Title: 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S. Source:
Heritage Foundation URL Source:http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx Published:Oct 22, 2010 Author:staff Post Date:2010-10-22 17:46:19 by jwpegler Keywords:None Views:49632 Comments:100
15 freest countries:
Hong Kong
89.7
Singapore
86.1
Australia
82.6
New Zealand
82.1
Ireland
81.3
Switzerland
81.1
Canada
80.4
United States
78.0
Denmark
77.9
Chile
77.2
United Kingdom
76.5
Mauritius
76.3
Bahrain
76.3
Luxombourg
75.4
Netherlands
75.0
U.S. drops from "free" to "mostly free". As usual, Hong Kong and Singapore are on top.
don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?
It depends on what you mean by that. They all have very different systems. Most of these countries have some mix of public and private, that includes some form of mandates on minimum coverage. For example:
New Zealand recently moved from a fully public system to a mixed public / private system. Everyone gets catastrophic insurance paid for by taxes that covers "accidents". Most incidental medical costs (like visits to general or family practitioners) are paid out of pocket.
Singapore also has a mixed private / public system, but it is all based on mandatory individual medical savings accounts. You have to save 8% and buy a catastrophic plan. You can use whatever is left over to pay incidental medical costs. Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.
Switzerland also has a mixed private / public system. The government mandates that everyone buy a basic health insurance plan. If basic insurance plan cost more than 8% of your income, the government will provide a cash subsidy to cover the rest. You can buy additional coverage if you'd like and also pay fees that aren't covered out of pocket.
Hong Kong also has a mixed private / public system. Users of government hospitals complain of long waiting times, an indifferent service attitude and lack of choice, while those who go to the private sector face high costs and variable service quality. The government just announced it will increase spending in an attempt to reduce wait times in public facilities.
I can go on and on with this.
No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.
Nope, but none have apparently lost their freedom despite various universal health care programs as the right argues will happen here.
I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom - think about how many are afraid to leave their jobs or pursue a start-up business because of fear of losing their insurance.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
Doesn't everybody know polls and lists are worthless because they are easily skewed to achieve desired results?
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
not that I know of, but given this is a Conservative Heritage Foundation list, I guess they don't correlate gun rights with economic freedom. Maybe you can complain to them?
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
We measure ten components of economic freedom, assigning a grade in each using a scale from 0 to 100, where 100 represents the maximum freedom. The ten component scores are then averaged to give an overall economic freedom score for each country. The ten components of economic freedom are:
Business Freedom | Trade Freedom | Fiscal Freedom | Government Spending | Monetary Freedom | Investment Freedom | Financial Freedom | Property rights | Freedom from Corruption | Labor Freedom
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
Or is it the spandex "ironman" sports bra that's got you spittin again?
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Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.
Anyone can use the public hospitals (owned and operated by the government) and most do because the cost is lower. Government health care delivery competes with the private sector and acts as a control on prices.
No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.
The US ranks 37th. Certainly we can do better than that.
Sixty-two percent of bankruptcies in the US have a medical cause according to The American Journal of Medicine.
Medical bankruptcy does not exist in countries with universal health coverage like Japan, Canada, Great Britain, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, and France, just to name a quick dozen.33; But, here in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world, medical debt forces many people into bankruptcy.
The "Utopia" you claim the left dreams of has been achieved in all first world countries where people don't have to chose between health care and bankruptcy.
Adding comments in brackets to article titles? It's always been allowed everywhere I've ever posted.
Making up one fake title? Well, you do it all the time so I'm just following your lead to see what you'd do. Since it was a change you approved of, you did nothing, like I thought you would.
I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom
Again, I support something like the Singapore system.
A.) Everybody has to save at least 8% of their income. They can use the money to buy catastrophic insurance, pay for incidental medical expenses, or both.
B.) If you don't earn enough to buy insurance, the government will subsidize your savings. This would replace Medicaid.
C.) Healthcare providers must publish prices and outcomes.
D.) Eliminate state laws which restrict competition in providing health insurance.
That program would work here. Everyone would have coverage (that they buy themselves) for catastrophic conditions. They have to pay out of pocket for everything else, which would force prices down. It's what Switzerland, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, and many other countries do. America has gone in the opposite direction over the last 50 years, which is why our system is so screwed up. Obamacare is more of the same bad policies, which is one reason prices are already escalating.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
I've been to Singapore many times. It is a really, really nice place. In fact, if I ever decided to leave the U.S., Singapore would be on my very short list of places to move.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
You are making things up again, which is why I refuse to engage you in a conversation any longer.
No, I'm not making it up, you just don't bother to read; not on your own and not the links I've provided in the past.
