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Title: Iran Seized U.S. Hikers in Iraq, U.S. Report Asserts
Source: New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/w ... /middleeast/23hikers.html?_r=2
Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: MICHAEL R. GORDON and ANDREW W. LEHREN
Post Date: 2010-10-22 21:38:39 by WhiteSands
Keywords: WikiLeaks
Views: 8299
Comments: 29

Iran has accused three American hikers of illegally crossing into Iranian territory in July 2009 and is still holding two of them in prison.

But a classified American military report made public by WikiLeaks, which describes the chaotic day when the hikers were detained, asserts that the hikers were on the Iraqi side of the border when they were seized.

The initial reports of any incident are not always correct. But one American government official who served in Iraq said that the field report was generally consistent with what he had been told by Iraqi officials — namely, that the hikers were close to the border but on the Iraqi side.

The episode began when four Americans traveled from Syria to northern Iraq, planning to hike up the Ahmed Awa, a mountainous area with a dramatic waterfall. One American, Shon Meckfessel, became ill and stayed behind when his friends — Shane M. Bauer, Joshua F. Fattal and Sarah E. Shourd — set out on July 31.

A July 31 field report states that Mr. Meckfessel learned of the arrests when a “female called him saying they were being surrounded by armed men.”

At first, the American military did not know who was holding the Americans. An intelligence officer at the American Army division based in northern Iraq, the report notes, initially described the event as a “kidnapping” and said the three American tourists “were being taken to the Iranian border.”

The report lists a number of military grids where the Americans were believed to have been hiking or had been detained — all on the Iraqi side of the border.

As documented in the report, the frenetic effort to locate the American hikers and to interview Mr. Meckfessel appeared to support the claim that they were tourists and not American intelligence operatives, as Iran has alleged. A drone aircraft was sent to look for the missing Americans, and two F-16s jet fighters were alerted. American Special Operations forces were sent to pick up Mr. Meckfessel, so he could be taken to Baghdad for questioning.

As the day wore on, the Americans received a report from an officer with the pesh merga, the Kurdish military force in northern Iraq, that the Iranians had detained three American citizens “for being too close to the border.” The July report reflects some frustration with the hikers for their “lack of coordination” in venturing to northern Iraq and offers some thoughts on the episode’s broader implications.

“The leadership in Iran benefits as it focuses the Iranian population on a perceived external threat rather than internal dissension,” it

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#1. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Fuck these three idiots.

I want to know the following:

1. What the fuck were they thinking going 'hiking' in a fuckin war zone (Iraq at the time they went there)/

2. Which one of these three trust fund babies decided traipsing down the Iraq/Iran border was a 'good idea'?

3. Why should any of us give a shit about what happens to these three FUCKING IDIOTS?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-23   10:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye, WhiteSands, All (#1)

When you've lost your soul:

Iraqi civilians used as minesweepers by a US soldier (Iraq War Logs)

Iraqi civilians were used as minesweepers by a US soldier, according to an allegation recorded in the Iraq war logs.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-23   12:05:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

Iraqi civilians used as minesweepers by a US soldier (Iraq War Logs)

Everyone knows that's a war crime.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-23   12:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mcgowanjm (#2)

still off your meds, huh?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-24   9:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#4)

still off your meds, huh?

grab that bottle, be. u know you want to.

;}

"...But I think the main reason is that so many people are not educated in the subject, they just haven't been taught it. This is particularly true in America, where enormous numbers of people have the very haziest idea of what Darwinism is all about. And I think it was almost deliberate policy in America not to rock the boat, because so many people were upset about it for religion reasons."

-r dawkins

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   10:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

millions sick on the gom.

Imperial city doing it's best to ignore.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lq_dv0myS8&feature=related

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   10:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#5)

still off your meds, huh?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-24   10:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

still off your meds, huh?

and round and round we go:

"Also, I couldn't say that the brain hadn't the capacity to understand, because obviously many of us do. But there is a sort of incapacity, in the same way as we find it even more difficult to understand quantum theory."

keep comin', be. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   10:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=14285

October 23, 2010 — Reports of brutality and torture of fellow Iraqis at the hands of government forces threw the country's political scene into turmoil Saturday with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki attacking the leak as an attempt to malign him, and his rivals citing the documents as proof he is unfit to lead.

As you desperately try to convince yourself that TeaParty issues are all you have to worry about.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   10:20:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: WhiteSands (#0)

Another WikiLeaks lie.

And when I say 'lie', not the site, but the accumultaion of AgitProp by the USUSIsrael intel services:

"# # Ken Bigley News Ken Bigley's family find little comfort in the fate of his killer · Al-Zarqawi Believed to Have Beheaded Both Nick Berg and Ken Bigley ... ken-bigley-news.newslib.com/ - Cached - Similar

"Al Qaeda kingpin escaped as chopper had no fuel London, Oct 24, (IANS):

A British military helicopter ran out of fuel, allowing Osama bin Laden's Iraqi commander to evade capture for further 15 months, the Guardian reported Sunday after studying the Iraq war documents released by WikiLeaks.

The astonishing blunder in March 2005 gave Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - a Jordanian associate of bin Laden with a $25 million reward on his head - an extra 15 months to expand Al Qaeda operations in Iraq, bringing the country close to a civil war.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   10:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#3)

Iraqi civilians used as minesweepers by a US soldier (Iraq War Logs)

Everyone knows that's a war crime.

