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Title: Bacon Strips Spelling Out 'Pig' Left Outside SC Islamic Center
Source: TPMMuckraker
URL Source: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme ... th_carolina_islamic_center.php
Published: Oct 13, 2010
Author: TPMMuckraker
Post Date: 2010-10-13 12:28:29 by Happy Quanzaa
Keywords: None
Views: 37719
Comments: 54

Slices of bacon were laid down on a brink walkway to the Florence Islamic Center in Florence, S.C. on Sunday in a manner that spelled out "PIG CHOPS." The incident -- evidently aimed the center because of the Islamic dietary restrictions against pork -- is just the latest in a string of anti-Muslim episodes around the country.

In fact this isn't the first time even this particular mosque has been hit -- earlier this year vandals broke windows in the facility, according to local news station ABC 15.

A conflicting Associated Press report said the bacon slices were arranged to spell out "PIG CHUMP." The bacon slices were placed on the sidewalk between 7 a.m. and 2 p.m. on Sunday, Florence Police Major Carlos Raines told the AP.

"There's absolutely nothing that identifies it as a mosque," Raines told the AP. "It's an insult, and I'm sure that's what it was intended for."

Mushtaq Hussain, a member of the center, made the police complaint, telling officers he believed the incident was a hate crime because Muslims do not eat pork, according to SCNow.com. Raines said the department plans to increase patrols near the center.

Abdul Ghani, a member of the board of the 30-family large Islamic center, told TPMMuckraker that members of the center weren't too worried about the incident, but he said it indicated that there was a need for non-Muslims to be educated about the beliefs of Muslims.

"We didn't take it too serious," he said. "We wanted to let everybody know what happened. People don't know about our religion and they are just more influenced by the news."

He said that the South Carolina neighborhood where the Islamic Center is located is fairly diverse.

"We are here, mixed, between... American people and Pakistani and Arabs," Ghani said. "We are not too big a group of people, not too big a community, but we are mostly family people and small business people here."

The Florence Islamic Center is currently raising money to build a Masjid in the town, according to their website. Several anti-Muslim incidents have been tied to the construction of new mosques.

Police are investigating, according to local news station NewsChannel 15. TPMMuckraker left a message with a police spokesman, but the call was not immediately returned.

A top Justice Department official recently visited Murfreesboro, Tenn. in an attempt to reassure Muslims who have been the victims of arson and vandalism in that area. The official, Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez, had noted in a previous speech that Muslim-Americans "continue to struggle for acceptance in many communities" and "have not yet realized the full promise of equal opportunity and equal justice."

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#2. To: Happy Quanzaa (#0)

"Mushtaq Hussain, a member of the center, made the police complaint, telling officers he believed the incident was a hate crime because Muslims do not eat pork"

"What am I supposed to do? Go on television and tell ten million people they have to be nice to each other? Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's American's God-given right". ~ Mayor Nathan, Ghostbusters

Murron  posted on  2010-10-13   13:40:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Murron (#2)

How fascinating, Murron. Where in the Bible does God or Jesus implore people to treat others like dirt?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-13   15:57:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

How fascinating, Murron. Where in the Bible does God or Jesus implore people to treat others like dirt?

It's written in the same place where I wanted to talk to you about the bible...

Murron  posted on  2010-10-13   16:02:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Murron (#4)

Well my dear, I am a firm believer in the Golden Rule, something actually embraced by Christians to an extremely deep degree.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is a good principle. It allows me to see the value of people and to care about them even when I have fought them verbally or otherwise in the past.

For example,you and I have had our spats in here, and at LP. But I like you and appreciate your good qualities as a woman and human being. It allows me not to waste time and energy on pointless and meaningless grudges.

We always have the right to defend and disagree; but we should always remember and respect the humanity and dignity of others, regardless of anything else.

And I believe that that is a notion central to at least the new Testament of the Bible.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-13   16:10:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Lets send em bacon strips, and be done with it.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-13   16:20:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#6)

According to your spiteful way of looking at this, you invite a feud with both sides free to take turns being a disrespectful offender and the ones offended.

How about if we work through disagreements without childish displays of immature disrespect? This gesture does nothing good. It even degrades the person doing it as a hater and baiter.

It is as foolish as trying to kill someone for drawing a picture of Mohammad. I want none of such foolishness.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-13   16:29:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Ferret Mike, Badeye (#7)

How about if we work through disagreements without childish displays of immature disrespect?

Translation "Can't we all just get along???

REAL-WORLD ANSWER: NO.

"What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men."
--Cool Hand Luke, 1977
--Captain, Road Prison 36:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-13   17:54:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Capitalist Eric (#20)

IT takes more then familiarity on how to format in HTML to give opinion weight.

And you feel this is so because.....

