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Published: Nov 2, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-11-02 09:21:50 by go65
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All the talking is done, today is the voting, tomorrow is the spinning. Discuss! ------- FWIW, I voted about 8 AM this morning, there was absolutely no line and I was in and out in 5 minutes. In 2008 I waited a good 20 minutes to vote.
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Vote only for the Local Props/sheriffs. The system itself is structurally antagonistic toward citizen well-being and public interest policy. Congressional legislation will address these only under duress, only where circumstances force this upon it. And legislation will move to rescind any such concession on the parts of the elites the moment circumstances allow. The Fact that the Dems were given an OVer All Mandate to TOTALLY diss the GOP and did Less Than 0 with that Mandate, tells you everything you need to know. 8D
Lets add our predictions here. 70 plus House Seats, 10 or more Senate seats go GOP. voted at 7:30AM this morning, #17 in my tiny rural community, which is the 'norm' here, given its farm country, and the county's entire population is only 45,000 or so. Made sure to thank the poll workers for asking for a photo ID, and for doing what they do. I LOVE this day.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Afghan Police Unit Defects en Masse to Taliban Side By DEXTER FILKINS and SHARIFULLAH SAHAK November 1, 2010 KABUL, Afghanistan — For months, American and Afghan officials have been promoting a plan to persuade masses of rank-and-file Taliban fighters to change sides and join the government. The tactic, known as "reintegration," is one of the big hopes for turning the tide in the war. But the Taliban, it appears, have reintegration plans of their own. On Monday morning, they claimed to have put them into effect." The only thing the Imperial City respects.
in virginia we have 3 constitutional amendments on the ballot. the first allows localities rather than the state to set guidelines for property tax exemptions for seniors/disabled, the second allows for property tax exemptions for veterans disabled in the line of duty, the third allows the state to increase the size of its reserve fund.
Exactly wrong. The 1st creates even more loopholes for the wealthy. The 2nd does the same. The only ones left to pay, especially in VA, would be the disappearing Middle Class. The 3rd is exactly the wrong thing for VA to do. Pay down it's debt to Zero.
538's final prediction is pretty close to Cook - 50-60 seats in the House swing to the GOP along with 6-8 Senate seats, with potential for either far less or far more. Cook adjusted their Senate forecast toward one more Democratic seat.
If we look at the circumstance of how much government elites must respond to the will of the people, as Rudolf Rocker says this is always a function of how assertive the people are, from the bottom up. Only direct action ever spurred legislative change. All worthwhile legislation was just a formal validation of existing facts on the ground. And the system will always rescind this validation the moment it believes this citizen-imposed fact on the ground no longer exists. Note that Obama had simply to sit on his hands and DADT becomes law. That O couldn't even bring himself to veto the BankForeclureNotarization Bill. A Pocket Veto instead. That the US is fighting CA tooth and nail over the Marijuana Vote.
Good morninng! It's a beautiful day, the three of us are taking the day to vote, and treat ourselves to dinner out ... Reading some of the posts today should prove to be intesting too...&;-)
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Peak Oil, Climate Heat, USbp Ecocide, Genocide Iraq as a Theocracy forms. Every time you hear about a TERRORBOMB plot, think this is as close as your state will come to addressing ANY of the above. TELL me one thing the GOP plans to do when it 'gets in charge' of the state. Release Pollard? LMFAO The US Empire crashes. Our Markets are on life support. Our ALLies desert us as our jobs get sent overseas and those that stay pay Chinese wages.
Where the rotten system empowers only two gangs espousing the same ideology, anyone outside this ideology, and all of its victims, is disenfranchised. When the non-rich submit to ”the vote”, they really just let a phony vote be palmed off on them. It’s like buying a raffle ticket where the prize doesn’t exist, because the organizers already stole it. I'm voting only for the Sheriff. Cause he's the guy who's in charge of Foreclosures. 8D
Oil. I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it. Barton apologizing to bp and OMFGPalin 'Drill, baby, drill.' That's it.
I know. He's wrong....(Laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Goodmorning Murron! Won't be able to see the posts after 5PM today. Planning on picking up a snack tray for tonight, always have a party at my house on election day.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Note the Voter Turnout today. It’s typical that the turnout = legitimacy argument only goes one way. If enough voters turn out, the hacks and flacks will claim that legitimates the system. But if not enough turn out, they’ll implicitly (or in some cases explicitly) say in effect the voters aren’t worthy of the system. That’s a basic distinction between a liberal and a true democrat. There’s no level of voter turnout which could be so low that the liberal would admit that prima facie the government is illegitimate. Where it comes to such things, a liberal will always side with the government.
