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Title: Gingrich Cozies up to 2010 Tea Party Crowd
Source: RealClearPolitics
URL Source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar ... 10_tea_party_crowd_107685.html
Published: Oct 22, 2010
Author: Erin McPike
Post Date: 2010-10-22 12:30:24 by Brian S
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LAS VEGAS -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich brought his road show here Thursday night to boost Republican Sharron Angle in her competitive race against Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and in the process attempted to further endear himself to the tea party faithful as he considers a presidential bid in 2012.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has long been considered the favorite national politician by the tea party movement, but Gingrich heaped praise on tea party activists and like-minded GOP candidates, revealing the beginnings of a possible attempt to woo involved activists for his own national campaign.

Asked by a reporter after a rally for Angle if he thought the presence of tea party candidates could damage the GOP's chances of taking back control of Congress, Gingrich scoffed.

"They're going to have five or six or seven tea party members in the Senate, and you're going to have probably 30 tea party members in the House, so they're already a force," he said. "They are a populist reform movement that represents a real desire to return to the Constitution and a real desire to return to limited government."

Gingrich said that he does not yet know what effect the movement will have on the 2012 elections.

"If President Obama decides to stay on the hard left, and fight as he said he would in hand-to-hand combat - that was his term - I suspect the tea party movement will keep growing," he said.

The former speaker is actively considering a bid for the White House in 2012, but aides say he won't pull the trigger unless there is a very clear pathway to victory, that he has no interest in launching a vanity bid. They suspect that party control of the House next year could have an effect on his decision and ability to set up a contrast. One noted that the bump he could get after boosting candidates through his American Solutions' training program will also play a role.

He opened his remarks at the rally for Angle with: "Before we get to 2012, let's focus on getting to Nov. 2." Gingrich received a full minute-long ovation when he was introduced, and attendees in the crowd shouted at him to run for president.

He acknowledged in a press conference after the rally that the political environment is different than when he pondered a presidential bid in the past. He also reiterated that he'll make his decision about whether to run in February or March.

"Clearly, there is an opportunity to draw a contrast with a radical administration that creates a very real choice for the American people about what kind of country we want to be," he told reporters.

The former speaker has begun to slim down this year, a sign that he is gearing up to run. He will not reveal how much weight he's lost until after he's reached his goal, an aide joked.

Asked if he was on a campaign diet, Gingrich said simply, "I'll let you decide."

He flew to Iowa immediately after the Nevada rally for events in that state. He intends to wrap up his American Solutions tour in Greenville, South Carolina and has a large rally planned the night of the election in Washington, D.C., at the Reagan building. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

"They are a populist reform movement that represents a real desire to return to the Constitution and a real desire to return to limited government."

But with social security and medicare.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-22   12:40:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Gingrich Cozies up to 2010 Tea Party Crowd

Whoever the Tea Parties decided to back for GOP Presidential nominee in 2012 will be the only candidate that will be able to compete effectively against RINO Romney, who already has the establishment vote locked up.

Gingrich recently came in far below Chris Christie, Sarah Palin, and Ron Paul in a Tea Party Presidential straw poll. That was a big wakeup call for him.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-22   13:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jwpegler (#2)

Gingrich recently came in far below Chris Christie, Sarah Palin, and Ron Paul in a Tea Party Presidential straw poll. That was a big wakeup call for him.

Christie doesn't toe the social conservative line enough and supported Mike Castle in DE. If the tea party were an actual group of fiscal conservatives rather than socially conservative Republicans, he might have a chance.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   13:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

Christie doesn't toe the social conservative line enough

You really need to come up into this century, GO65.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-22   14:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#4)

You really need to come up into this century, GO65.

Do you really think that a guy who told the GOP to quit overreacting to the Ground Zero Mosque has a prayer of winning?

Go look at what your fellow Freepers say about him:

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DENT - Thanks for pointing out another imbecile we should avoid listening too.

Christie is NOT CONSERVATIVE !

