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Title: Still no word on the Gulf Coast evacuation
Source: Ibluafartsky
URL Source: http://none
Published: Oct 14, 2010
Author: Ibluafartsky
Post Date: 2010-10-14 04:18:35 by Ibluafartsky
Keywords: mcgowanjm, leftwing, loon
Views: 62888
Comments: 86

Some left wing loon, mcgowanjm/mcclown, predicted millions of people would have to be evacuated from the Gulf Coast due to the massive oil spill and that hundreds of thousands would die. Has the MSM been covering this up? Or has mcclown made an ass of itself once again?

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#24. To: All (#14) (Edited)

SOURCE

www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spi...917/Oct-12-2010_11-05-pm/

And thank you, Fred, for doin g A K's job of picking out the MOST outrageous Truth I posted above and having me verify.

I can do the same with all, but then I'm busy being a JR Reuters, while not getting paid the Big $$$.

LMFAO Keep 'em coming folks.

Gulf Coast Ecocide Continues Apace. No end in site.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-14   10:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Badeye (#17)
(Edited)

You're 'dire prediction' on this topic has been shown to be ridiculous.

Then again, I don't know of a single one you've offered us that has come to pass.

Must be nice. That ignorance of yours. While it lasts.

"We pull up to the beach and hop off the boat on to large grey boulders covered with barnacles and seaweed. We pick our way over the rocks about 100 feet to an open, flat marshy area where a small shallow stream trickles from between the hills on either side, feeding into the Sound. I will find out later that the place I’m standing is now known as “The Death Marsh,” and ”Diesel Beach.” But as I walk along the little spring and my boots begin to squish, and pop out of the spongy muck with a perfect mud-sucking sound effect noise, I have no idea.

Unsure where to go or what to do, I figure our time is limited, so I may as well just pick a spot and dig. so I unpack a small garden trowel from my pack, and I began digging in a spot covered with gravelly sand. About the third shovelful down, I realize that the sand has turned to a strange mud. It’s gloppy and sticky and clings together with a slimy looking texture. It’s hard to get it off my trowel. I smell something I can’t quite place. Water starts seeping in to the bottom of the hole – water with a sheen of pink, purple, green, yellow, orange… it’s clearly an oil sheen. I watch it for a moment, stunned. I didn’t know what to expect, but for some reason this hadn’t been it. I wonder now about the smell, and I pick up a plum-sized clump of mud with the trowel and draw it to my nose to see if I can smell any trace of oil in this marshy sediment. I recoil and gag as the unmistakable smell of petroleum fills my nose, my eyes, my lungs. It wasn’t just a swampy smell, I’d noticed – it was oil, and it was powerful."

www.themudflats.net/2010/...-with-the-ghost-of-exxon/

No oil. No Growth. For the Top 50 000. The planet will do just fine w/o either.

we're not God's greatest Creation. We're the fucking asteroid. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-14   10:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#17)

Look at that shit over in the BN column to the right.

How much of that will be viable 20 years from now when the Ecocide of the Oil/Corexit smeared GoM is STILL visible to the naked eye.

Death everywhere.

;}

" But, the media event, which included a tour of a local processing facility, may do little to quash the concerns of those skeptical of the fresh catch. When News Five asked the restaurant where today's lunch came from we found out it isn't exactly what BP had promoted.

The crab claws, which were bought from a local distributor, were shipped in from Baltimore, Maryland. The mullet was caught in Florida. The oysters came from Texas and Florida. And, the shrimp, though it is local, was caught before the oil spill, then frozen and served up daily."

Source: WKRG Ch 5 Link above.

"Suddenly, thoughts of the Gulf of Mexico flood my mind. I think of BP telling everyone not to worry – that BP “does business right.” I thought of Exxon, 21 years ago telling the residents of coastal communities in the Sound “We will make you whole.” This place is not whole. The people of the Sound are not whole. I think of BP covering up the thick layers of oil washing up on the Gulf coast with dump trucks of clean sand so everything will look fine. They spend their energy trying to create another skin, another mask to hide the crime done to another place. They hope that the place will forget, but it won’t. I look down into my oily hole. I wouldn’t want my children digging on this beach.