If I were a little closer I would be there myself...have a great day!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
And of course any and ALL can now tell me about that FAMOUS Grassroots Campaign that placed E Voting Machines across the nation, NO Expense spared. LMFAO "But if you must vote on a Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, usually touch-screen) system, and have problems in the process, here is... What to do if it happens to you: * Call poll supervisors to observe the problem. * Fill out a problem report. * Refuse to vote on that machine. * Request that the machine be taken out of service. * Get a serial number of the machine if possible (may be difficult in many cases). * Tell other voters in line which machine it was and that they should NOT vote on that machine! * Report it to county/town election office. * Report it to the Secretary of State. * Call local reporters and tell them the story. * Call voter problem hotlines (eg. 866-OUR-VOTE) and report it. * Contact bloggers and Election Integrity websites. * Raise holy hell. REMINDER: Please bring a video camera/cell phone camera when you go to vote so you can document these problems on video tape. By Brad Friedman on 11/2/2010 4:05am PT
I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it. A third party candidate (American Constitution Party) Tom Tancredo. Clean coal, oil and gas, and cut government subsidies for "green" tech that doesn't work. If it worked, they wouldn't need subsidies. When Tancredo/Palin are elected Prez/VP on the Constitution Party ticket in 2012, they may just drill an oil well in your neighborhood, then you can keep your eye on it. 8) Colorado's oil and gas industry had been hit hard by the onerous regulations inflicted on them by the environmental special interest groups supported by John Hickenlooper and Bill Ritter. The cost has hit most Colorado residents through higher prices for basic utilities and has cost thousands of jobs in the last few years. The insistences on the taxpayer funded "green jobs" initiative has created very few new jobs relative to those lost in the important energy sectors of Colorado. There are hard working people on the Western Slope who have families to feed working for clean coal and natural gas companies who have had that opportunity ripped out from under them. [snip]
Having a ball already.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Energy cannot be subsidized. You only lower the EROEI trying. Colorado Oil/Gas gets everything it wants. The problem is a negative EROEI. When extrapolating the aftermath of local oil production declines to global Peak Oil, the unstated assumption is that the global economy will continue to function with uncanny smoothness at the level of demand that can be met, while unmet demand will be cleanly washed off into the gutter by a strong, steady stream of economic and political nonsense. This will all sort itself out spontaneously with rational market participants responding to price signals and deciding at each instant whether they should: A. continue consuming oil in the manner to which they have become accustomed, or B. quietly wander off and die without calling attention to themselves or making a fuss.
And the above is more info than you're ever gonna get from your pol &/or MSM.
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Report: Israel PM offers to trade freeze for US spy Ma'an news November 1, 2010 Ma’an - JERUSALEM – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has suggested to US President Barack Obama to free Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in exchange for extending settlement freeze in the West Bank for 60 days, an Israeli news site reported Saturday. And this Pollard must really be a Big Swingin' Mossad dick. The Navy will not let him out w/o a....I can't imagine. ;}
I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it. I think you can add the jolly little wars to your list.
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
And thank you, SI. ;} As I peer through the fog and attempt to see visions of things to be, I see nothing but pain ahead. Anyone who can look at the following chart and not conclude that there is much pain ahead for this country is either a Goldman Sachs banker, a Federal Reserve Governor, or a bought off politician in Washington DC. It is no coincidence that after Richard Nixon closed the gold window in 1971 and allowed the Federal Reserve to “manage” our economy that total debt outstanding in the US surged from $2 trillion to over $50 trillion. ©©The Chinese dragon has its glittering eye on Ireland: Ireland May Have Just One Month to Stave Off Bailout Danger: Euro Credit. China is even helping Iceland get bailed out. All of this at a cost: they must become part of the new Chinese empire. But then, the US can’t bail out anyone since our own economic ship is sinking. And we have no ‘money’ to spare since most of it is focused on making Israel impregnable rather than the US impregnable." http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-suicide-painless The U.S. military knows we are on the verge of an oil crisis. There are no new supplies ready to come on line before 2015. The President and his advisors know that an oil crisis is in our immediate future. We have military bases in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Kuwait. We have active fighting forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We have a naval armada of aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Our forces completely encircle Iran. Is this a coincidence when the countries with the largest oil reserves in the world are noted? 1. Saudi Arabia – 262 billion barrels 2. Iran – 133 billion barrels 3. Iraq – 112 billion barrels 4. Kuwait – 97 billion barrels The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
And a btw: The Fellow's Quote above assumes that the OPEC Reserve numbers are accurate. They are not. Cut them in 1/2 at least.
Ex-the Saudis have been pumping 9 mbpd for the last 40 years and yet their reserves magically stay the same.
I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it. I challenge you to update us on the evacuation of the Gulf Coast and the death toll as a result of Obama's oil disaster, mcclown! Can anybody or does anybody want to assist mcclown? He seems to be in dire need of help. Maybe psychiatric treatment would be beneficial.
