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Title: Handicapping the deficit under divided government
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ez ... capping_the_deficit_under.html
Published: Oct 27, 2010
Author: Ezra Klein
Post Date: 2010-10-27 11:56:41 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 2111
Comments: 13

If Republicans take the House, how much likelier is a full extension of the Bush tax cuts? I'd say the odds that the cuts for income over $250,000 remain in place for at least a few more years go up by at least 50 percent, and if those cuts are extended once, I think it's also likelier that they get extended again.

If Republicans take the House and the Senate, how much likelier is a full extension of the Bush tax cuts? I'd say it goes up to 70 percent, and the only reason I don't say 100 percent is that President Obama has more incentive to pick a fight with Congress. Nevertheless, the compromise will almost surely include a temporary extension of the tax cuts for income over $250,000.

Now, if Republicans take the House, how much likelier is a deficit-reduction deal that increases revenues or cuts spending by at least $700 billion over the next 10 years, thus making up for the tax cuts? Maybe 10 or 20 percent? And I think I'm being generous here.

What if the Republicans take the Senate, too? I'd think the chances might actually go down, as Obama would need to fight on behalf of his base if he's going to remain viable for 2010. You might see some changes made to Social Security, but nothing on the order of $700 billion over the next 10 years.

When you get concrete, in other words, it's much easier to see how divided government worsens the deficit and very hard to see how it reduces it. The vehicle for worsening the deficit already exists and has Republican support. The vehicle for reducing the deficit doesn't. And that's before we talk about health-care reform, where Republicans have supported both repeal and, more specifically, repeal of the bill's cost controls, either of which would worsen the deficit picture further.

That, anyway, is where I'd put the odds. For those who disagree, what are the deficit-reducing bills divided government will pass that will have more impact on the deficit than the tax cuts (and, if you think it'll happen, repealing health-care reform, which CBO says will worsen the budget outlook)?

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#1. To: All (#0)

I look forward to hearing how the GOP will eliminate a $1.2 trillion deficit next year without raising taxes.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-27   11:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#1)

I look forward to hearing how the GOP will eliminate a $1.2 trillion deficit next year without raising taxes.

They could start by cutting all the losers off the dole.

Like YOU, for starters.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-27   13:05:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#0)

Two points:

A.) Obama is no Clinton. Obama is an academic ideologue who has no experience working with the opposition to get things done. My guess is that Obama will try to govern and pass large changes through executive order. Of course, he'll also spend a big portion of his time trying to convince the country that it's not his fault. (Nothing is ever Obama's fault.)

B.) Boehner is no Gingrich. In 94, new GOP House members gave Gingrich a lot of credit for engineering their victory and they followed him when he cut deals with Clinton. Boehner hasn't engineered anything and he won't get any credit for this victory from the feisty new comers. They aren't going to follow him if he tries to cut any rotten deals with Obama.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-27   13:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

They could start by cutting all the losers off the dole.

They could also freeze bureaucrat salaries, eliminate their lavish pension programs, and put them all on 401ks like everyone else. That would have a long term positive impact unfunded government liabilities.

The next GOP president has to rescind Kennedy's executive order which allowed government bureaucrats to unionize.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-27   13:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#3)

B.) Boehner is no Gingrich. In 94, new GOP House members gave Gingrich a lot of credit for engineering their victory and they followed him when he cut deals with Clinton. Boehner hasn't engineered anything and he won't get any credit for this victory from the feisty new comers. They aren't going to follow him if he tries to cut any rotten deals with Obam

The GOP is completely hamstrung going into next year, they can't compromise with Obama because they are too scared of the tea party crowd. So we are setting the stage for chaos. I expect the only real compromise is a short-term extension of the Bush tax cuts, but that will be about it.

So what you'll have is a non-functioning government, maybe with even big portions of it being shut down. Note that the GOP has already said it's #1 priority after election day is making Obama a one-term President. It's not jobs, it's not reducing the deficit, it's hurting Obama.

So prepare for gridlock for the next two years while the economy worsens, and both sides blame each other as a result.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-27   13:33:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65, bad eye, capitalist eric (#5) (Edited)

There is a vote on raising the debt ceiling coming up after the new Congress takes office. Yesterday Michael Steele said that this would be the GOP's first big test. Are they going to vote to raise the debt ceiling or not?

If they do, it will signal business as usual.

If they don't, they will set up a huge confrontation with Obama on spending.

Ultimately, the debt ceiling will have to be raised because they can't balance the budget in one year. The question is whether the GOP has the cajones to force Obama to sign on to significant spending cuts as a price for their vote.

This will happen late January / early February, so we'll get a sense of the next two years very early into the new Congress.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-27   14:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

If they don't, they will set up a huge confrontation with Obama on spending.

Ultimately, the debt ceiling will have to be raised because they can't balance the budget in one year. The question is whether the GOP has the cajones to force Obama to sign on to significant spending cuts as a price for their vote.

That should be a very interesting vote. I expect as well you'll see Obama introduce a package of tax hikes and spending cuts based on the recommendations of the budget deficit commission, which the GOP will soundly reject. So the onus will be on the GOP to come up with actual, real, painful cuts just as we're gearing up for a presidential election.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-27   14:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#7) (Edited)

I expect as well you'll see Obama introduce a package of tax hikes and spending cuts based on the recommendations of the budget deficit commission, which the GOP will soundly reject.

Thanks for reminding us about the commission.

The debt commission will certainly recommend a package of tax increases and spending cuts. It's unclear what Obama will do with the recommendations.

The reason I say it's unclear is that the Obama administration has largely outsourced the drafting of legislation to the Congress. The Obama administration didn't write Obamacare. He had 5 page Powerpoint deck. The Democrat Congress wrote it. Obama sold it.

So, Obama might very well just turn whatever the deficit commission recommends over to Congress, which would be amazing. If he did, the GOP would need to be very, very careful in opposing it since Obama will claim that the commission is comprised of bi-partisan "experts".

On the other hand, Obama might (and probably will) muck with the recommendation and gut the spending cuts. In that case, the GOP can and should go full speed ahead in opposing it.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-27   15:19:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#7)

That should be a very interesting vote. I expect as well you'll see Obama introduce a package of tax hikes and spending cuts based on the recommendations of the budget deficit commission, which the GOP will soundly reject. So the onus will be on the GOP to come up with actual, real, painful cuts just as we're gearing up for a presidential election.

Haven't even lost the election, yet you're already making excuses, and attempting to divert attention, eh?

You socialists are all the same...

LOL.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-27   15:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#7)

hat should be a very interesting vote. I expect as well you'll see Obama introduce a package of tax hikes and spending cuts based on the recommendations of the budget deficit commission, which the GOP will soundly reject. So the onus will be on the GOP to come up with actual, real, painful cuts just as we're gearing up for a presidential election.

Do you support Obamas desire to reduce the deficit?

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-27   15:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric, go65 (#9)

So the onus will be on the GOP to come up with actual, real, painful cuts just as we're gearing up for a presidential election.

The cuts will not be painful to US taxpayers.

Only US check recipients.

I look forward to seeing many cuts that are deemed painful by the MSM.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-27   15:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: WhiteSands (#11)

I look forward to seeing many cuts that are deemed painful by the MSM.

Definitely.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-27   15:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Capitalist Eric (#12)

Definitely.

Better would be to see bankruptcy.

And reset the DNC vote buying machine.

The DNC is now offering gas cards for votes through one of its nodes.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America said that some Americans ; "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-27   15:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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