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Title: Military recruiters told to accept gay applicants
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101019 ... _gays_in_military_recruiting_1
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: ANNE FLAHERTY
Post Date: 2010-10-19 14:25:54 by Ferret Mike
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WASHINGTON – A Pentagon spokeswoman says recruiters have been told that they must accept gay applicants, following a federal court decision striking down the ban on gays serving openly in the military. Spokeswoman Cynthia Smith said Tuesday that top-level guidance has been issued to recruiting commands informing them that the military's "don't ask, don't tell" rule has been suspended for now. Recruiters also have been told to inform potential recruits that the moratorium could be reversed at any point. Last week, a federal judge ordered the military to stop enforcing the 1993 law banning openly gay service members. The Justice Department is appealing the decision and has asked for a temporary stay.
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#59. To: Ferret Mike (#56)
Are the genders separated in the military? If they are, then to only that extent should they separated. WhiteSands posted on 2010-10-19 14:50:53 ET Have someone you know that can read, explain what the above authors position , in this context is on Gays in the Military. The Ativan is not correcting the damage from your traumatic head injury
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British Columbia is in Canada, a foreign country.
Wow, you think? Well, I lived in Quebec a while too, and I have friends in B.C. I need to see before I continue North. In any event, I wouldn't go north without getting the passport updated anyway. You never know when it will come in handy. I am also a private pilot, and like to have all the tools I need to not limit what I do when I travel.
I know you can fly over Canada without a passport.
He'd fall on Canada too. Then sue Canada.
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And if you fly over something, you never know if you might have to land, yes? Fishing for info. Worry not, when I'm coming and there, you will know it. I'm not afraid of you, and know that you are adult enough to not go batshit or be stupid in real life should we ever meet. I have other reasons for going, and actually don't care either way if you rendezvous or not. Forum is forum, real life is real life. Mad dog on the other hand, I don't wish to meet. You can be sane, I doubt he can.
One of the side effects of Ativan withdrawal is paranoia. Keep up with your head injury meds, you'll be fine.
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Fishing for info. I'm not afraid of you, So what are the Canadian authorities going to do if your 757 is forced to land in Canada? Arrest you? From you? Why would I care? Why should you be? I'm one of the nice people. The last altercation I was involved in was at a bar in Minnesota where some loudmouthed assholes pushed their luck.
With normal people, I go next door to my neighbors and help in their garden and never once in the course of a day have pause to muse on how they are a woman couple. But in this forum, man....... It's constant. Sodomy this, Lambda that, bathhouse this, gay bar that, these folks really need to get a life. It is not normal to obsess about other people's private relationship business, it really isn't. It's been my experience that the really blatant homophobes, or the ones obsessed with homosexuality, are latent, closeted homosexuals themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if some of our fellow posters here fit that profile. After all, look at all the closet gays in the Republican party.
What you saying is that homosexuals are the ones that are publicly attacking homosexuality. Not heterosexuals. That will not go well for you at the club. Don't use it there.
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Not heterosexuals. Quite often, yes. Closeted, repressed ones that can't come to grips with their homosexuality and exhibit self-loathing. Are you one of them, Whitey? That will not go well for you at the club. Don't use it there. What club? WTF are you always babbling incoherently, Whitey?
Just damned. What do you expect when you post a fag article on a discussion forum.?
No such thing as a homophobe. That is just a word fags made up to try and make themselves feel better. But you are exhibiting several signs of a normaphobe.
No they are normal. They are also less likely to be disease carriers.