;}

A US helicopter gunship crew were ordered to shoot insurgents trying to surrender.

US lawyer says 'reasonable, because insurgents can't surrender to an aircraft.'

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   11:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#11)

And here's how the Homefront gets news these days:

" Silva was embedded with a unit of the 101st Airborne Division, which has been involved for several weeks in a major operation in Kandahar to clear insurgents from Arghandab and the surrounding area.

A spokesman for the Kandahar governor told AFP that Silva had been embedded with veteran reporter Carlotta Gall.

She wrote this week from Arghandab, a district of Kandahar, that US and Afghan forces had been "routing" the Taliban in much of the province."

" Published on 23 October 2010 - 7:04am More about: Afghanistan

A photographer with The New York Times was seriously injured Saturday when he stepped on a mine while covering the war in southern Afghanistan, the newspaper said.

Joao Silva, 44, was evacuated to the main US military base in southern Kandahar after being wounded in the legs in the volatile Arghandab region of the province."

"This Country deserves a better class of criminal. And I'm gonna give it to 'em."- 8D -paraphrase from the Joker/Batman Begins

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   11:25:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#12)

OF course, we don't Even want to talk about a nation seizing it's rights from the Kleptocracy:

"France paralyzed as strikes enter day 12 Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:50AM

French railway workers from state-run company SNCF gather on the railway tracks as they block the Clermont-Ferrand train station on October 20, 2010. Protesters in France decry Paris' pension reforms for the 12th straight day, as the country witnesses its worst strikes and civil disobedience in 15 years.

"Just because an unjust law has been passed does not mean we passively accept it. All we wanted was discussions on how to improve the law. Even that was denied us. Now we are calling for its suspension," The Hindu quoted Francois Chereque of the CFDT trade union as saying on Sunday."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-24   11:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm, All (#13)

we don't Even want to talk about

How is the Gulf of Mexico evacuation proceeding mcclown? What's the death toll now from Obama's oil disaster?

It is very apparent you don't want to talk about it, dipshit!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-24   13:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#12)

Joao Silva, 44, was evacuated to the main US military base in southern Kandahar after being wounded in the legs in the volatile Arghandab region of the province."

I thought we were routing them in that region.

/sarc

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-24   17:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Fred Mertz (#15)

I thought we were routing them in that region.

/sarc

Why don't you show 'em how it's done, you drunken turd.

/no respect intended

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-24   17:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#7)

They got you working weekends, Boof?

Chuckle

meguro  posted on  2010-10-25   1:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Fred Mertz, mcgowanjm (#15)

I thought we were routing them in that region.

Mcclown claimed there was going to be a mass evacuation of the Gulf Coast and the deaths of hundreds of thousands as a result of Obama's oil disaster. He's a real fookin dumbshit, isn't he?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-25   1:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

still off your meds, huh?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   8:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: meguro (#17)

meggie, still pretending you live in Japan?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   8:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#19)

still off your meds, huh?

grab that bottle, be. 8D

do you good. Couple of shots.

"Waiting are 38 oil tankers, one more than Sunday, along with 19 tankers of refined products, seven chemicals ships and 12 gas vessels, two more than Sunday, the authority said.

As well as serving the several refineries around Fos-Lavera, the port serves the South European Pipeline. That pipeline supplies the refineries, and a petrochemical plant, located along the inland axis from Fos to Karlsruhe, Germany.

The pipeline transports about 23 million metric tons a year, or more than 30% of the crude oil transport in Europe, according to its website.

-By Adam Mitchell, Dow Jones Newswires, +33 1

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-25   10:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mcgowanjm (#21)

still off your meds, huh?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   11:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Badeye (#20)

meggie, still pretending you live in Japan?

You're the spook (or at least pretend one), see if you can find where I really am.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-25   11:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: meguro (#23)

You're the spook (or at least pretend one), see if you can find where I really am.

I would have to actually give a shit...I don't. I just know your a internet wannabe.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   11:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye (#24)

I would have to actually give a shit...I don't.

Riiiight. Pretend spook.

Chuckle

meguro  posted on  2010-10-25   11:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: meguro (#25)

Never claimed to be a spook, kook. Wrong again.

Go back to LP, where kooks r us is the norm.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   11:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Badeye (#26)

Go back to LP, where kooks r us is the norm.

But the King Kook, you, are here.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-25   11:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: meguro (#27)

buh bye.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-25   11:53:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Badeye (#22)

still off your meds, huh?

The bottle, be, the bottle. ;}

"

As anyone in American with an attention span longer than an episode of Jersey Shore can tell you, this is, on its face, utter horseshit. We who have not handed our souls over to Sarah Palin or Fox "news" (which, you know, are pretty much one and the same) understand that the stimulus might have been much bigger and not larded with tax cuts; that the health care bill might not have been such a reacharound to hospitals and Big Pharma, so busy buggering us all endlessly; that there might have been a bipartisan climate bill; that confirmations of judges and administration officials might not have slowed to a near-halt had it not been for the White House's constant reaching out to Republicans. But that, apparently, wasn't enough. Cooperation and compromise are possible only if they include capitulation to Republican whims. All of them. And that bar you met? We're moving higher, motherfucker."

rudepundit.blogspot.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-25   13:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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