I find myself feeling my throat getting tight from the ever-increasing petroleum stench, and from the feeling you get right before you cry. Here I was at my appointment, and the place I loved still held the scars of abuse, of violent crime, of life stolen so long ago. This wound was raw, and toxic and there was nothing left to be done. There were no cleanup crews here, there was nobody doing anything, and nobody would do anything ever, because it’s done. Exxon said so."

http://www.themudflats.net/2010/07/06/walking-with-the-ghost-of-exxon/

Corporations will not exist in Ten years.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-14   11:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mcgowanjm (#24)

And thank you, Fred, for doin g A K's job of picking out the MOST outrageous Truth I posted above and having me verify.

No trouble at all.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-14   11:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#26) (Edited)

Post something else about the US/bp Ecocide.

And I'll be here until banned. See Goldi-Lox that zioFundy for details.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

"“It’s time to go,” says Morgan, noting that this oil has been here longer than she’s been alive. We quickly scoop up some oily water and mud into mason jars that we bought this morning, and we head back to the boat, picking our way over the barnacle-covered rocks. We rinse our boots before boarding, and they leave a sheen in the water. I’m glad it’s time to go. Not only am I feeling more than a bit helpless and overwhelmed, but the smell has given me a headache, and I’m beginning to feel nauseated.

I cannot imagine the spill responders back then, and the ones today, working in a far more toxic environment than this, with no respirators, and without adequate protection, day after day, for months at a time. The people who send them to do this work and sign their paychecks don’t care if they get sick. And they don’t care if they die."

www.themudflats.net/2010/...-with-the-ghost-of-exxon/

Fuck with me and pull back a nub. ;}

25 Million have had their Auto Immune Systems Compromised. Corexit is designed to be hemorrhagic. Think what happens to that dog drinking antifreeze, then think of the kids playing in the beach on the GoM.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-14   11:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war, All (#28) (Edited)

And just a I Don't Know where to Put this Shit New NEWS:

War put up that bee mystery Military joins with Civilians to find that Virus/Fungus is the cause.

And I replied with : BAYER neonicotinoids and THEN as now, I was charged with misleading/off topic resonse. As the TRUTH catches up with the Lie:

"What the Times article did not explore -- nor did the study disclose -- was the relationship between the study's lead author, Montana bee researcher Dr. Jerry Bromenshenk, and Bayer Crop Science. In recent years Bromenshenk has received a significant research grant from Bayer to study bee pollination. Indeed, before receiving the Bayer funding, Bromenshenk was lined up on the opposite side: He had signed on to serve as an expert witness for beekeepers who brought a class-action lawsuit against Bayer in 2003. He then dropped out and received the grant. (10 October 2010)

www.energybulletin.net/st...3/food-agriculture-oct-13

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-14   11:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

And while killing the FREE pollination/honey producing bees

(and the Livlihood of the Gulf Coast Creatures;}

These Multinationals have given us Nothing in return:

"But transforming a crop's way of taking up water and fertilizer -- the goal of engineering crops that can withstand drought and use nitrogen more efficiently -- are infinitely more complex. These intricate processes developed through millions of years of evolution. They don't involve a single gene, but rather groups of genes interacting in ways that are little understood.

... From my perspective, what we're seeing is signs that GMO technology is much cruder and less effective than its champions have let on. After decades of hype and billions of dollars worth of research, much of it publicly funded, the industry has managed to market exactly two traits. More devastating still, it has failed on its own terms: it has not delivered the promised dazzling yield gains. (12 October 2010)"

www.energybulletin.net/st...3/food-agriculture-oct-13

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-14   11:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ibluafartsky (#0)

Hilarious thread.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-14   11:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mcgowanjm (#20)

Thing is, it’s one thing fighting the incompetency of government bureaucracy, but quite another to fight a corporate entity determined to minimize any financial damages to itself, citing its shareholders as the ones to which it must ultimately answer to…"

Does that mean you are not inviting BP to dinner? Oh well, BP is probably eating at Chief Fartinthesky's place anyway.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-14   11:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#15)

Quit whining about it. It isn't a double standard. It verifies your sources. It helps the reader know you are not making stuff up. It gives proper credit to the author.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-14   13:16:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mcgowanjm, Fred Mertz, All (#14)

BP Seafood Snafu, WKRG, October 12, 2010:

HOW MANY MILLION WERE EVACUATED, MCCLOWN? Where are they? What is the death toll?

