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Title: Nightfall in America~The Obama deficits portend a gloomy future.
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... d=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion
Published: Oct 19, 2010
Author: PETE DU PONT
Post Date: 2010-10-19 10:26:42 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: None
Views: 8966
Comments: 39

Nightfall in America

The Obama deficits portend a gloomy future.

Is it, as President Reagan's re-election commercial said, "morning in America"? Back then it was, but not anymore; it is economic evening in America as our nation's spending, government programs and deficits balloon. The federal deficit this fiscal year will be $1.6 trillion, or about 10.6% of gross domestic product. That is the largest deficit since World War II, and even President Obama's optimistic estimates show our deficits will not return to sustainable levels for at least the next decade.

The administration's projection of total federal spending over those 10 years (2011-20) is $45.8 trillion, while expected taxes and other receipts will be $37.3 trillion. The $8.5 trillion deficit is about 20% of spending. And all of these numbers are based on a full and lasting economic recovery, which, based on current experience, is a pretty optimistic projection.

Earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal's editorial page did an analysis of the federal government's debt that will be held by the public over the coming decade. When the Democrats took control of Congress in 2007, the debt held by the public was 36.2% of GDP. It rose to 40.2% the next year. This year it will be about 63.6%, next year 68.6%, then 77% of GDP in 2020. And the Obama administration's budget estimates 218% in 2050.

The reason for these rising deficits is the huge increases in federal spending--the intended growth of the federal government--that Congress and the president are pushing. The deficit in 2007 was $160 billion. In the next year the Pelosi-Reid Congress took it up to $458 billion, and when President Obama came into office in 2009 it hit $1.4 trillion. The current 2010 projected deficit is $1.6 trillion, which will lead to a tripling of our national debt from 2008 to 2020.

To the White House and congressional Democrats, these large figures are not a surprise, a mistake or a worry. They part of a strategy to Europeanize America, to make the government larger, broader and in charge of almost everything. And that would of course require broad and massive tax increases. The Washington Post's Robert Samuelson calculated that to fund all the future deficit expenditures would require taxes to increase "by roughly 50 percent from the average 1970-2009 tax burden." A 50% tax increase would become a permanent part of a declining America, just as such tax increases have become a permanent part of declining European countries.

Or as Sen. Judd Gregg, top Republican on the Budget Committee, put it the other day, this huge deficit spending "is a death certificate to the American dream for our children. Their lives will be mortgaged by the debt we put on their backs." Michael Boskin, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under the first President Bush, noted in The Wall Street Journal last week that President Obama will have added more debt in his first two years in office than George W. Bush did in eight years. In his first 15 months, Mr. Obama will have raised the debt burden as a percentage of GDP by more than President Reagan did in all of his eight years.

This administration wants larger, not smaller government; broader, not lesser regulation; and greater government, not greater individual liberties. That would make our country weaker on the international stage, make it much more difficult for us to handle future recessions, and even more difficult to implement new programs or strategies that may be needed to improve our economy. Lawrence Summers, now director of the president's National Economic Council, once asked, "How long can the world's biggest borrower remain the world's biggest power?" Obviously not very long, and we are rapidly moving in the wrong economic direction.

Mr. Boskin also pointed out that all this "is by a large margin the most risky fiscal strategy in American history." As noted above, the national debt will rise to more than double GDP, and once it gets close to 100%, Mr. Boskin adds, there will be "a dramatic slowing of economic growth by at least one percentage point a year," since people will expect higher taxes, higher interest rates and no visible resolution of the enormous and unsustainable deficits that have come to pass.

All of this means we are indeed beginning to see a new America, dusk rather than dawn, Europeanization rather than the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that has brought us the world's best economy and a standard of living for which the rest of the world strives. Unfortunately, that economy was yesterday's, but will not be tomorrow's.

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#1. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Tripled the deficit, more Americans unemployed than at any point in our nation's history. Foreclosures are at record highs. More Americans are receiving foodstamps than at any time in our nation's history. Bankruptcies are at record levels both personal and professional.

Given this...how can ANYONE want to keep in place the Democrats? How can anyone want to reinforce abject FAILURE?

