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Title: 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.
Source: Heritage Foundation
URL Source: http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx
Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-10-22 17:46:19 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 49632
Comments: 100

15 freest countries:

Hong Kong89.7
Singapore86.1
Australia82.6
New Zealand82.1
Ireland81.3
Switzerland81.1
Canada80.4
United States78.0
Denmark77.9
Chile77.2
United Kingdom76.5
Mauritius76.3
Bahrain76.3
Luxombourg75.4
Netherlands75.0


U.S. drops from "free" to "mostly free". As usual, Hong Kong and Singapore are on top.

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#1. To: jwpegler (#0)

Title is :

Index of Economic Freedom World Rankings

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-22   18:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: WhiteSands (#1)

Words are not your friend.

No one else is either.

Bullet For Whitey  posted on  2010-10-22   19:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#0)

don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   19:17:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3) (Edited)

don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?

It depends on what you mean by that. They all have very different systems. Most of these countries have some mix of public and private, that includes some form of mandates on minimum coverage. For example:

New Zealand recently moved from a fully public system to a mixed public / private system. Everyone gets catastrophic insurance paid for by taxes that covers "accidents". Most incidental medical costs (like visits to general or family practitioners) are paid out of pocket.

Singapore also has a mixed private / public system, but it is all based on mandatory individual medical savings accounts. You have to save 8% and buy a catastrophic plan. You can use whatever is left over to pay incidental medical costs. Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.

Switzerland also has a mixed private / public system. The government mandates that everyone buy a basic health insurance plan. If basic insurance plan cost more than 8% of your income, the government will provide a cash subsidy to cover the rest. You can buy additional coverage if you'd like and also pay fees that aren't covered out of pocket.

Hong Kong also has a mixed private / public system. Users of government hospitals complain of long waiting times, an indifferent service attitude and lack of choice, while those who go to the private sector face high costs and variable service quality. The government just announced it will increase spending in an attempt to reduce wait times in public facilities.

I can go on and on with this.

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-22   19:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#4)

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.

Nope, but none have apparently lost their freedom despite various universal health care programs as the right argues will happen here.

I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom - think about how many are afraid to leave their jobs or pursue a start-up business because of fear of losing their insurance.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   20:00:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#3)

don't all the countries on that list, except the U.S., have universal health insurance?

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-22   20:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#3)

Doesn't everybody know polls and lists are worthless because they are easily skewed to achieve desired results?

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-22   20:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ibluafartsky (#6)

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

not that I know of, but given this is a Conservative Heritage Foundation list, I guess they don't correlate gun rights with economic freedom. Maybe you can complain to them?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   21:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#0)

How in the world is Singapore up there? I'll have to analyze the data.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-22   21:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Rudgear (#7)

Doesn't everybody know polls and lists are worthless because they are easily skewed to achieve desired results?

Well I certainly do but only when I disagree with them as is the case with most everybody.

Don't like the polls results...question the source and methods. Old hat stuff.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2010-10-22   21:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: meguro (#9)

From the FAQ:

http://www.heritage.org/index/FAQ.aspx

Q.3. How do you measure economic freedom?

We measure ten components of economic freedom, assigning a grade in each using a scale from 0 to 100, where 100 represents the maximum freedom. The ten component scores are then averaged to give an overall economic freedom score for each country. The ten components of economic freedom are:

Business Freedom | Trade Freedom | Fiscal Freedom | Government Spending | Monetary Freedom | Investment Freedom | Financial Freedom | Property rights | Freedom from Corruption | Labor Freedom


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   21:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#11)

Thank you. Based on the doctored title, I wasn't aware that it was specific to economic freedom at first.

BTW, was reading some of your exchanges with Badeye. Why do you waste your time with that clown?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-22   22:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: meguro (#12)

Thank you. Based on the doctored title, I wasn't aware that it was specific to economic freedom at first.

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-22   22:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Skip Intro (#13) (Edited)

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Yup. This site is hardly better than LP, especially considering that it's largely filled with past and present LP posters.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-22   22:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Bullet For Whitey (#2)

Hey dwarf:)

Lycra panties all twisted up again?

Or is it the spandex "ironman" sports bra that's got you spittin again?

BBBBWWWAAAAHHHAAA!!!!

