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Title: Rep. Bachus: Obama might 'force' GOP to shut down government
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The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... ce-gop-to-shut-down-government
Published: Nov 2, 2010
Author: The Hill
Post Date: 2010-11-02 12:41:01 by go65
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Views: 19414
Comments: 31
A top House Republican said Monday President Obama might try to force a government shutdown to hurt Republicans. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.), the top GOP member of the influential House Financial Services Committee, said Republicans should be prepared to be "brave" in the face of a shutdown. “I would think when we send the spending bills to the president he will veto them, and then the hard vote will be when he sends them back and we will be faced with another situation where he will probably try to force us to shut government down and we are going to have to be brave this time," Bachus explained on the Fox Business Network. Republicans are optimistic they will retake control of the House in Tuesday's elections, setting up a showdown between Obama and the GOP on taxes and spending, among other issues. Bachus could be chairman of the key committee if he's able to successfully fend of a challenge to his position when Republicans choose committee spots after the election. GOP leaders have said repeatedly they don't wish to force a shutdown, reminiscent of 1995's short shutdowns that resulted from an impasse between President Clinton and congressional Republicans, who suffered politically over the incident. "I don't think this country is desirous of seeing a government that shuts down," House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said on Friday. "I think that the people want to see a government that does what the people expect it to do, which is to limit itself in scope and to reduce spending and to reduce the uncertainty that this economy is suffering under right now." But Bachus's comments on Monday hint at early Republican posturing over a shutdown they might not necessarily want, but could be forced into if Obama takes a hard-line stance against congressional Republicans next year. Bachus sought to shoulder Obama with the blame and prevent the GOP from being tarred by a Democratic president. That was Clinton's tactic. "We wouldn't be shutting it down. We would be cutting out the excessive spending. And if the president wanted to shut the government down — but we would not shut the government down," he said. "But what we would do, we wouldn't allow him to force us to spend taxpayer dollars that don't need to be spent."
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#1. To: All (#0)
Just like Poland "forced" Germany to invade in 1939.....
You on the Left sure have a facination with Nazi Germany. Its bizzare.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
this comes from a guy who's party endorses those who like to dress up in SS uniforms? OK.
Yep, it does come from me. For almost a decade your sides been tossing around 'Bushitler' crap. You really want to go down the 'party endorses' path? You kept a Klucker in the Senate for 51 years. Game, set and match.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
signs from a tea party rally: And: The host of ABC Network’s Mark Levin Show (12/16/09) called the healthcare plan “Hitleresque.” Nothing new for Levin, who has been comparing Obama to Hitler since the campaign (10/29/08): “[Obama’s] really into these big German-like events that he creates in this country.” When the president wanted to speak to students early in September, Michael Savage, host of Talk Radio Network’s Savage Nation, cried indoctrination: “Hitler had the Hitler Youth and Obama would like to have the Obama Youth,” Savage said (11/25/08), adding that our country is “50 leagues below the degeneracy that brought about Hitler.” Savage (8/10/09) has fomented conspiracies of “internment camps,” claiming Obama plans to round up American citizens. Now what stupid point were you trying to make again?
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
You should be embarrassed, but democrats apparently have no conscience. You should be embarrassed, but Republicans apparently have no conscience.
You're a racist besides being a dumbass? Strom Thurmond (R.-S.C.). Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in the book, A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University. As a further testament to his impeccable credentials, Professor Foner is only the second person to serve as president of the three major professional organizations: the Organization of American Historians, American Historical Association, and Society of American Historians. Democrats in the last century did not hide their connections to the Ku Klux Klan. Georgia-born Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan wrote on page 21 of the September 1928 edition of the Klan's The Kourier Magazine: "I have never voted for any man who was not a regular Democrat. My father … never voted for any man who was not a Democrat. My grandfather was …the head of the Ku Klux Klan in reconstruction days…. My great- grandfather was a life-long Democrat…. My great-great-grandfather was…one of the founders of the Democratic party." Dr. Foner in his book explores the history of the origins of Ku Klux Klan and provides a chilling account of the atrocities committed by Democrats against Republicans, black and white.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Dems supported the CSA in the Civil War, and filibustered the Civil Rights legislation in the 60's.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
HIstory also shows the GOP used to support civil rights. Now, they call the CRA unconstitutional.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Racial discrimination is illegal. [Except when the GOVERNMENT does it.]
Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
Dems continue with the 50% of Americans are the enemy line. Good. Keep doing it every election. :)
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Budget was due Oct 1 and the Dems cowardly punted. Will Obama's 200 Million dollar A DAY Mumbai Express card be declined?
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Dems continue with the 50% of Americans are the enemy approach. I love that they still don't' see what's happened.
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That's sorta true. Them KKK types called themselves Democrats cause they was mad at Lincoln for freeing the slaves. For 100 years they were a thorn in the side of the Democrat party, earning the name boll weevil, after the destructive, invasive beetle. After Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act them boll weevils was mad at Johnson and the Democrats too. They decided to call themselves Republicans again (cause Lincoln had been dead for a century and Johnson was still treading upon the earth) and the Republican party welcomed them home with hugs and sympathy. So, yes, the KKK were Democrat (in name only) terrorists, but now have taken on the name Republican and the Republicans are glad to have them.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
You have a warped sense of reality Lucy. The Democrats elected the former Klansman and loved him.
Boll weevil: Politically, a boll weevil is a term used to describe conservative Southern Democrats. The name derives from the boll weevil insect, a beetle that infests cotton plants in the South. www.uta.fi/FAST/GC/poliglos.html ...with the passage of the 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States (which outlawed slavery), the 14th Amendment (which granted full U.S. citizenship to African Americans) and the 15th amendment (which extended the right to vote to black males), African Americans in the South began to enjoy more rights than they had ever had in the region. By the 1890s, though, a political backlash against these rights developed in the South. Organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan, a clandestine organization sworn to perpetuate white supremacy, used lynchings, cross burnings and other forms of violence and intimidation to keep African Americans from exercising their political rights, while the Jim Crow laws were created to legally do the same thing. It would not be until the late 1960s that these changes would be undone by the American Civil Rights Movement. Solid South refers to the electoral support of the Southern United States for Democratic Party candidates for nearly a century after the Reconstruction era (1877-1964). Except for 1928, when candidate Al Smith, a Catholic, ran on the Democratic ticket, Democratic candidates won by large margins in the South in every presidential election from 1876 until 1948 (even in 1928, the divided South provided Smith with nearly three-fourths of his electoral votes). Beginning about 1950, the national Democratic Party's support of the civil rights movement significantly reduced Southern support for the Democratic Party and allowed the Republican Party to make gains in the South by way of its "Southern strategy." Today, the South is considered a stronghold of the Republican Party. ... In 1948, a group of Democratic congressmen, led by Governor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, split from the Democrats in reaction to an anti-segregation speech given by Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota, founding the States Rights Democratic or Dixiecrat Party. During that year's Presidential election, the party unsuccessfully ran Thurmond as its candidate. ... In 1968, Democratic Alabama Governor George C. Wallace ran for President on the American Independent Party ticket. Wallace ran a "law and order" campaign similar to that of Republican candidate, Richard Nixon. While Nixon won, Wallace won a number of Southern states. This inspired Nixon and other Republican leaders to create the Southern Strategy of winning Presidential elections. This strategy focused on securing the electoral votes of the U.S. Southern states by having candidates promote culturally conservative values, such as family issues, religion, and patriotism, which appealed strongly to Southern voters. en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/1233240 I'm old. I remember. I also went to school when history and the US Constitution were taught. Perhaps you've been hoodwinked into believing this sanitized version of southern conservatism, but those of us old enough to remember ain't buying it. Us bleeding heart liberals shed literal and figurative blood for blacks in the segregated south - back then we were called n****-lovers. Or perhaps you're one of the hoodwinkers.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Bullshit! KKK Byrd was a DEMOCRAT!
Yes he was, but you would have to be a complete iblufartsky to ignore the reversal of democrats and republicans on civil rights after 1968.
Aren't you democrats the baby killers?
