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Title: Poll: Jerry Brown Has Double-Digit Lead Over Meg Whitman
Source: Miami Herald
URL Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/ ... ry-brown-has-double-digit.html
Published: Oct 24, 2010
Author: By David Siders Sacramento Bee
Post Date: 2010-10-24 19:55:44 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 48243
Comments: 71

Democrat Jerry Brown has opened a double-digit lead over Republican Meg Whitman in the governor's race, according to a new Los Angeles Times/USC poll.

Brown was leading Whitman 52 percent to 39 percent among likely voters, expanding his lead particularly among women and Latino voters, according to the poll.

Brown, campaigning this morning at several churches in south Los Angeles, said after one stop that he is "cautiously optimistic" about his chances in November. He was campaigning with the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom. Brown struck a populist tone, saying California is a wealthy state but that officials must "spread it out," not "suck it all up to the top."

He criticized Whitman for her scant voting record and called on congregants to cast ballots Nov. 2.

Whitman was campaigning yesterday in the Los Angeles area. She had no scheduled public events today. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Whitman is toast. However, the money she spends on the "get out the vote" effort might help Fiorina next Tuesday.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-24   19:59:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Kalipornians DESERVE what they get if they re-elect "Moonbeam".

I despise what the libTURDS have done to that once great state.

California was a wonderful place to live as late as the mid sixties.

If my ancestors were not dead they'd have left decades ago also.

SUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuCCCCCCCCccccccccKKKKkkkkkkkkkEEEEeeeeeRRRRRRRrrrrrrSSSSSSssssss

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-24   20:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mad Dog (#2)

Kalipornians DESERVE what they get if they re-elect "Moonbeam".

Sadly our debt will be paid for the rest of nation.

We have too many electoral votes to be ignored by any party.

The DNC knows this.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-24   20:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

We must get this and the ongoing torture at Gitmo and the just disclosed Afghan prison, looked into ASAP.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-24   20:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

Whitman and Fiorina are globalist open borders liberals, so conservatives are staying home or voting for Chelene Nightingale (AIP) and Ed Noonan (AIP). Only die-hard Republicans (McCain/bushbot libtards) will vote for Fiorina or Whitman.

The California GOP has made it crystal clear that they'd rather have Moonbeam than a conservative. The sooner they die the better.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-10-24   21:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: WhiteSands (#3)

Stupid cracker...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-24   22:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Fred Mertz, WhiteSands (#6)

Stupid cracker...

Says the despicable drunken faggot.

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-24   23:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Has your top answered yet?

To: war
”Am I a liberal or a conservative?”
Fred Mertz posted on 2010-06-16 11:39:38 ET

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   0:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68 (#5)

Whitman and Fiorina are globalist open borders liberals, so conservatives are staying home or voting for Chelene Nightingale (AIP) and Ed Noonan (AIP). Only die-hard Republicans (McCain/bushbot libtards) will vote for Fiorina or Whitman.

The California GOP has made it crystal clear that they'd rather have Moonbeam than a conservative. The sooner they die the better.

Exactly correct.

I'd never vote for moonbeam (frustrated enviroNAZI that he is), and whitman is basically ahnuld schwarzenkennedy, with tits.

What a choice.

I'm voting for the libertarian candidate.

Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-25   1:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Capitalist Eric (#9)

I'm voting for the libertarian candidate.

How are you able to vote in California? Haven't you claimed you live in Pennsylvania? Or was that a lie also?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-25   1:28:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#0)

Not buying this for a second.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   8:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mad Dog (#2)

I despise what the libTURDS have done to that once great state.

It ain't the liberals.

Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   13:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#12)

Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration.

Got a link to support this bullshit statement, goofy?

Nope.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   14:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#12)

I despise what the libTURDS have done to that once great state. It ain't the liberals.

Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself you ignorant miserable lying libTURD whore.

I lived in California from the early sixties until the mid seventies.

I have family whose bones rest there you despicable slack jawed libTURD tool.

ALL of what has happened to California has happened because of the LEFT'S drooling insanity.

I SAW it, I LIVED it.

You are without any doubt one of the most ignorant disgusting libTURD tools ever born.

Poor lucy.

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-25   15:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#12) (Edited)

Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration.

Now I know you are smoking crack.

Democrats have controlled one or both houses of the California state legislature forever.

The last notable California governor who could even been considered mildly "right wing" was Ronald Reagan who left office 35 years ago.

No one takes you seriously because you are either stoned, delusional, or a complete liar.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-25   15:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#12) (Edited)

Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration.

