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Title: Christine O'Donnell Asks Where Constitution Calls For Separation Of Church, State
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Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.bnd.com/2010/10/19/14432 ... nell-questions-separation.html
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2010-10-19 11:29:00 by Brian S
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WASHINGTON -- Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion. In a debate at Widener University Law School, O'Donnell criticized Democratic nominee Chris Coons' position that teaching creationism in public school would violate the First Amendment by promoting religious doctrine. O'Donnell asked where the Constitution calls for the separation of church and state. When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?" Delaware Senate The exchange Tuesday aired on radio station WDEL generated a buzz among law professors and students in the audience.
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#109. To: Capitalist Eric (#46)
What facts, my dear Eric? Maybe you should STFU and let the adults talk. No can do. 1st Amendment and all that. You're free however, to put me on filter at any time of your choosing.
Funny, in this day and age, it most certainly would be. Madison didn't just say a prayer; he invoked his Calvinist beliefs. The first amendment limits the power of CONGRESS in the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to not establish any national religion or prohibit the exercising of any one's religious rights (paraphrasing). It says nothing about what local school boards (or any other local government entity, for that matter) can do. In fact, if a local government chooses to actually teach religion (not just an alternative form of the origins of life) it would be unconstitutional for Congress to pass a law prohibiting it. O'Donnell was simply right.
The issue becomes a bit cloudy when the local school accepts federal money.
And you wonder why I call you 'goofy'....lol
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Or remain the fool we see here each day. Not fair, you know thats going to be the case no matter what goofy does, or doesn't do. It is common courtesy to ping a person you mention in your post. Riiight, cause thats what you do with me all the time....lol And you wonder why I call you 'goofy'....
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Still pretending you post from Japan? rotfl!
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
I don't? You have proof?
Riiight, cause thats what you do with me all the time....lol I don't? You have proof? I've seen it a few times with you and mingster...the difference is I don't really give a shit.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Compared to anything you post? Absolutely.
Not really. The Feds might make it a condition of receiving the money, but that has nothing to with the Constitutionally of the matter. Except that it might be construed as such conditions by the Feds are unconstitutional as making an end run around the legislative duties of Congress. Fact is O'Donnell was right.
A US military base isn't considered US soil? Legally, the answer is "no." That is, the Constitution does NOT apply on U.S. military bases. If you'd served in the military, you'd already know that. It's one of the realities of what sneakypete was stating, when he said "The Bill of Rights ONLY applies to people who are on American soil." That you don't KNOW about this, and instead choose to argue from a position of overt ignorance, demonstrates that you don't give a shit... about FACTS. Yeah, you're guaranteed the right to make yourself look like a complete asshat. Congratulations on successfully exercising that right. Getting tired of the bozoed calcon following me around on the 'net, wanting to discuss "tossing salad." Sorry, you sick rump-ranger. NOT interested.
Yep, and Coons looked ridiculous.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
rotfl! Still pretending anyone takes you seriously? Chuckle.
I find that hard to believe. Madison wrote: s the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the U. S. forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion. The law appointing Chaplains establishes a religious worship for the national representatives, to be performed by Ministers of religion, elected by a majority of them, and these are to be paid out of the national taxes. Does not this involve the principle of a national establishment, applicable to a provision for a religious worship for the Constituent as well as of the representative Body, approved by the majority, and conducted by Ministers of religion paid by the entire nation? The establishment of the chaplainship to Congs is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional pnnciples. The tenets of the chaplains elected shut the door of worship agst the members whose creeds & consciences forbid a participation in that of the majority. To say nothing of other sects, this is the case with that of Roman Catholics & Quakers who have always had members in one or both of the Legislative branches. Could a Catholic clergyman ever hope to be appointed a Chaplain? To say that his religious pnnciples are obnoxious or that his sect is small, is to lift the evil at once and exhibit in its naked deformity the doctrine that religious truth is to be tested by numbers, or that the major sects have a right to govern the minor. I whole-heartedly agree with Madison when he writes Were the establishment to be tried by its fruits, are not the daily devotions conducted by these legal Ecclesiastics, already degenerating into a scanty attendance, and a tiresome formality?
