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Title: Michigan Lottery Bill Would Block Welfare Recipients From Winning Big Prizes
Source: NACS Online
URL Source: http://www.nacsonline.com/NACS/News/Daily/Pages/ND1025101.aspx
Published: Oct 25, 2010
Author: NACS Online
Post Date: 2010-10-25 21:41:19 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 11489
Comments: 22

LANSING, Mich. – The Michigan legislature is considering a proposal that would limit the amount of lottery prize money residents who get welfare, Medicaid or food stamps could win to more than $600, the Lottery Post reports. The bill stipulates that any money over $600 won by such a person would be funneled into the state School Aid Fund, which receives any unclaimed lottery money.

State Reps. Tom McMillin, Jim Stamas, David Agema and Pete Lund sponsored the bill. “The lottery is a bad gamble for a lot of people,” said McMillin, who introduced the bill. “Some people play it for recreation. One too many times, I saw people standing in line who appeared to be poor and they were buying tons of lottery tickets.”

Some retailers support the bill. Najib Kakos, owner of Buscemi’s/Beverage Barrel, sells lottery tickets, but said he’s in favor of the bill. “We have family members that own businesses in the Detroit area, primarily in really poor neighborhoods,” he said. “Their lottery sales are unbelievable compared to ours. If you’re barely making it, you shouldn't be gambling. … The money should be used for food and shelter. It doesn't matter if it hurts our sales — it's about doing what's right.”

However, other lottery ticket outlets are against the bill. “If a person got a million-dollar ticket, then they should win a million — or $50,000 or whatever,” said Dennis Zielke, who owns Adair Market. “They should be able to have it.”

The Michigan Lottery expressed concerns about the bill. “There are some questions about the enforcement provisions which we don't really feel are in the bill right now,” said Andi Brancato, director of public relations for the lottery. “So, without any enforcement provisions, it's difficult for us to elaborate on the bill.”

Tennessee nixed a similar proposal. McMillin doesn’t expect any movement on the bill this year.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Michigan Lottery Bill Would Block Welfare Recipients From Winning Big Prizes

Hmmmmmmmmmm......a world where common sense needs to be legislated.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   1:12:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: e_type_jag (#1)

Hmmmmmmmmmm......a world where common sense needs to be legislated.

I'm with you on this 'one'...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-10-26   1:42:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S, e_type_jag (#2)

Hmmmmmmmmmm......a world where common sense needs to be legislated.

I'm with you on this 'one'...

Holy crap are you guys stupid!!!

WTF are you using for brains?!?!?!?!?!

This bill opens the hole one could drive a truck through even wider to even more fraud.

You two and "common sense" never met, evidently.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   2:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Wood_Chopper (#3) (Edited)

Hmmmm....stopping welfare cheats from buying lottery tickets with your money.

That's all I can see of this bill and the article doesn't have anything on "loopholes"......so FWIW I'm left with it at face value........and I see value in the "face"

You are against this?

If so...then your brand of "common sense" is not one I'm shopping for.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   2:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: e_type_jag (#4)

Hmmmm....stopping welfare cheats from buying lottery tickets with your money.

You are against this?

If so...then your brand of "common sense" is not one I'm shopping for.

So a welfare cheat isn't going to buy a lottery ticket if he/she knows there's a chance of getting $600?

Who gets the rest if he/she wins? The taxpayers, or the State that confiscated the money from taxpayers to give to the lottery player??

Here's another hint: The bill stipulates that any money over $600 won by such a person would be funneled into the state School Aid Fund, which receives any unclaimed lottery money.

Ever wonder why the "unclaimed lottery money" doesn't stay in the winnings pot? If there are two winners, and the State claims there are 3, who gets the extra money? The lottery players, or the State????????

Moron.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   2:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: e_type_jag (#4)

Hmmmm....stopping welfare cheats from buying lottery tickets with your money.

You want to stop it?

Fine. Anyone getting welfare gets NOTHING from their lottery win, and the money goes back in the winners pot, NOT to the State coffers.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   2:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Wood_Chopper (#5) (Edited)

So a welfare cheat isn't going to buy a lottery ticket if he/she knows there's a chance of getting $600?

Ummmmmmm.......that's generally thought of as a likely scenario sherlock.

When the "take" is only 600 bucks instead of powerball $$$$$$ it's a pretty sure thing the intellectual giants that collect welfare in the first place may opt to spend the few bucks on some colt45 and a few smokes instead.

But maybe in your einsteinian world, the gears spin differently and spending five bucks to have a 1 in 40 million chance of raking in that huge haul of 600 bucks is just too much to pass up....and you'll wait on the sure gratification of those smokes and the brew....eh?? If so then stay away from any math coloring books you read that mention Laplace Transforms ok?....you are sure to drown:)

This is a good thing. For those with common sense.

