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Title: Election Day 2010 Live Thread
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Published: Nov 2, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-11-02 09:21:50 by go65
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All the talking is done, today is the voting, tomorrow is the spinning.

Discuss!

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FWIW, I voted about 8 AM this morning, there was absolutely no line and I was in and out in 5 minutes. In 2008 I waited a good 20 minutes to vote.

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#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11) (Edited)

Oil.

I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.

A third party candidate (American Constitution Party) Tom Tancredo. Clean coal, oil and gas, and cut government subsidies for "green" tech that doesn't work. If it worked, they wouldn't need subsidies.

When Tancredo/Palin are elected Prez/VP on the Constitution Party ticket in 2012, they may just drill an oil well in your neighborhood, then you can keep your eye on it. 8)


09/17/2010 Revisit and revise harmful Ritter-era regulations, including the restrictive new oil and gas regulations.

Colorado's oil and gas industry had been hit hard by the onerous regulations inflicted on them by the environmental special interest groups supported by John Hickenlooper and Bill Ritter. The cost has hit most Colorado residents through higher prices for basic utilities and has cost thousands of jobs in the last few years.

The insistences on the taxpayer funded "green jobs" initiative has created very few new jobs relative to those lost in the important energy sectors of Colorado. There are hard working people on the Western Slope who have families to feed working for clean coal and natural gas companies who have had that opportunity ripped out from under them. [snip]

tancredoforgovernor2010.o...s/issues_display.php?id=6

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-02   11:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Murron (#15)

Having a ball already.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   11:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#17)

Energy cannot be subsidized.

You only lower the EROEI trying.

Colorado Oil/Gas gets everything it wants. The problem is a negative EROEI.

When extrapolating the aftermath of local oil production declines to global Peak Oil, the unstated assumption is that the global economy will continue to function with uncanny smoothness at the level of demand that can be met, while unmet demand will be cleanly washed off into the gutter by a strong, steady stream of economic and political nonsense. This will all sort itself out spontaneously with rational market participants responding to price signals and deciding at each instant whether they should:

A. continue consuming oil in the manner to which they have become accustomed, or

B. quietly wander off and die without calling attention to themselves or making a fuss.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   11:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

And the above is more info than you're ever gonna get from your pol &/or MSM.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   11:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: go65 (#0)

-----------------------------------------------------------
Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-02   11:13:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: All (#20)

Report: Israel PM offers to trade freeze for US spy Ma'an news

November 1, 2010

Ma’an - JERUSALEM – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has suggested to US President Barack Obama to free Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard in exchange for extending settlement freeze in the West Bank for 60 days, an Israeli news site reported Saturday.

And this Pollard must really be a Big Swingin' Mossad dick.

The Navy will not let him out w/o a....I can't imagine. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   11:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mcgowanjm (#11)

Oil.

I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.

I think you can add the jolly little wars to your list.

“You know, the two wars that we’re in right now is exactly what we’re in.” - Sharron Angle, Tea Party Loon and future US Senator

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-11-02   12:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Skip Intro (#23)

I think you can add the jolly little wars to your list.

And thank you, SI. ;}

As I peer through the fog and attempt to see visions of things to be, I see nothing but pain ahead. Anyone who can look at the following chart and not conclude that there is much pain ahead for this country is either a Goldman Sachs banker, a Federal Reserve Governor, or a bought off politician in Washington DC. It is no coincidence that after Richard Nixon closed the gold window in 1971 and allowed the Federal Reserve to “manage” our economy that total debt outstanding in the US surged from $2 trillion to over $50 trillion.

©©The Chinese dragon has its glittering eye on Ireland: Ireland May Have Just One Month to Stave Off Bailout Danger: Euro Credit. China is even helping Iceland get bailed out. All of this at a cost: they must become part of the new Chinese empire. But then, the US can’t bail out anyone since our own economic ship is sinking. And we have no ‘money’ to spare since most of it is focused on making Israel impregnable rather than the US impregnable."

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-suicide-painless

The U.S. military knows we are on the verge of an oil crisis. There are no new supplies ready to come on line before 2015. The President and his advisors know that an oil crisis is in our immediate future. We have military bases in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and Kuwait. We have active fighting forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. We have a naval armada of aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. Our forces completely encircle Iran. Is this a coincidence when the countries with the largest oil reserves in the world are noted?

1. Saudi Arabia – 262 billion barrels 2. Iran – 133 billion barrels 3. Iraq – 112 billion barrels 4. Kuwait – 97 billion barrels

The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   12:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: All (#24)

The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."

And a btw:

The Fellow's Quote above assumes that the OPEC Reserve numbers are accurate. They are not.

Cut them in 1/2 at least.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   12:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#25)

The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."

