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Title: Joe Miller: Communist East Germany a Model for Border Security
Source: cbsnews.com
URL Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20020018-503544.html
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: Stephanie Condon
Post Date: 2010-10-19 12:00:05 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 5941
Comments: 34

The United States should borrow ideas from Communist East Germany to keep its borders secure, Alaska's Republican Senate candidate Joe Miller suggested at a town hall Sunday night.

"The first thing that has to be done is secure the border," Miller said when asked about illegal immigration into the United States, Alaskan blogger Steve Aufrecht first reported.

Miller continued, "East Germany was very, very able to reduce the flow. Now, obviously, other things were involved. We have the capacity to, as a great nation, secure the border. If East Germany could, we could."

The Tea Party-backed candidate, who is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, explained that he once served at the Fulda Gap, a point on the former East-West German border. East Germany's border troops were given orders to shoot anyone trying to flee East Germany.

Following the same town hall meeting, a reporter for the Alaska Dispatch was handcuffed and detained by private security guards working for Miller while trying to ask Miller a question.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Apparently the purpose of East German border security has eluded Mr. Miller.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-19   12:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Interesting to note Mexico believes this, and is erecting a wall on its SOUTHERN BORDER thats based upon the the old Berlin Wall.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   12:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Skip Intro (#1)

Perhaps someone will explain to him the difference between keeping people in by force and fences and keeping them out.

Although if we did have a government as oppressive and fascist as the Tea Fleas and neocons wanted, we would indeed need to have the INS worry about that.

No one would want to stay here if they could possibly escape. Except us little old guerrillas who would have a new job of building an insurgency to expand and empower low intensity conflict here in this country.

De Oppresso Liber.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   12:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye (#2)

When I was a kid I used play at a section of the wall as our house we rented (My Step Dad was a Pan Am pilot) was very close to it.

Someday I want to go back to see the Brandenburg Gate again with the statues on top finally facing the right way. It was an interesting city to live in.

The German kids used to beat up on my brothers and me until to their horror they discovered they were wrong, and we were not Army brats as they had suspected.

In fact, they took me along with them one day on their rounds to bust into those little mini cigarette vending machines they used to have there to make up for their error.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   12:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Skip Intro (#1)

Apparently the purpose of East German border security has eluded Mr. Miller.

Irrelevant. It was very effective and we could do it five to ten times better.

Mine the border, NOW.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-19   12:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#5)

Heck, why not just nuke the rest of the world except here and nip the whole problem in the bud?

I mean, if the rest of the world was dead, that would end the immigration problem, right?

Of course even then you still wouldn't be satisfied until we had forces on our moon ready to take on any aliens coming here from deep space.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   13:03:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

Heck, why not just nuke the rest of the world except here and nip the whole problem in the bud?

I mean, if the rest of the world was dead, that would end the immigration problem, right?

How is defending one's border up with "nuking the world"??

No one is forcing the peasants into our border Mike, they are coming here on their own free will.

If they can make it past the land-mines, automated machine-guns, Hunter-killers and Apache gunships more power to them, but they are running the risk of their own volition.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-19   13:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#5)

Irrelevant. It was very effective and we could do it five to ten times better.

See, he's recommending it to the wrong country. He should travel to Mexico and tell them to do it.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-19   13:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Skip Intro (#1)

Apparently the purpose of East German border security has eluded Mr. Miller.

You have the reading comprehension of an idiot, skidmark.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   13:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#7)

The ultimate solution is a back step time machine that would send a sub back to 1492 to get out there to sink Columbus' ship full of the worse possible kind of illegal aliens.

Your alleged solution would be Chapter Three of the book of apartheid. Number one was where the term was born in oppressive, Nationalist party run South Africa. Chapter two is taking place in Israel with their wall and oppression of Palestinians.

An amnesty bill requiring people who come here to work to qualify for citizenship or to be sent back is what I whole heartedly support.

Your little slice of fascism solution just has no appeal to me what so ever.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   13:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ibluafartsky (#9)

Actually Yukfart, it is you with the bad case of border dyslexia, not Skip Intro.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   13:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

Someday I want to go back to see the Brandenburg Gate again with the statues on top finally facing the right way. It was an interesting city to live in.

I'd love to visit Germany some day myself.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   13:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike, skidmark (#11)

bad case of border dyslexia,

You're just as stupid as skidmark, weasel! Miller continued, "East Germany was very, very able to reduce the flow. Now, obviously, other things were involved. We have the capacity to, as a great nation, secure the border. If East Germany could, we could."

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   13:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#5)

Irrelevant. It was very effective and we could do it five to ten times better.

Mine the border, NOW.

Again, I have to point out a simple problem with your solution.

In East Germany it was completely legal to shoot people trying to escape. Since they died inside of E. Germany it was an internal matter.

However, shooting people trying to get in would, at the least, cause an international incident since they'd be shot in Mexico, not here.