I assume she is referring to Prop. 13? If so, she's correct, the net effect of the law was to completely screw up California's housing market among other things.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-25   16:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler (#15)

Democrats have controlled one or both houses of the California state legislature forever.

Yeah, right - that's why liberals have no trouble promoting their agenda in the State budget year after year.

Get real!

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   18:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#16)

I assume she is referring to Prop. 13? If so, she's correct, the net effect of the law was to completely screw up California's housing market among other things.

Its prop 13, its term limits that has had the unintended consequence of handing inordinate power to lobbyists, its Reagan's war against education (Reagan & J. Edgar Hoover vs the University of California - pretty interesting history), its our initiative process that allows anyone who can get enough signatures including special interests to get their issue on the ballot - California is the only oil producing state that does not collect a severance tax on oil extracted from our state.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   18:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lucysmom (#18)

California is the only oil producing state that does not collect a severance tax on oil extracted from our state

LOL! Yeah, that's what we need more taxes, NOT.

Might as well kill off the few remaining industries, so CA can be declared a total wreak, and we can get on with rebuilding from the rubble.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-10-25   19:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#12)

Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration.

Please tell us when the Republicans held the majority in the California State legislature.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   19:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lucysmom (#18)

The problem with California is that your assinine faggot courts struck down prop whatever that was supposed to cut off funds to illegals. Now you are overrun with scummy Mexicans who think it is their beloved toilet of a country Mexico. Get rid of the illegals and your state will be fine. But you can't do that because your state is PC state and you don't want to hurt the poor little illegals feelings. Well until you say screw them and deport their asses your state will decline. And the rest of the nation will follow.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-25   19:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#21)

Proposition 187 also known as the Save Our State (SOS).

That’s one reason.

The other is unfunded State employee pensions.

Brown signed the ability for State workers to bargain collectively through The Dill act.

He legalized collective bargaining for the public-employee unions.

My kids have yet to even have their first jobs, yet they each owe $10,000 to unions that make sure Brown gets reelected.

Like the Mayor and managers of Bell city , Brown and the DNC raped the state for personal gain.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   19:32:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: hondo68 (#19)

LOL! Yeah, that's what we need more taxes, NOT.

Might as well kill off the few remaining industries, so CA can be declared a total wreak, and we can get on with rebuilding from the rubble.

If it weren't for the taxes collected from the oil industry, nice conservative states like Alaska would be in deep dodo.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   19:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: WhiteSands (#20)

Please tell us when the Republicans held the majority in the California State legislature.

With the two thirds majority rule and the initiative process, California Republicans don't need a majority in the state legislature.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   19:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#24)

With the two thirds majority rule and the initiative process, California Republicans don't need a majority in the state legislature.

Prop 187 SOS was an initiate to save money.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#21)

The problem with California is that your assinine faggot courts struck down prop whatever...

It was prop 187, it was struck down in a federal court, and sexual orientation had nothing to do with it - otherwise the above is accurate.

But you can't do that because your state is PC state and you don't want to hurt the poor little illegals feelings.

Well that, and the court found the law to be unconstitutional on the basis that it infringed the federal government's exclusive jurisdiction over matters relating to immigration, similar to the Supreme Court ruling in Plyler v. Doe.

Well until you say screw them and deport their asses your state will decline.

Yeah, who cares about that pesky Constitution anyway.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: WhiteSands (#22)

The other is unfunded State employee pensions.

Have you heard of CalPERS? Do you know what it is or how it functions?

Free Market baby!

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#26) (Edited)

Yeah, who cares about that pesky Constitution anyway.

Dem Gray Davis halted its appeals.

Who cares about the desires of the people to see if a laws Constitutional and save their state?

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: WhiteSands (#25)

Prop 187 SOS was an initiate to save money.

Yep. Too bad a federal court ruled it was unconstitutional.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#27)

Have you heard of CalPERS? Do you know what it is or how it functions?

Free Market baby!

Yes I have heard of them.

Have you?

You feel it's private enterprise.

Telling.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: WhiteSands (#28)

Who cares about the desires of the people to see if a laws Constitutional and save tier state?

A federal court ruled prop 187 unconstitutional.

As for the desires of the people - the founding fathers gave us a republican form of government to protect from the whims of the masses and to protect the rights of minorities.

America, love it or leave it.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: lucysmom (#29)

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

Are you an anarchist?

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: WhiteSands (#30)

You feel it's private enterprise.

