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Title: Military recruiters told to accept gay applicants
Source: Yahoo
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101019 ... _gays_in_military_recruiting_1
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: ANNE FLAHERTY
Post Date: 2010-10-19 14:25:54 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 73151
Comments: 130

WASHINGTON – A Pentagon spokeswoman says recruiters have been told that they must accept gay applicants, following a federal court decision striking down the ban on gays serving openly in the military.

Spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said Tuesday that top-level guidance has been issued to recruiting commands informing them that the military's "don't ask, don't tell" rule has been suspended for now. Recruiters also have been told to inform potential recruits that the moratorium could be reversed at any point.

Last week, a federal judge ordered the military to stop enforcing the 1993 law banning openly gay service members. The Justice Department is appealing the decision and has asked for a temporary stay.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

I don't see how recruiters will know to be honest, beyond a gay waltzing in and screaming 'I'm gay! I'm gay! I'm gay!'.

Its been my experience only the insane do something along those lines. Giving them a M-16 or M-4 seems rather stupid...

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   14:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

Actually, homosexual folks have served in the U.S. Armed forces since the beginning of this country. All this does is prevent a person interested in signing up from being turned away by bigotry if this triviality becomes known to the recruiter.

Being gay or lesbian has nothing to do with how good or bad a serviceman or woman a candidate will be. This discrimination should of been ended decades ago.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   14:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

FM,

1. I served with gays. NO problems what so ever.

2. There isn't 'discrimination'. There is a lack of tolerance for 'screamers', those that feel dressing like Cher or Judy Garland is 'appropriate for all circumstances'. We both have know those types I suspect.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   14:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

If gays do serve in the military. They should have special units for the gays. They should always be on the front line. No not because they are gay but because they don't have any offspring.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-19   14:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Are the genders separated in the military?

If they are, then to only that extent should they separated.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   14:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

They already serve, Stone. And you are wrong, there is nothing about homosexual people that would justify such a dumb move as you hatefully propose.

I also would say you are very much wrong too about the offspring thing. Many gay and lesbian people have kids, and if people were kept from having sex merely for being unable to bear young, no woman would be allowed to have sex after menopause, and any man who has had a bilateral orchiectomy due to testicular cancer would be allowed to as well.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   14:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-10-19   15:43:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-10-19   15:45:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Happy Quanzaa, Ferret Mike (#7)

Which one is weasel?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   15:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#4)

If gays do serve in the military. They should have special units for the gays.

Agree. They should search for roadside IED's using the braille method.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-10-19   16:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#0) (Edited)

I was in the Air Force 30 years ago.

There was guy who was getting kicked out because he was gay. He got caught with his boyfriend in the barracks. Not too smart.

While he was packing, I told him that I didn't agree with the decision. What did he do? He hit on me, right then and there. WTF?????

I don't think that the government should discriminate against gays. I don't believe that the government has any business telling people who and who they can't marry.

However, individuals have responsibilities too. A big part (but certianly not all) of the venom that gays attract is due to some gays who parade their sexuality around -- from showing up in speedos to the gay parade to hitting on any man who is friendly to them.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   16:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

Actually, homosexual folks have served in the U.S. Armed forces since the beginning of this country. All this does is prevent a person interested in signing up from being turned away by bigotry if this triviality becomes known to the recruiter.

what DADT does is tell gay service members to lie to their superiors.

There's something terribly wrong with that.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#4)

If gays do serve in the military. They should have special units for the gays. They should always be on the front line. No not because they are gay but because they don't have any offspring.

Why is it that Israel allows gays to serve and doesn't seem to have any problems with it?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#12)

There is something wrong with that, they shouldn't have to lie about being gay, as there is nothing wrong with that.

I have seen people thrown out for being gay and it pissed me off. one good friend of mine worked in the administration part of the battalion I was in and his superior stole his car keys, searched his car, found letters from his boyfriend, and they both were kicked out.

He was a very competent, caring person who did his job well. I remember seeing him ... Tell you what I just can't talk about it and will leave it at that.

It will forever affect how I feel about this and what I do about it, and I don't give a shit who likes that or not.

I have gotten people busted locally for discrimination, and I go full and enthusiastically right into their shit and fuck them up in as legal a way as I can.

If I had to do the what comes around goes around to the officer again, I wouldn't. But I sure understand why we did it, and he deserved it.