Maybe the question is 'How can anyone put Political Party membership above Country?'

13 days and a wake up til this regime hears from us all. They aren't going to like it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   10:48:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Badeye (#1)

Maybe the question is 'How can anyone put Political Party membership above Country?'

Ask a Republican 'cause they're the party that turned prosperity and peace into the mess we've got now.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-19   11:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Deficits will be but a memory once the GOP takes control of spending in January, so there's really nothing to worry about.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   11:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lucysmom (#2) (Edited)

Ask a Republican 'cause they're the party that turned prosperity and peace into the mess we've got now.

And Barack Obama is incapable of fixing the mess.

The entire world is rushing away from government statism. The entire world except North Korea and the Obama Administration.

Cuba has fired 20% of it's government employees. The U.K. is cutting government spending by as much as 25% in most departments. Germany refused to go along along with Obama's big Keynsian stimulus plan and chose tax and spending cuts instead. Now their economy is doing much better than ours (with a 2.4% increase in household consumption and more than a 20% increase in business investment last quarter). As I've pointed out many times here "Red" China is already more capitalist than the U.S.. ditto for many ex-Communist, eastern block countries. Russia has a flat rate income tax of 13%, a flat corporate tax rate of 20%, and a flat rate 9% tax on investment income. Compare that to our convoluted tax system which has the highest corporate tax rates in the world.

Obama is an unreconstructed socialist nincompoop who doesn't have a clue on how the world really works. All he has are his demented, green with envy, victimization theories from his Marxist Professors and "Structural Feminist" pals.

Yes, as Palin pointed out yesterday if the GOP blows it again, a third party is the next step. (I've been predicting for a year and she will jump ship in 2012 and lead the effort if the GOP doesn't get it's act together).

Most importantly, GOP Governors and Attorney's General are finally stepping up to take power back from the federal government. We'll do it through the courts and through defacto nullification of federal laws. It's happening all over the country with Obamacare, gun rights, medical marijuana, unfunded federal mandates, and more. This makes me more encouraged about our future than I have ever been in my 50 years on earth.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   11:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#2)

Maybe the question is 'How can anyone put Political Party membership above Country?' Ask a Republican 'cause they're the party that turned prosperity and peace into the mess we've got now.

Wrong again, goofy.

Democrats have controlled the House since January of 2007.

Look up what the unemployment rate was the day Queen Pelosi became Speaker.

Look up what the deficit was on that same day.

Compare it to where both are TODAY.

Game, set and match.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   11:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#5)

Democrats have controlled the House since January of 2007.

Bush is 100% to blame for the mess we were in when Obama took office.

Medicare Prescription Drugs; No Child Left Behind; the 2002 Highway Pork-barrel bill; the expense and unnecessary Iraq War; and the massive Hurricane Katrina waste, fraud, and abuse were all created by a GOP President and a GOP Congress.

The Wall Street Bailout was also proposed by a GOP President.

Yes, of course the Democrat Congress made it worse. And Bush didn't veto squat. Bush vetoed 10 bills in 8 years. Compare that to Jerry Ford, who vetoed 66 bills in about 2 years. Most of Bush's vetoes were about things like stem cell research, not spending.

Of course, Obama has made it much worse with his horrific healthcare bill and "stimulus" (which was nothing more than a giant payoff to government bureaucrat unions).

F then both.

Right now I want grid lock. If the GOP decides to spend money instead, we'll get a Ross Perot type candidate in 2012. Maybe Palin. Maybe Trump. Maybe someone else.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   11:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

Bush is 100% to blame for the mess we were in when Obama took office.

Simplistic.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   12:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

Simplistic.

You're floating down the river of denial.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-19   13:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

Cheer up!

Deficits will no longer matter after November 2.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-19   13:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#8)

Simplistic. You're floating down the river of denial.

The irony of YOU saying this to anyone in the forum, let alone me, is hilarious, goofy.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   13:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#7)

Simplistic.

If George Bush would have vetoed one major Democrat spending bill then I would agree that there was plenty of blame to go around. He didn't veto any Democrat spending bill because he LOVED to spend OUR money, as evidenced by the drunken orgy of spending that he undertook with a GOP Congress.