It is state employee plus the state as employer contributions invested in the market.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: lucysmom (#31)

As for the desires of the people - the founding fathers gave us a republican form of government to protect from the whims of the masses and to protect the rights of minorities.

Hence the current changes next week.

So you have shown you are OK with what the DNC has done to the state of California.

Baby!

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#33)

It is state employee plus the state as employer contributions invested in the market.

Calpers is a government organization.Using pension monies to invest in the markets.

Back to : you have no issue with how the DNC runs California- Baby Doll!

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: WhiteSands (#32)

Are you an anarchist?

No, I am a patriot, and an admirer of Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:25:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: lucysmom (#33)

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

How does your tag line match your desire to see pension monies taken for investment with global merchants?

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: WhiteSands (#35)

Calpers is a government organization.Using pension monies to invest in the markets.

Perhaps you'd have preferred the retirement money was invested with Bernie Madoff?

Back to : you have no issue with how the DNC runs California- Baby Doll!

When they do. I'll let you know.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: hondo68, lucysmom (#19)

LOL! Yeah, that's what we need more taxes, NOT.

Might as well kill off the few remaining industries, so CA can be declared a total wreak, and we can get on with rebuilding from the rubble.

Palin imposed windfall profits tax on Alaska's oil companies, so therefore such taxes are conservative.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-25   20:32:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: lucysmom (#36)

Re your: The Federal Judges Ruled Prop 187 Unconsitutional:

Federal Judiciary "The germ of dissolution of our federal government is in...the federal judiciary; an irresponsible body, (for impeachment is scarcely a scare-crow,) working like gravity by night and by day, gaining a little to-day and a little to-morrow, and advancing its noiseless step like a thief, over the field of jurisdiction, until all shall be usurped from the States." Thomas Jefferson, 1821

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: WhiteSands (#37)

How does your tag line match your desire to see pension monies taken for investment with global merchants?

I thought we were discussing what is, not my desires.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#38)

Taxes

To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson Source: Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: lucysmom (#41)

As for the desires of the people - the founding fathers gave us a republican form of government to protect from the whims of the masses and to protect the rights of minorities.

America, love it or leave it.

You brought up the founders to discuss- what is.

Your tag line mentions a founder and explains what your feelings are about - what is.

Taxes To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson Source: Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: go65 (#39)

Palin imposed windfall profits tax on Alaska's oil companies, so therefore such taxes are conservative.

Palin is NOT a conservative. Have you been listening to FAUX sNews, Carl Rove, and MSLSD Kief Overdose?

Hondo68  posted on  2010-10-25   20:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: go65 (#39)

Palin imposed windfall profits tax on Alaska's oil companies, so therefore such taxes are conservative.

If a republican does it, its conservative; if a democrat did it it would be Communist especially if the money was paid to residents of the state as it in in Alaska. Redistribution doncha know.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: WhiteSands (#42)

To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

Time for the DoD to have bake sales.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   21:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: lucysmom (#46)

Time for the DoD to have bake sales.

We can avoid the bake sale by cutting all DOD expenditures in the Blue States.

Cut all anti terror funds and move DOD bases and factories out of Blue States.

Consolidation of the factories will create savings.

Those bases and former manufacturing sites should be used for better Blue state purposes.

We don't want them to be police states or contribute to the war machine.

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America: "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   23:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: WhiteSands (#47)

We can avoid the bake sale by cutting all DOD expenditures in the Blue States.

Been there, done that years ago.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-26   0:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lucysmom (#48)

Sadly as we hold true to our values of disarmamnet we loose jobs.

Factors that Contribute to the State’s Shortfall-

A variety of factors likely contribute to the widening of the state’s taxes-versus-spending disparity; three stand out as key drivers: age, income, and reduced defense spending.

First, as discussed previously, California is a relatively young state and thus has fewer residents receiving payments under Social Security and Medicare, which constitute an increasingly large slice of the federal budget pie. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 10.6 percent of Californians were age 65 or older in 2003, compared to 12.4 percent of all U.S. residents – as such, California had the 6th lowest percentage of its population over the age of 65.

Second, California remains a relatively prosperous state. Despite economic downturns in the early 1990s and this decade, incomes of California’s residents remain above the national average. Thus, the state’s residents pay proportionally more in federal income taxes under a progressive tax system.

Third, a key non-demographic factor in California’s ongoing funding disparity is the state’s slippage over the past 20 years in federal defense spending, including both contract procurement and military and civilian wages and salaries. The nation’s total defense contract spending had fallen from $123 billion in 1991 to $108 billion in 1998 (a drastic drop-off even before accounting for inflation) but expenditures then began a rebound that reached $183 billion in 2003. California’s defense procurement funding, on the other hand, experienced a faster fall and a slower recovery – dropping from $23.6 billion in 1991 to $17.3 billion in 1998, and climbing back only as far as $17.9 billion in 2000 before three growth years brought the 2003 total to $26 billion.