My personal policy is anyone who uses a racial, homophobic or any sort of nasty term in public gets thew full on confrontation about it. I don't live in fear, I just act.

It is easier it being Eugene, Oregon as people who are thinking about acting jump in behind me when I take the initiative. But I don't live in fear. live my life exactly as I believe I should. And I don't tolerate haters and baiter's in person.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   20:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ibluafartsky (#9)

"Which one is weasel?"

You are such a coward Yukon. You just don't have any balls. Just lip, and I would say you have four of them.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   20:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

You are such a coward Yukon.

You are delusional, shit-for-brains.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   20:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

as there is nothing wrong with that.

There most certainly is. It is immoral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-19   21:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Who are you to dictate who should love who? Tell you what, do what I do; I don't date guys or bed them and leave it at that as far as my personal feeling about it. I know that homosexual guys feel the same as I do, only in terms of not being attracted to women. We all all different than one another, and that is as it should be.

Hey, to each their own.

I don't judge people who relate to other adults who relate back to them in the same way. If you want to be a mature adult, do the same.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   21:27:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ibluafartsky (#16) (Edited)

And you never do anything but whine. And you do it because you are a coward, and would never walk up to anyone you give shit to to their face nice and in person like.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   21:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

No. Faggots should never be accepted. God himself said so.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-19   21:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Bullshit, You don't talk for any deity. I know many Christains who know better, and would never agree with your brand of bigotry.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   21:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#21)

You don't know any christians who disagree with what I said. It is true.

King James Bible If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-19   21:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#21)

Here is some more truth.

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-19   21:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#22)

And you would condemn Muslims who would do an honor killing, as would I. But if I ever see someone attacking a gay friend, I stand with them and defend against that attack of the criminal.

Two adults living life as they desire trumps a criminal's sociopathic attack.

As far as the Bible goes, it means not to much to me. I don't accept it as the word of any god. To me, it is a historical work of a group of men. Just as you might view the Koran or the Torah.

And you would have no right to criticize Christians who disagree with you on this, some of which made that site I showed you once that interprets those words you cite quite differently, and are very Christian.

And you have no right to make people miserable or bully anyone because of your warped sensibilities in regard to Christianity. Grow up Stone, nobody likes people who act like cowardly bullies.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   21:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)

"You don't know any christians who disagree with what I said."

The world is full of them. You just refuse to see the obvious, because your heart is cold and full of hate toward anyone who disagrees with you about your cowardliness and bigotry in regards to homosexuality.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   21:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, Corn Flake Girl (#25)

because your heart is cold and full of hate toward anyone who disagrees with you

Says the brain damaged ,douche that runs this avatar:

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   22:11:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

And you never do anything but whine.

I stated a fact, shit-for-brains. Did you attend school in the United States? Special needs?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   22:16:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ibluafartsky (#27)

Did your mother have any kids that lived?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

Did your mother have any kids that lived?

So you hope he is dead.

What a POS pussy you have become.

You brain dead moron.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   22:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ibluafartsky (#27) (Edited)

Flake Girls mom is now fair game for you bro.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   22:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: WhiteSands (#30)

Flake Girls mom is now fair game for you bro.

"Bro"?

You two retards are related?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-19   22:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: WhiteSands (#26)

Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark. But then, truth always does.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-19   22:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

Did your mother have any kids that lived?

All of them intelligent, hard working and productive.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   22:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)

Corn Flake Girl will threaten to sue you soon.

It's how he survives.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   22:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: WhiteSands (#30)

She's dead. Died of cancer in 2002.

I'm the oldest, and was the primary combatant against her alcoholism.

She was no friend of mine when she died, so I really don't give a shit what you say about her.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:36:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: WhiteSands (#34)

What are you now, my lawyer?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ibluafartsky (#33)

"All of them intelligent, hard working and productive."

Except you. You refuse civility online, and if we meet, you will reap what you sow.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

if we meet

I don't hang out with queers in gay bars and bathhouses, weasel. So the chance of us meeting is remote at best.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   22:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

Not so. I don't drink, I am not gay, and I have been to Alaska before, and will be again.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)

In fact, I updated my passport this summer, which one needs since Bush and Cheney blew up the twin towers and put a missile in the Pentagon.

I also have a place to stay up there, and an invite.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

I have been to Alaska before, and will be again.