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. No more need for famous Dwarfisms due to his journey to the land of irrelevance:):)....until his banning I'll leave the Jerxism up... To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-22   22:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: e_type_jag, A K A Stone (#15)

Fred and Skip Intro both use cracker.

Now we have Bullet for Whitey.

Escalation , because they are allowed to be race mongers .

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-22   22:55:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro, meguro (#13)

this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Yours is crying like a little girl.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-22   23:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#4)

Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.

Anyone can use the public hospitals (owned and operated by the government) and most do because the cost is lower. Government health care delivery competes with the private sector and acts as a control on prices.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-22   23:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: meguro (#12)

BTW, was reading some of your exchanges with Badeye. Why do you waste your time with that clown?

It takes my mind off some more important things right now. :-)


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   0:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#4)

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.

The US ranks 37th. Certainly we can do better than that.

Sixty-two percent of bankruptcies in the US have a medical cause according to The American Journal of Medicine.

Medical bankruptcy does not exist in countries with universal health coverage like Japan, Canada, Great Britain, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, and France, just to name a quick dozen.33; But, here in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world, medical debt forces many people into bankruptcy.

www.bankruptcylawnetwork....al-bankruptcy-is-no-myth/

The "Utopia" you claim the left dreams of has been achieved in all first world countries where people don't have to chose between health care and bankruptcy.

Oh wait - that's all of them except the US.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ibluafartsky (#6)

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

Maybe Somalia or Afghanistan, but then we usually don't think of those places as desirable places to put down roots and raise a family.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: WhiteSands (#16)

A bit off topic, don't you agree?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ibluafartsky (#17)

Yours is crying like a little girl.

and yours is breaking wind

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#21)

Maybe Somalia or Afghanistan

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#23)

breaking wind

You breath it.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ibluafartsky (#24)

by your measure, a lot

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ibluafartsky (#25)

Fortunately the smell doesn't travel the intertubes

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#26)

by your measure, a lot

Please elaborate.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Fortunately the smell doesn't travel the intertubes

Yes, liberals exude a foul stench.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Skip Intro (#13)

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Edited:

Title: ORLY TAITZ CALLS FOR SCOTUS TO ALLOW HER TO INVESTIGATE SCOTUS (And copies half the UN to boot)
Post Date: 2010-07-21 11:43:19 by Skip Intro

Fake:

Title: Your request is being processed... Sharron Angle Runs From Reporters At Her Own Press Conference
Post Date: 2010-07-22 14:21:27 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Palin blames media for unfavorable rating (Big Surprise There)
Post Date: 2010-08-01 11:34:13 by Skip Intro

Fake:

Title: Ted Olson Defends California's Gay Marriage Ruling On Fox News
Post Date: 2010-08-08 21:21:09 by Skip Intro

Fake:
Title: Jews give Obama above average approval rating
Post Date: 2010-08-27 16:36:54 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Angle strove religiously against black jerseys (because black is evil)
Post Date: 2010-08-20 14:42:59 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Blair reveals Syria’s fears were well-founded (Cheney wanted to invade)
Post Date: 2010-09-05 13:19:48 by Skip Intro

Faked:

Title: Republicans propose to make it illegal to be a Cornholing Fudgepacker in Montana
Post Date: 2010-09-24 14:38:50 by Skip Intro

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   1:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#22)

A bit off topic, don't you agree?

A poster pops up with a name Bullet for Whitey and feel replying to that racism is off topic.

Are you a a racist?

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   1:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: WhiteSands (#31)

A poster pops up with a name Bullet for Whitey and feel replying to that racism is off topic.

So then the topic is poster screen names and not 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.?

Okay. Got it.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   2:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: WhiteSands, Skip Intro (#30)

Hey Skip why are you a hypocrite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-23   7:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: WhiteSands (#31)

So is your name.

Thank you for suggesting a better one.

Bullet For WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   9:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Bullet For WhiteSands (#34)

You've got the stupid cracker looking back over her shoulder. LOLOL

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-23   9:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: e_type_jag (#15)

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-23   10:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky, lucysmom (#24)

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Lots more than here, very weak government, no gun control, little regulation, they are both conservative utopias.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   10:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)

About what, Stonehead?