Ex-the Saudis have been pumping 9 mbpd for the last 40 years and yet their reserves magically stay the same.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   12:19:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mcgowanjm, All (#11)

Oil.

I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.

I challenge you to update us on the evacuation of the Gulf Coast and the death toll as a result of Obama's oil disaster, mcclown! Can anybody or does anybody want to assist mcclown? He seems to be in dire need of help. Maybe psychiatric treatment would be beneficial.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-11-02   14:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#0)

Here are excerpts from a few predictions by the major election analysts that were published in Campaigns & Elections two weeks before the 1994 midterms:

Charles Cook, editor and publisher of the Cook Political Report:

"The Democrats will lose 20-25 in the House; four to five in the Senate. I'm seeing softening for Democrats in key Senate races, such as Virginia. Anti -incumbency, despondency among Democratic voters and a galvanization of GOP voters are the overarching trends. Democrats are disillusioned with Clinton; Republicans hate him and will turn out in droves. The GOP vote is coming home and it's hardening earlier than usual."

Stuart Rothenberg, editor and publisher of the Rothenberg Report, a political newsletter:

"The Democrats will lose 24-26 seats in the House; three to five in the Senate. They're vulnerable in the South and in traditionally Republican districts in the North that they've been able to hold in the past by splitting the Republicans. However, President Clinton's unpopularity is uniting the GOP. This isn't a particularly ideological election, though. It's just insiders versus outsiders, and Democrats are the insiders right now. Voters remain skeptical about the role of government, another negative for Democrats. Clinton has tried to alter this widespread mistrust of governmental activism, but he hasn't succeeded."

Larry Sabato, professor of government at the University of Virginia:

"My slogan has always been: 'He who lives by the Crystal Ball ends up eating ground glass.' Nevertheless, it looks like Democrats will be lucky to lose only 24-25 seats in the House and four in the Senate. Much of it hinges on President Clinton's popularity. Many of these elections are turning into a referendum on Bill Clinton, as is usually the case with mid-term elections and the President in power. About a half dozen Senate races will be decided with less than two percent of the vote. So last-minute trends will matter.

Clinton could bounce back, as he's done in the past, and that could reduce Democratic losses. I don't think his approval rating will sink any lower than about 35 percent; that's his floor and he's close to it now. If anything, I think his popularity might rise a little bit between now and election day. When all is said and done, there's only one thing we know for sure: the Democrats will lose a lot of seats in both Houses."

The other analysts' predictions cited in the piece were 25 House seats (Jack Germond), 20-25 seats (Gloria Borger), 25 seats (Cokie Roberts), and 25 seats (William Schneider). Notice a pattern? Of course that's not what happened—instead Republicans ended up shocking the world with a 54-seat gain and their first House majority in 40 years.

The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.

www.thedailybeast.com/bel...east/a-midterm-flashback/

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   14:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Badeye (#28) (Edited)

The reason I bring this up is that the current pundit predictions, although a rough estimate, are almost as uniform as they were then in predicting GOP gains of 50-60 seats. New York Times election guru Nate Silver has a detailed piece today explaining the unusual amount of uncertainty in this election and it truly is a must-read. As many of the analysts themselves acknowledge, just because the consensus number is about 55 seats, doesn't mean that much larger or smaller gains aren't possible for Republicans. There could still be some major factor in the races that the pollsters have so far failed to detect.

Agreed. SIlver published two separate pieces showing why Republican gains could be much larger or much smaller than predicted.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   15:01:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: go65 (#29)

Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT.

Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout.

If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted.

We'll see.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   15:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Badeye (#30)

Silver hedge his bet. Not impressed at all by THAT.

So is Cook, Sabato, etc.

Coons is panicking in Delaware, says the two biggest Dem strongholds are having anemic turnout.

We'll see in a few hours.

If the historical record of the pollsters holds up...it exceeds what I predicted.

We'll see in a few hours.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   15:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

I'm voting only for the Sheriff. Cause he's the guy who's in charge of Foreclosures.

8D

I voted for Sheriff and most (not all) of the other local offices when I knew about the candidates.

I expect Rand Paul to win by 10 points tonight here in Kentucky.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-02   16:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

REMINDER: Please bring a video camera/cell phone camera when you go to vote so you can document these problems on video tape.

Today I noticed something I hadn't noticed in the past at the polling stations. They had yellow signs up that said no cell phones were authorized in the room, except for those working the polls.

They didn't have these signs up at the entrance to the building so I suspect there was lax enforcement - I'll guess most voters were in and out in 15 minutes or less.

I'm still asking myself why no cell phones in 2010 in the polls????