Perhaps once you baggers take over you can get the law changed so border crossers can be machine-gunned down once they're in US territory. The problem with that is that your big financial backers like the US Chamber of Commerce, Koch Brothers, and other business's want the illegals here.

It's quite a dilemma for you.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-19   13:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Skip Intro (#14)

However, shooting people trying to get in would, at the least, cause an international incident since they'd be shot in Mexico, not here.

You again prove that you are indeed an idiot, skidmark.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   13:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ibluafartsky (#13) (Edited)

East German security was like prison guards keeping people in, dufus. The mission of border protection is to watch the flow of people trying to get in, not locking down the country.

This is a case of good evidence this guy is most certainly not ready for prime time, and likely never will be,

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   13:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

East German security

Miller's reference was to the efficacy of the East Germans in securing a border. Why do you liberals all have shit for brains?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   14:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ibluafartsky (#17)

Part of being an effective communicator is knowing what examples you use invoke the wrong imagery if cited.

If this was the best he could do to come up with an example of a model to follow for border security, he sure doesn't have a clue about how to invoke trust in him as a potential leader.

I would say this comment is great if he wants voters to send him off onto a highway to nowhere, as was done to McLame and Caribou Barbie two years ago.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   14:09:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

an example of a model to follow

You can infer whatever you choose, but it just makes you an ignorant liberal with shit for brains.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   14:12:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ibluafartsky (#19)

I would infer the exact same thing if a liberal politician did a similar example of foot in mouth comment.

The problem with you Yukon is you have zero political integrity. If you could but everyone to the left of you politically in camps and outlaw anything not your liking politically, you would do so.

You show day in and day out that to you the U.S. Constitution is nothing but toilet paper to wipe your fat conservative ass with.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   14:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#20)

If you could but everyone to the left of you politically in camps

Typical claim of a drug-addled, shit-for-brains liberal!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   14:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ibluafartsky (#21)

You repeat yourself so often, your simple minded comments become background noise nobody cares about.

You ave forgotten how to do anything in forum but do the moral equivalent of a dog chasing cars.

If you ever have the balls to compare urine tests, let me know. Loser has to pay for both of them. I'm sure that we could find places there and here that would do the tests and allow you to remain anonymous.

I could easily pass mine, but seeing how badly you do in trying to do interesting posts with intelligent commentary, I doubt you could pass yours.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   14:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Miller continued, "East Germany was very, very able to reduce the flow. Now, obviously, other things were involved. We have the capacity to, as a great nation, secure the border. If East Germany could, we could."

Good quote.

If East Germany could, we could.

They were poor and did it.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   14:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike (#22)

To: Ibluafartsky You repeat yourself

Your leftwingnut rantings are indicative of your intellectual shortcomings, weasel.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   15:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: WhiteSands (#23)

Dumb quote. He omitted what everyone knows; that East Germany was an oppressive, totalitarian satellite of the USSR and worked to keep people in, not out.

The normal reaction by most people to this example is to wonder who this guy's mental health provider is.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   15:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ibluafartsky (#24)

If your post was a political commercial, this is what you would of had to add to it:

"I am Yukon of Fart, and I approved this one liner lamer of a typical Flamer comment to Ferret Mike"

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   15:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#26)

I am Yukon of Fart

You are obsessed. Amazing how some poster can get inside your head and eat away what little gray matter you may have had.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   15:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CornFlake Girl (#26)

Those European communists that preceded you can control their borders, and so can we.

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Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   15:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: WhiteSands (#28)

Preceded me? I was born in 1954, asshole. I lived in Berlin when there was a wall around it for a while.

Preceded me my ass, mother fucker.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   21:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

Hypocrite Girl the Communists in East Berlin predate you , you brain damaged dumb ass.

The Soviet sector of Berlin that was established in 1945.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-19   22:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike, WhiteSands, AKA Stone (#29)

my ass, mother fucker

Weasel, exposing your gay side for all to see? Advertising isn't allowed, is it Stone?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-19   22:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: WhiteSands (#30)

"Hypocrite Girl the Communists in East Berlin predate you , you brain damaged dumb ass."

I lived in Berlin in the early Sixties and listening to the lastest about the most recent brave people trying to escape the tyranny of the Communist Satellite government you admire was local news.

I lived in that era. The partitioning of Berlin and Germany was a fact when I was there. I listened to news on the Berlin airlift on the TV and Radio and that is fact.

Dumb shit.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-19   22:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Skip Intro (#14)

Perhaps once you baggers take over you c

I'm not a bagger, you penis face.

I'm an American and one day someone like me will shoot their way into power and you'll get yours.

Believe me, I've been keeping a list of assholes such as yourself and your name has a check-mark AND an asterisk next to you.

You'll get yours from the New Order.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-20   15:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#33)

You're taking skippy way way to seriously.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   15:22:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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