And then there's the likes of you.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   2:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Wood_Chopper (#5)

Here's another hint: The bill stipulates that any money over $600 won by such a person would be funneled into the state School Aid Fund, which receives any unclaimed lottery money.

Simple soul.....what is posted above is simply returning a voluntary "tax" that idiots like you pay to buy nano-chance odds tickets to a tax seeking entity.

What do you want fool? To return your non winning ticket like some faulty product you bought at Costco?

Sheesh.......thanks for ttttrrrrryyyyiiiinnnngggg to play.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   2:48:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: e_type_jag (#8) (Edited)

Would you like to enlighten us all on why the bill allows welfare recipients to win $600 (with the rest going to the State) instead of winning NOTHING with his/her winnings going back in the winner's pot?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   2:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: e_type_jag (#6)

You want to stop it?

Fine. Anyone getting welfare gets NOTHING from their lottery win, and the money goes back in the winners pot, NOT to the State coffers.

ping asshole.

No answer to this?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   2:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Wood_Chopper (#6)

Fine. Anyone getting welfare gets NOTHING from their lottery win, and the money goes back in the winners pot, NOT to the State coffers.

Actually you made sense there......run on that platform.

Use your lottery winnings to finance your run.......me??....I'm far more cynical than to waste much time on something that's not actually on the table....I'll take what's on the table instead of whining about imaginary "loopholes" you never identified as bitching about not returning "stupid" money to dolts who waste it on frivolous ponzi type schemes.

Whatever little steps are ACTUALLY moving something in a positive direction....are construed as common sense by my definition.

At least this bill constitutes more than you little crybaby bitch session about loss of your lottery "investment".

Chuckles.......

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   2:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Wood_Chopper (#10)

Ping back Captain AssPipe:)

Give me a chance to respond......you are below puffs on my puro in the "imporatance factor":):)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   3:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: e_type_jag (#11)

Moron.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   3:03:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Wood_Chopper (#9)

us all

Us all?

Do you have a crowd sitting around you?

As offensive as you are you FUCK......I can see how that could be the case.

But then....I'm sitting here alone with my stoggie jus chucklin away.....

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   3:03:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: e_type_jag (#11)

Fine. Anyone getting welfare gets NOTHING from their lottery win, and the money goes back in the winners pot, NOT to the State coffers.

Actually you made sense there.

Yeah I did.

And so did everything else I posted to you. But you're pride blinds you.

No wonder our country is in the shape it's in.

And fuckhead, I don't play the lottery for the very common sense reasons I've posted to you.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   3:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Wood_Chopper (#13)

Moron.

Good post.

Teeth kicked in figuratively on that one eh?

But then that's what happens when your intellometer pegs below the national speed limit.

Go take your "losers" back to the liquor store ya addled dope.....tell em they didn't work and you have a warrantee from the lottery commissioner or something.....this topic ain't really that interesting to me and further stooping to your level....while I have a good Stog going.....is not worth any more of my time.

Stew away kook.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   3:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: e_type_jag (#14)

us all

Us all?

Do you have a crowd sitting around you?

As offensive as you are you FUCK......I can see how that could be the case.

But then....I'm sitting here alone with my stoggie jus chucklin away.....

Nice dodge.

Would you like to enlighten us all on why the bill allows welfare recipients to win $600 (with the rest going to the State) instead of winning NOTHING with his/her winnings going back in the winner's pot?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   3:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: e_type_jag (#16)

this topic ain't really that interesting to me and further stooping to your level....while I have a good Stog going.....is not worth any more of my time.

Translation: You just got your ass kicked.

Go lick your wounds.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   3:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Wood_Chopper (#17)

Nice dodge.

As you see it:)

"Would you like to enlighten us all on why the bill allows welfare recipients to win $600..."....how about........."No" for an answer.....I'll leave it up to you and all of the "us" inside your noggin:).

Unlike you and the "us" contingent...this super duper important issue won't make me lose sleep.

Do "us" a favor and piss the hell off.

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-26   3:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: e_type_jag (#19)

I thought I wasn't worth anymore of your time.

how about........."No" for an answer.

That doesn't surprise me. Seems you favor welfare recipients having lottery winnings rather than getting NOTHING from betting taxpayers' money on the lottery.

How "liberal" of you.

Go lick your wounds.

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   3:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: e_type_jag (#19)

Do "us" a favor and piss the hell off.

Teeth kicked in figuratively on that one eh?

(sneakypete)DID Palin say or write these things or not?

(Mad Dog's reply) I don't know or F ing care.

Pete, MD doesn't know or care what Palin says or writes, he'll support her no matter what.

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2010-10-26   3:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

One too many times, I saw people standing in line who appeared to be poor and they were buying tons of lottery tickets.”

Great idea. The same mentality that got caused these people to wind up on welfare also causes them to buy lottery tickets. They are looking to get something without making an any effort.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-26   10:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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