybe the spending cuts.
Sarah Palin is waging a battle inside the "tea party" movement to exempt defense spending from the group's small-government, anti-deficit fervor.
"Secretary Gates recently spoke about the future of the U.S. Navy. He said we have to ask whether the nation can really afford a Navy that relies on $3 [billion] to $6 billion destroyers, $7 billion submarines and $11 billion carriers. He went on to ask, 'Do we really need . . . more strike groups for another 30 years when no other country has more than one?' " Palin said. "Well, my answer is pretty simple: Yes, we can and yes, we do, because we must."
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
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If we want jobs back dump NAFTA GATT etc. Put tariffs on imports.
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#24. To: Badeye (#22)
#25. To: A K A Stone (#6)
#26. To: sneakypete (#25)
Yeah,she has endorsed some good TP candidates,and a couple of loons like O'Donnell,
#27. To: hondo68 (#8)
Cristie is another one like Palin who talks tough, and then endorses liberal anti-American globalists like Castle and McCain. Party before principle, or are they just globalist traitors at heart?
#28. To: A K A Stone (#23)
I like Rand Pauls idea better. Everything on the table.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#29. To: Badeye (#10)
it would have made it tougher for her to work within the GOP for the next few years.
#30. To: A K A Stone (#20)
They also need to end these stupid wars that are helping to bankrupt us.
#31. To: A K A Stone (#23)
I like Rand Pauls idea better. Everything on the table.
#32. To: A K A Stone (#26)
How is O'Donnell a loon?
#33. To: A K A Stone (#24)
We are already losing the trade war. They undercut our wages and our people are out of work.
#34. To: Badeye (#10)
If she hadn't endorsed McCain ... it would have made it tougher for her to work within the GOP for the next few years.
#35. To: sneakypete (#29)
#36. To: Wood_Chopper (#34)
That's like saying that Ike had to endorse Hitler in order to beat him.
#37. To: Badeye (#35)
Palin's backing McCain didn't change a single vote in that race. But it did ensure McCain wouldn't back stab her when HER TIME COMES.
#38. To: Badeye (#36)
#39. To: Badeye (#35)
But it did ensure McCain wouldn't back stab her when HER TIME COMES.
#40. To: Wood_Chopper (#37)
#41. To: Wood_Chopper (#38)
Palin lost a HUGE amount of support by endorsing McCain.
#42. To: Wood_Chopper (#39)
So, the RINO party will be the arbiter of when "her time has come?"
#43. To: Badeye, sneakypete (#35)
You have to gain control of the party before you can change its direction. Thats happening NOW, but there is another election cycle or two before it can be accomplished.
#44. To: Wood_Chopper, Badeye (#38)
Did Rand Paul support McCain? Wasn't he just elected?
#45. To: Badeye (#42)
I'm a Conservative by choice, a Republican in Name Only.
#46. To: Fred Mertz (#45)
You actually admit it
#47. To: Ibluafartsky (#43)
#48. To: Fred Mertz (#45)
#49. To: Badeye (#48)
#50. To: Fred Mertz (#49)
How long have you been a registered Pubbie?
#51. To: Badeye (#35)
Palin's backing McCain didn't change a single vote in that race. But it did ensure McCain wouldn't back stab her when HER TIME COMES.
#52. To: sneakypete (#51)
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show.
#53. To: A K A Stone (#52)
#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show.
#55. To: sneakypete (#54)
#56. To: Fred Mertz (#53)
#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)
#58. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#57)
Fuck you.
#59. To: A K A Stone (#55)
He said he wasn't supporting anyone at the moment. paraphrase
#60. To: sneakypete (#59)
#61. To: Fred Mertz (#57)
#62. To: A K A Stone (#24)
They undercut our wages and our people are out of work.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#63. To: sneakypete (#25)
she is NOT a Tea Party "leader" in any respect.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#64. To: A K A Stone (#60)
I think you are lying or have a bad memory.
#65. To: go65 (#28)
he'll change his tune the minute he gets to D.C., just as he already did on the civil rights act and medicare.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#66. To: jwpegler (#63)
(Edited)
Oh come on, there are 3 or 4 politicians / ex-politicians that are clearly tea party leaders. Dick Armey, Jim DeMint, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, now Rand Paul, and maybe one or two others.
#67. To: sneakypete (#31)
(Edited)
Very few people are more pro-military than me,but their budgeting now has more to do with buying votes for select politicians than it does defending the country.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#68. To: sneakypete (#66)
(Edited)
You can NOT say you "adore John McCain and support him 100%." and be anything other than a RINO.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#69. To: jwpegler, sneakypete (#68)
This was nothing more than her paying him back for propelling her to the national stage.
#70. To: jwpegler, All (#68)
#71. To: sneakypete (#51)
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show.
#72. To: jwpegler (#65)
I believe she is right.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#73. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete, badeye (#52)
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show.
On Monday's "Tonight Show," Jay Leno asked the Arizona Senator to name the new guiding lights of the Republican party, and McCain was quick to rattle off a list of "young, dynamic" governors around the country.
