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Title: Election Day 2010 Live Thread
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Published: Nov 2, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-11-02 09:21:50 by go65
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Views: 146220
Comments: 162

All the talking is done, today is the voting, tomorrow is the spinning.

Discuss!

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FWIW, I voted about 8 AM this morning, there was absolutely no line and I was in and out in 5 minutes. In 2008 I waited a good 20 minutes to vote.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

Discuss!

Vote only for the Local Props/sheriffs.

The system itself is structurally antagonistic toward citizen well-being and public interest policy. Congressional legislation will address these only under duress, only where circumstances force this upon it. And legislation will move to rescind any such concession on the parts of the elites the moment circumstances allow.

The Fact that the Dems were given an OVer All Mandate to TOTALLY diss the GOP and did Less Than 0 with that Mandate, tells you everything you need to know. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   9:29:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

in virginia we have 3 constitutional amendments on the ballot. the first allows localities rather than the state to set guidelines for property tax exemptions for seniors/disabled, the second allows for property tax exemptions for veterans disabled in the line of duty, the third allows the state to increase the size of its reserve fund.

go65  posted on  2010-11-02   9:35:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

the first allows localities rather than the state to set guidelines for property tax exemptions for seniors/disabled, the second allows for property tax exemptions for veterans disabled in the line of duty, the third allows the state to increase the size of its reserve fund.

Exactly wrong.

The 1st creates even more loopholes for the wealthy. The 2nd does the same. The only ones left to pay, especially in VA, would be the disappearing Middle Class.

The 3rd is exactly the wrong thing for VA to do. Pay down it's debt to Zero.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   9:40:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#5)

If we look at the circumstance of how much government elites must respond to the will of the people, as Rudolf Rocker says this is always a function of how assertive the people are, from the bottom up. Only direct action ever spurred legislative change. All worthwhile legislation was just a formal validation of existing facts on the ground. And the system will always rescind this validation the moment it believes this citizen-imposed fact on the ground no longer exists.

Note that Obama had simply to sit on his hands and DADT becomes law. That O couldn't even bring himself to veto the BankForeclureNotarization Bill. A Pocket Veto instead.

That the US is fighting CA tooth and nail over the Marijuana Vote.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   9:43:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#7)

Peak Oil, Climate Heat, USbp Ecocide, Genocide Iraq as a Theocracy forms.

Every time you hear about a TERRORBOMB plot, think this is as close as your state will come to addressing ANY of the above.

TELL me one thing the GOP plans to do when it 'gets in charge' of the state.

Release Pollard? LMFAO The US Empire crashes. Our Markets are on life support.

Our ALLies desert us as our jobs get sent overseas and those that stay pay Chinese wages.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   9:50:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

Where the rotten system empowers only two gangs espousing the same ideology, anyone outside this ideology, and all of its victims, is disenfranchised. When the non-rich submit to ”the vote”, they really just let a phony vote be palmed off on them. It’s like buying a raffle ticket where the prize doesn’t exist, because the organizers already stole it.

I'm voting only for the Sheriff. Cause he's the guy who's in charge of Foreclosures.

8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   9:53:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Oil.

I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.

Barton apologizing to bp and OMFGPalin 'Drill, baby, drill.'

That's it.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-11-02   9:55:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#11) (Edited)

Oil.

I challenge ANYONE here to name ONE candidate who's talked about it.

A third party candidate (American Constitution Party) Tom Tancredo. Clean coal, oil and gas, and cut government subsidies for "green" tech that doesn't work. If it worked, they wouldn't need subsidies.

When Tancredo/Palin are elected Prez/VP on the Constitution Party ticket in 2012, they may just drill an oil well in your neighborhood, then you can keep your eye on it. 8)


09/17/2010 Revisit and revise harmful Ritter-era regulations, including the restrictive new oil and gas regulations.

Colorado's oil and gas industry had been hit hard by the onerous regulations inflicted on them by the environmental special interest groups supported by John Hickenlooper and Bill Ritter. The cost has hit most Colorado residents through higher prices for basic utilities and has cost thousands of jobs in the last few years.

The insistences on the taxpayer funded "green jobs" initiative has created very few new jobs relative to those lost in the important energy sectors of Colorado. There are hard working people on the Western Slope who have families to feed working for clean coal and natural gas companies who have had that opportunity ripped out from under them. [snip]

tancredoforgovernor2010.o...s/issues_display.php?id=6

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#19. To: hondo68 (#17)

Energy cannot be subsidized.

You only lower the EROEI trying.

Colorado Oil/Gas gets everything it wants. The problem is a negative EROEI.

When extrapolating the aftermath of local oil production declines to global Peak Oil, the unstated assumption is that the global economy will continue to function with uncanny smoothness at the level of demand that can be met, while unmet demand will be cleanly washed off into the gutter by a strong, steady stream of economic and political nonsense. This will all sort itself out spontaneously with rational market participants responding to price signals and deciding at each instant whether they should:

A. continue consuming oil in the manner to which they have become accustomed, or

B. quietly wander off and die without calling attention to themselves or making a fuss.

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