Charles Cook, editor and publisher of the Cook Political Report: "The Democrats will lose 20-25 in the House; four to five in the Senate. I'm seeing softening for Democrats in key Senate races, such as Virginia. Anti -incumbency, despondency among Democratic voters and a galvanization of GOP voters are the overarching trends. Democrats are disillusioned with Clinton; Republicans hate him and will turn out in droves. The GOP vote is coming home and it's hardening earlier than usual." Stuart Rothenberg, editor and publisher of the Rothenberg Report, a political newsletter: "The Democrats will lose 24-26 seats in the House; three to five in the Senate. They're vulnerable in the South and in traditionally Republican districts in the North that they've been able to hold in the past by splitting the Republicans. However, President Clinton's unpopularity is uniting the GOP. This isn't a particularly ideological election, though. It's just insiders versus outsiders, and Democrats are the insiders right now. Voters remain skeptical about the role of government, another negative for Democrats. Clinton has tried to alter this widespread mistrust of governmental activism, but he hasn't succeeded." Larry Sabato, professor of government at the University of Virginia: "My slogan has always been: 'He who lives by the Crystal Ball ends up eating ground glass.' Nevertheless, it looks like Democrats will be lucky to lose only 24-25 seats in the House and four in the Senate. Much of it hinges on President Clinton's popularity. Many of these elections are turning into a referendum on Bill Clinton, as is usually the case with mid-term elections and the President in power. About a half dozen Senate races will be decided with less than two percent of the vote. So last-minute trends will matter. Clinton could bounce back, as he's done in the past, and that could reduce Democratic losses. I don't think his approval rating will sink any lower than about 35 percent; that's his floor and he's close to it now. If anything, I think his popularity might rise a little bit between now and election day. When all is said and done, there's only one thing we know for sure: the Democrats will lose a lot of seats in both Houses." The other analysts' predictions cited in the piece were 25 House seats (Jack Germond), 20-25 seats (Gloria Borger), 25 seats (Cokie Roberts), and 25 seats (William Schneider). Notice a pattern? Of course that's not what happened—instead Republicans ended up shocking the world with a 54-seat gain and their first House majority in 40 years. The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect. Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Agreed. SIlver published two separate pieces showing why Republican gains could be much larger or much smaller than predicted.
Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT. Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout. If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted. We'll see.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So is Cook, Sabato, etc. We'll see in a few hours. We'll see in a few hours.
8D I voted for Sheriff and most (not all) of the other local offices when I knew about the candidates. I expect Rand Paul to win by 10 points tonight here in Kentucky.
Today I noticed something I hadn't noticed in the past at the polling stations. They had yellow signs up that said no cell phones were authorized in the room, except for those working the polls. They didn't have these signs up at the entrance to the building so I suspect there was lax enforcement - I'll guess most voters were in and out in 15 minutes or less. I'm still asking myself why no cell phones in 2010 in the polls????
The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East." That makes the most obvious sense.
i noticed two things - a campaigner for our Republican challenger for the house offering candy at 8:15 AM to a little girl walking with her mom to the entrance. The mom looked at him with an "are you freaking crazy" look. - no "I voted" stickers this year due to county budget cuts.
Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).
My Prediction: 70 plus House Seats go GOP. 10 Senate Seats go GOP. See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
i've now gotten 4 calls and one knock on my door from our Dem. Rep's campaign today. They visited our home 3 other times in the last week. Meanwhile, we got one door hanging in the same time from the Republican challenger, and this is a district that flipped to the Democrats in 2008 after 14 years of GOP control. --- EDIT - just got call #5 from the Democrats campaign.
Election night spin bingo card: first round of calls based on exit polling: Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D) Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D) North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D) Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)
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Pence, Burton, and Rogers declared winners of House seats in Indiana and Kentucky by Politico. All Republicans. Rand Paul up by 10% with .4% of the vote in.
70 plus House Seats go GOP. 10 Senate Seats go GOP. See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last. 62 GOP gains in the House 8 GOP gains in the Senate
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
PAUL WINS: The AP has called the Kentucky Senate race for Rand Paul.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
LUNTZ CALLS IT FOR REID: GOP polling guru Frank Luntz is predicting Republicans will win seven Senate seats and 50 House spots, based on exit polls he had seen. On a conference call with associates from K Street, Luntz also said he thinks Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will win reelection. http://www.politico.com/hp/wbarchive/whiteboard11022010.html
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
The networks have called Sen Dan Coats (R) the winner of the Indiana Senate race; that is the first GOP pickup
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Luntz is frequently wrong. His "focus groups" are stacked.
Leahy declared winner in VT. First blue spot on map (D).
Hoping you are right. I want Reid the hell out of the leadership, if not the Senate.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
GOP strong in IN2, IN8 and IN9 - could be the first seats to go to the GOP tonight in the race for the House
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
# House results: VA5 Robert Hurt (R) leads Rep Tom Perriello (D) 56-42%; Rep Rick Boucher (D) trails 54-43 in VA 9 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck 4% in from Florida Senate - Rubio 43%, Crist 39%, Meek 16% 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck 38% in from KY6 and Rep Ben Chandler (D) leads Andy Barr (R) 52-47; Rep John Yarmuth (D) up 52-46% in KY3 9 minutes ago via TweetDeck DEMS strong in Kentucky still, leading in both KY3 and KY6; Rand Paul (R) already declared Senate winner in KY
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
I predict the Republicans will pick up 70 seats in the house. The Senate will be divided 51 49 either way.
In Florida, Republican Dan Webster is up big over Rep Alan Grayson (D) 63-29% with 6% of the vote in
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Allen West(R) is up by 10% in FL.
