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I'm here for the moneuy Status: Not Logged In; Sign In The Water Cooler See other The Water Cooler Articles Title: Poll: Jerry Brown Has Double-Digit Lead Over Meg Whitman Source: Miami Herald URL Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/ ... ry-brown-has-double-digit.html Published: Oct 24, 2010 Author: By David Siders Sacramento Bee Post Date: 2010-10-24 19:55:44 by Brian S Keywords: None Views: 48305 Comments: 71 Democrat Jerry Brown has opened a double-digit lead over Republican Meg Whitman in the governor's race, according to a new Los Angeles Times/USC poll. Brown was leading Whitman 52 percent to 39 percent among likely voters, expanding his lead particularly among women and Latino voters, according to the poll. Brown, campaigning this morning at several churches in south Los Angeles, said after one stop that he is "cautiously optimistic" about his chances in November. He was campaigning with the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom. Brown struck a populist tone, saying California is a wealthy state but that officials must "spread it out," not "suck it all up to the top." He criticized Whitman for her scant voting record and called on congregants to cast ballots Nov. 2. Whitman was campaigning yesterday in the Los Angeles area. She had no scheduled public events today. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade* Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 49. #2. To: Brian S (#0) Kalipornians DESERVE what they get if they re-elect "Moonbeam". I despise what the libTURDS have done to that once great state. California was a wonderful place to live as late as the mid sixties. If my ancestors were not dead they'd have left decades ago also. SUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuCCCCCCCCccccccccKKKKkkkkkkkkkEEEEeeeeeRRRRRRRrrrrrrSSSSSSssssss Mad Dog  posted on  2010-10-24   20:06:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Mad Dog (#2) I despise what the libTURDS have done to that once great state. It ain't the liberals. Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration. lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   13:09:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: lucysmom, jwpegler (#12) (Edited) Right wing radicals have done to the state of California what they did to the country during the Bush administration. I assume she is referring to Prop. 13? If so, she's correct, the net effect of the law was to completely screw up California's housing market among other things. go65  posted on  2010-10-25   16:18:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: go65 (#16) I assume she is referring to Prop. 13? If so, she's correct, the net effect of the law was to completely screw up California's housing market among other things. Its prop 13, its term limits that has had the unintended consequence of handing inordinate power to lobbyists, its Reagan's war against education (Reagan & J. Edgar Hoover vs the University of California - pretty interesting history), its our initiative process that allows anyone who can get enough signatures including special interests to get their issue on the ballot - California is the only oil producing state that does not collect a severance tax on oil extracted from our state. lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   18:39:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: lucysmom (#18) The problem with California is that your assinine faggot courts struck down prop whatever that was supposed to cut off funds to illegals. Now you are overrun with scummy Mexicans who think it is their beloved toilet of a country Mexico. Get rid of the illegals and your state will be fine. But you can't do that because your state is PC state and you don't want to hurt the poor little illegals feelings. Well until you say screw them and deport their asses your state will decline. And the rest of the nation will follow. A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-25   19:15:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: A K A Stone (#21) Proposition 187 also known as the Save Our State (SOS). That’s one reason. The other is unfunded State employee pensions. Brown signed the ability for State workers to bargain collectively through The Dill act. He legalized collective bargaining for the public-employee unions. My kids have yet to even have their first jobs, yet they each owe $10,000 to unions that make sure Brown gets reelected. Like the Mayor and managers of Bell city , Brown and the DNC raped the state for personal gain. WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   19:32:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: WhiteSands (#22) The other is unfunded State employee pensions. Have you heard of CalPERS? Do you know what it is or how it functions? Free Market baby! lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:12:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: lucysmom (#27) Have you heard of CalPERS? Do you know what it is or how it functions? Free Market baby! Yes I have heard of them. Have you? You feel it's private enterprise. Telling. WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:17:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: WhiteSands (#30) You feel it's private enterprise. It is state employee plus the state as employer contributions invested in the market. lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:21:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: lucysmom (#33) It is state employee plus the state as employer contributions invested in the market. Calpers is a government organization.Using pension monies to invest in the markets. Back to : you have no issue with how the DNC runs California- Baby Doll! WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:24:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: WhiteSands (#35) Calpers is a government organization.Using pension monies to invest in the markets. Perhaps you'd have preferred the retirement money was invested with Bernie Madoff? Back to : you have no issue with how the DNC runs California- Baby Doll! When they do. I'll let you know. lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   20:32:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: lucysmom (#38) Taxes To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Thomas Jefferson Source: Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, 1779 WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   20:34:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #46. To: WhiteSands (#42) To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical. Time for the DoD to have bake sales. lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-25   21:02:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: lucysmom (#46) Time for the DoD to have bake sales. We can avoid the bake sale by cutting all DOD expenditures in the Blue States. Cut all anti terror funds and move DOD bases and factories out of Blue States. Consolidation of the factories will create savings. Those bases and former manufacturing sites should be used for better Blue state purposes. We don't want them to be police states or contribute to the war machine. WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   23:58:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #48. To: WhiteSands (#47) We can avoid the bake sale by cutting all DOD expenditures in the Blue States. Been there, done that years ago. lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-26   0:30:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: lucysmom (#48) Sadly as we hold true to our values of disarmamnet we loose jobs. Factors that Contribute to the State’s Shortfall- A variety of factors likely contribute to the widening of the state’s taxes-versus-spending disparity; three stand out as key drivers: age, income, and reduced defense spending. First, as discussed previously, California is a relatively young state and thus has fewer residents receiving payments under Social Security and Medicare, which constitute an increasingly large slice of the federal budget pie. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 10.6 percent of Californians were age 65 or older in 2003, compared to 12.4 percent of all U.S. residents – as such, California had the 6th lowest percentage of its population over the age of 65. Second, California remains a relatively prosperous state. Despite economic downturns in the early 1990s and this decade, incomes of California’s residents remain above the national average. Thus, the state’s residents pay proportionally more in federal income taxes under a progressive tax system. Third, a key non-demographic factor in California’s ongoing funding disparity is the state’s slippage over the past 20 years in federal defense spending, including both contract procurement and military and civilian wages and salaries. The nation’s total defense contract spending had fallen from $123 billion in 1991 to $108 billion in 1998 (a drastic drop-off even before accounting for inflation) but expenditures then began a rebound that reached $183 billion in 2003. California’s defense procurement funding, on the other hand, experienced a faster fall and a slower recovery – dropping from $23.6 billion in 1991 to $17.3 billion in 1998, and climbing back only as far as $17.9 billion in 2000 before three growth years brought the 2003 total to $26 billion. Whereas the early 1980s saw nearly one-fourth of defense contract dollars spent in California, the state’s share fell to a record low 14.2 percent in 2003. http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balance2003.htm WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-26   0:34:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 49.         There are no replies to Comment # 49. End Trace Mode for Comment # 49. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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