Of course the Democrats made it worse. That's what Democrats do -- centralize power in the hands of the federal state. The GOP is supposed to fight this and they didn't. That is the fundamental problem.

Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi are in charge today because Bush, Trent Lott, Dennis Hastert, Bill Frist, Tom Delay, and all of the other GOP leadership of the last decade are lying sacks of shit.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   14:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler, badeye (#11)

If George Bush would have vetoed one major Democrat spending bill then I would agree that there was plenty of blame to go around. He didn't veto any Democrat spending bill because he LOVED to spend OUR money, as evidenced by the drunken orgy of spending that he undertook with a GOP Congress.

And again, McConnell and Boehner, who will take over Congressional leadership if the GOP takes both chambers, both voted "AYE" on Medicare Part D.

As I keep telling Badeye though, that's all ancient history, the second the GOP takes control of the House of Representatives next January, they become 100% solely responsible for the deficit. Obama can't sign anything or spend anything that doesn't first originate in the House.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   14:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#5)

Democrats have controlled the House since January of 2007.

Look up what the unemployment rate was the day Queen Pelosi became Speaker.

Look up what the deficit was on that same day.

Starting january I expect the deficit to be wiped out, and the unemployment rate to fall.

Don't you?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   14:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#11)

While I also wish Bush would have veto'd quite a few spending bills...saying this is 'all Bush's fault' is simplistic.

What undermined the entire economy began in the 1970's.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   14:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#12)

Don't waste my time with bullshit, GO.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   14:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: go65 (#12)

Obama can't sign anything or spend anything that doesn't first originate in the House.

That is 100% correct. As Sarah Palin said yesterday, McConnell and Boehner better toe the line or they are toast.

On the other hand, the President can veto spending bills. Bush didn't veto anything.

Even if the Congress overrides a veto, the President can still impound the money that is appropriated and refuse to spend it, because the President runs the bureaucracy. Nixon did this. Bush did not.

Bush was the problem. It's his fault that we are in the mess we have today. It's his fault that Obama is President and Pelosi is speaker.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   14:54:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Badeye (#14) (Edited)

What undermined the entire economy began in the 1970's.

There was a balance budgeted when Bush took office.

Had Bush and the GOP Congress kept spending under control, half of the national debt could have been paid off at this point. That's what the projections showed. Instead, we are drowning in debt like never before.

Bush didn't have to create Medicare part D, invade Iraq, etc.

So yes, I blame Bush for the mess we are in. I also blame the wimpy GOP leadership in the Congress for going along with him.

This is why we need divided government. Divided government worked under Reagan. Divided government worked under Clinton.

We cannot trust one party to be in charge. Look at the Obamacare fiasco. Most of the so-called Democrat "moderates" caved at the last minute and voted for this monstrosity because their party threatened them with loss of committee seats and lack of party campaign funds. Sure they will all lose their seats, but Obamacare will still be law and continue to harm the economy. Even if the GOP has the stones to overturn it, Obama will just veto it. How many years will we have to suffer with this?????

This would have never happened had we elected a better GOP candidate in 2000. So, this is all George Bush's fault.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   15:06:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#17)

There was a balance budgeted when Bush took office.

Utter bullshit. There was an 'accounting trick' that removed Social Security from the Federal Budget.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   15:09:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#18) (Edited)

Utter bullshit. There was an 'accounting trick' that removed Social Security from the Federal Budget.

Seriously, please allow me to give you and others a little education here.

The government has no legal way to save money. They can't invest in the stock market. They can't open a bank account. It's against the law.

The government keeps two sets of books -- Social Security and the General Fund. This is just like a married couple who keeps separate checking accounts. The General Fund (husband) was spending more than it earned. The Social Security Fund (the wife) spent less than it earned. So, the husband borrowed money from the wife to keep the household afloat.

At the end of the 90s, the household's books were balanced.

So, here's the accounting fiction: Today the government has $10 trillion of debt to outsiders. They have $4 trillion of inter-governmental debt, some from Social Security and some from the Federal Reserve. The inter-government debt is a bookkeeping fiction. If there were only one set of books the $4 trillion would disappear overnight.