New recruiting video. "I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Its been my experience only the insane do something along those lines. Or people looking for grounds for a discrimination lawsuit.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Do you think male homosexuals should be given combat troop commands where they will have the authority to send the men under their command on virtual suicide missions? I have no problem at all with homosexuals serving in support commands,but not in combat commands. The problem is once you legally allow them to assume support command positions,they are then going to sue to be given combat command positions and make the claim that they are being discriminated against because it limits their career options.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The 1st Rump Rangers Battalion?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
The military is a unique branch of the government. They don't exist to be shining examples of individual freedoms. They exist to win wars. It is also the only branch of government that has the legal authority to send people off to face certain death. This is ONE reason women are not assigned to combat units. A commander may be tempted to send a female off on a suicide mission because she refused his advances. On the other hand,a commander might well refuse to EVER send his girlfriend off on ANY mission where she may face the slightest risk,thereby placing all other members of that unit at higher risk of losing their lives. The military is very concerned about a thing they call "Good order and discipline." They have to be. Consider the effect on good order and discipline of the above examples. Those risks also apply to same-gender combat units that would have a homosexual commander or NCO. Do you REALLY want your son or grandson to be faced with the decision to either blow his CO or go off in the first wave of an assault and get killed? Or have him put in the first wave because some other soldier made that decision to avoid being in the first wave himself? "Out" homosexuals should only be allowed to serve in support units,and even then only under the conditions where they wear the same uniform as others of their gender,and they agree to never be put into command positions.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
There's something terribly wrong with that. No,nobody is telling them anything. They agreed to those conditions when they enlisted. Nobody drafted them.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
They why did he allow them to be born? And don't try to make the claim that it was their choice to become a homosexual unless you are a bi-sexual. The only people who believe that to be true are bi-sexuals. The rest of us are born to be attracted to the opposite gender and all the "learning" in the world won't change that.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I don't see how recruiters will know to be honest, beyond a gay waltzing in and screaming 'I'm gay! I'm gay! I'm gay!'. Its been my experience only the insane do something along those lines. Or people looking for grounds for a discrimination lawsuit. Exactly. This isn't being 'driven' from within the gay community in the military. Its being driven by leftwingers that HATE the military. Yes, they trot out the occasional active duty gay...but overall, this isn't a 'movement' within the ranks.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
And lawyers that love how deep Uncle Sam's pockets are. A lawsuit like this can be worth mega-millions to the lucky law firm that gets it.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Indeed. And we all know the Trial Lawyers Association, or whatever the hell they are calling themselves this week, and 110% behind the DNC.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Faggots are faggots by choice. Next you are going to tell me murderers were born that way.
And don't try to make the claim that it was their choice to become a homosexual unless you are a bi-sexual. The only people who believe that to be true are bi-sexuals. The rest of us are born to be attracted to the opposite gender and all the "learning" in the world won't change that". We were all born into this world given a FREE WILL by God Himself, to do with ourselves, in mind and body, as we please, and with the full knowledge of the consequences of our actions. The choices we make, right or wrong, are ours to make. I am no 'bi-sexual', never have been, never wanted to be, never will will be, and for you to use this lame excuse makes you no better than those who have no other argument left but to call a person 'racist'.... 'The rest of us', as you put it, are no differnt from those you label 'bi- sexual', 'the rest of us are no different from anyone else put here by God, we also were born with a FREE WILL, that includes you, you made your choice to be what you are, but your excuses for those who go against God's will is just that, excuses, and like anyone else who believes there is a God, you cannot, you will not, have it both ways! What you wrote about those who dissagree with you is an opinion, we all have them, you do not speak for 'the rest of us'! jmho!
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
Show me where I said it was justified. Nowhere. I am merely pointing out the fact that the behavior of a very vocal minority of gays is part of the reason that some people get so riled up about the notion of "gay rights".
I didn't say you did, which is why posed it as a question. So I'll assume then that you don't think it is. Glad to hear it. I am merely pointing out the fact that the behavior of a very vocal minority of gays is part of the reason that some people get so riled up about the notion of "gay rights" Maybe so, but I don't think this would be such an issue of these people weren't homophobic in the first place.
This is not an appropriate way to behave in public: This is not an appropriate way to behave in public: Where was this photo taken? At a military function? And who decides what's appropriate or not?
I'm homophobic meguro/calcon, watcha gonna do about it, get your fellow(lol) fairies together and hit me with your purses..? There isn't a g-damn thing in the world you, or any fag can do, to force ANYONE to accept what you do as normal, or even to like you...people are strange that way, I know I am...
"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee
The same people that regulate smoking.
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Local public decency laws. In most localities in the U.S., one cannot parade around naked in the streets. Back to the point at hand. Some people who don't know any openly gay people see pictures from these Gay Pride Parades and they think the worst. I don't blame them. I blame the minority of gays like those in this picture who feel it necessary to parade their sexuality around in public.
Liberals that are OK with regulating smokers are hypocritical when asking regulation of homosexuality be waived. Both must be allowed and regulated for health reasons. To be Consistent.
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And in what municipality were these photos taken? Were any laws broken? Back to the point at hand. Some people who don't know any openly gay people see pictures from these Gay Pride Parades and they think the worst. I don't blame them. I blame the minority of gays like those in this picture who feel it necessary to parade their sexuality around in public. Assuming they're breaking no laws, these people are free to do this, and those people who don't like such things are free not to view the photos or attend the events. Live and let live. If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran So I guess you're a liberal?