Palin wasn't one of them.
McCain singled out Lousisana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Florida Gov. Charlie Christ, Minnesota's Tim Pawlenty, and Mitt Romney, McCain's chief rival for the Republican presidential nod in 2008.
In case anyone missed his conspicuous omission of Palin, McCain then added, "And I've left out somebody's name, and I'm gonna hear about it."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/04/14/2009-04- 14_john_mccainsarah_palin_rift_grows_wider_as_sen_leaves_former_running_mate_off_li.html#ixzz14nk rJRWn
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#74. To: go65 (#72)
So you are praying to the Aqua Buddah?
#75. To: sneakypete (#54)
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
"He does not think her qualified.."
#77. To: Badeye (#74)
That cost him any chance of beating Paul. Weird you would bring it up, given it was THE most disasterous political campaign decision of the entire cycle.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#78. To: go65 (#77)
A democrat wasn't going to win in Kentucky
#79. To: Murron (#76)
(Edited)
"Post this quote by mccain, and the link, where he said (exactly)'she's not qualified'..."
#80. To: jwpegler (#68)
#81. To: sneakypete (#80)
She paid him back by pulling in enough votes that he didn't lose the election by Biblical proportions. Most of the people I know that voted for him ONLY voted for him because she was his running mate.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#82. To: Badeye (#71)
He back stabbed her within days by saying she wasn't qualified to run for president on the Tonight Show.
#83. To: go65 (#73)
In case anyone missed his conspicuous omission of Palin, McCain then added, "And I've left out somebody's name, and I'm gonna hear about it."
#84. To: sneakypete (#80)
#85. To: Ferret Mike (#75)
McCain has made it plain the wool she pulled over his eyes is gone. He does not think her qualified or presidential timber.
#86. To: sneakypete (#85)
If she were as politically aware as the Palinites claim she is she would BRAG about that.
#87. To: go65 (#81)
You ought to compare polling numbers before and after he selected her. He ended up doing worse with her then he was doing without her, she was a negative draw on his campaign.
#88. To: Ferret Mike, AKA Stone, Murron (#84)
She's making all of us who know you laugh ourselves silly by calling you a liar.
#89. To: sneakypete (#54)
#90. To: sneakypete (#82)
You are right. He merely smiled and said "No." when Leno asked him if Palin were qualified to be a presidential front runner and maybe president in 2012.
#91. To: sneakypete (#87)
Yeah,I know that is the mantra of the neo-cons and their brothers of the left,but it just ain't so no matter how much the press tried to push it.
#92. To: go65 (#81)
she was a negative draw on his campaign
#93. To: Badeyel sneakypete (#91)
(Edited)
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives.
In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That's a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Palin's qualifications to be president now rank as voters' top concern about John McCain's candidacy - "ahead of continuing President Bush's policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq,"
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#94. To: Ibluafartsky (#92)
You are willfully stupid, aren't you?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#95. To: sneakypete (#88)
Read my lips! I said I would apologize if you (or pete), show us where McCain said Palin 'Isn't Qualified to be president'....neither of you have done this.
#96. To: go65 (#93)
#97. To: sneakypete (#64)
#98. To: go65, Badeyel sneakypete (#93)
And then a huge fall-off as people got to know her. See favorability ratings below:
#99. To: go65 (#94)
i don't play the insult game.
#100. To: Badeye (#91)
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives.
#101. To: Ferret Mike (#95)
Here is what I was talking about quoted with the thread/post URL.
#102. To: A K A Stone (#97)
McCain said he isn't supporting anyone at the moment. You don't know what I saw.
#103. To: sneakypete (#100)
very poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Yeah,that's what I wrote.
#104. To: meguro (#103)
#105. To: Fred Mertz (#104)
At least he's seen the light. Give the old man a break.
#106. To: meguro (#103)
And you were the guy with a big bump in his pants for Palin at first.
#107. To: meguro (#105)
That racist prick? Never.
#108. To: sneakypete (#106)
Not especially,although I would have jumped her bones if I had a chance. She is a good-looking woman,and I like women.
#109. To: meguro (#108)
You'd probably jump anything with a pulse at this stage of your life.
#110. To: Wood_Chopper (#69)
You have just described the "good ol' boy" network perfectly.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
#111. To: meguro (#108)
"You'd probably jump anything with a pulse at this stage of your life".
#112. To: sneakypete (#100)
#113. To: Badeye (#112)
But it seems to be exactly opposite of what you suggested.
#114. To: sneakypete (#113)
#115. To: sneakypete (#100)
Every poll showed a huge bump for McCain after he nominated her, especially among Republicans/Conservatives. Yeah,that's what I wrote.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#116. To: go65 (#115)
yes, huge bump, until she opened her mouth.
#117. To: sneakypete (#116)
As usual,you have it backwards. Every time she opened her mouth,McLunatic's ratings went up. Until the media bitched and he jumped in front of a microphone to apologize for what she had said.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#118. To: go65 (#117)
go back and watch her interview with Katie Couric.
#119. To: Skip Intro (#118)
#120. To: Fred Mertz (#119)
Consumer Reports. The new issue came in today's mail.