National Shrimp Festival may have given Gulf Coast post-oil spill ...Oct 12, 2010 ... Shrimp Festival 2010.JPG View full size(Press-Register/Kate Mercer) Crowds walk ... GULF SHORES, Ala. — While totals were still being added Monday, ... most of the summer, festival attendance was up, said Don McPherson, ...

blog.al.com/.../2010/10/national_shrimp_festival_may_h.html - Cached

Shrimp Festival boosts business along oil-spill-weary Gulf coast ...Published: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 5:00 AM Updated: Sunday, ...

blog.al.com/live/2010/.../shrimp_festival_boosts_busines.html - Cached

National Shrimp Festival may have given Gulf Coast post-oil spill ...Shrimp Festival 2010.JPG. Festival on October 9, 2010. Attendance appears to have climbed over last year's event. GULF SHORES, Ala. The four-day festival ...

www.daylife.com/article/0cCvdxVdyKggE?q=BP+p.l.c. - Cached

http: //blog.al.com/live/2010/10/national_shrimp_festival_start.html

National Shrimp Festival starts Thursday in Gulf Shores

Published: Sunday, October 03, 2010, 12:03 PM

Guy Busby Press-Register

GULF SHORES, Alabama -- Interest appears to be strong in the National Shrimp Festival and the celebration could provide a needed boost for businesses after a summer slowed by the oil spill, event organizers said.

The annual festival kicks off Thursday for four days of music, art, seafood and fun on the Gulf Shores Public Beach, Don McPherson, special events coordinator for the Alabama Gulf Coast Chamber of Commerce, said.

Organizers believe the turnout could reach the 300,000 figure of recent years, he said.

"From what we’re hearing from a lot of the rental agencies, they’re coming," McPherson said Friday. "With the weather and everything and just the fact that people really want to come back down to the beach, we’re expecting a good crowd. We’re going to have a great festival."

All of the more than 300 vendor spaces have been booked, McPherson said. That total includes 38 food vendors as well as fine arts displays and arts and retail booths.

Zatarain's seasonings is again the main sponsor of the festival. The Alabama Organized Seafood Association is also stepping up its participation as part of efforts to promote Gulf seafood since the spill.

"They’re doing everything possible to get the word out that the seafood is safe and to encourage people to eat it," he said.

The seafood association is also sponsoring one of the two music stages this year. McPherson said the music lineup for the celebration promises to be outstanding this year.

John Rich, best known as part of the country group Big and Rich, will be the Friday night headliner on the west stage from 8:30 to 10 p.m.

Another featured performer will be Lou Gramm, formerly of Foreigner, who will perform Saturday night on the east stage, McPherson said.

"We were really lucky to get some great acts lined up this year," McPherson said.

Other attractions will include the return of the popular NASCAR display and an Air Force F-16 simulator, allowing participants to experience the feel of flying in the fighter.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-14   14:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mcgowanjm (#25)

www.themudflats.net

You've got to be a complete fookin idiot to use that as a credible source!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-14   14:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

Fuck with me

You're too much of a fookin coward, mcclown!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-14   14:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone, mcgowanjm (#33)

Quit whining about it. It isn't a double standard. It verifies your sources. It helps the reader know you are not making stuff up. It gives proper credit to the author.

He might as well be making shit up by using fookin Mudflats as a credible source! Those leftist assholes make shit up all the time. Mcclown is such a moron.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-14   14:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: mcgowanjm, All (#37)

Come out of the closet, mcclown! Be a man instead of a snippy little ankle- biter!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-14   14:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, All (#32)

Does that mean you are not inviting BP to dinner?

What I love is the TOTAL Slave Structure of the Corporation.

Gitler could only Dream of Having these LockStep Minions.

