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Title: 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.
Source: Heritage Foundation
URL Source: http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx
Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: staff
Post Date: 2010-10-22 17:46:19 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 49787
Comments: 100

15 freest countries:

Hong Kong89.7
Singapore86.1
Australia82.6
New Zealand82.1
Ireland81.3
Switzerland81.1
Canada80.4
United States78.0
Denmark77.9
Chile77.2
United Kingdom76.5
Mauritius76.3
Bahrain76.3
Luxombourg75.4
Netherlands75.0


U.S. drops from "free" to "mostly free". As usual, Hong Kong and Singapore are on top.

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#17. To: Skip Intro, meguro (#13)

this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Yours is crying like a little girl.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-22   23:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#4)

Public hospitals have strict means testing with subsidies ranging from 40% to 80% of the bill for the poor.

Anyone can use the public hospitals (owned and operated by the government) and most do because the cost is lower. Government health care delivery competes with the private sector and acts as a control on prices.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-22   23:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: meguro (#12)

BTW, was reading some of your exchanges with Badeye. Why do you waste your time with that clown?

It takes my mind off some more important things right now. :-)


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   0:03:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#4)

No one has the kind of Utopian government run system that the American left dreams about.

The US ranks 37th. Certainly we can do better than that.

Sixty-two percent of bankruptcies in the US have a medical cause according to The American Journal of Medicine.

Medical bankruptcy does not exist in countries with universal health coverage like Japan, Canada, Great Britain, Taiwan, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, and France, just to name a quick dozen.33; But, here in the wealthiest, most powerful country in the world, medical debt forces many people into bankruptcy.

www.bankruptcylawnetwork....al-bankruptcy-is-no-myth/

The "Utopia" you claim the left dreams of has been achieved in all first world countries where people don't have to chose between health care and bankruptcy.

Oh wait - that's all of them except the US.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:19:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ibluafartsky (#6)

Do any of those countries allow concealed carry?

Maybe Somalia or Afghanistan, but then we usually don't think of those places as desirable places to put down roots and raise a family.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: WhiteSands (#16)

A bit off topic, don't you agree?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ibluafartsky (#17)

Yours is crying like a little girl.

and yours is breaking wind

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lucysmom (#21)

Maybe Somalia or Afghanistan

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#23)

breaking wind

You breath it.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ibluafartsky (#24)

by your measure, a lot

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ibluafartsky (#25)

Fortunately the smell doesn't travel the intertubes

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   0:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#26)

by your measure, a lot

Please elaborate.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#27)

Fortunately the smell doesn't travel the intertubes

Yes, liberals exude a foul stench.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   0:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Skip Intro (#13)

Doctoring titles is this site's most distinctive characteristic.

Edited:

Title: ORLY TAITZ CALLS FOR SCOTUS TO ALLOW HER TO INVESTIGATE SCOTUS (And copies half the UN to boot)
Post Date: 2010-07-21 11:43:19 by Skip Intro

Fake:

Title: Your request is being processed... Sharron Angle Runs From Reporters At Her Own Press Conference
Post Date: 2010-07-22 14:21:27 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Palin blames media for unfavorable rating (Big Surprise There)
Post Date: 2010-08-01 11:34:13 by Skip Intro

Fake:

Title: Ted Olson Defends California's Gay Marriage Ruling On Fox News
Post Date: 2010-08-08 21:21:09 by Skip Intro

Fake:
Title: Jews give Obama above average approval rating
Post Date: 2010-08-27 16:36:54 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Angle strove religiously against black jerseys (because black is evil)
Post Date: 2010-08-20 14:42:59 by Skip Intro

Edited:

Title: Blair reveals Syria’s fears were well-founded (Cheney wanted to invade)
Post Date: 2010-09-05 13:19:48 by Skip Intro

Faked:

Title: Republicans propose to make it illegal to be a Cornholing Fudgepacker in Montana
Post Date: 2010-09-24 14:38:50 by Skip Intro

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   1:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#22)

A bit off topic, don't you agree?

A poster pops up with a name Bullet for Whitey and feel replying to that racism is off topic.

Are you a a racist?

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   1:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: WhiteSands (#31)

A poster pops up with a name Bullet for Whitey and feel replying to that racism is off topic.

So then the topic is poster screen names and not 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.?

Okay. Got it.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   2:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: WhiteSands, Skip Intro (#30)

Hey Skip why are you a hypocrite?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-23   7:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: WhiteSands (#31)

So is your name.

Thank you for suggesting a better one.