Adding comments in brackets to article titles? It's always been allowed everywhere I've ever posted.

Making up one fake title? Well, you do it all the time so I'm just following your lead to see what you'd do. Since it was a change you approved of, you did nothing, like I thought you would.

The rest aren't fake; the idiot WS got it wrong.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-23   11:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65, Ibluafartsky (#37)

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Lots more than here, very weak government, no gun control, little regulation, they are both conservative utopias.

Afghanistan does have an income tax so blu may prefer taking his guns to Somalia.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   11:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: go65 (#5) (Edited)

I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom

Again, I support something like the Singapore system.

A.) Everybody has to save at least 8% of their income. They can use the money to buy catastrophic insurance, pay for incidental medical expenses, or both.

B.) If you don't earn enough to buy insurance, the government will subsidize your savings. This would replace Medicaid.

C.) Healthcare providers must publish prices and outcomes.

D.) Eliminate state laws which restrict competition in providing health insurance.

That program would work here. Everyone would have coverage (that they buy themselves) for catastrophic conditions. They have to pay out of pocket for everything else, which would force prices down. It's what Switzerland, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, and many other countries do. America has gone in the opposite direction over the last 50 years, which is why our system is so screwed up. Obamacare is more of the same bad policies, which is one reason prices are already escalating.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: meguro (#9)

How in the world is Singapore up there?

I've been to Singapore many times. It is a really, really nice place. In fact, if I ever decided to leave the U.S., Singapore would be on my very short list of places to move.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#18)

Anyone can use the public hospitals (owned and operated by the government) and most do because the cost is lower.

You are making things up again, which is why I refuse to engage you in a conversation any longer.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: jwpegler (#42)

You are making things up again, which is why I refuse to engage you in a conversation any longer.

No, I'm not making it up, you just don't bother to read; not on your own and not the links I've provided in the past.

One more time:

# "The private healthcare system competes with the public healthcare, which helps contain prices in both directions. Private medical insurance is also available."

...

# The government pays for "basic healthcare services... subject to tight expenditure control." Bottom line: The government pays 80% of "basic public healthcare services."

econlog.econlib.org/archi...8/01/singapores_heal.html

Conservatives are right: Singaporeans have the kind of "skin in the game" that promotes prudence.

But that's only half the story. There's also a massive public role. For starters, adequate savings for retirement and health expenses are mandated by government (employees must sock away 20 percent of earnings each year, to which employers add 13 percent). Public hospitals provide 80 percent of the acute care, setting affordable pricing benchmarks with which private providers compete. Supply-side rules that favor training new family doctors over pricey specialists are more extensive than similar notions Hillary Clinton pushed in the '90s. And in Singapore, if a child is obese, they don't get Rose Garden exhortations from the first lady. They get no lunch and mandatory exercise periods during school.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp...3/03/AR2010030301396.html

Close your eyes, cover your ears, and repeat "Lalalalalalalalalala" as loud as you can, but it does not change the facts.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   13:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#43) (Edited)

Right, and Singapore censors the media and "cains" people who chew gum.

Don't believe anything you read in the American press about Singapore.

I've been to Singapore many times. My company has an office there. We do business with the Singapore Hospital Authority.

Yes Singapore has government hospitals. So does the U.S. They are called County Hospitals. My two sisters were born in a county hospital. They existed long before the federal government ruined our healthcare system. I've told you this dozens of times before, but it just doesn't sink in.

No, the government does NOT pay for basic health services in Singapore. The government pays about 30% of healthcare expenditures, compared to about 50% in the U.S. No matter what your income level is, you have to pay part of the bill yourself out of your medical savings account. You are required to save money for healthcare.

The reason prices are low in Singapore is primary due to people having to pay their own bills, just like you pay your own grocery bill. Singapore created a nation of healthcare shoppers, while the U.S. created a nation of people who leech off of the productive part of the economy.

You have no real world experience. You Google something and post the first piece of garbage that fits your preconceived notions. This is why I am not going to respond to you any longer.

Bozo bit flipped.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   13:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: jwpegler (#44)

I've been to Singapore many times. My company has an office there. We do business with the Singapore Hospital Authority.