Will you be going there to see Sarah announce the acceptance of the nomination?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   23:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

I updated my passport this summer, which one needs

Why? Is Alaska now considered a foreign country by the leftwingnuts? Does the

'President of the 57 states' believe Alaska is still part of Russia?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   23:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ibluafartsky (#42)

I think it's crazy too. I never had to have a passport to go into Canada or to go up to Alaska before, but that's how it is these days of border stations hundreds of miles from the border.

Go check for yourself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   23:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ibluafartsky (#42)

One of the most commonly asked questions by Alaska travelers concerns the requirements for passports. Passports have long been required for international travelers entering Alaska from foreign countries. US citizens that travel in Alaska are not required to have in their possession a US passport, although a passport is always a useful piece of identification for any traveler. One of the issues that Alaska travelers must consider, is that Alaska shares a common border with Canada, which is a separate and independent country. US travelers passing through Canada have not been required to have a passport in their possession, however, recent legislation has changed this requirement. beginning in 2008, US travelers, including children, traveling between Alaska and Canada via land or sea will be required to have in their possession a current US passport. For information on how to get a passport, click here.

On January 8, 2007, all travelers, including US citizens, will be required to have a passport to travel by air between the United States and Canada. This would include:
Air travel from to any Alaska destination to Whitehorse, Yukon Territory or Vancouver, British Columbia.

Beginning in 2008, all travelers, including US citizens, will be required to have a passport to do the following:
Drive to Alaska from the contiguous United States (aka Lower 48 States)
Use the Alaska Marine Highway Service ferry to travel to Prince Rupert, British
Columbia, Canada
Drive to Haines, Alaska from Southcentral Alaska
Travel from Skagway, to Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, Canada
Travel from Fairbanks to Dawson City, Yukon Territory, Canada

http://www.alaskavisitorscenter.com/passports.htm

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   23:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ferret Mike, Ibluafartsky (#40)

In fact, I updated my passport this summer, which one needs since Bush and Cheney blew up the twin towers and put a missile in the Pentagon.

Corn Flake Girl also "feels" aliens are visiting earth and planting probes in the brains of humans.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   23:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Ferret Mike, Ibluafartsky, Corn Flake Girl (#43)

Oh good.

The Ativan has finally kicked in.

Now Corn Flake will be nice for a while.

He will not attack your mother again. At least for a few hours.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   23:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: WhiteSands (#45)

I just got done posting the requirements, half wit. Is the agency posting the quoted requirements seeing things too? Or are you?

The fat of life these days is the need for a passport to do what I plan on doing. If I were a Washington State resident, I could get an enhanced driver's license that would do away with the passport requirements.

You again are not looking too sharp, as it is you not dealing wit the facts as they are.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   0:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

Nike guard owned your weak ass.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   0:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#43)

I never had to have a passport to go into Canada or to go up to Alaska

You can fly into Alaska from anywhere in the US without having a passport.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   0:51:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: jwpegler (#11)

A big part (but certianly not all) of the venom that gays attract is due to some gays who parade their sexuality around -- from showing up in speedos to the gay parade to hitting on any man who is friendly to them.

So this is justification for discriminating against ALL openly gay men? What about men who parade their heterosexuality around by hitting on any woman who is friendly to them? Should they attract venom too?

Just wondering...

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   0:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: meguro (#50)

What about men who parade their heterosexuality around by hitting on any woman who is friendly to them? Should they attract venom too?

They do.

It's what sexual harassment suits are about.

Because of those jerks, we have to sit through hours of sexual harassment seminars.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   0:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ibluafartsky, CornFlakeGirl, Ferret Mike (#49)

He attacked your mom and fmaily.

Has he threatened to sue you yet?

He will.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   1:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: WhiteSands (#51)

Because of those jerks, we have to sit through hours of sexual harassment seminars.

Perhaps you might learn something from them, Whitey.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   1:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: meguro (#53)

What amazes me is I never had so much to talk about involving homosexuality until starting talk on conservative forums.

With normal people, I go next door to my neighbors and help in their garden and never once in the course of a day have pause to muse on how they are a woman couple. But in this forum, man....... It's constant. Sodomy this, Lambda that, bathhouse this, gay bar that, these folks really need to get a life.