6 posted on Wed Oct 20 2010 20:43:25 GMT-0400 (EDT) by onona (dbada) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

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no thank you. Christie has a real rude streak when it comes to attacking some conservative positions and that really bugs the hell out of me.

He’s got issues with guns, he insulted those that don’t want the NY mosque, he ENDORSED Mike Castle and he’s favorable to illegal immigration.

11 posted on Wed Oct 20 2010 20:51:32 GMT-0400 (EDT) by spacejunkie01

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oh heck no.

Not another northeastern pro-amnesty RINO

2 posted on Fri Oct 15 2010 22:08:22 GMT-0400 (EDT) by GeronL

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Add in Amnesty, Ground Zero Mosque, Support of firing the sap who burned the koran, regional greenhouse gas initiative, etc.

NOT MY CANDIDATE !

28 posted on Sat Oct 16 2010 02:55:38 GMT-0400 (EDT) by onona (dbada)


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   14:54:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#5)

You really need to come up into this century, GO65. Do you really think that a guy who told the GOP to quit overreacting to the Ground Zero Mosque has a prayer of winning?

I wasn't talking about any political figure, I was talking about your assertion related to 'social conservatives'. Its not 1992, GO65.

As for citing posters at Free Republic, spare me. It has 30 - 40 thousand members at any given moment, cherry picking from it is a waste of time, bandwidth, and has zero bearing on my viewpoint.

Sheesh.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-22   14:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#6) (Edited)

I wasn't talking about any political figure, I was talking about your assertion related to 'social conservatives'. Its not 1992, GO65.

So the GOP is ready for pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-science nominees for President?

What planet do you live on Badeye?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   15:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#6)

As for citing posters at Free Republic, spare me. It has 30 - 40 thousand members at any given moment, cherry picking from it is a waste of time, bandwidth, and has zero bearing on my viewpoint.

So I'm supposed to believe that a guy who pushed back against GOP criticism of the ground zero mosque, who opposed increasing state government role in combatting illegal immigration, who said that illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated as criminals, who said that he wouldn't push his abortion views on the state, and who's state chairman chaired a pro-abortion rights Republican group, and who supports gay civil unions has a chance to win the GOP nomination for President?

Seriously?


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   15:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#7)

So the GOP is ready for pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-science nominees for President?

What planet do you live on Badeye?

The one where the majority don't want gay marriage, aren't interested in discussing it further.

The 'pro science' thing? Thats simply bizzare, don't know how to respond to it.

And the abortion issue isn't what it was in 92, hence my suggesting you come into the current century.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-22   15:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65 (#8)

As for citing posters at Free Republic, spare me. It has 30 - 40 thousand members at any given moment, cherry picking from it is a waste of time, bandwidth, and has zero bearing on my viewpoint.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-22   15:19:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#9)

And the abortion issue isn't what it was in 92, hence my suggesting you come into the current century.

Yeah, because the GOP is just full of pro-choice folks these days.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   15:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#11) (Edited)

And the abortion issue isn't what it was in 92, hence my suggesting you come into the current century.

Yeah, because the GOP is just full of pro-choice folks these days.

No,its because the new generation of Republicans simply don't believe its their business. They don't like abortion, but they don't like peering into the private lives of citizens either.

The boogieman of the Left - with some reason I freely admit - Jerry Falwell, is dead. The GOP base understands 'its the economy', all else pales in comparision.

Its like the Right wishing for a refight on gun control, when that issue is also irrelevant due to the recent Supreme Court rulings in large extent, but the real tipping point on that one was 9/11. That event took all the wind out of Sarah Brady and her misguided zealots, as the polls on both side show, and as every campaign since 2000 has displayed beyond any real debate.

I don't blame you for wishing for the 'good old days' GO65. Its not like you can run on healthcare reform, like you were bragging here a year ago...let alone the economy, which you and your friends predicted wouldn't produce above 8% unemployment after the trillion dollars stimulus that didn't stimulate.

Basically, this election cycle demonstrates you simply don't have anything 'positive' to run on.