I've been to India, and even been a patient in India, in addition I was given a private tour of Indian health care facilities guided by the head of Department of Medical Health and Family Welfare in the state of Uttar Pradesh but I'm smart enough to know that that doesn't make me an expert on Indian health care.

BTW, I have experience with Egyptian health care too.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   14:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#45) (Edited)

I've been to India, and even been a patient in India, in addition I was given a private tour of Indian health care facilities guided by the head of Department of Medical Health and Family Welfare in the state of Uttar Pradesh but I'm smart enough to know that that doesn't make me an expert on Indian health care.

But I am a consultant who does business with these people. We have a huge focus on healthcare. We are paid to help our customers turn their challenges into opportunities through the proper and cost effective adoption of technology.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   14:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Singapore Healthcare Thread has moved over here.

Anyone who is concerned about what to do with Obamacare would benefit by reading this.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   14:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lucysmom (#32) (Edited)

So then the topic is poster screen names and not 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.?

Given that terms such as Cracker or Bullets to Whitey aren't topics or even issues for you, you may be a racist.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   15:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: jwpegler (#47) (Edited)

Singapore is dictatorship that mandates exercise and jails homosexuals. Its population is almost 80% Chinese.

Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the United States

Ethnic Groups Show Different Cardiovascular Risk Profiles: Chinese Have Lowest Levels of Heart Disease While South Asians Have Highest- Apr. 19, 2010 [snip]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100419132349.htm

[snip]

There are striking differences in the cardiovascular risk profiles of four ethnic groups -- white, Chinese, South Asian and black -- living in Ontario, Canada, found a new study in CMAJ.

[Snip]

The researchers found that the Chinese population had the lowest overall prevalence of heart disease (3.2%) and stroke (0.6%)

[snip]

"Despite universal access to health care, ethnic groups living in Ontario, differed markedly in their cardiovascular risk profiles," writes Ms. Maria Chiu and Dr. Jack Tu, Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences (ICES)

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   15:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone, Skip 'I-want-to-help-kill-posters-here' Intro (#38)

Adding comments in brackets to article titles? It's always been allowed everywhere I've ever posted.


Making up one fake title?

Fake 1:

Ted Olson Defends California's Gay Marriage Ruling On Fox News

Post Date: 2010-08-08 21:21:09 by Skip Intro

True Title:
Ted Olson On FNS: ‘Would You Like Fox’s Right To Free Press Put Up To A Vote?’

============

Fake 2:

Jews give Obama above average approval rating

Post Date: 2010-08-27 16:36:54 by Skip Intro

True Title:

Jews still like Obama, but approval dips

============

Fake 3:

Republicans propose to make it illegal to be a Cornholing Fudgepacker in Montana

Post Date: 2010-09-24 14:38:50 by Skip Intro

True Title:
Republicans propose to make it illegal to be gay in Montana

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   17:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Fred Mertz, Bullet For WhiteSands, A K A Stone (#35)

You've got the stupid cracker looking back over her shoulder. LOLOL

You feel his screen name is a threat to me.

And given that you advocate shooting those you disagree with ,you have no issue with it.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   17:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: meguro, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz (#14)

Yup. This site is hardly better than LP, especially considering that it's largely filled with past and present LP posters.

You share a kindred spirit with the posters here that believe people should be shot based on their political views.

Skip Intro and Fred Mertz.

Sad man.

Really sad.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   17:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: WhiteSands, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz.meguro (#52)

You share a kindred spirit with the posters here that believe people should be shot based on their political views.

Skip Intro and Fred Mertz.

Sad man.

Really sad.

They are all just fookin liberal, tyrannical assholes.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   20:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#39)

Afghanistan does have an income tax

Is that your "elaboration", goofball?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   20:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: go65 (#37)

very weak government,

little regulation

they are both conservative utopias.

Weak? A government that controls the populace with violence? You need to stop imbibing!

Oh? How about freedom of religion and speech?

What a moronic statement!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   20:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: e_type_jag, dwarf, aka, Bullet For Whitey (#15)

Hey dwarf:)

Lycra panties all twisted up again?

Or is it the spandex "ironman" sports bra that's got you spittin again?

BBBBWWWAAAAHHHAAA!!!!

LMAO!!! "'Ironman' sports bra"!!!

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   20:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ibluafartsky (#54)

Is that your "elaboration", goofball?