Bullet For WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   9:13:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Bullet For WhiteSands (#34)

You've got the stupid cracker looking back over her shoulder. LOLOL

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-23   9:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: e_type_jag (#15)

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-23   10:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky, lucysmom (#24)

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Lots more than here, very weak government, no gun control, little regulation, they are both conservative utopias.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-23   10:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)

About what, Stonehead?

Adding comments in brackets to article titles? It's always been allowed everywhere I've ever posted.

Making up one fake title? Well, you do it all the time so I'm just following your lead to see what you'd do. Since it was a change you approved of, you did nothing, like I thought you would.

The rest aren't fake; the idiot WS got it wrong.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-23   11:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65, Ibluafartsky (#37)

How much freedom of any kind is there in either of your example countries?

Lots more than here, very weak government, no gun control, little regulation, they are both conservative utopias.

Afghanistan does have an income tax so blu may prefer taking his guns to Somalia.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   11:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: go65 (#5) (Edited)

I think people lose sight of the fact that universal health insurance means more freedom

Again, I support something like the Singapore system.

A.) Everybody has to save at least 8% of their income. They can use the money to buy catastrophic insurance, pay for incidental medical expenses, or both.

B.) If you don't earn enough to buy insurance, the government will subsidize your savings. This would replace Medicaid.

C.) Healthcare providers must publish prices and outcomes.

D.) Eliminate state laws which restrict competition in providing health insurance.

That program would work here. Everyone would have coverage (that they buy themselves) for catastrophic conditions. They have to pay out of pocket for everything else, which would force prices down. It's what Switzerland, New Zealand, Singapore, Hong Kong, and many other countries do. America has gone in the opposite direction over the last 50 years, which is why our system is so screwed up. Obamacare is more of the same bad policies, which is one reason prices are already escalating.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: meguro (#9)

How in the world is Singapore up there?

I've been to Singapore many times. It is a really, really nice place. In fact, if I ever decided to leave the U.S., Singapore would be on my very short list of places to move.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: lucysmom (#18)

Anyone can use the public hospitals (owned and operated by the government) and most do because the cost is lower.

You are making things up again, which is why I refuse to engage you in a conversation any longer.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: jwpegler (#42)

You are making things up again, which is why I refuse to engage you in a conversation any longer.

No, I'm not making it up, you just don't bother to read; not on your own and not the links I've provided in the past.

One more time:

# "The private healthcare system competes with the public healthcare, which helps contain prices in both directions. Private medical insurance is also available."

...

# The government pays for "basic healthcare services... subject to tight expenditure control." Bottom line: The government pays 80% of "basic public healthcare services."

econlog.econlib.org/archi...8/01/singapores_heal.html

Conservatives are right: Singaporeans have the kind of "skin in the game" that promotes prudence.

But that's only half the story. There's also a massive public role. For starters, adequate savings for retirement and health expenses are mandated by government (employees must sock away 20 percent of earnings each year, to which employers add 13 percent). Public hospitals provide 80 percent of the acute care, setting affordable pricing benchmarks with which private providers compete. Supply-side rules that favor training new family doctors over pricey specialists are more extensive than similar notions Hillary Clinton pushed in the '90s. And in Singapore, if a child is obese, they don't get Rose Garden exhortations from the first lady. They get no lunch and mandatory exercise periods during school.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp...3/03/AR2010030301396.html

Close your eyes, cover your ears, and repeat "Lalalalalalalalalala" as loud as you can, but it does not change the facts.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   13:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#43) (Edited)

Right, and Singapore censors the media and "cains" people who chew gum.

Don't believe anything you read in the American press about Singapore.

I've been to Singapore many times. My company has an office there. We do business with the Singapore Hospital Authority.

Yes Singapore has government hospitals. So does the U.S. They are called County Hospitals. My two sisters were born in a county hospital. They existed long before the federal government ruined our healthcare system. I've told you this dozens of times before, but it just doesn't sink in.

No, the government does NOT pay for basic health services in Singapore. The government pays about 30% of healthcare expenditures, compared to about 50% in the U.S. No matter what your income level is, you have to pay part of the bill yourself out of your medical savings account. You are required to save money for healthcare.

The reason prices are low in Singapore is primary due to people having to pay their own bills, just like you pay your own grocery bill. Singapore created a nation of healthcare shoppers, while the U.S. created a nation of people who leech off of the productive part of the economy.

You have no real world experience. You Google something and post the first piece of garbage that fits your preconceived notions. This is why I am not going to respond to you any longer.

Bozo bit flipped.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   13:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: jwpegler (#44)

I've been to Singapore many times. My company has an office there. We do business with the Singapore Hospital Authority.