It is not normal to obsess about other people's private relationship business, it really isn't.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: WhiteSands (#52)

So that means you are my lawyer? That's funny dick head, I don't remember hiring you for shit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: WhiteSands (#51) (Edited)

Fucker, I have had the same girlfriend for quite some time now. I don't worry about other people sexual shit, unless it is a stupid, bigotted fucking soup sandwich asshole like you bringing up shit that ain't your fucking business.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ibluafartsky (#49)

No shit. But if you want to drive to Vancouver B.C. first before taking the ferry, you need one now don't you?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:27:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: WhiteSands (#48)

And what the hell is a Nike Guard? Some sort of sexual fetish toy you use to preform foreplay on your pug dog before it screws your loose and hemorrhoid laden ass?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

Are the genders separated in the military?

If they are, then to only that extent should they separated.

WhiteSands posted on 2010-10-19 14:50:53 ET

Have someone you know that can read, explain what the above authors position , in this context is on Gays in the Military.

The Ativan is not correcting the damage from your traumatic head injury

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   1:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike (#57)

if you want to drive to Vancouver B.C.

British Columbia is in Canada, a foreign country.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   1:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Ibluafartsky (#60)

Wow, you think?

Well, I lived in Quebec a while too, and I have friends in B.C. I need to see before I continue North.

In any event, I wouldn't go north without getting the passport updated anyway. You never know when it will come in handy. I am also a private pilot, and like to have all the tools I need to not limit what I do when I travel.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   1:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

Wow, you think?

I know you can fly over Canada without a passport.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   1:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ibluafartsky, CornFlakeGirl, Ferret Mike (#62)

He'd fall on Canada too.

Then sue Canada.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   1:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Ibluafartsky (#62)

And if you fly over something, you never know if you might have to land, yes?

Fishing for info. Worry not, when I'm coming and there, you will know it. I'm not afraid of you, and know that you are adult enough to not go batshit or be stupid in real life should we ever meet.

I have other reasons for going, and actually don't care either way if you rendezvous or not. Forum is forum, real life is real life.

Mad dog on the other hand, I don't wish to meet. You can be sane, I doubt he can.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-20   2:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Ferret Mike, CornFlakeGirl, Ibluafartsky (#64)

Fishing for info. Worry not, when I'm coming and there, you will know it. I'm not afraid of you, and know that you are adult enough to not go batshit or be stupid in real life should we ever meet.

One of the side effects of Ativan withdrawal is paranoia.

Keep up with your head injury meds, you'll be fine.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   2:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#64)

And if you fly over something, you never know if you might have to land, yes?

Fishing for info.

I'm not afraid of you,

So what are the Canadian authorities going to do if your 757 is forced to land in Canada? Arrest you?

From you? Why would I care?

Why should you be? I'm one of the nice people. The last altercation I was involved in was at a bar in Minnesota where some loudmouthed assholes pushed their luck.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   2:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

What amazes me is I never had so much to talk about involving homosexuality until starting talk on conservative forums.

With normal people, I go next door to my neighbors and help in their garden and never once in the course of a day have pause to muse on how they are a woman couple. But in this forum, man....... It's constant. Sodomy this, Lambda that, bathhouse this, gay bar that, these folks really need to get a life.

It is not normal to obsess about other people's private relationship business, it really isn't.

It's been my experience that the really blatant homophobes, or the ones obsessed with homosexuality, are latent, closeted homosexuals themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if some of our fellow posters here fit that profile. After all, look at all the closet gays in the Republican party.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   3:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: meguro (#67)

What you saying is that homosexuals are the ones that are publicly attacking homosexuality.

Not heterosexuals.

That will not go well for you at the club.

Don't use it there.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   3:31:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: WhiteSands (#68) (Edited)

What you saying is that homosexuals are the ones that are publicly attacking homosexuality.

Not heterosexuals.

Quite often, yes. Closeted, repressed ones that can't come to grips with their homosexuality and exhibit self-loathing. Are you one of them, Whitey?

That will not go well for you at the club.

Don't use it there.

What club? WTF are you always babbling incoherently, Whitey?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   3:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

What amazes me is I never had so much to talk about involving homosexuality until starting talk on conservative forums.

Just damned. What do you expect when you post a fag article on a discussion forum.?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   6:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: meguro (#67)

It's been my experience that the really blatant homophobes,

No such thing as a homophobe. That is just a word fags made up to try and make themselves feel better. But you are exhibiting several signs of a normaphobe.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   6:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: meguro (#50)

What about men who parade their heterosexuality around by hitting on any woman who is friendly to them? Should they attract venom too?