Nate Silver: more exit polls: Coons beats O'Donnell in Delaware
# IN8 and IN9 still trending for the GOP 1 minute ago via TweetDeck INDIANA turnaround - Rep Joe Donnelly (D) has fought back to lead by 2,000 votes with 55% in from IN2 1 minute ago via TweetDeck No Red Tide in Kentucky House races, as Dems hold KY3 (Rep Yarmuth); KY6 very close, as Rep Chandler leads 51-49 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck GOP leading in VA2 (Nye), VA5 (Perriello), VA9 (Boucher), VA11 (Connolly) 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck In FL24, Sandy Adams (R) has early lead over Rep Suzanne Kosmas (D); Alan Grayson down 57-37% in FL8 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck GA2 gives early lead to Mike Keown(R) over Rep Sanford Bishop 55-44%; Rep Jim Marshall (D) trailing in GA early 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck AP also declaring Chris Coons the winner in the Delaware Senate race 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck Networks declaring Marco Rubio (R) the winner of the Florida Senate race 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck 22% in Florida Governor's race and Rick Scott (R) leads Alex SInk (D) 51-45% 10 minutes ago via TweetDeck 44% in from VA5 as Rep Tom Perriello (D-VA) is losing 54-43%; 27% in VA9 where Rep Rick Boucher (D) trails 52-45 10 minutes ago via TweetDeck Bottom Line right now - GOP winning seats in Indiana, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina - good early signs for them
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
538's model is up to a 57 seat gain - Boucher losing in Virginia is bad news for the Democrats, he has held that seat for something like 20 years. Mike Castle's seat in DE goes to the Democrats.
Iott (the Nazi re-enactor) loses in Ohio, despite a recent appearance by John Boehner on his behalf.
Wayyyy too early, but could Badeye's nightmare come true?
39 more for control.
Democrat John Lynch retains the NH Governor's mansion
FL-24 goes to the GOP, GOP now +1 overall.
Boozman wins AR Senate, 2nd GOP pickup.
Manchin up 11 in WV with 10% in.
Blumenthal Bests McMahon For Conn. Senate Seat
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Machin wins WV Senate. Ayotte wins NH Senate
CNN exit poll in PA has Toomey up 51-49, within the margin of error.
As of now, GOP up 2 in the Senate, but control is almost out of reach. GOP up 5 in the House. 538 model shows 55-56 gain.
Manchin wins WV. So what's he going to do when he gets to the Senate since he had to win by throwing the Kenyan under the bus and he is a lame duck up for another election in 2 years? Do you think Obama will be inviting him on stage for teleprompter celebrations?
well, he'll caucus with the Democrats, which is probably the most important thing to them right now.
Freepers are lashing out at Karl Rove and arguing that Coons stole the election. Non-reality at its finest.
he'll caucus with the Democrats, which is probably the most important thing to them right now. Will those Democrats be supporting the Kenyan with a 29% approval rating in WV?
models are showing a 55-57 seat gain for the GOP in the House, despite the hype, this is looking a lot more like 1994 then it is some sort of tidal wave for the GOP.
they supported him enough to give him a vote in the Senate tonight. Oh, and Manchin is up by over 10% right now.
Who's the Kenyan?
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
it's very early, but Dems are up big in PA and IL senate races.
to close to call in the race for Feingold's Senate seat in WI.
Thune, Gillibrand, Schumer, all win easily. Martin O'Malley stays Gov. or MD
Only after he threw Obama under the bus.
Andrew Cuomo wins NY Gov, another tea partier bites the dust.
He'll come up with some ultra-libs like Romney, Jindal, and Palin, and all will be forgiven. Witches aren't socialist enough for them anyway. They were only supporting her because of an R. Globalist, NWO, war mongers like Bush and McStain are what they crave. They miss Bush so.
Silver says Sestak running better than expected in PA, but Giannoulias is struggling in IL.
Philippines election: Doubts arise over electronic voting machines ... Mar 9, 2010 ... But in tests, the voting machines rejected ballots and failed to connect to the cell phone networks to transmit results. www.csmonitor.com/.../Phi...lectronic-voting-machines
4 blue dog Democrats have gone down already tonight. edit - make that 6.
Dang, James, you're good. Thanks!
Liberals are taking a beat down. I'm lovin' it!
Silver now projects a 60 seat gain for the GOP in the House. Meanwhile, in badeye's home: uh, the blue dogs are conservatives.
If they vote with the liberals or are beaten by a conservative, they aren't conservative enough. Deal with it.
Deval Patrick wins MA Gov.
Nevada is now closed.....
That's about as surprising as learning Barney Frank is a faggot!
i'm listening to talking heads on MSNBC wondering how the GOP will actually cut spending when they refuse to detail how they will cut spending. Next year is going to be very interesting.
how the GOP will actually cut spending No doubt you are! Are they crying yet? Repeal Obama's healthcare boondoggle would be a good start.
Now that they've won the House, that promise is no longer operational. Wait until 2012 when they'll bring it up again.