;}

So where were we. Oh yeah, Folks thinking this well is dead.

www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

How does a WellHead that's DEAD,....WAIT FOR IT....TILT.

And then get CLOUDED OVER.

And why does the ROV then find something else to look at bewfore the Feed is cut.

So many questions, so much other news that the MSM/LibertysFlame does not find interesting.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And more incoming.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-15   9:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#33)

Quit whining about it.

I'm not Whining about Anything.

I'm calling you on your Double Standard Bullshit.

Big Difference. See, I'm on the Planet's side and so don't have to worry about silly things like consistency and justice.

LMFAO

And about that Evac of the GoM which I said from Day 5 should happen:

1/3 of coastal Alabama population “would move to another community if they could” — 71% say “permanent ecological damage to the Gulf” October 14th, 2010 at 07:57 PM

Poll: Coastal Alabamians fear oil spill caused permanent damage to Gulf, Press-Register, October 14, 2010:

71 … Read more >>

www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-15   9:29:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mcgowanjm (#40)

www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

Wow, that link is chock full of news items and videos. Thanks.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-15   9:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Fred Mertz (#41)

Wow, that link is chock full of news items and videos. Thanks.

;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-15   9:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mcgowanjm (#40)

I'm not Whining about Anything.

You're crying and whining all the time, you big baby!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-15   13:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ibluafartsky (#43)

"You're crying and whining all the time, you big baby!"

Said the big bloviating idiot in his usual fashion as he engages in his favorite pastime of baiting and hating as he does drive bys on the Internet.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-15   13:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ferret Mike, mcclown (#44)

big bloviating idiot

Yes, mcclown is all of that. Your whackjob liberal twin is an internet coward who makes outrageous claims and allegations. When confronted he hides like a scared little girl!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-15   13:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: mcgowanjm (#39)

So many questions, so much other news that the MSM/LibertysFlame does not find interesting.

Go ahead post something interesting.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-16   0:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mcgowanjm (#40)

1/3 of coastal Alabama population “would move to another community if they could” — 71% say “permanent ecological damage to the Gulf” October 14th, 2010 at 07:57 PM

Does this indicate there was an evacuation, turdbrain?

National Shrimp Festival may have given Gulf Coast post-oil spill ...Shrimp Festival 2010.JPG. Festival on October 9, 2010. Attendance appears to have climbed over last year's event. GULF SHORES, Ala. The four-day festival ...

www.daylife.com/article/0cCvdxVdyKggE?q=BP+p.l.c. - Cached

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-16   0:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Go ahead post something interesting.

“This beach is just as contaminated as the rest, I’m sorry,” Kirby said, adding, “I took the local government officials’ word that these beaches were not impacted and stopped my testing in Destin.”

# USF researchers say ultraviolet tests show 'contaminated' beach ... Oct 15, 2010 ... “This beach is just as contaminated as the rest, I'm sorry,” Kirby said, adding, “I took the local government officials' word that these ...

www.waltonsun.com/news/li...632-usf-contaminated.html - Cached Å8; #

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-16   10:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#48)

“This beach is just as contaminated as the rest, I’m sorry,” Kirby said...

My dad is on a cruise in the GoM right now. I forgot to warn him. Aruba, Curacao, and Cozumel are three stops that I recall with Miami being his final destination.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-16   10:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Fred Mertz (#49)

Gee, maybe less time offering up personal attacks on the internet, and more time taking care of your family in the 'real world' might be in order, eh freddie?

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-16   11:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Badeye (#50)

Gee, maybe less time offering up personal attacks on the internet, and more time taking care of your family in the 'real world' might be in order, eh freddie?

When was the last time YOU posted about taking care of a family member? LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-16   11:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: mininggold (#51)

Should I tell him I went grocery shopping for the 90 year-old lady yesterday? She's on the mend at home after a spill she took a month ago which cracked some of her ribs FYI.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-16   11:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold (#51)

When was the last time YOU posted about taking care of a family member?