The government keeps up this fiction because they lied to Americans for 60+ years, claiming that Social Security was a retirement savings fund. It's not. It's a welfare program for the elderly. Social Security taxes are not "savings contributions", they are taxes.

So yes, the federal government budget was indeed balanced at the end of the 90s. But, the inter-government debt continued to increase because of this accounting fiction.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   15:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: jwpegler (#19)

Utter bullshit. There was an 'accounting trick' that removed Social Security from the Federal Budget.

My wife pulls this stunt you describe, thats her ass.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   15:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye (#20)

My wife pulls this stunt you describe, thats her ass.

Most people would agree, especially me. But that's the way the government works. This is the problem. They don't follow the normal rules.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   15:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler (#21)

They don't follow the normal rules.

They MAKE THEM UP as they go along. Thats why the claim 'we had a balanced budget' is utter bullshit, JW.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-19   15:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jwpegler, badeye (#16)

That is 100% correct. As Sarah Palin said yesterday, McConnell and Boehner better toe the line or they are toast.

Yep, and that's why the GOP will have to answer for any deficit after January of 2011. I look forward to how they will cut $1.2 trillion from the budget while keeping the Bush tax cuts and strengthening the economy to spur job creation.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:40:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jwpegler (#19)

So, here's the accounting fiction: Today the government has $10 trillion of debt to outsiders. They have $4 trillion of inter-governmental debt, some from Social Security and some from the Federal Reserve. The inter-government debt is a bookkeeping fiction. If there were only one set of books the $4 trillion would disappear overnight.

Remember how Gore was ridiculed for his "lock box" idea?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:40:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jwpegler, badeye (#17)

Had Bush and the GOP Congress kept spending under control, half of the national debt could have been paid off at this point. That's what the projections showed. Instead, we are drowning in debt like never before.

this is reality, Badeye doesn't like reality.

Badeye, have you heard yet how the GOP will eliminate $1.2 trillion in red ink next January?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-19   17:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: go65 (#23) (Edited)

Yep, and that's why the GOP will have to answer for any deficit after January of 2011. I look forward to how they will cut $1.2 trillion from the budget while keeping the Bush tax cuts and strengthening the economy to spur job creation.

I absolutely believe that it can be done, but not in one year. It will take 5 to 10 years to get rid of the annual deficit. Who knows how long it will take to get rid of the national debt after that.

I also believe that the coward GOP politicians don't have the cajones to do it. We'll see.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   18:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: go65 (#24) (Edited)

Remember how Gore was ridiculed for his "lock box" idea?

I do, but the point is that the government is not allowed to save or invest money. Under law, the government has no choice but to spend what they take in.

So Gore's "lock box" idea was just another political ploy to gain votes.

Here is a better idea: Fess up and tell the truth. Social Security is just a another welfare program. Put it on budget and we can wipe out $4 TRILLION in paper debt overnight. Then we can deal with the real problems.


If you want government to intervene domestically, you’re a liberal. If you want government to intervene overseas, you’re a conservative. If you want government to intervene everywhere, you’re a moderate. If you don’t want government to intervene anywhere, you’re an extremist. -- Joe Sobran

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-19   18:43:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: go65 (#23)

Yep, and that's why the GOP will have to answer for any deficit after January of 2011.

(chuckle)

I'm not sure which is more satifying, the fact you inadvertently admit your beloved Democratic Party is about to be fired in a landslide of historic proportions...or the wishful thinking voters will blame the GOP for the 3 trillion dollar increase Owe-bama produced in his first year in office.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   9:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#25)

this is reality, Badeye doesn't like reality.

Don't waste my time like this.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   9:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Badeye (#28)

I'm not sure which is more satifying, the fact you inadvertently admit your beloved Democratic Party is about to be fired in a landslide of historic proportions...or the wishful thinking voters will blame the GOP for the 3 trillion dollar increase Owe-bama produced in his first year in office.

I'm looking forward, not backward. As of the day Speaker Boehner is sworn in, every dollar of deficit will be squarely the responsibility of the GOP.

I look forward to the results.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-20   13:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#26)

I absolutely believe that it can be done, but not in one year. It will take 5 to 10 years to get rid of the annual deficit. Who knows how long it will take to get rid of the national debt after that.

