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Title: Election Day 2010 Live Thread
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Published: Nov 2, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-11-02 09:21:50 by go65
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Comments: 162

All the talking is done, today is the voting, tomorrow is the spinning.

Discuss!

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FWIW, I voted about 8 AM this morning, there was absolutely no line and I was in and out in 5 minutes. In 2008 I waited a good 20 minutes to vote.

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#28. To: go65 (#0)

Here are excerpts from a few predictions by the major election analysts that were published in Campaigns & Elections two weeks before the 1994 midterms:

Charles Cook, editor and publisher of the Cook Political Report:

"The Democrats will lose 20-25 in the House; four to five in the Senate. I'm seeing softening for Democrats in key Senate races, such as Virginia. Anti -incumbency, despondency among Democratic voters and a galvanization of GOP voters are the overarching trends. Democrats are disillusioned with Clinton; Republicans hate him and will turn out in droves. The GOP vote is coming home and it's hardening earlier than usual."

Stuart Rothenberg, editor and publisher of the Rothenberg Report, a political newsletter:

"The Democrats will lose 24-26 seats in the House; three to five in the Senate. They're vulnerable in the South and in traditionally Republican districts in the North that they've been able to hold in the past by splitting the Republicans. However, President Clinton's unpopularity is uniting the GOP. This isn't a particularly ideological election, though. It's just insiders versus outsiders, and Democrats are the insiders right now. Voters remain skeptical about the role of government, another negative for Democrats. Clinton has tried to alter this widespread mistrust of governmental activism, but he hasn't succeeded."

Larry Sabato, professor of government at the University of Virginia:

"My slogan has always been: 'He who lives by the Crystal Ball ends up eating ground glass.' Nevertheless, it looks like Democrats will be lucky to lose only 24-25 seats in the House and four in the Senate. Much of it hinges on President Clinton's popularity. Many of these elections are turning into a referendum on Bill Clinton, as is usually the case with mid-term elections and the President in power. About a half dozen Senate races will be decided with less than two percent of the vote. So last-minute trends will matter.

Clinton could bounce back, as he's done in the past, and that could reduce Democratic losses. I don't think his approval rating will sink any lower than about 35 percent; that's his floor and he's close to it now. If anything, I think his popularity might rise a little bit between now and election day. When all is said and done, there's only one thing we know for sure: the Democrats will lose a lot of seats in both Houses."

The other analysts' predictions cited in the piece were 25 House seats (Jack Germond), 20-25 seats (Gloria Borger), 25 seats (Cokie Roberts), and 25 seats (William Schneider). Notice a pattern? Of course that's not what happened—instead Republicans ended up shocking the world with a 54-seat gain and their first House majority in 40 years.

The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.

www.thedailybeast.com/bel...east/a-midterm-flashback/

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   14:59:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Badeye (#28) (Edited)

The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.

Agreed. SIlver published two separate pieces showing why Republican gains could be much larger or much smaller than predicted.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   15:01:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: go65 (#29)

Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT.

Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout.

If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted.

We'll see.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   15:23:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#30)

Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   16:50:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: go65 (#36)

Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).

My Prediction:

70 plus House Seats go GOP.

10 Senate Seats go GOP.

See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   17:13:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Badeye, ALL (#37)

My Prediction:

70 plus House Seats go GOP.

10 Senate Seats go GOP.

See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last.

62 GOP gains in the House

8 GOP gains in the Senate

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   18:59:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: All (#43)

PAUL WINS: The AP has called the Kentucky Senate race for Rand Paul.

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:07:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#44)

LUNTZ CALLS IT FOR REID: GOP polling guru Frank Luntz is predicting Republicans will win seven Senate seats and 50 House spots, based on exit polls he had seen. On a conference call with associates from K Street, Luntz also said he thinks Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will win reelection.

http://www.politico.com/hp/wbarchive/whiteboard11022010.html

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:08:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Brian S (#45)

Luntz also said he thinks Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will win reelection.

Luntz is frequently wrong. His "focus groups" are stacked.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-02   19:14:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#47)

Luntz is frequently wrong. His "focus groups" are stacked.

Hoping you are right. I want Reid the hell out of the leadership, if not the Senate.