#121. To: Skip Intro (#118)
That bitch set her up. What would you say if someone asked you what newspapers and magazines you read, huh?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#122. To: Fred Mertz (#119)
Consumer Reports. The new issue came in today's mail.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#123. To: go65 (#122)
#124. To: Fred Mertz (#123)
It's been like a security blanket
#125. To: go65 (#117)
go back and watch her interview with Katie Couric.
#126. To: Skip Intro, go65 (#118)
What would you say if someone asked you what newspapers and magazines you read, huh?
#127. To: sneakypete, Skip Intro, go65 (#126)
He would say "Pravda" (NYT),Salon,and Rolling Stone.
#128. To: sneakypete (#125)
(Edited)
It seems to mean more to you and your fellow leftists that she didn't appear to read national newspapers and magazines than the fact that Barry Soetoro seems to have became a lawyer without taking a single test or writing a single paper.
NBC/WSJ poll on October 28th:
In addition, for the first time, more voters have a negative opinion of her than a positive one. In the survey, 47 percent view her negatively, versus 38 percent who see her in a positive light.
That's a striking shift since McCain chose Palin as his running mate in early September, when she held a 47 to 27 percent positive rating.
Palin's qualifications to be president now rank as voters' top concern about John McCain's candidacy - "ahead of continuing President Bush's policies, enacting economic policies that only benefit the rich and keeping too high of a troop presence in Iraq,"
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#129. To: go65 (#128)
It meant a lot to a lot of voters, which is why McCain's showing in November was worse than his polling BEFORE he selected her.
#130. To: Murron (#111)
Coming from a filthy, gender confused, perverted sodomite, that's hilarious...in a sick sort of way!
#131. To: meguro (#130)
Personally, I love those Fig Newtons!
#132. To: sneakypete (#109)
For one thing,it has to be a woman and the woman has to be either physically or intellectually attractive to me. A woman that is pretty and has a good and curious mind hits it out of the ballpark.
#133. To: meguro (#132)
Given how fascinated you are with both Bush and Obama's sexualities, I have my doubts.
#134. To: jwpegler (#110)
You have just described the "good ol' boy" network perfectly.
#135. To: Ibluafartsky (#44)
Palin endorsed Rand Paul.
#136. To: Wood_Chopper (#135)
Palin endorsed McCain.
#137. To: Ibluafartsky, Wood_Chopper (#136)
#138. To: Ibluafartsky (#136)
(Edited)
Palin endorsed Bachmann.
#139. To: Murron (#137)
Palin endorses Palin!
#140. To: Murron (#137)
LOL, she's coming here to Lexington for another book signing....
#141. To: Wood_Chopper (#138)
Both she and John want amnesty for illegal aliens
#142. To: Wood_Chopper, Murron (#139)
Palin endorses Palin!
#143. To: Ibluafartsky (#141)
Wantever you say Obamassmuncher!
#144. To: Wood_Chopper (#143)
But since you can't defend Palin,
#145. To: Ibluafartsky (#144)
I don't see that it's necessary, Obamassmuncher. Lies and baseless allegations are the tools of you marxist assholes.
#146. To: Ibluafartsky (#142)
#147. To: Wood_Chopper (#145)
Palin wants amnesty for illegal aliens, yukon.
#148. To: Murron (#146)
I haven't made my mind up about her yet...time will tell. btw,
#149. To: Ibluafartsky (#147)
Yukon lives in your ignorant, empty marxist skull, dullard.
#150. To: Wood_Chopper (#149)
I'm not the only one here that knows you're yukon, yukon.
#151. To: Ibluafartsky (#150)
You are definitely not the only delusional, empty-headed, marxist asshole here.
#152. To: Ibluafartsky (#148)
I just love the way she drives the leftwingnuts and liberals fookin crazy. ( Not that most of the assmunchers weren't to start!)
#153. To: Murron (#152)
I just love the way she drives the leftwingnuts and liberals fookin crazy.
#154. To: Wood_Chopper (#151)
when you lose a debate.
#155. To: Murron, Wood Chipper (#152)
I know what you mean, it's something to watch....lmbo...
#156. To: Ibluafartsky (#155)
This divergence among the indies against Palin but for the Tea Party is a little unexpected.
#157. To: Wood_Chopper (#156)
Here ya go yukon:Poll
#158. To: Ibluafartsky (#157)
Now where is that link where I state that I support McCain and amnesty you fookin lying POS?
#159. To: Wood_Chopper (#158)
Well yukon, it would be your defense and love of Palin, who supports amnesty and McCain.
#160. To: Ibluafartsky (#159)
#161. To: Ibluafartsky (#159)
#162. To: Wood_Chopper (#161)
Why does Palin want amnesty for illegal aliens
#163. To: Ibluafartsky (#162)
(W_C) Why does Palin want amnesty for illegal aliens
#164. To: Ibluafartsky (#162)
Why are you fookin retarded, organ grinder?
#165. To: Wood_Chopper (#164)
And yet you responded to me 15 times tonight.
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