One more time:
# "The private healthcare system competes with the public healthcare, which helps contain prices in both directions. Private medical insurance is also available."
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# The government pays for "basic healthcare services... subject to tight expenditure control." Bottom line: The government pays 80% of "basic public healthcare services."
Conservatives are right: Singaporeans have the kind of "skin in the game" that promotes prudence.
But that's only half the story. There's also a massive public role. For starters, adequate savings for retirement and health expenses are mandated by government (employees must sock away 20 percent of earnings each year, to which employers add 13 percent). Public hospitals provide 80 percent of the acute care, setting affordable pricing benchmarks with which private providers compete. Supply-side rules that favor training new family doctors over pricey specialists are more extensive than similar notions Hillary Clinton pushed in the '90s. And in Singapore, if a child is obese, they don't get Rose Garden exhortations from the first lady. They get no lunch and mandatory exercise periods during school.
Right, and Singapore censors the media and "cains" people who chew gum.
Don't believe anything you read in the American press about Singapore.
I've been to Singapore many times. My company has an office there. We do business with the Singapore Hospital Authority.
Yes Singapore has government hospitals. So does the U.S. They are called County Hospitals. My two sisters were born in a county hospital. They existed long before the federal government ruined our healthcare system. I've told you this dozens of times before, but it just doesn't sink in.
No, the government does NOT pay for basic health services in Singapore. The government pays about 30% of healthcare expenditures, compared to about 50% in the U.S. No matter what your income level is, you have to pay part of the bill yourself out of your medical savings account. You are required to save money for healthcare.
The reason prices are low in Singapore is primary due to people having to pay their own bills, just like you pay your own grocery bill. Singapore created a nation of healthcare shoppers, while the U.S. created a nation of people who leech off of the productive part of the economy.
You have no real world experience. You Google something and post the first piece of garbage that fits your preconceived notions. This is why I am not going to respond to you any longer.
Bozo bit flipped.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
I've been to Singapore many times. My company has an office there. We do business with the Singapore Hospital Authority.
I've been to India, and even been a patient in India, in addition I was given a private tour of Indian health care facilities guided by the head of Department of Medical Health and Family Welfare in the state of Uttar Pradesh but I'm smart enough to know that that doesn't make me an expert on Indian health care.
BTW, I have experience with Egyptian health care too.
I've been to India, and even been a patient in India, in addition I was given a private tour of Indian health care facilities guided by the head of Department of Medical Health and Family Welfare in the state of Uttar Pradesh but I'm smart enough to know that that doesn't make me an expert on Indian health care.
But I am a consultant who does business with these people. We have a huge focus on healthcare. We are paid to help our customers turn their challenges into opportunities through the proper and cost effective adoption of technology.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
Singapore is dictatorship that mandates exercise and jails homosexuals. Its population is almost 80% Chinese.
Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the United States
Ethnic Groups Show Different Cardiovascular Risk Profiles: Chinese Have Lowest Levels of Heart Disease While South Asians Have Highest- Apr. 19, 2010 [snip]
There are striking differences in the cardiovascular risk profiles of four ethnic groups -- white, Chinese, South Asian and black -- living in Ontario, Canada, found a new study in CMAJ.
[Snip]
The researchers found that the Chinese population had the lowest overall prevalence of heart disease (3.2%) and stroke (0.6%)
[snip]
"Despite universal access to health care, ethnic groups living in Ontario, differed markedly in their cardiovascular risk profiles," writes Ms. Maria Chiu and Dr. Jack Tu, Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences (ICES)
----------------------------------------------------------- Liberals: -Pro nuclear proliferation. -Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays. -Have no issues with inmate abuse. -In discussions to release J.Pollard.
Sheikh Hassan Mahdi, a high-ranking official with Hizbul Islam, told a Mogadishu radio station the group is ready to talk with the Somali government
Then you'd better hurry up, you're opportunity to live a tax free, regulation free, gun toten', libertarian fantasy may be coming to an end.
From Wikipedia
Somalia, from 1991 to 2006, is cited as a real-world example of a stateless society and legal system.[1][2] Since the fall of Siad Barre's government in January 1991, there had been no permanent national government in Somalia[3] until the current Transitional Federal Government. Large areas of the country such as Puntland, and Galmudug are internationally unrecognized autonomous regions, while Somaliland is a de facto sovereign state. The remaining areas, including the capital Mogadishu, were divided into smaller territories ruled by competing warlords. In many areas there were (and still are) no formal regulations or licensing requirements for businesses and individuals.