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
Is that the only point under your hat? I think I have read the same whine out of you for the last six months, day in and day out. Stop beating a dead horse.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
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Tancredo loses in CO GOV race. Yet another Palinite loses. If the GOP candidate finishes with less than 10%, by law the GOP gets "minor party status" and is limited in future ballot position and funds.
sestak holding a 4.5% lead with about 70% of PA precincts reporting. Kirk down in IL still as well.
Talk about beating a dead horse "Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)"
Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson
Is Sestak the Dim candidate? Hard to tell the diff betwixt the One Party System...
yes.
Palin so far: 2 wins, 5 losses, 32 TBD. Tea Party: 14 wins, 21 losses, 115 TBD
Nikki Haley wins SC-GOV.
Are you sure? Moosebreath just endorsed him yesterday.
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
538 now out to a 64-65 seat gain in the House for the Republicans.
Palin is a complete moron, not only will Tancredo lose, but he may take the entire state GOP with him for the next 4 years.
Toomey now up by about 4k votes
Another female governor endorsed by Palin. I'm lovin' it! How about Mary Fallin in Oklahoma?
Democrats just picked up LA-02, but it was expected (New Orleans area)
Russ Feingold loses in Wisconsin.
Good job on this go65. I appreciate not having to watch the gasbags on tv.
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
She's more intelligent than you two clowns!
Is Toomey a Dim or a Pubbie? I do really appreciate your updates. Keep 'em coming...
Howard Fineman reporting that the GOP will raise the debt ceiling "one last time" and blame it on Obama per Darrel Issa.
That's a surprise...to me. He was a darling of the Progressives. Who beat him?
Toomey is the Republican.
He was beaten like a bastard child in liberal Wisconsin. Looks like they'll have a GOP governor also! I'm lovin' it!
You really are a dumbshit.
If you step back and watch, they are all pretty much the same. You stupid summbitch...
To the uniformed and ignorant like you.
Agree wholeheartedly.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Boxer defeats Fiorina, Brown defeats Whitman.
thanks!
More bad news for the land of fruits, nuts and faggots!
Have a little "tea" with that and perhaps we'll have a 'party'? {{{chuckle}}}
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
exit polls showing Murray leading by 6 over Rossi, that would give the democrats at least 50 senate seats.
looks like Toomey will hold on to take Specters' seat in PA for the GOP.
Where are you finding this?
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
What party was Specter?
Scottish.
“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator
Washington state, how pathetic.
Ha ha...I remember that.
rent is 2 damn high.
Yes, Maes(R) is in the 9% range, and the GOP is about to be thrown onto the ash heap of history in Colorado. Excellent! It could all be part of a grand Palin strategy, to kill off the evil Republicans and run as a Constitution Party (or Tea Party) candidate in 2012. Sweet!
Fox just called both.
I don't remember that one. Was he the magic bullet guy?
http://www.rentistoodamnhigh.org/ turn up your speakers
Nevada results are now coming in - http://www.silverstate2010.com/ i'm signing off for the night, see you guys for the spin tomorrow.
Thanks for your updates. Good night.
eat your wheaties, asshole. I'm sure you'll NEED it, for all the spinning you're gonna' do.
Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
Better you than me lol
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
we have a close one here - about 500 votes separate the incumbent Democrat from his Republican challenger. This is a rematch of 2008 when the Democrat won by about 5k votes. Before that, the district was in GOP hands for 14 years.
My Prediction: 70 plus House Seats go GOP. 10 Senate Seats go GOP. See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last. 62 GOP gains in the House 8 GOP gains in the Senate Yep. Helluva night for the GOP. Surprised Californians and Nevadans voted to reinforce massive failure though.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Blame the tea party for promoting whack jobs. The Republicans should have won the Senate tonight save not for Buck, O'Donnell, Angle, and Miller.
Strickland was sent packing, Portman won HUGE, Chabot retook Cincinnati's district. I'm very pleased with what took place here in Ohio, with one exception. Mikey DeWine found a way back onto the government payroll, winning the State AG job. Another, closer to home race was the Brown County Commissioners race, our friend Marjorie (Democrat, btw) lost to county gadfly Rick Eagan (republican). Very disappointed, Marjorie was a huge help with our dog rescue efforts here.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
'Blame'? You've lost your mind, I'm happy as hell the Tea Party is active. They now have an undeniable good track record overall, and have changed the GOP for the better. What this grassroots effort have acheived is amazing. My view is the GOP is better off not controlling the Senate, tactically. I would have rather taken it, obviously. But by just 'coming close' it means gridlock on the insanity of this Administration as it relates to cap and tax. It also means Owe-bama gets his first truly difficult political decision in January, does he dare veto extending the 'Bush' tax cuts? In elective office, I'd rather have a Democrat than a so called 'moderate' GO. Moderates are simply rank self absorbed opportunists. No thanks. I'd rather have a politician with 'known principals' so as to plan accordingly. Basically, better off without the Mike Castle's of the world IMHO. Under the radar today...the stunning gains at the Governor's level. Owe-bama won't have a chance in hell here in Ohio in 2012, especially after redistricting. You don't win Presidential election cycles without Ohio. We both know it. All in all, a big night for the GOP, a big night for the Tea Party. And Nancy Pelosi's 'House' has now received its foreclosure notice (laughing)
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Rough night for Rasmussen as Nate Silver notes: You think keeping Harry Reid in power in Nevada and losing Colorado, Delaware and Alaska is "amazing"? Seriously? Poll after poll shows the most popular position is extending the cuts for income under $250k. Obama wins that point. Again, it's all gravy until its time to raise the debt ceiling. The GOP will have to take a stand come late February or March - does it raise the debt ceiling and piss off Conservatives, or does it refuse to raise it and destroy the country. As of last night, Republican leaders were ALREADY saying they will raise it.