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-02   16:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mcgowanjm (#24)

1. Saudi Arabia – 262 billion barrels 2. Iran – 133 billion barrels 3. Iraq – 112 billion barrels 4. Kuwait – 97 billion barrels

The war on terror is a cover for access to the hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in the Middle East."

That makes the most obvious sense.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-11-02   16:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#33)

i noticed two things

- a campaigner for our Republican challenger for the house offering candy at 8:15 AM to a little girl walking with her mom to the entrance. The mom looked at him with an "are you freaking crazy" look.

- no "I voted" stickers this year due to county budget cuts.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   16:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#30)

Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   16:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: go65 (#36)

Pollster's final prediction - 48 house seat gain for the GOP and an 86% chance that the Democrats retain the Senate (they have it at 48-46 with 4 undecided).

My Prediction:

70 plus House Seats go GOP.

10 Senate Seats go GOP.

See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-11-02   17:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#37) (Edited)

i've now gotten 4 calls and one knock on my door from our Dem. Rep's campaign today. They visited our home 3 other times in the last week.

Meanwhile, we got one door hanging in the same time from the Republican challenger, and this is a district that flipped to the Democrats in 2008 after 14 years of GOP control.

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EDIT - just got call #5 from the Democrats campaign.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   17:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38) (Edited)

Election night spin bingo card:


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   17:28:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: All (#39)

first round of calls based on exit polling:

Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D)

Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D)

North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D)

Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   18:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: go65 (#39)

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-11-02   18:18:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: go65 (#40) (Edited)

www.politico.com/2010/maps/#/House/2010

Pence, Burton, and Rogers declared winners of House seats in Indiana and Kentucky by Politico. All Republicans.

Rand Paul up by 10% with .4% of the vote in.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-02   18:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Badeye, ALL (#37)

My Prediction:

70 plus House Seats go GOP.

10 Senate Seats go GOP.

See you after its over. Enjoy watching our country find its voice at last.

62 GOP gains in the House

8 GOP gains in the Senate

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   18:59:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: All (#43)

PAUL WINS: The AP has called the Kentucky Senate race for Rand Paul.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#44)

LUNTZ CALLS IT FOR REID: GOP polling guru Frank Luntz is predicting Republicans will win seven Senate seats and 50 House spots, based on exit polls he had seen. On a conference call with associates from K Street, Luntz also said he thinks Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will win reelection.

http://www.politico.com/hp/wbarchive/whiteboard11022010.html

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#44)

The networks have called Sen Dan Coats (R) the winner of the Indiana Senate race; that is the first GOP pickup

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Brian S (#45)

Luntz also said he thinks Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will win reelection.

Luntz is frequently wrong. His "focus groups" are stacked.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-02   19:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: go65 (#0)

Leahy declared winner in VT. First blue spot on map (D).

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-02   19:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#47)

Luntz is frequently wrong. His "focus groups" are stacked.

Hoping you are right. I want Reid the hell out of the leadership, if not the Senate.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: All (#49)

GOP strong in IN2, IN8 and IN9 - could be the first seats to go to the GOP tonight in the race for the House

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#50)

# House results: VA5 Robert Hurt (R) leads Rep Tom Perriello (D) 56-42%; Rep Rick Boucher (D) trails 54-43 in VA 9 4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

4% in from Florida Senate - Rubio 43%, Crist 39%, Meek 16% 6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

38% in from KY6 and Rep Ben Chandler (D) leads Andy Barr (R) 52-47; Rep John Yarmuth (D) up 52-46% in KY3 9 minutes ago via TweetDeck

DEMS strong in Kentucky still, leading in both KY3 and KY6; Rand Paul (R) already declared Senate winner in KY

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:33:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: go65 (#0)

I predict the Republicans will pick up 70 seats in the house. The Senate will be divided 51 49 either way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-11-02   19:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: All (#51)

In Florida, Republican Dan Webster is up big over Rep Alan Grayson (D) 63-29% with 6% of the vote in

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-11-02   19:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Brian S (#53)

Allen West(R) is up by 10% in FL.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-11-02   19:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: hondo68 (#54)

Nate Silver:

O.K., here's a sign that tonight might not be an apocalypse for Democrats: the Kentucky Third District, where John Yarmuth, a Democrat, had been favored but the polling had been erratic, has been called for him. The other vulnerable Democrat in Kentucky, Ben Chandler, is also leading so far in Kentucky's Sixth District. Even though Rand Paul has won the Senate race in Kentucky, I'm not sure he didn't hurt the G.O.P. at the margins down ballot.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: All (#55)

more exit polls:

Who's to blame for the economy? Bankers (34%), Bush (29%), Obama (24%). Of those who blame bankers, Republicans hold an 11 point advantage.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: All (#56) (Edited)

Coons beats O'Donnell in Delaware


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   20:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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