That won't change between now and November 2012. My honest opinion.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-22   15:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#12)

No,its because the new generation of Republicans simply don't believe its their business. They don't like abortion, but they don't like peering into the private lives of citizens either.

I guess you slept through the whole Terry Shiavo ordeal a few years back?

Please do let me know when the GOP drops opposition to abortion choice, gay marriage, medical marijuana, teaching evolution and so on.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   15:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#3) (Edited)

Christie doesn't toe the social conservative line enough and supported Mike Castle in DE. If the tea party were an actual group of fiscal conservatives rather than socially conservative Republicans, he might have a chance.

A couple of points:

The Tea Parties are just a reformation of United We Stand (Perot's organization). They take positions on fiscal issues. Of course, individuals in the Tea Party have positions on social issues and foreign policy. If the Tea Party started taking stands on those issues, it would blow itself apart.

I read a great book in the late 70s entitled "Thunder on the Right". It was written by a British Tory who spent a lot of time in the U.S. It covered the enormous diversity among "rightist" groups from the Moral Majority to Libertarians to John Birchers (what today would be the Constitution Party / Tom Tancredo crowd). In spite of their vast policy differences, they all had one thing in common -- they like a certainly personality type. The John Wayne / Clinton Eastwood in your face, "new old west types". Chris Christie is this guy. Big time. Trust me, they will all line up behind him if he runs. I will too.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-22   16:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#13)

No,its because the new generation of Republicans simply don't believe its their business. They don't like abortion, but they don't like peering into the private lives of citizens either. I guess you slept through the whole Terry Shiavo ordeal a few years back?

Nope, which is why I don't get the coorolation, given it wasn't about abortion...which of course was what my comment - which you cut and pasted but apparently didn't READ - was related to specifically.

I'll also note that AFTER Schiavo, WE FIRED THOSE IN CONGRESS that made a big deal out of it.

Like I said, come into this century. Its not about 'social conservative views' its about the ECONOMY.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-22   16:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Badeye (#15) (Edited)

I'll also note that AFTER Schiavo, WE FIRED THOSE IN CONGRESS that made a big deal out of it.

John Boehner and Eric Cantor both voted to interject the Congress into the debate over Terri Schiavo. Mike Castle voted against it.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/1/votes/90/

You really do live in a fantasy land.


On January 3, 2011 the GOP assumes responsibility for deficit spending.

go65  posted on  2010-10-22   18:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65, badeye (#16)

Terri Schiavo

Your mention of Terri Schiavo made me remember a quote from Christopher Buckley, who is the son of the late William F. Buckley, made during the 2008 campaign:

I no longer have any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands for. Eight years of “conservative” government has brought us a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a truly obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case.

My sentiments exactly.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-22   18:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#16)

John Boehner and Eric Cantor both voted to interject the Congress into the debate over Terri Schiavo. Mike Castle voted against it.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/109/house/1/votes/90/

You really do live in a fantasy land.

No, I live in the real world Owe-bama is doing his best to destroy and remake in his self image.

We fired those that made Schiavo a 'issue'. Youknow this.

You don't live in a fantasyland, you live on a river called De-nial.

Its okay, the coming asskicking will do you some good come November 2nd.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-23   10:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: jwpegler (#17)

That Buckley attempted to say the GOP congress under Bush was 'Conservative' tells you he was flat out losing his mind towards the end.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-23   10:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye (#19)

That Buckley attempted to say the GOP congress under Bush was 'Conservative' tells you he was flat out losing his mind towards the end.

That quote came from Chris Buckley, who is quite alive.

Bush claimed he was a "conservative". So did the GOP Congress. Buckley was correctly in saying that if these guy are "conservative" he no idea what that term means any longer.


"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-23   12:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jwpegler (#20)

That Buckley attempted to say the GOP congress under Bush was 'Conservative' tells you he was flat out losing his mind towards the end. That quote came from Chris Buckley, who is quite alive.

Oh...about as credible to me as Megan McCain.

I have no use for trust fund babies who's only claim to fame is their last name.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-24   9:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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