I also believe that the coward GOP politicians don't have the cajones to do it. We'll see.

I believe it can be done if the economy is growing, but the experience of several countries in Europe, and our own experiences in 1937 show that cutting spending during a downturn only makes the problem worse. I fully expect the GOP to attempt to shut down the government come January, leading to a second recession.

As Badeye likes to say, things will get worse next year.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-20   13:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: go65 (#30)

I'm looking forward, not backward. As of the day Speaker Boehner is sworn in, every dollar of deficit will be squarely the responsibility of the GOP.

(chuckle)

I see this is like dealing with a death in the family for you.

The four stages of Political Grief:

1. Denial the loved one is even sick. You did that for the past year.

2. Outbursts of anger towards the doctors that accurately diagnosed the disease, and predicted it was fatal. You've sure done THIS ONE with me for the past few months, eh? (laughing)

3. Acceptance there is in fact a fatal disease, but clinging to irrational hope the loved one will 'miraculously recover' despite all known evidence to the contrary. This is where you are right now...hoping that Boehner and the GOP will be blamed for Owe-bama, Pelosi and Reids THREE TRILLION DOLLAR INCREASE OF THE DEFICIT, in two more years.

Its pretty amusing, GO65...gotta admit you have me laughing today.

I'll get to the 'fourth stage' when the symptoms appear in your posts after the election itself.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   14:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Badeye (#32)

I see this is like dealing with a death in the family for you.

I accept that the GOP will win the House. I accept that as of the day Speaker Boehner is sworn in, the GOP will control the powers of the purse and thus will be solely responsible for the deficit.

Is this too hard for YOU to accept?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-20   14:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: go65 (#33)

I accept that the GOP will win the House. I accept that as of the day Speaker Boehner is sworn in, the GOP will control the powers of the purse and thus will be solely responsible for the deficit.

rotflmao!

Nobody outside of hardcore leftists will ever believe, let alone vote, based on this absurd notion, GO65.

I 'accept' the fact you can't spin whats about to happen effectively.

Owe-bama oversaw a tripling of the deficit, and you want to blame BOEHNER?

Good luck with that.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   14:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Badeye (#34)

Nobody outside of hardcore leftists will ever believe, let alone vote, based on this absurd notion, GO65.

Sorry Badeye, once the GOP take over the House they take over the power of the purse. The government can't spend dollar one without House authorization of funds.

Sorry, but with power comes responsibility. And as of the day John Boehner puts takes the gavel, the GOP will be responsible for all government spending.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-20   14:47:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Badeye (#34)

Owe-bama oversaw a tripling of the deficit, and you want to blame BOEHNER?

You must be having a comprehension problem. I will blame Boehner and the GOP, as will most Americans, for any deficit spending AFTER the GOP takes control of the Congress.

Is that clear?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-20   14:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: go65 (#36)

You must be having a comprehension problem. I will blame Boehner and the GOP, as will most Americans, for any deficit spending AFTER the GOP takes control of the Congress.

Is that clear?

Not in the least, given you've defended Owe-bama tripling the budget as if it was just 'business as usual' for the past year in this forum.

Were you lying then, or are you lying now, GO65?

(roaring with laughter)

Can't have it both ways...the database has a couple hundred of YOUR POSTS defending deficit spending this past year.

And I will CHEERFULLY cut and paste your stated views throughout the next two years, if you really want to 'go there'.

Database's are wonderful things....

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   15:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Badeye (#37)

Were you lying then, or are you lying now, GO65?

How is stating that Boehner and the GOP will be responsible for deficits after they take control of the power of the purse "a lie"?

Is there some magical way that the government will appropriate funds without House approval that I'm not aware of?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-20   16:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65 (#38)

Were you lying then, or are you lying now, GO65?

How is stating that Boehner and the GOP will be responsible for deficits after they take control of the power of the purse "a lie"?

You've been DEFENDING the deficit spending under Pelosi, Reid, and then Owe- bama since JANUARY OF 2007.

Boehner will be responsible for the House GOP budget beginning in 2011.

If they increase the deficit, I'll vote them out, as I helped to do in 2006.

Which you know.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-20   16:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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