Really? Are you saying you are sexually attracted to men,but choose to only have sex with women because that is your choice?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
OK,so God himself decided that homosexuality should be a option?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
So you feel the same way about pedophiles and people who engage in bestiality? Why would faggots be different?
You choose to be and do what you want. People choose to be murderers, robbers, rapists and molesters.
Yes. You would have to be a idiot to think that somebody WANTS to be a child molester or hump horses,and it's not something you would do accidentially.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No. He foresaw it was another perversion that people would engage in as moral relativity became more and more the prevalent excuse to justify aberrant, forbidden behavior and warned humankind against the pitfalls associated with that behavior. Such as health troubles, blackmail potential, and the downward spiral that people find themselves trapped in when they begin acting contrary to plan.
Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)
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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#60. To: Ferret Mike (#57)
if you want to drive to Vancouver B.C.
#61. To: Ibluafartsky (#60)
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#61)
Wow, you think?
#63. To: Ibluafartsky, CornFlakeGirl, Ferret Mike (#62)
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#64. To: Ibluafartsky (#62)
#65. To: Ferret Mike, CornFlakeGirl, Ibluafartsky (#64)
Fishing for info. Worry not, when I'm coming and there, you will know it. I'm not afraid of you, and know that you are adult enough to not go batshit or be stupid in real life should we ever meet.
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#66. To: Ferret Mike (#64)
And if you fly over something, you never know if you might have to land, yes?
#67. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
What amazes me is I never had so much to talk about involving homosexuality until starting talk on conservative forums.
#68. To: meguro (#67)
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#69. To: WhiteSands (#68)
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What you saying is that homosexuals are the ones that are publicly attacking homosexuality.
#70. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
What amazes me is I never had so much to talk about involving homosexuality until starting talk on conservative forums.
#71. To: meguro (#67)
It's been my experience that the really blatant homophobes,
#72. To: meguro (#50)
What about men who parade their heterosexuality around by hitting on any woman who is friendly to them? Should they attract venom too?
#73. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Last week, a federal judge ordered the military to stop enforcing the 1993 law banning openly gay service members.
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#74. To: Badeye (#1)
I don't see how recruiters will know to be honest, beyond a gay waltzing in and screaming 'I'm gay! I'm gay! I'm gay!'.
#75. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
Being gay or lesbian has nothing to do with how good or bad a serviceman or woman a candidate will be. This discrimination should of been ended decades ago.
#76. To: Happy Quanzaa (#7)
#77. To: jwpegler (#11)
I don't think that the government should discriminate against gays. I don't believe that the government has any business telling people who and who they can't marry.
#78. To: go65 (#12)
what DADT does is tell gay service members to lie to their superiors.
#79. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Faggots should never be accepted. God himself said so.
#80. To: sneakypete (#74)
#81. To: Badeye (#80)
This isn't being 'driven' from within the gay community in the military. Its being driven by leftwingers that HATE the military.
#82. To: sneakypete (#81)
#83. To: sneakypete (#79)
#84. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#79)
"They why did he allow them to be born?
#85. To: meguro (#50)
So this is justification for discriminating against ALL openly gay men?
If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran
#86. To: jwpegler (#85)
Show me where I said it was justified. Nowhere.
#87. To: meguro (#86)
If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran
#88. To: jwpegler (#87)
#89. To: megurocalcon (#86)
Maybe so, but I don't think this would be such an issue of these people weren't homophobic in the first place.
#90. To: meguro (#88)
And who decides what's appropriate or not?
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#91. To: meguro (#88)
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And who decides what's appropriate or not?
If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran
#92. To: jwpegler (#91)
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#93. To: jwpegler (#91)
(Edited)
Local public decency laws. In most localities in the U.S., one cannot parade around naked in the streets.
#94. To: A K A Stone (#83)
Faggots are faggots by choice.
#95. To: Murron (#84)
We were all born into this world given a FREE WILL by God Himself,
#96. To: sneakypete (#79)
And don't try to make the claim that it was their choice to become a homosexual
#97. To: sneakypete (#95)
God himself decided that homosexuality should be a option?
#98. To: no gnu taxes (#96)
So you feel the same way about pedophiles and people who engage in bestiality?
#99. To: sneakypete (#95)
OK,so God himself decided that homosexuality should be a option?
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