Just saying, blu, that seeing as how taxation is an issue for you, Somalia might be more to your liking - gun yes, taxes no and all.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   21:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: lucysmom (#57)

Just saying,

Somalia might be more to your liking

Just saying isn't elaborating.

Another moronic statement. You are indeed, CLUELESS!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   21:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ibluafartsky (#55)

Weak? A government that controls the populace with violence? You need to stop imbibing!

there is virtually no government in Somalia, you really should consider moving there.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   21:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: go65 (#59)

there is virtually no government in Somalia,

Do you pride yourself in posting stupid comments?

Somalia's Hizbul Islam: We Will Negotiate With Government

7 hours ago

Sheikh Hassan Mahdi, a high-ranking official with Hizbul Islam, told a Mogadishu radio station the group is ready to talk with the Somali government

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   21:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: WhiteSands, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz (#52) (Edited)

You share a kindred spirit with the posters here that believe people should be shot based on their political views.

So says the wacko who supports bombing "liberal cities."

Fuck off, Whitey, you mental case.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-23   22:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ibluafartsky (#60)

Sheikh Hassan Mahdi, a high-ranking official with Hizbul Islam, told a Mogadishu radio station the group is ready to talk with the Somali government

Then you'd better hurry up, you're opportunity to live a tax free, regulation free, gun toten', libertarian fantasy may be coming to an end.

From Wikipedia

Somalia, from 1991 to 2006, is cited as a real-world example of a stateless society and legal system.[1][2] Since the fall of Siad Barre's government in January 1991, there had been no permanent national government in Somalia[3] until the current Transitional Federal Government. Large areas of the country such as Puntland, and Galmudug are internationally unrecognized autonomous regions, while Somaliland is a de facto sovereign state. The remaining areas, including the capital Mogadishu, were divided into smaller territories ruled by competing warlords. In many areas there were (and still are) no formal regulations or licensing requirements for businesses and individuals.

Somalia is currently claimed as the sovereign territory of the Transitional Federal Government, internationally recognized as the Government of Somalia. Before December 2006, the TFG controlled only the town of Baidoa, the sixth largest city.[3] The intervention of Ethiopian government forces following the rise of the Islamic Courts Union, culminating in the latter's defeat in the Battle of Baidoa, allowed the TFG to expand its control under the protection of the Ethiopians. The TFG has not been able to effectively collect taxes, has no notable finances or real power base,[4] and has struggled to exert control over Mogadishu since an attempted move in late December 2006.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   22:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: lucysmom (#62)

From Wikipedia December 2006.

You fookin morons just can't help yourselves, can you?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   22:08:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: meguro, Skid Mark, Mrs. Bullet (#61)

So says the wacko who supports bombing "liberal cities."

They're already unofficially self-bombing their own liberal cities. Have you seen Detroit?

Liberal PCism helped Muslims bomb NYC on 9/11. NO "profiling" inevitably means "liberal cities" will be cratered from within or without.

You, Meguro, are the one who supports the extermination of pre-born babies and Christians, you flaming fascist.

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: jwpegler (#41) (Edited)

I've been to Singapore many times. It is a really, really nice place. In fact, if I ever decided to leave the U.S., Singapore would be on my very short list of places to move.

Really? Surprised to hear this from someone who strikes me as somewhat of a libertarian (perhaps I've miscategorized your political position?).

I've been there a couple of times myself, most recently last year (I happen to currently live in Tokyo, Japan), and while aspects of it are indeed nice (great food!), you do realize that it has a rather authoritarian government, no? Almost kind of a benign dictatorship... very little political freedom.

But I guess as long as you steer clear of speaking out against the government, drugs, and chewing gum (:- ) ) you'll be fine.

Personally I find it a bit too orderly for my tastes, but it would be a great launching pad to all the other countries in Southeast Asia.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-23   22:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: meguro (#9)

How in the world is Singapore up there? I'll have to analyze the data.

I'll save you the time; They're "free" to surgically become boys-from-girls, or girls-from-boys at the drop of a hat. Isn't that "freedom" to you?

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:25:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: meguro (#14)

This site is hardly better than LP, especially considering that it's largely filled with past and present LP posters.

