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Title: Christine O'Donnell Asks Where Constitution Calls For Separation Of Church, State
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.bnd.com/2010/10/19/14432 ... nell-questions-separation.html
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2010-10-19 11:29:00 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 194778
Comments: 236

WASHINGTON -- Republican Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell of Delaware is questioning whether the U.S. Constitution prohibits the government from establishing religion.

In a debate at Widener University Law School, O'Donnell criticized Democratic nominee Chris Coons' position that teaching creationism in public school would violate the First Amendment by promoting religious doctrine.

O'Donnell asked where the Constitution calls for the separation of church and state. When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?" Delaware Senate

The exchange Tuesday aired on radio station WDEL generated a buzz among law professors and students in the audience. Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Pssst. She's right. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say a thing about 'seperation of church and state'.

The history, and the revisionist history, related to this...theory, is facinating and revealing.

It was from a USSC minority ruling, designed to keep a specific religion from attaining elective office, in short.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   11:31:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#1)

Pssst. She's right.

Huh?

here's what she said:

When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O'Donnell asked: "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?"

I think this one is pretty clear;

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:48:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: go65 (#24)

When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion

Coons didn't say that.

He said:

Government shall make no establishment of religion

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   9:17:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: no gnu taxes (#42)

Government shall make no establishment of religion

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

It is in the Constitution:

Look up FREEDOM OF RELIGION for details.

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   10:31:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#44)

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

It is in the Constitution:

Source please.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-20   11:15:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#49)

And no, it's not in the Constitution.

It is in the Constitution:

Source please.

OMFG.

You fell asleep during civics class. A lot. ;}

SOURCE:

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

You got one of those?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:36:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: All (#56)

And are you people serious?

You actually believe your zioFuny religions that there is NO separation of Church and state?

motherfucker. I don't believe in ANY White Cloud Father or any other religion.

And I have and ALWAYS will have EXACTLY the same rights as you evangelicals.

You want blood. For your kids? Adopt a State Religion. Guaranteed Death.

By Definition. And I'll need SOURCES for just exactly which religion you think is OKIE DOKIE for the UNITED STATES OPF AMERICA to adopt now.

Better drop those matches, cuase your standing in gasoline. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-20   11:39:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: mcgowanjm (#58)

You actually believe your zioFuny religions that there is NO separation of Church and state?

They will once Islam starts demanding the same privileges that Christianity has. Then the Wiccans, then the Scientologists, then who the hell knows what.

Unfortunately the wingnuts are too dumb to understand that and miss completely the brilliance of the church-state separation.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-20   11:44:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Skip Intro (#64)

They will once Islam starts demanding the same privileges that Christianity has.

WTF are you babbling about? They already have more priviliges.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   11:54:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: no gnu taxes (#76)

WTF are you babbling about? They already have more priviliges.

For instance?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-20   11:55:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Skip Intro (#78)

Muslim Prayer in Public Schools

http://www.suite101.com/content/muslim-prayer-in-public-schools-a26209

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   12:26:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: no gnu taxes (#88)

This is what the Superintendent says:

"At Carver, we provide afternoon recess for students to play, pray, talk, study or just have a break. Some Muslim students use this time for a prayer that, according to their faith, must be prayed during a specific time window each afternoon. That occurs at recess. Students of other faiths are free to pray or not pray, as they wish, but teachers and staff are prohibited from encouraging or discouraging prayer or from praying with students. " Try again padlock.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-20   12:31:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Skip Intro (#89)

And that's really believable, huh?

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At Carver Elementary School in San Diego students are praying 15 minutes during an afternoon recess and an hour after lunch. Extra breaks were put into the school day this year to accommodate 100 Muslim students that transferred from a closed Arabic languge program.

No Child Left Behind

Because of the No Child Left Behind mandate, many schools are eliminating recesses to allow more time for reading and math. Even science is being pushed to the back burner to allow more time for teaching. Lengthening the schools day is being considered and all-year school is becoming popular to aid in student information retention. With all this being demanded in other schools, it is surprising that some public schools are adding a recess for religious prayer. (Muslim religious prayer)

Christian Demands

Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute is asking the school district to provide rooms for Christians to pray, as well. "The school policy presumes that Christians are less religious and less inspired to worship and praise the Lord and come together," says Dacus." [Randy Dotinga, The Christian Science Monitor, scmonitor.com, July 12, 2007]

Court Involvement

Lisa Soronen, attorney with the National School Boards Association, says, "Most Americans don’t think about the fact that schools naturally accommodate Christians. There’s no school on Sunday, and we get days off for most of the major Christian holidays." Soronen added that the courts have not ruled on this issue so there is no precedent. Since the American Civil Liberties Union has remained silent on Muslim prayer, it may be up to Christian groups to take this matter to the courts. Meanwhile, schools are unclear how to handle the issue.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-20   12:49:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: no gnu taxes (#91)

And that's really believable, huh?

Compared to anything you post? Absolutely.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-20   16:09:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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