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Title: There's No Similarity Between Reagan and Obama
Source: FNC
URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010 ... h-president-economy-recession/
Published: Nov 5, 2010
Author: Craig Shirley
Post Date: 2010-11-05 10:17:32 by Badeye
Keywords: None
Views: 10037
Comments: 13

There's No Similarity Between Reagan and Obama By Craig Shirley

Published November 04, 2010 | FoxNews.com

November 4, marks the thirtieth anniversary of Ronald Reagan’s election as president. Reagan and Obama are often compared. Today, November 4, marks the thirtieth anniversary of Ronald Reagan’s election as president. It is a fitting time to dispense once and for all with the myth that there is any similarity whatsoever between Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama.

Washingtonians and insecure politicians obsess with comparisons but can anyone imagine Lincoln or FDR or JFK or Reagan comparing themselves to previous presidents? Far too secure in their own skin, they enjoyed the presidency as Kennedy said paraphrasing the ancient Greeks that it was "the full use of your powers along lines of excellence."

Fellini said, "you must live spherically" and by this, the old movie director meant one should live their lives in many different directions. Reagan was a star athlete and a good student and a class president at Eureka College and a captain of the swim team there.

He was a successful radio broadcaster, favorite movie actor and a six term union president and host of GE Theatre (one of the most popular shows on television all through the 1950's) and a lecturer and a writer and a governor and a political leader and a rancher and a carpenter and horseman and devote Christian and doting father and loving husband and good friend.

He did all these things before becoming the 40th president of the United States and then when he did, he revived a moribund country, resuscitated a dead economy (far worse than Obama's) and then conquered an Evil Empire, freeing millions imprisoned behind the Iron Curtain.

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And then he rode off into the sunset, never worrying about his post-presidency as a means of cleaning up the mess of his time in office.

He left no mess but instead, the country and the world much better off than he found it. Reagan's legacy didn't need to be rehabilitated. After all, his approval rating in January of 1989 was 70 percent. Among voters under 30, it was a mind boggling 85 percent!

Barack Obama, on the other hand, is our first "Facebook" president. He wrote two autobiographies before he was elected. His only world knowledge is in the study of himself which explains his preferred personal pronouns of "I" and "Me" and "My." He is a product of his generation and has never risen about his utterly self-absorbed culture.

Reagan was derided by the elites all the time he was in Washington as some kind of unsophisticated dummy but in fact was an extraordinary well-read man, having developed his own singular and unique ideology, based on the individual.

He arrived at this as a student of the Enlightenment, of faith and of populism. Thomas Paine was his favorite philosopher and embraced the "Natural Law" of man's freedom associated with him and his peers of the time.

Yet Reagan also embraced the faith-based belief that God's plan for Man was freedom as well as the populism of Andrew Jackson, who understood innately that the only system that worked must include, as Reagan said, "maximum freedom consistent with law and order."

One is hard pressed to believe that Obama thinks such thoughts though simpering elitists like Paul McCarthy have bought into the hype and propaganda about Obama. Can anyone recall Obama ever quoting a Founding Father or a great philosopher? Reagan quoted the Roman Emperor Diocletian. Diocletian!

Of more immediate concern are the incessant comparisons between 1982 and 2010. In fact, there is no comparison, mainly because even though Reagan's popularity had sagged and support for Reaganomics had fallen, when pressed, in all the polling data, the American people still believed in Reagan's prescriptions.

Today, the American people don't believe in Obama's plan and by overwhelming numbers, too, oppose everything he has sponsored over the past two years.

After 1982, Reagan didn't need to "move to the left." He stuck to his guns by staying the course, the theme of that off-year election. Is anyone urging Obama to "stay the course?"

Reagan's plan eventually came to fruition beginning in January of 1983 when the economy created one million new jobs. The Washington Post thought this was so significant, it was not even reported in the front section of the paper, let alone the front page.

His plan resulted in 96 months of unbroken economic growth, the creation of 18 million new jobs, the eradication of inflation and high interest rates and, to boot, non-defense federal spending fell by nearly 14 percent on his watch.

He also used the veto pen more than any president since Ike.

Let's see if Obamanomics creates one million new jobs next January. Just like Reagan?

Oh, please.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The biggest difference is what was of the utmost importance for each man in their first year as POTUS.

Reagan focused on the economy.

Owe-bama didn't.

Reagan's poll numbers were similiar at this point to a degree to Owe-bama's today.

But the impact of Owe-bama choosing to focus on Liberal Ideological driven 'great society' crap is coming home to roost now. The economy cannot recover to the extent Owe-bama requires to get reelected. I say this based on experience. It takes 18 months to two full years for any legislation designed (correctly) to jump start a capitalism based economy. See Reagan for a prime example, but also W and JFK.