Whereas the early 1980s saw nearly one-fourth of defense contract dollars spent in California, the state’s share fell to a record low 14.2 percent in 2003. http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balance2003.htm

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Barrack Hussein Obama
President of the United States of America: "They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-26   0:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom, ALL (#45)

If a republican does it, its conservative; if a democrat did it it would be Communist especially if the money was paid to residents of the state as it in in Alaska. Redistribution doncha know.

You stupid libTURD b!tch.

Part of the Alaska STATEHOOD compact between the STATE of Alaska and the feral gooberment, which was ratified by the people of Alaska and the CONgress in 1959, gave ALASKA a 90% "severance" on ALL natural resources ever developed in the STATE.

But once commercial oil fields were discovered, and real money was involved the CONgress unilaterally changed that to 10%. You ignorant b!tch.

In other words you stupid b!tch, the feral gooberment just betrayed a written STATEHOOD compact. So by all rights the feral gooberment owes Alaska 80% severance from the first commercial sales until today.

But of course a libTURD skank tool such as you is just fine with THAT aren't you?

And you slack jawed drooler, OBVIOUSLY repukelican't does NOT = CONSERVATIVE. But demonRAT does = big gooberment hate America first TYRANNY.

The political division is NOT repukelican't or demonRAT it's CONSERVATIVE vs. big gooberment statist you ignorant gibbering cow.

And you slack jawed MORON, nobody including those of us who support Governor Palin like or support her stupid "ACES" bill.

You see you gibbering cow, in the REAL world nobody agreees 100% with anything that anybody does, especially in politics.

Further you gibbering cow how can someone who CLAIMS to be a supporter of the founding fathers and a "patriot" and a believer in the US Constitution, defend the feral gooberment's overturning of a STATE'S rights LAW such as prop 187 with a straight face?

Oh THAT's right! you are just a lying libTURD gibbering cow FRAUD.

I forgot.

My bad.

Poor Lucy

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-26   4:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Mad Dog (#50)

You guys are sure sensitive about the transfer of wealth from the oil companies via the state to the residents of Alaska. Just the mention Alaska's redistribution of private wealth causes heads to explode.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-26   10:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: lucysmom (#51)

You sure are eager to steal from people better off financially than yourself, goofy.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-26   10:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Badeye (#52)

You sure are eager to steal from people better off financially than yourself

Bzzzzz

Wrong again.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-26   12:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#53)

Your posts, dozens of them actually, here, show I'm 100% correct.

But its ago, goofy, we all know how you like to pretend.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-26   12:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lucysmom, ALL (#51) (Edited)

LOL!

It's not "redistribution" you gibbering cow. Alaska by our STATEHOOD compact AND Constitution, (both ratified by the US CONgress) holds ALL of the state's resources in common.

I guess a "patriot" who believes in the US Constitution such as you, is just fine with the feral gooberment changing the deal twenty years after the fact eh cow?

You don't have ANY problem with the feral gooberment overturning prop 187 in California either, your belief in the Constitution and STATES RIGHTS is just Sooooooooooooo strong eh cow? /S

Not to mention that a "patriot" such as you who Sooooooooooo believes in the US Constitution doesn't even know what federalism is, let alone support it.

You see you LYING libTURD FRAUD, OUR founding fathers believed in the several states running themselves as THEY saw fit, not being mere sub units of the feral gooberment. In other words you gibbering cow California runs it's state as it's people see fit and Alaska and every other state does the same thing in THEIR state.

No you gibbering COW, I'm not "sensitive", what I am is fed up with you and your ilk's invincible IGNORANCE and LIES about the American Constitution, and federalism.

What I am is fed up with is a stupid, LYING, libTURD whore/tool such as you talking out of your big fat ass, with absolutely zero idea of what you are talking about.

What I am is fed up with your gibbering by rote repetition of the monster's and whore's talking points, the monsters and whores who are busy killing this nation while TRYING to hide behind the Constitution and Founding Fathers.

You are without any doubt one of the most brain dead, slack jawed, gibbering libTURD whore/tool LIARS that currently infests the American body politic.

Poor Lucy

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-26   15:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: hondo68 (#44)

Palin is NOT a conservative.