No they are normal. They are also less likely to be disease carriers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   6:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Last week, a federal judge ordered the military to stop enforcing the 1993 law banning openly gay service members.

New recruiting video.


Village People - In the navy (version originale)
Uploaded by scorpiomusic. - Music videos, artist interviews, concerts and more.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   8:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Badeye (#1)

I don't see how recruiters will know to be honest, beyond a gay waltzing in and screaming 'I'm gay! I'm gay! I'm gay!'.

Its been my experience only the insane do something along those lines.

Or people looking for grounds for a discrimination lawsuit.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   8:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

Being gay or lesbian has nothing to do with how good or bad a serviceman or woman a candidate will be. This discrimination should of been ended decades ago.

Do you think male homosexuals should be given combat troop commands where they will have the authority to send the men under their command on virtual suicide missions?

I have no problem at all with homosexuals serving in support commands,but not in combat commands.

The problem is once you legally allow them to assume support command positions,they are then going to sue to be given combat command positions and make the claim that they are being discriminated against because it limits their career options.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   8:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Happy Quanzaa (#7)

The 1st Rump Rangers Battalion?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   8:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: jwpegler (#11)

I don't think that the government should discriminate against gays. I don't believe that the government has any business telling people who and who they can't marry.

The military is a unique branch of the government. They don't exist to be shining examples of individual freedoms. They exist to win wars.

It is also the only branch of government that has the legal authority to send people off to face certain death. This is ONE reason women are not assigned to combat units. A commander may be tempted to send a female off on a suicide mission because she refused his advances. On the other hand,a commander might well refuse to EVER send his girlfriend off on ANY mission where she may face the slightest risk,thereby placing all other members of that unit at higher risk of losing their lives.

The military is very concerned about a thing they call "Good order and discipline." They have to be. Consider the effect on good order and discipline of the above examples.

Those risks also apply to same-gender combat units that would have a homosexual commander or NCO. Do you REALLY want your son or grandson to be faced with the decision to either blow his CO or go off in the first wave of an assault and get killed? Or have him put in the first wave because some other soldier made that decision to avoid being in the first wave himself?

"Out" homosexuals should only be allowed to serve in support units,and even then only under the conditions where they wear the same uniform as others of their gender,and they agree to never be put into command positions.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   8:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: go65 (#12)

what DADT does is tell gay service members to lie to their superiors.

There's something terribly wrong with that.

No,nobody is telling them anything. They agreed to those conditions when they enlisted. Nobody drafted them.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   8:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: A K A Stone (#20)

Faggots should never be accepted. God himself said so.

They why did he allow them to be born?

And don't try to make the claim that it was their choice to become a homosexual unless you are a bi-sexual. The only people who believe that to be true are bi-sexuals. The rest of us are born to be attracted to the opposite gender and all the "learning" in the world won't change that.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   9:02:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#74)

I don't see how recruiters will know to be honest, beyond a gay waltzing in and screaming 'I'm gay! I'm gay! I'm gay!'. Its been my experience only the insane do something along those lines.

Or people looking for grounds for a discrimination lawsuit.

Exactly.

This isn't being 'driven' from within the gay community in the military. Its being driven by leftwingers that HATE the military.

Yes, they trot out the occasional active duty gay...but overall, this isn't a 'movement' within the ranks.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   9:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Badeye (#80)

This isn't being 'driven' from within the gay community in the military. Its being driven by leftwingers that HATE the military.

And lawyers that love how deep Uncle Sam's pockets are. A lawsuit like this can be worth mega-millions to the lucky law firm that gets it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   9:21:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: sneakypete (#81)

Indeed. And we all know the Trial Lawyers Association, or whatever the hell they are calling themselves this week, and 110% behind the DNC.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   9:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: sneakypete (#79)

Faggots are faggots by choice. Next you are going to tell me murderers were born that way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   11:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#79)

"They why did he allow them to be born?

And don't try to make the claim that it was their choice to become a homosexual unless you are a bi-sexual. The only people who believe that to be true are bi-sexuals. The rest of us are born to be attracted to the opposite gender and all the "learning" in the world won't change that".

We were all born into this world given a FREE WILL by God Himself, to do with ourselves, in mind and body, as we please, and with the full knowledge of the consequences of our actions. The choices we make, right or wrong, are ours to make.