That's true, and yet Bill Clinton won Ohio in 1996 despite a Republican Governor.
CO usually goes red with the trend.
Silver hedged his bets...and wants to crow? rotfl! Whatever.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I think Owe-bama lost any hope of running 'against congress'. I think the Tea Party has had an amazing 18 month run thats changed politics for the better overall. I like the fact Americans are standing up and exercising their RIGHT to disagree with ANY ADMINISTRATION. I seem to recall a well known Senator named Clinton expousing this viewpoint just a couple of years ago...lol. The TP learns from its experiences. They now get a chance to catch their breath, review what worked - Rand Paul, Scott Brown, half a dozen Governorships, and review what didn't work. Its interesting to note those they backed that had little or no previous political experience did well, those that came onboard after losing previously - O'Donnell, perhaps Rossi, couple of others, didn't do well. Without the TP, the GOP would be down two Senate seats today, at a minimum. Brown and Paul. Here in Ohio, their impact is simply stunning from county level to Govenor and Senate. Not to mention they love the next Speaker of the House, John Boehner. As do I.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
With a booming economy, and a pathetic opponent in Bob 'Its my turn, damnit!' Dole, and a third party candidate. He barely won as we both know, not breaking the 50% mark in total votes, which is unusual as hell in POTUS politics, as we both know. That weird 'perfect storm' won't happen in 2012. And Owe-bama won't win Ohio anyway. He blew it.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Exactly my point - you don't know who is going to win Ohio until you know who is running. And as far as the 50% mark, you do remember that Perot ran that year, right? We both agree that things are going to get worse next year, maybe a lot worse. The GOP just took control of the House and state governments in a "tsunami" Are you telling me they won't get blamed when things get worse "AFTER" they take office?
Are you telling me they won't get blamed when things get worse "AFTER" they take office? Yep, thats EXACTLY what I'm telling you. POTUS is held accountable for the economy. It doesn't make any sense, but it is how it works with voters. They get credit (Presidents) they don't deserve intellectually when its good, they get blamed when its bad. Trying to blame the House if your POTUS for economic conditions simply won't get traction with the voters, especially the Independents. How'd that 'party of No' stuff work last night? It didn't.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
So it's "elect us and we'll cut spending and add jobs but we're not actually responsible for any of it" I really didn't think the Republicans would run away from responsibility this quick.
Yep, thats EXACTLY what I'm telling you. So it's "elect us and we'll cut spending and add jobs but we're not actually responsible for any of it" So glad to see you in the forum again, Congressman Grayson....
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Discuss!
#2. To: go65 (#0)
#3. To: All (#1)
Discuss!
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#1)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#5. To: go65 (#4)
the first allows localities rather than the state to set guidelines for property tax exemptions for seniors/disabled, the second allows for property tax exemptions for veterans disabled in the line of duty, the third allows the state to increase the size of its reserve fund.
#6. To: Badeye (#2)
(Edited)
70 plus House Seats, 10 or more Senate seats go GOP.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#7. To: All (#5)
#8. To: Badeye (#2)
I LOVE this day.
#9. To: All (#7)
#10. To: All (#9)
#11. To: All (#10)
#12. To: go65 (#6)
538's final prediction is pretty close to Cook - 50-60 seats in the House swing to the GOP along with 6-8 Senate seats, with potential for either far less or far more. Cook adjusted their Senate forecast toward one more Democratic seat.
#13. To: Murron (#8)
#14. To: All (#11)
#15. To: Badeye (#13)
#16. To: go65 (#4)
#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11)
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Oil.
09/17/2010 Revisit and revise harmful Ritter-era regulations, including the restrictive new oil and gas regulations.
#18. To: Murron (#15)
#19. To: hondo68 (#17)
#20. To: All (#19)
#21. To: go65 (#0)
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#22. To: All (#20)
#23. To: mcgowanjm (#11)
Oil.
#24. To: Skip Intro (#23)
I think you can add the jolly little wars to your list.
#25. To: All (#24)
The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
#26. To: All (#25)
The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."
#27. To: mcgowanjm, All (#11)
Oil.
#28. To: go65 (#0)
Here are excerpts from a few predictions by the major election analysts that were published in Campaigns & Elections two weeks before the 1994 midterms:
#29. To: Badeye (#28)
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The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#30. To: go65 (#29)
#31. To: Badeye (#30)
Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT.
Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout.
If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#32. To: mcgowanjm (#10)
I'm voting only for the Sheriff. Cause he's the guy who's in charge of Foreclosures.