Somalia is currently claimed as the sovereign territory of the Transitional Federal Government, internationally recognized as the Government of Somalia. Before December 2006, the TFG controlled only the town of Baidoa, the sixth largest city.[3] The intervention of Ethiopian government forces following the rise of the Islamic Courts Union, culminating in the latter's defeat in the Battle of Baidoa, allowed the TFG to expand its control under the protection of the Ethiopians. The TFG has not been able to effectively collect taxes, has no notable finances or real power base,[4] and has struggled to exert control over Mogadishu since an attempted move in late December 2006.
I've been to Singapore many times. It is a really, really nice place. In fact, if I ever decided to leave the U.S., Singapore would be on my very short list of places to move.
Really? Surprised to hear this from someone who strikes me as somewhat of a libertarian (perhaps I've miscategorized your political position?).
I've been there a couple of times myself, most recently last year (I happen to currently live in Tokyo, Japan), and while aspects of it are indeed nice (great food!), you do realize that it has a rather authoritarian government, no? Almost kind of a benign dictatorship... very little political freedom.
But I guess as long as you steer clear of speaking out against the government, drugs, and chewing gum (:- ) ) you'll be fine.
Personally I find it a bit too orderly for my tastes, but it would be a great launching pad to all the other countries in Southeast Asia.
The US ranks 37th. Certainly we can do better than that.
We can if not for leftist loons running amok and completely f***ing the country up with its ever gargantuan over governance and regulations, it's obsessive "diversity-is-our-strength" mantra, its socialism, it's moral relativism, its sabotage of education, the economy, and American industry during the last 20 years or so.
Medical bankruptcy does not exist in countries with universal health coverage like Japan, Canada, Great Britain, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, and France, just to name a quick dozen.33;33; But, here in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world, medical debt forces many people into bankruptcy.
Yes, but those countries are basically racially or nationally monolithic, and of whom don't have to cover 30 million illegals invaders, and NEVER have to spend a fraction of their GNP on national defense. WE'VE ALWAYS paid for theirs. Moreover, their health care is grossly INFERIOR. Especially in the non-Scandinavian countries and Switzerland.
You have also discounted the regulatory nightmare, liability (thanks to lawyers), and rampant fraud and lawsuits here in America.
I'm starting to think hypocrites invented the Democrat party as something to inhabit. Not the other way around. That and the wheels came of Skivvy's wagon when war got shown the door. Sad watching them bumble around.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
The reason prices are low in Singapore is primary due to people having to pay their own bills, just like you pay your own grocery bill. Singapore created a nation of healthcare shoppers, while the U.S. created a nation of people who leech off of the productive part of the economy.
Well stated.
Mom of Lucy - please fire up another bowl of weed, incense stick, and 'Strawberry Alarm Clock' album, and contemplate this.
I'm starting to think hypocrites invented the Democrat party as something to inhabit. Not the other way around. That and the wheels came of Skivvy's wagon when war got shown the door. Sad watching them bumble around.
"Sad"? Yeah, in a clinical sense. Funny in an entertainment value sense.
Liberals require enablers and other parrots to validate their insanity and self-denials. It's truly amazing to note how unprincipled these people are, and how the "truth" is ALWAYS relative.
There can be no such thing as a sane liberal-Leftist.
Liberals require enablers and other parrots to validate their insanity and self-denials. It's truly amazing to note how unprincipled these people are, and how the "truth" is ALWAYS relative.
That's what the Democrat party is for. It justifies, perpetuates and houses unprincipled people.
Some people are just no damn good. Born rotten, greedy and self-absorbed and dammit, they deserve political representation, too!
I just wish there was a way to hijack their computer cams. I'd love to see their expressions as they eat shit in this election.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
Guess they do pay a fraction of their GDP on defense. Just for comparison, the US spends 4.6% GDP and ranks 25th. Twenty-four countries spend a higher percentage of their GDP on defense including Singapore which spends 4.9% GDP.
Moreover, their health care is grossly INFERIOR. Especially in the non-Scandinavian countries and Switzerland.
Okay - same list: Japan, ranks 10th; Canada, ranks 30th; Great Britain,ranks 18; Taiwan*, Germany, ranks 25; Italy, ranks 2; Switzerland, ranks 20 (second highest cost after the US) Sweden, ranks 23; Norway, ranks 11; Austria, ranks 9; Finland, ranks 31; and France ranks number 1.
* Taiwan gets healthy; America should look to Taiwan as a model on healthcare. After all, Taiwan based its successful new system on US Medicare.
You have also discounted the regulatory nightmare, liability (thanks to lawyers), and rampant fraud and lawsuits here in America.
Of course your talking corporate fraud and doctors suing their HMO employers and drug companies suing each other. A lot of that suing and fraud stuff going on in the private sector.