Hondope is an ignoramus.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-26   15:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom, All (#55)

Nothing to say "patriot"?

Aren't you going to tell us all now about how sharia law and the US Constitution are "compatible" "patriot"?

You are nothing but a foul, gibbering, LYING, slack jawed, drooling libTURD whore/tool shill FRAUD.

POOR Lucy

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-28   17:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Mad Dog (#57)

I like women as much as you do. Were going to get a long together. Would you like to get a long together? I have a Hummer.

Boofer T. Bagger  posted on  2010-10-28   17:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: the banned DwarF today aka Boofer T. Bagger, A K A Stone, All (#58)

What's the matter dWarF?

Miss posting here so much you put a new "handle" on every day?

Did you get banned from your new swamp already LOSER?

You pitiful LOSER.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-28   17:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Mad Dog (#59)

You and Whitesands should get together. She thinks so too. She also thinks Fred.

She's walking home tonight. No Hummer for her.

Tomorrow you get another guess.

Did the piggy go wee wee wee all the way home after he shot down three big bad wolfs?

Laughing.

Boofer T. Bagger  posted on  2010-10-28   17:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: the banned DwarF today aka Boofer T. Bagger, A K A Stone, All (#60)

Yawn ...

"What's the matter dWarF?

Miss posting here so much you put a new "handle" on every day?

Did you get banned from your new swamp already LOSER?

You pitiful LOSER.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-28   17:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Boofer T. Bagger (#60)

"You and Whitesands should get together. She thinks so too. She also thinks Fred. She's walking home tonight".

Jealous? Needn't be, you're more her type, WS is right up your alley...literally...

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-28   18:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mad Dog, AKA Stone (#57)

Nothing to say "patriot"?

If you want to call me names, its apparently ok with Stone and it doesn't bother me 'cause I don't have to read it.

Perhaps you have a germ of an idea in there, however I'm not going to wade through the crap to try and find it.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-28   19:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: lucysmom, A K A Stone (#63)

LOL!

I don't blame you for NOT liking being called out on your LIES.

I don't blame you for NOT liking being exposed for what YOU are, which is a craven, deeply ignorant and stupid, LYING, libTURD shill FRAUD, and faux "conservative".

EVERYTHING that you post is crap.

POOR Lucy

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-28   20:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Murron (#62)

Thats why I married her.

Boofer T. Bagger  posted on  2010-10-29   19:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Mad Dog (#64)

Now that youve learned copy and paste what is doggies next trick?

Boofer T. Bagger  posted on  2010-10-29   19:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: lucysmom (#63)

If you want to call me names, its apparently ok with Stone and it doesn't bother me 'cause I don't have to read it.

Did you know MD is a war hero? He singlehandedly shot down three Migs. He's also modest, since no one else knows about it except him.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-29   21:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Skip Intro (#67)

He singlehandedly shot down three Migs.

Back in the days when Russia occupied Alaska no doubt.

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains. Thomas Jefferson

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-29   22:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: dwarf today pretending to be Boofer T. Bagger, A K A stone (#66)

LOL!

How about bitch slapping you down dwarf?

What's the matter dwarf?

Your new swamp too boring dwarf?

Or did you get banned over there already dwarf?

Soon you'll be posting to Mexican sites dwarf because you will have been BANNED from every english speaking site, eh dwarf?

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-29   23:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Boofer T. Bagger (#66)

war you have mental problems. Get some help. Bye again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-29   23:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Skippy the drive up window commando and LIAR Intro (#67)

LOL!

You don't even know what a Mig is do you skippy boy?

I mean YOU have never spent even an instant in ANY military organization, even a peace time one, have you skippy boy?

What's it like to know that even the girls of your age group ALL have more balls than you do skippy boy?

I guess to a wannabe lubber such as YOU, an ex-destroyer squid who jut did his job and duty would be considered a "hero" eh skippy boy?

Because I sure never have claimed that title. So THANKS skippy boy!

Not to mention that I have NEVER claimed to have shot down any Migs by myself.

It's just that a snot nosed wittle mommy's boy basement dwelling drive up window commando such as you is so ignorant of fleet operations that you ASSUMED that I had.

LMAOAY!!!!!!!

Yeah skippy boy between my two ships, we got a total of three, 3, Migs during my time aboard them.

Did you want a count of the NVA tanks and water buffs that we dusted too wittle boy?

Btw skippy boy, you forgot to ask her if she wanted FRIES with that!

I'm good, thanks wittle boy.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Living in mouth breather's empty noggins 24/7/365 totally rent free!

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-30   1:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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