When you compare these era's, and the timeline...you see 18 - 24 months before the economy begins to boom.

This observation isn't 'political' its economics 101, and backed up by a undeniable historical record.

Owe-bama made a CHOICE. He got what he wanted.

In 2012, he will get fired as a result.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   10:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#0)

The difference:

The US was riding high with World Oil Production.

We thought Deficits mattered.

And we had almost zero Debt Derivatives.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   10:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

The Peak Oil Crisis: The Leading Edge by Tom Whipple 4.5 Average: 4.5 (2 votes)

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Do you remember the furor over drilling for oil in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge a few years back? The whole country was up in arms. At various times some 50 to 60 percent of Americans favored drilling in the area as they were told this would result in lower gas prices.

Last week the USGS lowered its estimate of the amount of oil that could be extracted from the region all the way from 10 billion barrels down to less than one billion, making drilling in the area uneconomical. By the way, the amount of crude being pumped down the Alaskan pipeline now has fallen from 2 million barrels a day (b/d) when the pipeline first opened back in the 1970's to about 600,000 b/d in recent weeks. The trouble is that when the flow of oil falls below a quantity estimated to be 200-300,000 b/d (some say 500,000) the line will have to be closed as there will simply not be enough hot oil being sent down the pipeline to keep it from freezing in winter.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   10:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Our immediate problem, however, started in earnest with the industrial revolution about 200 years ago when we first started digging up prodigious quantities of coal and feeding it into steam engines. It wasn't long before we struck oil and the rest is history. The world's population went from an estimated 5 or 10 million when we first started farming, to a billion when we started serious coal digging, to about 7 billion today. We also got incredibly richer in terms of material goods and could sure get around much faster.

Nixon hit the Top of Us Power when he defaulted on Gold.

Reagan stretched it by creating $1.5 Quadrillion in debt derivatives and forcing the world to accept them as cash equivalents.

Obama now prints $ out of air and the Empire collapses.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-05   10:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#0)

He left no mess but instead,

After 1982, Reagan didn't need to "move to the left." He stuck to his guns by staying the course, the theme of that off-year election. Is anyone urging Obama to "stay the course?"

Tax Increases
Billions of Dollars
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982
+57.3
Highway Revenue Act of 1982
+4.9
Social Security Amendments of 1983
+24.6
Railroad Retirement Revenue Act of 1983
+1.2
Deficit Reduction Act of 1984
+25.4
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
+2.9
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
+2.4
Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986
+0.6
Continuing Resolution for 1987
+2.8
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987
+8.6
Continuing Resolution for 1988
+2.0
Total cumulative tax increases
+132.7
 Source: Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 1990 (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1989), p. 4-4.
 

His plan resulted in 96 months of unbroken economic growth, the creation of 18 million new jobs, the eradication of inflation and high interest rates and, to boot, non-defense federal spending fell by nearly 14 percent on his watch.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-05   10:38:16 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#1)

Reagan focused on the economy.

Owe-bama didn't.

(this doesn't include the 150,000 jobs created in October of 2010.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-05   10:48:38 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#0)

He left no mess

Not true. His amnesty for illegal alien invaders grew far beyond the estimates, and spurred a new wave of illegal immigration, in addition to chain migration of the new immigrants relatives. We're still living with that legacy, and losing elections because of it. In the Atzlan history books Reagan will be featured as the dumb gringo who put the Reconquistas over the top.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-05   13:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#7)

He left no mess

Economy, not policy, is the point of comparision between Owe-bama and Reagan.

I don't dispute Amnesty was a failure. Irritates me some alleged 'Republicans' like Grahamnesty can't learn from one of the few mistakes Reagan made.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   13:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#6)

1.6 GDP when Reagan took office.

Two years later it was over 10 from what I understand.

First Rule of Holes is now in effect.

Game, set, and match.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   13:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mcgowanjm, Badeye (#2)

The difference:

Reagan didn't have to evacuate the Gulf Coast and deal with millions of deaths as a result of a oil catastrophe, correct mcclown?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-05   15:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)

rotflmao!

The database is a wonderful thing, eh?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   15:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#11)

The database is a wonderful thing, eh?

Mcclown must be posting from a mental institution. His convoluted posts and rampant missed predictions of doom are those of a psychotic.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-05   16:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ibluafartsky (#12)

Reminds me of Arator, circa 2003 at LP actually.

Arator about the Iraq invasion, and a dust storm:

'We're in big, big trouble!'

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-05   16:02:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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