#33. To: mcgowanjm (#16)
REMINDER: Please bring a video camera/cell phone camera when you go to vote so you can document these problems on video tape.
#34. To: mcgowanjm (#24)
1. Saudi Arabia – 262 billion barrels 2. Iran – 133 billion barrels 3. Iraq – 112 billion barrels 4. Kuwait – 97 billion barrels
#35. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#36. To: Badeye (#30)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#37. To: go65 (#36)
Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).
#38. To: Badeye (#37)
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On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#39. To: All (#38)
(Edited)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#40. To: All (#39)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#41. To: go65 (#39)
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
#42. To: go65 (#40)
(Edited)
www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010
#43. To: Badeye, ALL (#37)
My Prediction:
#44. To: All (#43)
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#46. To: All (#44)
#47. To: Brian S (#45)
Luntz also said he thinks Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will win reelection.
#48. To: go65 (#0)
#49. To: hondo68 (#47)
Luntz is frequently wrong. His "focus groups" are stacked.
#50. To: All (#49)
#51. To: All (#50)
#52. To: go65 (#0)
#53. To: All (#51)
#54. To: Brian S (#53)
#55. To: hondo68 (#54)
O.K., here's a sign that tonight might not be an apocalypse for Democrats: the Kentucky Third District, where John Yarmuth, a Democrat, had been favored but the polling had been erratic, has been called for him. The other vulnerable Democrat in Kentucky, Ben Chandler, is also leading so far in Kentucky's Sixth District. Even though Rand Paul has won the Senate race in Kentucky, I'm not sure he didn't hurt the G.O.P. at the margins down ballot.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#56. To: All (#55)
Who's to blame for the economy? Bankers (34%), Bush (29%), Obama (24%). Of those who blame bankers, Republicans hold an 11 point advantage.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#57. To: All (#56)
(Edited)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#58. To: All (#53)
#59. To: Brian S (#58)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#60. To: All (#59)
Per the exit polls, the partisan breakdown was 36% D, 36% R, and 28% I. Indies broke to the GOP 56- 39. So, all in line with the polling
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#61. To: All (#60)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#62. To: All (#61)
Hearing too close to call in PA and IL.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#63. To: Brian S, skip intro (#62)
OH-Gov -- Strickland (D) up 53, Kaisich 43 with 8% in.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#64. To: All (#63)
CBS calls it for Periello's opponent in VA-05. That's the first GOP pickup of the night.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#65. To: All (#64)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#66. To: All (#65)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#67. To: All (#66)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#68. To: All (#67)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#69. To: All (#68)
#70. To: Brian S (#69)
(Edited)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#71. To: All (#70)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#72. To: All (#71)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#73. To: go65 (#68)
#74. To: no gnu taxes (#73)
So what's he going to do when he gets to the Senate since he had to win by throwing the Kenyan under the bus and he is a lame duck up for another election in 2 years?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#75. To: Brian S (#74)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#76. To: go65 (#74)
Do you think Obama will be inviting him on stage for teleprompter celebrations?
#77. To: All (#75)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#78. To: no gnu taxes (#76)
Will those Democrats be supporting the Kenyan with a 29% approval rating in WV?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#79. To: no gnu taxes (#76)
#80. To: Skip Intro (#79)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#81. To: All (#80)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#82. To: All (#81)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#83. To: go65 (#78)
they supported him enough to give him a vote in the Senate tonight.
#84. To: All (#82)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#85. To: go65 (#75)
Freepers are lashing out at Karl Rove and arguing that Coons stole the election
#86. To: All (#84)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#87. To: Fred Mertz (#33)
I'm still asking myself why no cell phones in 2010 in the polls????
#88. To: All (#86)
(Edited)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#89. To: mcgowanjm (#87)
#90. To: go65 (#88)
make that 6.
#91. To: Skip Intro, brian S, lucysmom, badeye (#89)
Another Democrat whose results look reasonably robust early on is Ted Strickland, the incumbent governor of Ohio. Below is a side-by-side comparison of his performance this year and Barack Obama's in 2008, when he won the state by 5 points. As you can see, Mr. Strickland is performing well in essentially all of the areas where Barack Obama did, save perhaps for a little bit of weakness in the Cleveland and Cincinnati suburbs, while doing considerably better than Mr. Obama in the southwestern portion of the state. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to win, since his turnout won't be as heavy as Mr. Obama's in places like Cleveland. Still, this is the sort of pattern you might expect to see from a Democrat who ekes out a narrow victory in Ohio.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#92. To: Ibluafartsky (#90)
Liberals are taking a beat down. I'm lovin' it!
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#93. To: go65 (#92)
uh, the blue dogs are conservatives.
#94. To: All (#92)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#95. To: All (#94)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#96. To: go65 (#94)
Deval Patrick wins MA Gov.
#97. To: Ibluafartsky (#96)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#98. To: go65 (#97)
i'm listening to talking heads on MSNBC wondering
#99. To: go65 (#97)
i'm listening to talking heads on MSNBC wondering how the GOP will actually cut spending when they refuse to detail how they will cut spending. Next year is going to be very interesting.