The TFG has not been able to effectively collect taxes, has no notable finances or real power base,[4] and has struggled to exert control over Mogadishu since an attempted move in late December 2006
Hey Fartsky, let us know what kind of home you find there.
On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.
but it would be a great launching pad to all the other countries in Southeast Asia.
That is definitely part of the attraction. I also like the tropical weather.
Yes I am a libertarian. Singapore has as freer economy than does the U.S. It's a good place to make money. Singapore is also a short flight to a lot of great places to vacation and have fun.
I don't use drugs and the WTO forced Singapore to allow the importation of gum.
On balance, it's a pretty nice place.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
That is definitely part of the attraction. I also like the tropical weather.
Yes I am a libertarian. Singapore has as freer economy than does the U.S. It's a good place to make money. Singapore is also a short flight to a lot of great places to vacation and have fun.
I don't use drugs and the WTO forced Singapore to allow the importation of gum.
On balance, it's a pretty nice place.
Yeah, it certainly has things going for it, and if you like that climate, all the better.
However...
I guess you're also not concerned with gun ownership?
There's also a bit a racism on the part of the ethnic Chinese there, from what I understand. I think I may have been a victim of it once when I was visiting. I was trying to hail a cab. It was pouring rain out. No cabs would stop for me. Instead, they would drive down the street and pick up a Chinese person. It also possible that they just couldn't pick me up where I was standing. I found out later that there are designated taxi stands in Singapore, but other times I was able to hail a cab anywhere, so I'm not sure. It just seemed suspicious to me.
Also, the government controls the media in Singapore, the very thing you were complaining about in regards to NPR. You realize that, right?
These are the reasons why I find it strange you would like Singapore so much.
I guess you're also not concerned with gun ownership?
I'm not leaving the U.S. If I did, I would look at Singapore, Costa Rica, maybe Panama, and the Philippines (just because my wife is from there).
Yes, gun ownership is something that concerns me, but I am mainly concerned with the ability to make a lot of money and keep as much of it as possible. In my business I need high speed internet access, access to a major airport, and low taxes.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
There's also a bit a racism on the part of the ethnic Chinese there, from what I understand. I think I may have been a victim of it once when I was visiting. I was trying to hail a cab. It was pouring rain out. No cabs would stop for me.
I've never experienced any racism there. A lot of the cab drivers are Polynesians. Some of them with give you an earful about the Chinese majority. It's no different than here.
You live in Japan. I've been to Japan 25+ times. I find Japanese society to be very racist. They are extraordinarily polite, but underneath you can tell that many of them just don't like you. There are bars and restaurants that don't allow non-Japanese (they post signs saying so). If you ask anyone in Tokyo about recommendations for restaurants or bars, they almost always point you to the Roppongi district, which is were many foreigners hang out. In spite of this I love to travel to Japan, but I could never live there.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
IT Consultant to large companies. I was a VP at a large consulting company that did business in 30+ countries on 4 continents. I started my own company last year.
"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
IT Consultant to large companies. I was a VP at a large consulting company that did business in 30+ countries on 4 continents. I started my own company last year.
I'm a software developer myself. Currently doing iPhone/iPad development and some Django/Python website development as well. Do you do any business in Japan?
You live in Japan. I've been to Japan 25+ times. I find Japanese society to be very racist. They are extraordinarily polite, but underneath you can tell that many of them just don't like you. There are bars and restaurants that don't allow non-Japanese (they post signs saying so).
I certainly cannot deny that racism exists in Japan, as it most certainly does. But not every Japanese person is a racist, and while it wasn't always easy (in large part because of language barrier), I have formed both business and personal relationships with Japanese people.
Honestly, at least here in Tokyo, there are hardly any places left that exclude foreigners. And what I'm discovering, is that the Japanese touts that hang outside business establishments trying to lure in customers, or now even trying to lure me, a gaijin, in. This used to never happen. I'm sure this is mostly happening due to the rather adverse economic situation in Japan (yes, gaijin-san's money is just as good as nihon-jin's!), but at least it's a start. But Japan has a long way to go.
If you ask anyone in Tokyo about recommendations for restaurants or bars, they almost always point you to the Roppongi district, which is were many foreigners hang out. In spite of this I love to travel to Japan, but I could never live there.
Ha ha! I hate Roppongi. It's the worst part of Tokyo. Well, I can recommend you places in other areas of Tokyo if you like. :-)
What's funny is that I'm starting to have Japanese people asking ME for recommendations. Again, something I wouldn't ever expect to happen in Japan. :-)
I've also had Japanese people tell me that the life of the foreigner in Japan is better and freer, because we don't have to conform to the norms of Japanese society. They may have a point.