I am no 'bi-sexual', never have been, never wanted to be, never will will be, and for you to use this lame excuse makes you no better than those who have no other argument left but to call a person 'racist'....

'The rest of us', as you put it, are no differnt from those you label 'bi- sexual', 'the rest of us are no different from anyone else put here by God, we also were born with a FREE WILL, that includes you, you made your choice to be what you are, but your excuses for those who go against God's will is just that, excuses, and like anyone else who believes there is a God, you cannot, you will not, have it both ways!

What you wrote about those who dissagree with you is an opinion, we all have them, you do not speak for 'the rest of us'! jmho!

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-20   11:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: meguro (#50)

So this is justification for discriminating against ALL openly gay men?

Show me where I said it was justified. Nowhere.

I am merely pointing out the fact that the behavior of a very vocal minority of gays is part of the reason that some people get so riled up about the notion of "gay rights".


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-20   13:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: jwpegler (#85)

Show me where I said it was justified. Nowhere.

I didn't say you did, which is why posed it as a question. So I'll assume then that you don't think it is. Glad to hear it.

I am merely pointing out the fact that the behavior of a very vocal minority of gays is part of the reason that some people get so riled up about the notion of "gay rights"

Maybe so, but I don't think this would be such an issue of these people weren't homophobic in the first place.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   15:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: meguro (#86)

This is not an appropriate way to behave in public:


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-20   16:28:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: jwpegler (#87)

This is not an appropriate way to behave in public:

Where was this photo taken? At a military function?

And who decides what's appropriate or not?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   16:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: megurocalcon (#86)

Maybe so, but I don't think this would be such an issue of these people weren't homophobic in the first place.

I'm homophobic meguro/calcon, watcha gonna do about it, get your fellow(lol) fairies together and hit me with your purses..?

There isn't a g-damn thing in the world you, or any fag can do, to force ANYONE to accept what you do as normal, or even to like you...people are strange that way, I know I am...

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-20   16:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: meguro (#88)

And who decides what's appropriate or not?

The same people that regulate smoking.

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-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   16:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: meguro (#88) (Edited)

And who decides what's appropriate or not?

Local public decency laws. In most localities in the U.S., one cannot parade around naked in the streets.

Back to the point at hand. Some people who don't know any openly gay people see pictures from these Gay Pride Parades and they think the worst. I don't blame them. I blame the minority of gays like those in this picture who feel it necessary to parade their sexuality around in public.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-20   16:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: jwpegler (#91)

Liberals that are OK with regulating smokers are hypocritical when asking regulation of homosexuality be waived.

Both must be allowed and regulated for health reasons. To be Consistent.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   16:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: jwpegler (#91) (Edited)

Local public decency laws. In most localities in the U.S., one cannot parade around naked in the streets.

And in what municipality were these photos taken? Were any laws broken?

Back to the point at hand. Some people who don't know any openly gay people see pictures from these Gay Pride Parades and they think the worst. I don't blame them. I blame the minority of gays like those in this picture who feel it necessary to parade their sexuality around in public.

Assuming they're breaking no laws, these people are free to do this, and those people who don't like such things are free not to view the photos or attend the events.

Live and let live.

If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

So I guess you're a liberal?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   17:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: A K A Stone (#83)

Faggots are faggots by choice.

Really? Are you saying you are sexually attracted to men,but choose to only have sex with women because that is your choice?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   20:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Murron (#84)

We were all born into this world given a FREE WILL by God Himself,

OK,so God himself decided that homosexuality should be a option?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   20:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: sneakypete (#79)

And don't try to make the claim that it was their choice to become a homosexual

So you feel the same way about pedophiles and people who engage in bestiality? Why would faggots be different?

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   20:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: sneakypete (#95)

God himself decided that homosexuality should be a option?

You choose to be and do what you want. People choose to be murderers, robbers, rapists and molesters.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   20:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: no gnu taxes (#96)

So you feel the same way about pedophiles and people who engage in bestiality?

Yes. You would have to be a idiot to think that somebody WANTS to be a child molester or hump horses,and it's not something you would do accidentially.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   20:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: sneakypete (#95)

OK,so God himself decided that homosexuality should be a option?