Yep. Thats okay. Nancy Pelosi's 'House' got foreclosed on last night (chuckle)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Does Badeye know you're working to pin the evil tag on Democrats. Southern white conservatives lynched, raped, beat, and did their best to banish blacks from mainstream American life. Call them Democrats if you wish, regardless of party label, they were white and CONSERVATIVE. Reaching into the past and trying to lay the sins of the southern past at the feet of liberals is a BIG MISTAKE. It only serves to bring to mind the atrocities people calling themselves conservative are capable of.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
They weren't 'conservatives'. The absolutely, positively were DEMOCRATS. Thats not disputable. Bobby KKK Byrd is a prime example...and nobody called him 'conservative' for good reason. he wasn't. Liberals/progressives believe in eugenics...and blacks were targeted as 'undesirables' by them for the past 150 years. Look up Margaret Sanger for a prime example.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Margaret Sanger was a registered Republican in the north. Keep digging.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Liberals/progressives believe in eugenics...and blacks were targeted as 'undesirables' by them for the past 150 years. Look up Margaret Sanger for a prime example. Margaret Sanger was a registered Republican in the north. Keep digging. No digging here, I know her better than you obviously do. I don't have time to spend today disputing 'goofy's home planet view' today. What you claimed above is simply revisionist history. You are welcome to it, goofy. Me? I have things in the real world as it is that are of more interest.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Birds of a feather flock together. What you claimed above is simply revisionist history. You are welcome to it, goofy. Is it? How do you know unless you do your own work instead of relying on propaganda? Me? I have things in the real world as it is that are of more interest. ROTFLOL That's a first.
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
rotfl. Whatever goofy
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#2. To: go65 (#1)
#3. To: Badeye (#2)
You on the Left sure have a facination with Nazi Germany. Its bizzare.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#4. To: go65 (#3)
#5. To: Badeye (#4)
(Edited)
Yep, it does come from me. For almost a decade your sides been tossing around 'Bushitler' crap.
Fox News Radio’s Tom Sullivan played a side-by-side comparison of a Hitler speech and an Obama speech (2/11/08), and Clear Channel’s Bill Cunningham, who has made similar comparisons (10/28/08), declared on his Cincinnati-based radio show (10/30/08) that “Jews [were] for McCain because Obama wants to gas the Jews, like the PLO wants to gas the Jews, like the Nazis gassed the Jews.” (The website of the group Media Matters, which extensively monitors right-wing electronic media, documents many of these examples.) Ann Coulter, as a guest on Hannity and Colmes (4/3/08), called Obama’s autobiography a “dime store Mein Kampf.” When Alan Colmes asked her if Obama was a “two-bit Hitler,” Coulter agreed. Colmes then asked: “We should be as wary of Obama as they should have been of Hitler in Nazi Germany?” Coulter admonished, “If only people had read Mein Kampf.”
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#6. To: go65 (#5)
Yep, it does come from me. For almost a decade your sides been tossing around 'Bushitler' crap.
#7. To: Badeye (#6)
this comes from a guy who's party endorses those who like to dress up in SS uniforms?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#8. To: go65 (#5)
Now what stupid point were you trying to make again?
#9. To: Ibluafartsky (#8)
(Edited)
"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either,""
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#10. To: go65 (#9)
You should be embarrassed, but Republicans apparently have no conscience.
#11. To: go65 (#7)
Yep, it does come from me. For almost a decade your sides been tossing around 'Bushitler' crap.
#12. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)
History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in the book, A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University.
#13. To: Badeye (#12)
History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in the book, A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#14. To: go65 (#13)
History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in the book, A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University.
#15. To: go65 (#13)
Now, they call the CRA unconstitutional.
#16. To: go65 (#1)
Just like Poland "forced" Germany to invade in 1939.....
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#17. To: go65 (#0)
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#18. To: Badeye (#2)
You on the Left sure have a fascination with Nazi Germany. It's bizarre.
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#19. To: Ibluafartsky (#10)
History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party.
#20. To: lucysmom (#19)
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)
You have a warped sense of reality Lucy.
#22. To: lucysmom (#19)
the KKK were Democrat (in name only) terrorists
#23. To: Ibluafartsky, lucysmom (#22)
Bullshit! KKK Byrd was a DEMOCRAT!
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#24. To: go65 (#23)
ignore the reversal of democrats and republicans on civil rights after 1968.
#25. To: WhiteSands (#17)
Budget was due Oct 1 and the Dems cowardly punted.
#26. To: Ibluafartsky, Badeye, go65, AKA Stone (#24)
Aren't you democrats the baby killers?
#27. To: lucysmom (#26)
Southern white conservatives lynched, raped, beat, and did their best to banish blacks from mainstream American life. Call them Democrats if you wish, regardless of party label, they were white and CONSERVATIVE.
#28. To: Badeye (#27)
Liberals/progressives believe in eugenics...and blacks were targeted as 'undesirables' by them for the past 150 years. Look up Margaret Sanger for a prime example.
#29. To: lucysmom (#28)
#30. To: Badeye (#29)
No digging here, I know her better than you obviously do.
#31. To: lucysmom (#30)
Is it? How do you know unless you do your own work instead of relying on propaganda?
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