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Title: Christine O'Donnell Asks Where Constitution Calls For Separation Of Church, State
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.bnd.com/2010/10/19/14432 ... nell-questions-separation.html
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2010-10-19 11:29:00 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 207706
Comments: 236

WASHINGTON -- Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion.

In a debate at Widener University Law School, O'Donnell criticized Democratic nominee Chris Coons' position that teaching creationism in public school would violate the First Amendment by promoting religious doctrine.

O'Donnell asked where the Constitution calls for the separation of church and state. When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?" Delaware Senate

The exchange Tuesday aired on radio station WDEL generated a buzz among law professors and students in the audience. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Pssst. She's right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say a thing about 'seperation of church and state'.

The history, and the revisionist history, related to this...theory, is facinating and revealing.

It was from a USSC minority ruling, designed to keep a specific religion from attaining elective office, in short.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   11:31:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#1)

Pssst. She's right.

Huh?

here's what she said:

When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?"

I think this one is pretty clear;

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:48:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: go65 (#24)

When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion

Coons didn't say that.

He said:

Government shall make no establishment of religion

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   9:17:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: no gnu taxes (#42)

Government shall make no establishment of religion

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

It is in the Constitution:

Look up FREEDOM OF RELIGION for details.

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   10:31:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#44)

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

It is in the Constitution:

Source please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   11:15:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#49)

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

It is in the Constitution:

Source please.

OMFG.

You fell asleep during civics class. A lot. ;}

SOURCE:

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

You got one of those?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:36:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: mcgowanjm (#56)

My point is that it isn't in the constitution. You libtards made it up. So you must be using a different source.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   11:37:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#57)

My point is that it isn't in the constitution. You libtards made it up. So you must be using a different source.

Game, set and match.

This is like watching eskimo's with ballbats v baby seals at this point.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   11:41:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Badeye (#59)

My point is that it isn't in the constitution. You libtards made it up. So you must be using a different source.

Game, set and match.

BWAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 8D

A JOKE. I'm laughing all day on that.

MORRON's Unite.

That you think there's some kind of technicality here.

Fuck your religion. Pay TAXES now. At least 10% and we'll see how courageous your preachers are then.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: mcgowanjm (#61)

Fuck your religion. Pay TAXES now.

That would be a violation of the free exercise cluase and no law...

You still haven't quoted from the constitution where separation of church and state is. Oh that is right you can't because it isn't there. You are either dumb or dishonest. Which is it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   11:44:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#65)

Fuck your religion. Pay TAXES now.

That would be a violation of the free exercise cluase and no law...

You still haven't quoted from the constitution where separation of church and state is. Oh that is right you can't because it isn't there. You are either dumb or dishonest. Which is it?

Oh shit.

Fuck. You want to have a debate?

Very well.

Know why the Church can't have an opinion on an election?

Pay your fucking taxes and you can tell your flock to vote for Satan and I won't give a fuck.

You PAY for the privilege of participating. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:47:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: All (#69)

And you haven't given me that QUOTE by the Founding Fathers where the Privileged Religion of the State is.

Keep Comin. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:48:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: All (#70)

And UNTIL you do so it's The Constitution:

"In the end, many supporters of the Constitution, including one of the most prominent, James Madison, agreed to support a bill of rights in the Constitution, if it could be ratified. Several of the states included suggested amendments, including rights of the people, in their ratification documents. The push was on for a bill of rights in the Constitution. Madison was true to his word — on June 8, 1789, Representative James Madison rose and gave a speech in the House where he introduced a series of articles of amendment. One concerned religious freedom:

The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext, infringed.

Madison's proposal follows the proposals of some of the states. New Hampshire's read:

Congress shall make no laws touching religion, or to infringe the rights of conscience.

Virginia was much more verbose:

That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence, and therefore all men have an equal, natural and unalienable right to the exercise of religion according to the dictates of conscience, and that no particular sect or society ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others.

New Yorkers had the same to say, but more succinctly:

That the people have an equal, natural, and unalienable right freely and peaceably to exercise their religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that no religious sect or society ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others.

Aside from New Hampshire's wide-reaching "no touch" proposal, all of these have a few elements in common. First, no national religion should be established, in contrast to several European nations of the time (and to this day) which have an official state church. Second, that no one sect of any religion be favored by the government. Third, that all persons should be free to worship in whatever manner they deemed appropriate for them."

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone, All (#74) (Edited)

And there's nothing in the Constitution about CORPORATIONS either.

I tell you what, you can have your religion. But first get rid of the Corporation.

On second thought. NO.

You can't have either. Lock and Load. And those Pashtun have nothing on us Dirty Fuckin Hippies. 8D

It's FREEDOM OF RELIGION. And I'm an Atheist.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:53:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: mcgowanjm (#75)

And there's nothing in the Constitution about CORPORATIONS either.

Like Stone's bible, his constitution is the cut and paste version where select segments can be used out of context to make his case.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-20   11:55:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#82. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone, All (#77)

And there's nothing in the Constitution about CORPORATIONS either.

Like Stone's bible, his constitution is the cut and paste version where select segments can be used out of context to make his case.

And thank you very much.

The Problem for A K and his crowd of wealthy prosyletizers is that they just can't hide that they hate Equality.

There Religion DEMANDS an US v THEM way of life.

If the zioFundies were in charge, you'd see ZERO diff between them and any other 'Wahabbi' Sect.

The Fundies ALWAYS have the same mindset. Master meet slave.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20 12:00:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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