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Title: 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.
Source: Heritage Foundation
URL Source: http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx
Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-10-22 17:46:19 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 49949
Comments: 100

15 freest countries:

Hong Kong89.7
Singapore86.1
Australia82.6
New Zealand82.1
Ireland81.3
Switzerland81.1
Canada80.4
United States78.0
Denmark77.9
Chile77.2
United Kingdom76.5
Mauritius76.3
Bahrain76.3
Luxombourg75.4
Netherlands75.0


U.S. drops from "free" to "mostly free". As usual, Hong Kong and Singapore are on top.

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#1. To: jwpegler (#0)

Title is :

Index of Economic Freedom World Rankings

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-22   18:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: WhiteSands (#1)

Words are not your friend.

No one else is either.

Bullet For Whitey  posted on  2010-10-22   19:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#0)

don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   19:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3) (Edited)

don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?

It depends on what you mean by that. They all have very different systems. Most of these countries have some mix of public and private, that includes some form of mandates on minimum coverage. For example:

New Zealand recently moved from a fully public system to a mixed public / private system. Everyone gets catastrophic insurance paid for by taxes that covers "accidents". Most incidental medical costs (like visits to general or family practitioners) are paid out of pocket.

Singapore also has a mixed private / public system, but it is all based on mandatory individual medical savings accounts. You have to save 8% and buy a catastrophic plan. You can use whatever is left over to pay incidental medical costs. Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.

Switzerland also has a mixed private / public system. The government mandates that everyone buy a basic health insurance plan. If basic insurance plan cost more than 8% of your income, the government will provide a cash subsidy to cover the rest. You can buy additional coverage if you'd like and also pay fees that aren't covered out of pocket.

Hong Kong also has a mixed private / public system. Users of government hospitals complain of long waiting times, an indifferent service attitude and lack of choice, while those who go to the private sector face high costs and variable service quality. The government just announced it will increase spending in an attempt to reduce wait times in public facilities.

I can go on and on with this.

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-22   19:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#4)

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.

Nope, but none have apparently lost their freedom despite various universal health care programs as the right argues will happen here.

I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom - think about how many are afraid to leave their jobs or pursue a start-up business because of fear of losing their insurance.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   20:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#3)

don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-22   20:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#3)

Doesn't everybody know polls and lists are worthless because they are easily skewed to achieve desired results?

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-22   20:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#6)

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

not that I know of, but given this is a Conservative Heritage Foundation list, I guess they don't correlate gun rights with economic freedom. Maybe you can complain to them?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   21:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#0)

How in the world is Singapore up there? I'll have to analyze the data.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-22   21:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rudgear (#7)

Doesn't everybody know polls and lists are worthless because they are easily skewed to achieve desired results?

Well I certainly do but only when I disagree with them as is the case with most everybody.

Don't like the polls results...question the source and methods. Old hat stuff.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-10-22   21:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: meguro (#9)

From the FAQ:

http://www.heritage.org/index/FAQ.aspx

Q.3. How do you measure economic freedom?

We measure ten components of economic freedom, assigning a grade in each using a scale from 0 to 100, where 100 represents the maximum freedom. The ten component scores are then averaged to give an overall economic freedom score for each country. The ten components of economic freedom are:

Business Freedom | Trade Freedom | Fiscal Freedom | Government Spending | Monetary Freedom | Investment Freedom | Financial Freedom | Property rights | Freedom from Corruption | Labor Freedom


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   21:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#11)

Thank you. Based on the doctored title, I wasn't aware that it was specific to economic freedom at first.

BTW, was reading some of your exchanges with Badeye. Why do you waste your time with that clown?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-22   22:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: meguro (#12)

Thank you. Based on the doctored title, I wasn't aware that it was specific to economic freedom at first.

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-22   22:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Skip Intro (#13) (Edited)

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Yup. This site is hardly better than LP, especially considering that it's largely filled with past and present LP posters.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-22   22:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Bullet For Whitey (#2)

Hey dwarf:)

Lycra panties all twisted up again?

Or is it the spandex "ironman" sports bra that's got you spittin again?

BBBBWWWAAAAHHHAAA!!!!

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-22   22:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: e_type_jag, A K A Stone (#15)

Fred and Skip Intro both use cracker.

Now we have Bullet for Whitey.

Escalation , because they are allowed to be race mongers .

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-22   22:55:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro, meguro (#13)

this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Yours is crying like a little girl.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-22   23:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#4)

Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.

Anyone can use the public hospitals (owned and operated by the government) and most do because the cost is lower. Government health care delivery competes with the private sector and acts as a control on prices.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-22   23:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: meguro (#12)

BTW, was reading some of your exchanges with Badeye. Why do you waste your time with that clown?