No. He foresaw it was another perversion that people would engage in as moral relativity became more and more the prevalent excuse to justify aberrant, forbidden behavior and warned humankind against the pitfalls associated with that behavior. Such as health troubles, blackmail potential, and the downward spiral that people find themselves trapped in when they begin acting contrary to plan.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-20   20:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Ibluafartsky (#97)

You remember making a decision to be sexually attracted to women?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   20:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: sneakypete (#98)

You would have to be a idiot to think that somebody WANTS to be a child molester or hump horses

No, the idiots are those who choose to engage in such degenerate activities.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   20:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: sneakypete (#100)

I am a south Park Republican.

I don't care about sexuality or pot.

But saying that we don't make a decision on sexuality is to dismiss an argument the left uses often. That we are shaped by our environment.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-20   20:52:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: sneakypete (#100)

You remember making a decision to be sexually attracted to women?

No more than I remember making a decision not to engage in murder, robbery, rape, beastiality or child molestation.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-20   20:53:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Ibluafartsky, sneakypete (#101)

"You would have to be a idiot to think that somebody WANTS to be a child molester or hump horses"

"No, the idiots are those who choose to engage in such degenerate activities".

LOL...pete, you are one, sick MOFO...

This sure gives a whole new meaning to "The Devil Made Me Do It"...

I suppose in todays fked up world, psychologist are telling their depraved patients, 'hey man, don't be so hard on y'll self, If it wern't for GOD, you wouldn't have done such a thing, he's the one who made ya do it..."

I wonder if at the time they're sexually abusing children and animals, do you think they apologize and say...You Have to Excuse Me, God Mad Me Do It...?

SPIT!

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-20   21:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: sneakypete (#98)

So you feel the same way about pedophiles and people who engage in bestiality?

Yes. You would have to be a idiot to think that somebody WANTS to be a child molester or hump horses,and it's not something you would do accidentially.

uhh okay

Your view is scary, and I'm not sure how to respond to the idea that fucking the family dog is God given behavior after I have had 4 beers tonight.

Were you tempted to appear as a character witness for John Wayne Gacy?

I guess you feel, as Flip Wilson would say, "God Made Him Do it." (or something like that)

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   21:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Rudgear (#99)

No. He foresaw it was another perversion that people would engage in as moral relativity became more and more the prevalent excuse to justify aberrant, forbidden behavior and warned humankind against the pitfalls associated with that behavior.

Homosexuality is something new? WOW! Who knew?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   23:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: WhiteSands (#102)

But saying that we don't make a decision on sexuality is to dismiss an argument the left uses often. That we are shaped by our environment.

I disagree. It is the alleged RIGHT that make that statement with their claims that people "learn" to be homosexuals.

You are either born to be a homosexual or you're not. It's not something you can learn.

The same thing applies to bi-sexuals,who are the only ones that actually do have a choice.

Most of us are exclusively heterosexual or homosexual,and we had no choice in the matter.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   23:43:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Murron (#104)

LOL...pete, you are one, sick MOFO...

This sure gives a whole new meaning to "The Devil Made Me Do It"...

No,the sick people are the delusional ones who believe in the devil.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   23:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: WhiteSands, sneakypete (#102)

But saying that we don't make a decision on sexuality is to dismiss an argument the left uses often. That we are shaped by our environment.

I didn't choose to become gay anymore than you chose to become mentally ill, Whitey.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-20   23:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: no gnu taxes (#105)

Your view is scary, and I'm not sure how to respond to the idea that fucking the family dog is God given behavior after I have had 4 beers tonight.

Isn't a part of your argument that God gave us free will?

I guess you feel, as Flip Wilson would say, "God Made Him Do it." (or something like that)

God is the flip side of the devil. You have to believe in God for the devil to exist.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-20   23:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: A K A Stone (#83)

Faggots are faggots by choice. Next you are going to tell me murderers were born that way.

How many dicks did you suck before you decided to be straight.

Any straight or gay person can see how ridiculous your post is. I couldn't choose to like dick if I wanted to.

So why do you think someone can choose to like dick?

Rhino  posted on  2010-10-21   0:02:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Rhino, A K A Stone, meguro (#111)

So why do you think someone can choose to like dick?

Ask someone who has.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-21   1:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: meguro (#109)

I didn't choose to become gay anymore than you chose to become mentally ill, Whitey.

I am not mentally ill.

But we do need to regulate homosexuality just as we do smoking.