#100. To: go65 (#97)
#101. To: Fred Mertz (#89)
#102. To: mcgowanjm (#101)
(Edited)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#103. To: All (#102)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#104. To: Rudgear (#100)
Stop beating a dead horse.
#105. To: go65 (#103)
#106. To: Fred Mertz (#105)
Is Sestak the Dim candidate?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#107. To: All (#106)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#108. To: All (#107)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#109. To: go65 (#102)
Tancredo loses in CO GOV race.
#110. To: All (#108)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#111. To: Skip Intro (#109)
Are you sure? Moosebreath just endorsed him yesterday.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#112. To: All (#103)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#113. To: go65 (#108)
Nikki Haley wins SC-GOV.
#114. To: All (#112)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#115. To: All (#114)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#116. To: go65 (#115)
#117. To: go65, Skip Intro (#111)
Palin is a complete moron,
#118. To: go65 (#112)
Toomey now up by about 4k votes
#119. To: All (#115)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#120. To: go65 (#115)
Russ Feingold loses in Wisconsin.
#121. To: Fred Mertz (#118)
Is Toomey a Dim or a Pubbie?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#122. To: go65 (#115)
Russ Feingold loses in Wisconsin.
#123. To: Fred Mertz, go65 (#118)
Is Toomey a Dim or a Pubbie?
#124. To: Ibluafartsky (#123)
#125. To: Fred Mertz (#124)
they are all pretty much the same.
#126. To: go65, Skip Intro (#116)
Good job on this go65. I appreciate not having to watch the gasbags on tv.
#127. To: (#125)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#128. To: Brian S (#126)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#129. To: go65 (#127)
Boxer defeats Fiorina, Brown defeats Whitman.
#130. To: go65 (#119)
(Edited)
Howard Fineman reporting that the GOP will raise the debt ceiling "one last time" and blame it on Obama per Darrel Issa.
#131. To: All (#128)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#132. To: All (#131)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#133. To: go65 (#127)
Boxer defeats Fiorina, Brown defeats Whitman.
#134. To: go65 (#132)
#135. To: Fred Mertz (#134)
What party was Specter?
#136. To: go65 (#131)
exit polls showing Murray leading by 6 over Rossi,
#137. To: Skip Intro (#135)
#138. To: Fred Mertz (#134)
What party was Specter?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#139. To: go65 (#102)
(Edited)
If the GOP candidate finishes with less than 10%, by law the GOP gets "minor party status" and is limited in future ballot position and funds.
#140. To: Skip Intro (#133)
Where are you finding this?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#141. To: go65 (#138)
rent is 2 damn high.
#142. To: Fred Mertz (#141)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#143. To: All (#142)
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#144. To: go65 (#143)
#145. To: go65 (#143)
i'm signing off for the night, see you guys for the spin tomorrow.
#146. To: go65 (#38)
#147. To: Badeye (#146)
Better you than me lol
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#148. To: Brian S (#43)
#149. To: Badeye (#148)
Yep. Helluva night for the GOP. Surprised Californians and Nevadans voted to reinforce massive failure though.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#150. To: go65 (#91)
Meanwhile, in badeye's home:
#151. To: go65 (#149)
Blame the tea party for promoting whack jobs. The Republicans should have won the Senate tonight save not for Buck, O'Donnell, Angle, and Miller.
#152. To: Badeye (#151)
Indeed, Rasmussen polls quite consistently turned out to overstate the standing of Republicans tonight. Of the roughly 100 polls released by Rasmussen or its subsidiary Pulse Opinion Research in the final 21 days of the campaign, roughly 70 to 75 percent overestimated the performance of Republican candidates, and on average they were biased against Democrats by 3 to 4 points.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#153. To: Badeye (#151)
You've lost your mind, I'm happy as hell the Tea Party is active. They now have an undeniable good track record overall, and have changed the GOP for the better. What this grassroots effort have acheived is amazing.
It also means Owe-bama gets his first truly difficult political decision in January, does he dare veto extending the 'Bush' tax cuts?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#154. To: Badeye (#151)
You don't win Presidential election cycles without Ohio. We both know it.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#155. To: go65 (#102)
Tancredo loses in CO GOV race.
#156. To: go65 (#152)
#157. To: go65 (#153)
You think keeping Harry Reid in power in Nevada and losing Colorado, Delaware and Alaska is "amazing"? Seriously?
#158. To: go65 (#154)
That's true, and yet Bill Clinton won Ohio in 1996 despite a Republican Governor.
#159. To: Badeye (#158)
(Edited)
With a booming economy, and a pathetic opponent in Bob 'Its my turn, damnit!' Dole, and a third party candidate. He barely won as we both know, not breaking the 50% mark in total votes, which is unusual as hell in POTUS politics, as we both know.
That weird 'perfect storm' won't happen in 2012. And Owe-bama won't win Ohio anyway. He blew it.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#160. To: go65 (#159)
We both agree that things are going to get worse next year, maybe a lot worse. The GOP just took control of the House and state governments in a "tsunami"
#161. To: Badeye (#160)
Yep, thats EXACTLY what I'm telling you.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
#162. To: go65 (#161)
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