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:21:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

GOP strong in IN2, IN8 and IN9 - could be the first seats to go to the GOP tonight in the race for the House

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:23:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#50)

# House results: VA5 Robert Hurt (R) leads Rep Tom Perriello (D) 56-42%; Rep Rick Boucher (D) trails 54-43 in VA 9 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

4% in from Florida Senate - Rubio 43%, Crist 39%, Meek 16% 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

38% in from KY6 and Rep Ben Chandler (D) leads Andy Barr (R) 52-47; Rep John Yarmuth (D) up 52-46% in KY3 9 minutes ago via TweetDeck

DEMS strong in Kentucky still, leading in both KY3 and KY6; Rand Paul (R) already declared Senate winner in KY

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:33:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: All (#51)

In Florida, Republican Dan Webster is up big over Rep Alan Grayson (D) 63-29% with 6% of the vote in

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:33:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: All (#53)

# IN8 and IN9 still trending for the GOP 1 minute ago via TweetDeck

INDIANA turnaround - Rep Joe Donnelly (D) has fought back to lead by 2,000 votes with 55% in from IN2 1 minute ago via TweetDeck

No Red Tide in Kentucky House races, as Dems hold KY3 (Rep Yarmuth); KY6 very close, as Rep Chandler leads 51-49 2 minutes ago via TweetDeck

GOP leading in VA2 (Nye), VA5 (Perriello), VA9 (Boucher), VA11 (Connolly) 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck

In FL24, Sandy Adams (R) has early lead over Rep Suzanne Kosmas (D); Alan Grayson down 57-37% in FL8 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

GA2 gives early lead to Mike Keown(R) over Rep Sanford Bishop 55-44%; Rep Jim Marshall (D) trailing in GA early 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

AP also declaring Chris Coons the winner in the Delaware Senate race 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Networks declaring Marco Rubio (R) the winner of the Florida Senate race 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

22% in Florida Governor's race and Rick Scott (R) leads Alex SInk (D) 51-45% 10 minutes ago via TweetDeck

44% in from VA5 as Rep Tom Perriello (D-VA) is losing 54-43%; 27% in VA9 where Rep Rick Boucher (D) trails 52-45 10 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Bottom Line right now - GOP winning seats in Indiana, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina - good early signs for them

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   20:09:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Brian S (#58)

538's model is up to a 57 seat gain - Boucher losing in Virginia is bad news for the Democrats, he has held that seat for something like 20 years.

Mike Castle's seat in DE goes to the Democrats.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:12:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: All (#59)

Per the exit polls, the partisan breakdown was 36% D, 36% R, and 28% I. Indies broke to the GOP 56- 39. So, all in line with the polling

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:14:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: All (#60)

Iott (the Nazi re-enactor) loses in Ohio, despite a recent appearance by John Boehner on his behalf.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:15:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: All (#61)

Hearing too close to call in PA and IL.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:20:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Brian S, skip intro (#62)

OH-Gov -- Strickland (D) up 53, Kaisich 43 with 8% in.

Wayyyy too early, but could Badeye's nightmare come true?

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: All (#63)

CBS calls it for Periello's opponent in VA-05. That's the first GOP pickup of the night.

39 more for control.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:26:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: All (#64)

Democrat John Lynch retains the NH Governor's mansion

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:27:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#65)

FL-24 goes to the GOP, GOP now +1 overall.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:31:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: All (#66)

Boozman wins AR Senate, 2nd GOP pickup.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:37:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: All (#67)

Manchin up 11 in WV with 10% in.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:38:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: go65 (#68)

Manchin wins WV.

So what's he going to do when he gets to the Senate since he had to win by throwing the Kenyan under the bus and he is a lame duck up for another election in 2 years?

Do you think Obama will be inviting him on stage for teleprompter celebrations?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-11-02   20:59:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: no gnu taxes (#73)

So what's he going to do when he gets to the Senate since he had to win by throwing the Kenyan under the bus and he is a lame duck up for another election in 2 years?

well, he'll caucus with the Democrats, which is probably the most important thing to them right now.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   21:03:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: go65 (#74)

Do you think Obama will be inviting him on stage for teleprompter celebrations?

he'll caucus with the Democrats, which is probably the most important thing to them right now.

Will those Democrats be supporting the Kenyan with a 29% approval rating in WV?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-11-02   21:12:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: no gnu taxes (#76)

Will those Democrats be supporting the Kenyan with a 29% approval rating in WV?

they supported him enough to give him a vote in the Senate tonight.

Oh, and Manchin is up by over 10% right now.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   21:13:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#83. To: go65 (#78)

they supported him enough to give him a vote in the Senate tonight.

Only after he threw Obama under the bus.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-11-02 21:26:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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