But I don't understand; Do you expect gay Leftists festooning either site? Has it ever occurred to you that you're at the wrong forum either way?

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: lucysmom (#20)

The US ranks 37th. Certainly we can do better than that.

We can if not for leftist loons running amok and completely f***ing the country up with its ever gargantuan over governance and regulations, it's obsessive "diversity-is-our-strength" mantra, its socialism, it's moral relativism, its sabotage of education, the economy, and American industry during the last 20 years or so.

Medical bankruptcy does not exist in countries with universal health coverage like Japan, Canada, Great Britain, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, and France, just to name a quick dozen.33;33; But, here in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world, medical debt forces many people into bankruptcy.

Yes, but those countries are basically racially or nationally monolithic, and of whom don't have to cover 30 million illegals invaders, and NEVER have to spend a fraction of their GNP on national defense. WE'VE ALWAYS paid for theirs. Moreover, their health care is grossly INFERIOR. Especially in the non-Scandinavian countries and Switzerland.

You have also discounted the regulatory nightmare, liability (thanks to lawyers), and rampant fraud and lawsuits here in America.

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:43:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone, Skid Mark (#33)

Hey Skip why are you a hypocrite?

You forget "fat," "stupid," and "drunk."

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tampon For Fred Mertz, WhiteSands (#35)

You've got the stupid cracker looking back over her shoulder. LOLOL

And Freddy, you are still sniffing around for and braying heavily for Dwarf's lycra-skin blend sack.

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#69)

I'm starting to think hypocrites invented the Democrat party as something to inhabit. Not the other way around. That and the wheels came of Skivvy's wagon when war got shown the door. Sad watching them bumble around.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-23   22:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: jwpegler, lucysmom (#44)

The reason prices are low in Singapore is primary due to people having to pay their own bills, just like you pay your own grocery bill. Singapore created a nation of healthcare shoppers, while the U.S. created a nation of people who leech off of the productive part of the economy.

Well stated.

Mom of Lucy - please fire up another bowl of weed, incense stick, and 'Strawberry Alarm Clock' album, and contemplate this.

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   22:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone (#71)

I'm starting to think hypocrites invented the Democrat party as something to inhabit. Not the other way around. That and the wheels came of Skivvy's wagon when war got shown the door. Sad watching them bumble around.

"Sad"? Yeah, in a clinical sense. Funny in an entertainment value sense.

Liberals require enablers and other parrots to validate their insanity and self-denials. It's truly amazing to note how unprincipled these people are, and how the "truth" is ALWAYS relative.

There can be no such thing as a sane liberal-Leftist.

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   23:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: meguro (#61)

I don't support bombing liberal cities.

I agree with them, that the US should not defend them.

It's your syph talking again.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   23:04:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Liberator (#73)

Liberals require enablers and other parrots to validate their insanity and self-denials. It's truly amazing to note how unprincipled these people are, and how the "truth" is ALWAYS relative.

That's what the Democrat party is for. It justifies, perpetuates and houses unprincipled people.

Some people are just no damn good. Born rotten, greedy and self-absorbed and dammit, they deserve political representation, too!

I just wish there was a way to hijack their computer cams. I'd love to see their expressions as they eat shit in this election.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-23   23:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Liberator (#68)

Yes, but...

Excuses are like a**holes, every bodys got one.

...NEVER have to spend a fraction of their GNP on national defense. WE'VE ALWAYS paid for theirs.

Japan, 0.8% GDP; Canada, 1.1% GDP; Great Britain, 2.4% GDP; Taiwan, 2.2% GDP; Germany, 1.5% GDP; Italy, 1.8% GDP; Switzerland, 1% of GDP; Sweden, 1.5% GDP; Norway, 1.9% GDP; Austria, 0.8% GDP; Finland, 2% GDP; France, 2.6% GDP.

Guess they do pay a fraction of their GDP on defense. Just for comparison, the US spends 4.6% GDP and ranks 25th. Twenty-four countries spend a higher percentage of their GDP on defense including Singapore which spends 4.9% GDP.

Moreover, their health care is grossly INFERIOR. Especially in the non-Scandinavian countries and Switzerland.