You posted to me for four YEARS after I left LP, dumbass. Thanks for playing.
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Thanks for playing. I did? Just how many years? Didn't know you cared enough to check. So you were lurking all these years after your sorry ass was tossed from LP? Chuckle!
Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.
Wow, you know how to copy and paste. I'm impressed.
Or it could be construed as favoring one religion over another.
Oh yes, and I'm sure if/when the lease expires and Cuba refuses to renew, the US will just pack up and leave, eh? Sure, you betcha! What about Iraq and Afghanistan... are they leased too? Yeah,the poor downtrodden fundie Muslim masses,caught setting bombs or carrying arms against US troops. Duh poor bayb-bees! What part of "innocent until proven guilty" confuses you? Has it been proven that all of them captured were engaged in those activities? We already knew you are a Dim. Now you provide proof of your qualifications. Well, not all of us can be card carrying members of the Gay Old Party like you! Well then, I guess we've found something on which you agree with Obama that a disagree with... imagine that!
B.E. can copy and paste but when will liberals learn how? ANYONE. Copy and paste the section in the US Constitution that states there is a Separation of Church and State. Here's one way to Copy and Paste : Find the text. That's right. You have to find the text! If you have remapped your mouse and or K.B. then you will need to set back to default for these instructions to work. Highlight the text you wish to copy by left clicking on your mouse as you drag over the text then release the mouse button. The text will now be seen as being highlighted. To Copy: Use Ctrl and the letter "C" on your key board. Go to the comments field/section here at L.F. where you wish to paste the copied text. Use your mouse and left click in the field to get a blinking cursor to make the field active or what we web site builders call focused. Then use Ctrl and the letter "V" to paste. Liberals- Amaze your friends at the Where's my check club!
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Take your meds, Whitey.
No, it is not a state, however it is under the jurisdiction of the US government just as our military bases in foreign countries are and our embassies.
Excellent point! Since Obama has taken over the trials have been stopped. He refuses them due process while keeping the base open. We now learn he is operating a secret prison in Afghanistan!
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Since Obama has taken over the trials have been stopped. He refuses them due process while keeping the base open. That's right, and I disagree strongly with Obama on this. On the other hand, I'm imagine you're ecstatic about it, and fully support Obama on this. Am I wrong?
I'm not the one who wrote that. That would be sneakypete.
Bagram - According to a new report from an independent think-tank group, former detainees of an alleged secret prison in Afghanistan claim they were abused and tortured. The United States military has repeatedly denied these accusations. Digital Journal reported in February that : Afghans claimed that the Bagram United States Air Force is President Barack Obama’s Guantanamo Bay detention center because of alleged torture, Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/299020#ixzz12wBHZOQ8
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What's your point, Whitey? I disagree with these prisons, whether it was Bush or now Obama in charge.
Please accept my apologies!
Yes you are wrong. Again. Your support of Obama and silence on this important issue displays just how fake your concern for humanity is. I have posted several articles on Obama's on going torture at Gitmo and his new secret Afghan prison. You have been absent from them all. Nor have you posted any articles about his issue.
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Again. Your support and silence on this important issue displays just how fake your concern for humanity is. I have posted several articles on Obama's on going torture at Gitmo and his new secret Afgan prison. You have been absent from them all. Nor have you posted any articles about his issue. Piss off, wacko.
You always have to resort to personal attacks.
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You start them, Whitey.
You always have to resort to personal attacks. He probably got some sand in his vaseline jar.
No problem at all.
Use my copy anbd paste instructions to prove you assertion. Or remain the syph infected liar we see here.
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Or remain the syph infected liar we see here. Eat shit and die, mental case.
If he can share where he lives, travel and his age, given his sexual orientation, we can tell what the CDC odds are that he is infected with Syph. That wold explain his behavior.
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You have chosen , or do you feel it's gentic, to remain the syph infected liar we see here.