And for the same reasons.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   1:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: sneakypete (#107)

To date, no researcher has claimed that genes can determine sexual orientation. At best, researchers believe that there may be a genetic component. No human behavior, let alone sexual behavior, has been connected to genetic markers to date.

—PFLAG (Parents, Families & Friends of Lesbians And Gays), "Why Ask Why: Addressing the Research on Homosexuality," 1995

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-21   1:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: WhiteSands (#113)

But we do need to regulate homosexuality just as we do smoking.

ROFLMAO! Do you plan on having homo-free bars? Homo-free rental housing?

Maybe you plan on having the government issue homo-sex permits? Maybe sell blowjob stamps,giving the buyers permission to give or receive "X-amount" of bj's per month?

AND......since you seem to think homosexuality can be caught,like the flu,aren't you afraid of ending up with all-homo police forces and courts from their constant exposure to non-permit homos?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-21   5:15:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: WhiteSands (#114)

To date, no researcher has claimed that genes can determine sexual orientation.

To date,no researcher has claimed there is proof that God exists,or that if he does that he is a heterosexual who hates homos.

After all,according to your own superstitious beliefs he chose in vitro fertilization with a married virgin for his own boy to be born,a boy that lived to the 30's without ever having sex with a woman and who said "Love your fellow man" while hanging out with nobody but males?

Anybody ever heard of "Mrs God"? How do you know that God himself isn't a homo that hates women and the idea of heterosexual sex,and that's why he made women so bitchy? Maybe he WANTED men and women to have problems living together?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-21   5:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: sneakypete (#115)

ROFLMAO! Do you plan on having homo-free bars? Homo-free rental housing?

Maybe you plan on having the government issue homo-sex permits? Maybe sell blowjob stamps,giving the buyers permission to give or receive "X-amount" of bj's per month?

AND......since you seem to think homosexuality can be caught,like the flu,aren't you afraid of ending up with all-homo police forces and courts from their constant exposure to non-permit homos?

Maybe lavender, as opposed to scarlet letters?

Why do you bother with that mental case Whitey anyway?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-21   7:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: WhiteSands (#113)

I am not mentally ill.

Yeah, you are, extremely so. You should be locked up and institutionalized. I'm sure all those doctors and nurses in your family would agree.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-21   7:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: meguro (#117)

Maybe lavender, as opposed to scarlet letters?

LOL! Nice touch.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-21   7:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: sneakypete (#119)

LOL! Nice touch.

Yup, did you wear purple today for "Coming out day?"

meguro  posted on  2010-10-21   8:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: meguro (#109)

I didn't choose to become gay anymore than you chose to become mentally ill, Whitey.

So did someone rape you? If not you chose your own actions. Or maybe you are possessed?

It is really stupid for someone to say they didn't choose to be a faggot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-21   8:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: sneakypete (#116)

To date,no researcher has claimed there is proof that God exists,or that if he does that he is a heterosexual who hates homos.

Leviticus and Romans and other places make it clear that homosexuals are going to hell. Unless they repent.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-21   8:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: A K A Stone (#121)

So did someone rape you? If not you chose your own actions. Or maybe you are possessed?

It is really stupid for someone to say they didn't choose to be a faggot.

Dummy.

meguro  posted on  2010-10-21   8:25:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Rhino (#111)

It is a choice. Only a moron would think otherwise. I will put you down as a moron.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-21   8:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: A K A Stone (#124)

Only a moron would think otherwise. I will put you down as a moron.

Just don't forget to add yourself.

Incidentally, does one choose to be a moron?

meguro  posted on  2010-10-21   8:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: meguro (#120)

Yup, did you wear purple today for "Coming out day?"

LOL! No,I didn't even know it was a holiday.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-10-21   8:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: meguro (#125)

I don't know if you are pulling our leg that you are one of those homosexuals. I don't really care if you are or aren't. It is my view and the view of the majority of people throughout history that it is a sin and wrong. That is my view and will always be my view. I'm not going to pick at you about it. I have said my view and will leave it at that. Unless you choose to further engage.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-21   8:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: A K A Stone (#127)

I don't know if you are pulling our leg that you are one of those homosexuals.

The guy has been advertising himself for years as being as queer as a 4 dollar bill.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-21   8:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: no gnu taxes (#128)

I never knew. Must have been on LP or something.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-21   8:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: meguro, A K A Stone (#125)

Incidentally, does one choose to be a moron?

You apparently have made that choice. AIDS!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-22   3:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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