Okay - same list: Japan, ranks 10th; Canada, ranks 30th; Great Britain,ranks 18; Taiwan*, Germany, ranks 25; Italy, ranks 2; Switzerland, ranks 20 (second highest cost after the US) Sweden, ranks 23; Norway, ranks 11; Austria, ranks 9; Finland, ranks 31; and France ranks number 1.

* Taiwan gets healthy; America should look to Taiwan as a model on healthcare. After all, Taiwan based its successful new system on US Medicare.

webcache.googleuserconten...nk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

You have also discounted the regulatory nightmare, liability (thanks to lawyers), and rampant fraud and lawsuits here in America.

Of course your talking corporate fraud and doctors suing their HMO employers and drug companies suing each other. A lot of that suing and fraud stuff going on in the private sector.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   23:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#72)

please fire up another bowl of weed...

I'm not your servant.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   23:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Ibluafartsky (#60)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_in_Somalia

A conservative paradise from 1991 to 2006.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-24   0:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: lucysmom, ibluafartsky (#62)

The TFG has not been able to effectively collect taxes, has no notable finances or real power base,[4] and has struggled to exert control over Mogadishu since an attempted move in late December 2006

Hey Fartsky, let us know what kind of home you find there.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-24   0:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: go65, ibluafartsky (#79)

Hey Fartsky, let us know what kind of home you find there.

I doubt he'll take the opportunity to be all he can be without government on his back.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-24   0:42:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: lucysmom (#80)

I doubt he'll take the opportunity to be all he can be without government on his back.

Off topic and lacks empathy

Does display your continued hypocrisy though.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-24   0:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: WhiteSands (#81)

Off topic and lacks empathy

Off topic? We is talking about comparative freedom right?

As for empathy - depends on your point of view, I guess.

Does display your continued hypocrisy though.

Funny, I was just thinking that about you.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-24   1:33:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: lucysmom (#82)

As for empathy - depends on your point of view, I guess.

You disagree with the following points of view:

Jesus said: “as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise."

Mohamed said: "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you."

Rabbi Hillel said: “What is hateful to yourself, do not do to your fellow man. That is the whole Torah; the rest is just commentary.”

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-24   1:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: go65 (#79)

let us know what kind of home you find there.

The TFG has not been able to effectively collect taxes, has no notable finances or real power base

Why would I be looking for a home in Africa? You liberals are really retarded.

Yet it survives.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-24   1:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: WhiteSands (#83)

You disagree with the following points of view...

Why would you think that?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-24   2:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: WhiteSands (#74)

I agree with them, that the US should not defend them.

Who's "them", Whitey? The demons in your head?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-24   4:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: meguro, WhiteSands (#61)

Fuck off, Whitey, you mental case.

Well stated. Yeah, fuck off Whitey.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-24   8:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Rudgear, Luberator, WhiteCracker (#71)

That and the wheels came of Skivvy's wagon when war got shown the door.

War wasn't shown the door. He departed on his own accord.

I'm certain aka loser will be happy to verify this fact.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-24   8:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Ibluafartsky (#84) (Edited)

Why would I be looking for a home in Africa? You liberals are really retarded.

You'd rather live under socialism?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-24   10:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: meguro (#65) (Edited)

but it would be a great launching pad to all the other countries in Southeast Asia.

That is definitely part of the attraction. I also like the tropical weather.

Yes I am a libertarian. Singapore has as freer economy than does the U.S. It's a good place to make money. Singapore is also a short flight to a lot of great places to vacation and have fun.

I don't use drugs and the WTO forced Singapore to allow the importation of gum.

On balance, it's a pretty nice place.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-24   11:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: jwpegler (#90) (Edited)

That is definitely part of the attraction. I also like the tropical weather.

Yes I am a libertarian. Singapore has as freer economy than does the U.S. It's a good place to make money. Singapore is also a short flight to a lot of great places to vacation and have fun.

I don't use drugs and the WTO forced Singapore to allow the importation of gum.

On balance, it's a pretty nice place.

Yeah, it certainly has things going for it, and if you like that climate, all the better.

However...

I guess you're also not concerned with gun ownership?