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That wold explain his behavior. Like I told you before, mental case, eat shit and die.
Whatever, mentally diseased one....
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#110. To: lucysmom (#105)
This interchange emphasizes that the delegates did not consider opening prayers as a proselytizing activity or as symbolically placing the government's "official seal of approval on one religious view.
#111. To: no gnu taxes (#110)
It says nothing about what local school boards (or any other local government entity, for that matter) can do. In fact, if a local government chooses to actually teach religion (not just an alternative form of the origins of life) it would be unconstitutional for Congress to pass a law prohibiting it. O'Donnell was simply right.
#112. To: lucysmom (#107)
As I noted, he woke the hell up. or he just substituted what you said for what someone before you told him.
#113. To: lucysmom (#108)
#114. To: meguro (#109)
#115. To: Badeye (#113)
Riiight, cause thats what you do with me all the time....lol
#116. To: lucysmom (#115)
#117. To: no gnu taxes (#91)
And that's really believable, huh?
#118. To: lucysmom (#111)
The issue becomes a bit cloudy when the local school accepts federal money.
#119. To: meguro, sneakypete (#109)
Your statement:
No can do. 1st Amendment and all that.
#120. To: no gnu taxes (#118)
Fact is O'Donnell was right.
#121. To: Badeye (#114)
To: meguro Still pretending you post from Japan?
#122. To: no gnu taxes (#110)
Madison didn't just say a prayer; he invoked his Calvinist beliefs.
#123. To: meguro (#121)
Still pretending anyone takes you seriously?
#124. To: Badeye (#123)
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You posted to me for four YEARS after I left LP, dumbass.
#125. To: meguro (#124)
You posted to me for four YEARS after I left LP, dumbass. Thanks for playing.
#126. To: Badeye (#125)
#127. To: no gnu taxes (#118)
The Feds might make it a condition of receiving the money, but that has nothing to with the Constitutionally of the matter. Except that it might be construed as such conditions by the Feds are unconstitutional as making an end run around the legislative duties of Congress.
#128. To: sneakypete (#39)
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Yes. I hate to disappoint you,but the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is NOT a US state. It is leased land belonging to Cuba.
#129. To: meguro (#126)
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#130. To: WhiteSands (#129)
#131. To: meguro (#128)
Yes. I hate to disappoint you,but the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is NOT a US state.
#132. To: meguro (#128)
(Edited)
What part of "innocent until proven guilty" confuses you? Has it been proven that all of them captured were engaged in those activities?
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#133. To: WhiteSands (#132)
Excellent point!
#134. To: lucysmom, sneakypete (#131)
No, it is not a state, however it is under the jurisdiction of the US government just as our military bases in foreign countries are and our embassies.
#135. To: meguro (#133)
nightly raids and the large number of health hazards.
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#136. To: WhiteSands (#135)
#137. To: meguro (#134)
#138. To: meguro (#133)
(Edited)
Am I wrong?
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#139. To: WhiteSands (#138)
Yes you are wrong.
#140. To: meguro (#139)
Piss off, wacko.
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#141. To: WhiteSands (#140)
You always have to resort to personal attacks.
#142. To: WhiteSands (#140)
Piss off, wacko.
#143. To: lucysmom (#137)
Please accept my apologies!
#144. To: meguro (#141)
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#145. To: WhiteSands (#144)
Use my copy anbd paste instructions to prove you assertion.
#146. To: no gnu taxes, meguro (#142)
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#147. To: meguro (#145)
Eat shit and die, mental case.
Liberals:
-Pro nuclear proliferation.
-Support fundamentalist religion that execute gays.
-Have no issues with inmate abuse.
-In discussions to release J.Pollard.
#148. To: WhiteSands (#146)
If he can share where he lives, travel and his age, given his sexual orientation, we can tell what the CDC odds are that he is infected with Syph.
#149. To: WhiteSands (#147)
You have chosen , or do you feel it's gentic, to remain the syph infected liar we see here.
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