I've been to India, and even been a patient in India, in addition I was given a private tour of Indian health care facilities guided by the head of Department of Medical Health and Family Welfare in the state of Uttar Pradesh but I'm smart enough to know that that doesn't make me an expert on Indian health care.

BTW, I have experience with Egyptian health care too.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   14:10:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#45) (Edited)

I've been to India, and even been a patient in India, in addition I was given a private tour of Indian health care facilities guided by the head of Department of Medical Health and Family Welfare in the state of Uttar Pradesh but I'm smart enough to know that that doesn't make me an expert on Indian health care.

But I am a consultant who does business with these people. We have a huge focus on healthcare. We are paid to help our customers turn their challenges into opportunities through the proper and cost effective adoption of technology.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   14:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Singapore Healthcare Thread has moved over here.

Anyone who is concerned about what to do with Obamacare would benefit by reading this.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   14:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lucysmom (#32) (Edited)

So then the topic is poster screen names and not 2010 Freedom Index -- Canada more Free than U.S.?

Given that terms such as Cracker or Bullets to Whitey aren't topics or even issues for you, you may be a racist.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   15:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: jwpegler (#47) (Edited)

Singapore is dictatorship that mandates exercise and jails homosexuals. Its population is almost 80% Chinese.

Heart disease is the leading cause of death in the United States

Ethnic Groups Show Different Cardiovascular Risk Profiles: Chinese Have Lowest Levels of Heart Disease While South Asians Have Highest- Apr. 19, 2010 [snip]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100419132349.htm

[snip]

There are striking differences in the cardiovascular risk profiles of four ethnic groups -- white, Chinese, South Asian and black -- living in Ontario, Canada, found a new study in CMAJ.

[Snip]

The researchers found that the Chinese population had the lowest overall prevalence of heart disease (3.2%) and stroke (0.6%)

[snip]

"Despite universal access to health care, ethnic groups living in Ontario, differed markedly in their cardiovascular risk profiles," writes Ms. Maria Chiu and Dr. Jack Tu, Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences (ICES)

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   15:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone, Skip 'I-want-to-help-kill-posters-here' Intro (#38)

Adding comments in brackets to article titles? It's always been allowed everywhere I've ever posted.


Making up one fake title?

Fake 1:

Ted Olson Defends California's Gay Marriage Ruling On Fox News

Post Date: 2010-08-08 21:21:09 by Skip Intro

True Title:
Ted Olson On FNS: ‘Would You Like Fox’s Right To Free Press Put Up To A Vote?’

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Fake 2:

Jews give Obama above average approval rating

Post Date: 2010-08-27 16:36:54 by Skip Intro

True Title:

Jews still like Obama, but approval dips

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Fake 3:

Republicans propose to make it illegal to be a Cornholing Fudgepacker in Montana

Post Date: 2010-09-24 14:38:50 by Skip Intro

True Title:
Republicans propose to make it illegal to be gay in Montana

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   17:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Fred Mertz, Bullet For WhiteSands, A K A Stone (#35)

You've got the stupid cracker looking back over her shoulder. LOLOL

You feel his screen name is a threat to me.

And given that you advocate shooting those you disagree with ,you have no issue with it.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   17:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: meguro, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz (#14)

Yup. This site is hardly better than LP, especially considering that it's largely filled with past and present LP posters.

You share a kindred spirit with the posters here that believe people should be shot based on their political views.

Skip Intro and Fred Mertz.

Sad man.

Really sad.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-23   17:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: WhiteSands, Skip Intro, Fred Mertz.meguro (#52)

You share a kindred spirit with the posters here that believe people should be shot based on their political views.

Skip Intro and Fred Mertz.

Sad man.

Really sad.

They are all just fookin liberal, tyrannical assholes.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   20:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#39)

Afghanistan does have an income tax

Is that your "elaboration", goofball?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   20:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: go65 (#37)

very weak government,

little regulation

they are both conservative utopias.

Weak? A government that controls the populace with violence? You need to stop imbibing!

Oh? How about freedom of religion and speech?

What a moronic statement!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-23   20:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: e_type_jag, dwarf, aka, Bullet For Whitey (#15)

Hey dwarf:)

Lycra panties all twisted up again?

Or is it the spandex "ironman" sports bra that's got you spittin again?

BBBBWWWAAAAHHHAAA!!!!

LMAO!!! "'Ironman' sports bra"!!!

Liberator  posted on  2010-10-23   20:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ibluafartsky (#54)

Is that your "elaboration", goofball?

Just saying, blu, that seeing as how taxation is an issue for you, Somalia might be more to your liking - gun yes, taxes no and all.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-23   21:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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