It takes my mind off some more important things right now. :-)


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   0:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#4)

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.

The US ranks 37th. Certainly we can do better than that.

Sixty-two percent of bankruptcies in the US have a medical cause according to The American Journal of Medicine.

Medical bankruptcy does not exist in countries with universal health coverage like Japan, Canada, Great Britain, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, and France, just to name a quick dozen.33; But, here in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world, medical debt forces many people into bankruptcy.

www.bankruptcylawnetwork....al-bankruptcy-is-no-myth/

The "Utopia" you claim the left dreams of has been achieved in all first world countries where people don't have to chose between health care and bankruptcy.

Oh wait - that's all of them except the US.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ibluafartsky (#6)

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

Maybe Somalia or Afghanistan, but then we usually don't think of those places as desirable places to put down roots and raise a family.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: WhiteSands (#16)

A bit off topic, don't you agree?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ibluafartsky (#17)

Yours is crying like a little girl.

and yours is breaking wind

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#21)

Maybe Somalia or Afghanistan

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#23)

breaking wind

You breath it.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ibluafartsky (#24)

by your measure, a lot

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ibluafartsky (#25)

Fortunately the smell doesn't travel the intertubes

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#26)

by your measure, a lot

Please elaborate.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Fortunately the smell doesn't travel the intertubes

Yes, liberals exude a foul stench.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Skip Intro (#13)

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Edited:

Title: ORLY TAITZ CALLS FOR SCOTUS TO ALLOW HER TO INVESTIGATE SCOTUS (And copies half the UN to boot)
Post Date: 2010-07-21 11:43:19 by Skip Intro

Fake:

Title: Your request is being processed... Sharron Angle Runs From Reporters At Her Own Press Conference
Post Date: 2010-07-22 14:21:27 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Palin blames media for unfavorable rating (Big Surprise There)
Post Date: 2010-08-01 11:34:13 by Skip Intro

Fake:

Title: Ted Olson Defends California's Gay Marriage Ruling On Fox News
Post Date: 2010-08-08 21:21:09 by Skip Intro

Fake:
Title: Jews give Obama above average approval rating
Post Date: 2010-08-27 16:36:54 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Angle strove religiously against black jerseys (because black is evil)
Post Date: 2010-08-20 14:42:59 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Blair reveals Syria’s fears were well-founded (Cheney wanted to invade)
Post Date: 2010-09-05 13:19:48 by Skip Intro

Faked:

Title: Republicans propose to make it illegal to be a Cornholing Fudgepacker in Montana
Post Date: 2010-09-24 14:38:50 by Skip Intro

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   1:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#22)

A bit off topic, don't you agree?

A poster pops up with a name Bullet for Whitey and feel replying to that racism is off topic.

Are you a a racist?

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   1:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: WhiteSands (#31)

A poster pops up with a name Bullet for Whitey and feel replying to that racism is off topic.

So then the topic is poster screen names and not 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.?

Okay. Got it.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   2:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: WhiteSands, Skip Intro (#30)

Hey Skip why are you a hypocrite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-23   7:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: WhiteSands (#31)

So is your name.

Thank you for suggesting a better one.

Bullet For WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   9:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Bullet For WhiteSands (#34)

You've got the stupid cracker looking back over her shoulder. LOLOL

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-23   9:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: e_type_jag (#15)

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-23   10:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky, lucysmom (#24)

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Lots more than here, very weak government, no gun control, little regulation, they are both conservative utopias.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   10:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)

About what, Stonehead?

Adding comments in brackets to article titles? It's always been allowed everywhere I've ever posted.

Making up one fake title? Well, you do it all the time so I'm just following your lead to see what you'd do. Since it was a change you approved of, you did nothing, like I thought you would.

The rest aren't fake; the idiot WS got it wrong.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-23   11:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65, Ibluafartsky (#37)

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Lots more than here, very weak government, no gun control, little regulation, they are both conservative utopias.

Afghanistan does have an income tax so blu may prefer taking his guns to Somalia.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   11:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: go65 (#5) (Edited)

I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom

Again, I support something like the Singapore system.

A.) Everybody has to save at least 8% of their income. They can use the money to buy catastrophic insurance, pay for incidental medical expenses, or both.

B.) If you don't earn enough to buy insurance, the government will subsidize your savings. This would replace Medicaid.

C.) Healthcare providers must publish prices and outcomes.

D.) Eliminate state laws which restrict competition in providing health insurance.

That program would work here. Everyone would have coverage (that they buy themselves) for catastrophic conditions. They have to pay out of pocket for everything else, which would force prices down. It's what Switzerland, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, and many other countries do. America has gone in the opposite direction over the last 50 years, which is why our system is so screwed up. Obamacare is more of the same bad policies, which is one reason prices are already escalating.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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