No reason to post the obvious, mingster...of course you aren't real good with the 'obvious' as we see daily.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-16   12:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Fred Mertz (#52)

No surprise what gambling addicts will do for money, freddie.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-16   12:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#53)

No reason to post the obvious, mingster...of course you aren't real good with the 'obvious' as we see daily.

Yeah right. They enable you to spend all your time on the internet and you won't even put in a good word for them.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-16   12:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Badeye (#54)

Get your worthless and ample butt off the internet and get out back raking leaves before I combat pistol your worthless ass.

Mary-N-ish  posted on  2010-10-16   12:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Fred Mertz (#52)

Should I tell him I went grocery shopping for the 90 year-old lady yesterday? She's on the mend at home after a spill she took a month ago which cracked some of her ribs FYI.

I hope she's doing better. Don't waste your time expecting any symp from the sociopaths here though. Just look at them as being the true face of the Tea Party.

I've spent more time at hospitals lately too, ferrying friends and family to and from their appts. I don't know why but it seems to be a cancer year.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-16   12:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Mary-N-ish, Badeye (#56)

"Get your worthless and ample butt off the internet and get out back raking leaves before I combat pistol your worthless ass".

LOL....first post, and it was to you BE, wanna take a guess who this re- hash is? You are popular, but I could be running a close second...lmao..

'Mary-N-ish'...female...male..? Both?

"Allah Is An Eunuch"

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-16   12:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Murron (#58)

Git yer hillbilly hands off my husband or I'll take my combat pistol and whip you silly. The way you look I might be too late.

Mary-N-ish  posted on  2010-10-16   14:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Fred Mertz (#52)

Should I tell him I went grocery shopping for the 90 year-old lady yesterday? She's on the mend at home after a spill she took a month ago which cracked some of her ribs FYI.

BE will tell you that when he goes grocery shopping he takes up two handicapped spaces with his hummer, laughing.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-16   15:24:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Mary-N-ish (#59)

"Git yer hillbilly hands.."

What? Am I supposed to be insulted by that?

Now lets see....

Up North they got...rats, roaches, bedbugs, slums, ghetto's, burrio's, incest, priest raping children, race riots, beheadings (illegals killing their own children), muslims killing their families for honor, gangs, drive by's, assassinations (illegals killing young adults), homeless street people, underground homeless living in sewage, everyone keeping up with everyone else, death crushing debt out the eyeballs to keep up appearances....and so on...

Out West they got...Illegal Aliens, bankruptcy, homeless, incest, inbreeds, beheadings, gang wars, drug wars, drive by's, latina's killing blacks, blacks killing latina's, Illegal Aliens murdering ranchers, poisoning water and animals, breaking into homes, robbing americans of their homes with the help of this corrupt government...and so on...

Yeah! hillbilly, I can live with it...fresh air, mountains, pasture land, horses, trees, good food, home grown veggies and fruit....

ta..ta....enjoy your tofu...but check it for BUGS first!

"Allah Is An Eunuch"

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-16   15:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Murron (#61)

Mary and Isherwood? Using hand gun as an anchor point in trollish posts?

This is an interesting name for a troll account. I wonder who this really is.

I've used Isherwood William's as a returning bannee account at Free Republic; the main character in George R. Steward's book, 'Earth Abides,' but have never seen anyone else use the long or short version of this name in any way in posts before. Fascinating.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-16   16:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Fred Mertz (#49)

My dad is on a cruise in the GoM right now. I forgot to warn him. Aruba, Curacao, and Cozumel are three stops that I recall with Miami being his final destination.

Forgot to warn him?

IF he doesn't know by now, then he doesn't want to know.

Kind like a lot of folks here at LF and beyond.

BTW, my niece just got married and is on a cruise ship to Cozumel.

Same as your Dad. She doesn't want to know either.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-17   9:18:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#46)

Go ahead post something interesting.

And now the GoM is dead.

And everything happening to the imploding US EMpire just gets magnified, because the GoM is Totally dependent on the mercies of the state:

The Coming Collapse of the Real Estate Market (October 14, 2010)

The system for financing mortgages and regulating that financing has failed, completely and utterly. The mortgage and real estate markets are now in collapse.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-17   9:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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