There's also a bit a racism on the part of the ethnic Chinese there, from what I understand. I think I may have been a victim of it once when I was visiting. I was trying to hail a cab. It was pouring rain out. No cabs would stop for me. Instead, they would drive down the street and pick up a Chinese person. It also possible that they just couldn't pick me up where I was standing. I found out later that there are designated taxi stands in Singapore, but other times I was able to hail a cab anywhere, so I'm not sure. It just seemed suspicious to me.

Also, the government controls the media in Singapore, the very thing you were complaining about in regards to NPR. You realize that, right?

These are the reasons why I find it strange you would like Singapore so much.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-24   11:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: meguro (#91)

I guess you're also not concerned with gun ownership?

I'm not leaving the U.S. If I did, I would look at Singapore, Costa Rica, maybe Panama, and the Philippines (just because my wife is from there).

Yes, gun ownership is something that concerns me, but I am mainly concerned with the ability to make a lot of money and keep as much of it as possible. In my business I need high speed internet access, access to a major airport, and low taxes.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-24   12:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: jwpegler (#92)

In my business I need high speed internet access, access to a major airport, and low taxes.

What's your business, if I may ask?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-24   12:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: meguro (#91) (Edited)

There's also a bit a racism on the part of the ethnic Chinese there, from what I understand. I think I may have been a victim of it once when I was visiting. I was trying to hail a cab. It was pouring rain out. No cabs would stop for me.

I've never experienced any racism there. A lot of the cab drivers are Polynesians. Some of them with give you an earful about the Chinese majority. It's no different than here.

You live in Japan. I've been to Japan 25+ times. I find Japanese society to be very racist. They are extraordinarily polite, but underneath you can tell that many of them just don't like you. There are bars and restaurants that don't allow non-Japanese (they post signs saying so). If you ask anyone in Tokyo about recommendations for restaurants or bars, they almost always point you to the Roppongi district, which is were many foreigners hang out. In spite of this I love to travel to Japan, but I could never live there.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-24   12:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: meguro (#93)

What's your business, if I may ask?

IT Consultant to large companies. I was a VP at a large consulting company that did business in 30+ countries on 4 continents. I started my own company last year.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-24   12:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: go65 (#89)

You'd rather live under socialism?

You need psychiatric evaluation.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-24   13:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Fred Mertz, meguro, WhiteSands (#87)

fuck off Whitey.

Trolling again faggot freddie?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-24   13:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: jwpegler (#95)

IT Consultant to large companies. I was a VP at a large consulting company that did business in 30+ countries on 4 continents. I started my own company last year.

I'm a software developer myself. Currently doing iPhone/iPad development and some Django/Python website development as well. Do you do any business in Japan?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-24   22:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: jwpegler (#94)

You live in Japan. I've been to Japan 25+ times. I find Japanese society to be very racist. They are extraordinarily polite, but underneath you can tell that many of them just don't like you. There are bars and restaurants that don't allow non-Japanese (they post signs saying so).

I certainly cannot deny that racism exists in Japan, as it most certainly does. But not every Japanese person is a racist, and while it wasn't always easy (in large part because of language barrier), I have formed both business and personal relationships with Japanese people.

Honestly, at least here in Tokyo, there are hardly any places left that exclude foreigners. And what I'm discovering, is that the Japanese touts that hang outside business establishments trying to lure in customers, or now even trying to lure me, a gaijin, in. This used to never happen. I'm sure this is mostly happening due to the rather adverse economic situation in Japan (yes, gaijin-san's money is just as good as nihon-jin's!), but at least it's a start. But Japan has a long way to go.

If you ask anyone in Tokyo about recommendations for restaurants or bars, they almost always point you to the Roppongi district, which is were many foreigners hang out. In spite of this I love to travel to Japan, but I could never live there.

Ha ha! I hate Roppongi. It's the worst part of Tokyo. Well, I can recommend you places in other areas of Tokyo if you like. :-)

What's funny is that I'm starting to have Japanese people asking ME for recommendations. Again, something I wouldn't ever expect to happen in Japan. :-)

I've also had Japanese people tell me that the life of the foreigner in Japan is better and freer, because we don't have to conform to the norms of Japanese society. They may have a point.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-24   22:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Fred Mertz (#87)

Has your top answered yet?

To: war

”Am I a liberal or a conservative?”
Fred Mertz posted on 2010-06-16 11:39:38 ET

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-25   1:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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