Come on Eric, please tell us why you believe this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-13   17:57:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike (#21)

IT takes more then familiarity on how to format in HTML to give opinion weight.

You attack those who would express the truth, in an attempt to promote your own nominalist philosophies.

You're a relativist, incapable of distinguishing right from wrong. You are a moral idiot. (to paraphrase Richard Weaver)

Game. Set. Match.

And you're now dismissed.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-14   11:06:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)

"You attack those who would express the truth, in an attempt to promote your own nominalist philosophies.

You're a relativist, incapable of distinguishing right from wrong. You are a moral idiot. (to paraphrase Richard Weaver)

Game. Set. Match."

And the 'truth' is everything you believe, right? Because you are perfect, and never wrong.

You are arrogant, and your hubris is quite amusing. Frankly, I bet the guy who cleans your swimming pool has more moral character than you do.

Also, I don't play tennis; but if you are ever up here and do martial arts, you are welcome to come down to the dojo and spar with me.

Perhaps if you have experience and rank in you chosen martial art you can win for real. I'm pretty good, but certainly not the best one down there.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-14   17:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

And the 'truth' is everything you believe, right?

No. Truth can be defined as something which is observable, meaasureable and repeatable. In scientific circles, this is the basis for "science."

Because you are perfect, and never wrong.

I never said that. I do know my limitations.

You are arrogant, and your hubris is quite amusing.

Relativists often resort to this tactic, when they fail to make a convincing argument. [Women use it far more than men.]

There is a fine line, between arrogance and confidence. An arrogant person may or may not be able to back up the things they say. A confident person knows he can back up what he says. Once that level of confidence is reached, then the need to establish my 'cred' is something that I would only do, if you were someone who matters. But you don't, so I won't.

Frankly, I bet the guy who cleans your swimming pool has more moral character than you do.

He's a good guy, several 20-something sons. I wouldn't know, and frankly, I'm not interested in comparing who is the better "moral character." Even proposing such a comparison is morally repugnant. But, having no moral core yourself, you miss such distinctions.

Also, I don't play tennis;

It was a metaphor. Another distinction lost on you.

but if you are ever up here and do martial arts, you are welcome to come down to the dojo and spar with me. Perhaps if you have experience and rank in you chosen martial art you can win for real. I'm pretty good, but certainly not the best one down there.

Agent Smith: [to Neo] Still using all the muscles except the one that matters?

I don't have time to squander, playing HTH. You keep your belts and your dojo and your ego-trip bullshit. All that stuff won't help you, because you're empty of what matters inside.

Pity.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2010-10-14   18:00:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#52. To: Capitalist Eric (#50)

"No. Truth can be defined as something which is observable, meaasureable and repeatable. In scientific circles, this is the basis for "science."

I am quite aware with the scientific method. And I am well aware of the propensity of the right to avoid using objective means to acertain the answer to particular questions or truth.

I am skilled enough to be quite effective locally doing political work. I can't go into this election as to what I am doing and have done until it is over, but an example of what I have done is how I blew the whistle on the fraud in Republican attempts to get Nader on the ballot when Oregon was one of five swing states in the Kerry/Bush election.

It is a good example, as Michael McCarthy is cited as the one who sparked the investigation that scuddled this Machavellian ploy when I spoke at the announcement of the investigation in Portland at the SEIU Union HQ.

Interestingly enough, this is a tactic Repugs are now repeating in Arizona and elsewhere as they have searched for and enabled Green canidates to run to try to split the plerality of the vote in this and other states.

"Relativists often resort to this tactic, when they fail to make a convincing argument. [Women use it far more than men.]"

Well, it was merely an observation. And I suppose much like a woman I was probing to see how tempermentally volital you might be. I know when I talked to you at LP using the Cornflake Girl returning bannee account, you were quote the bombastic rogue as I recall.

"He's a good guy, several 20-something sons. I wouldn't know, and frankly, I'm not interested in comparing who is the better "moral character." Even proposing such a comparison is morally repugnant. But, having no moral core yourself, you miss such distinctions."

I have quote a good moral core. I grew up the oldest of six kids and dealt with a toxic alcoholic and protected my siblings, and have never fallen victim to any drug abuse myself. In fact I don't drink, or have ever smoked tobacco.

I am also concerned about a friend in LA who is a really nice person and am selling a very sound and clean van to him for a dollar to avoid the gift tax. That is not something one does if they are sociopathic about life. ;-)

I was curious again to see if this invitation to blow your top would be accepted by you, and iot wasn't. Which speaks well of you.

"It was a metaphor. Another distinction lost on you."

You would like to think so, but I assure you, I caught that. ;-D

"Agent Smith: [to Neo] Still using all the muscles except the one that matters?"

Heehee, that reminds me of your parting words at LP. They seemed a paraphrase of this: Agent Smith: "I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-14 18:37:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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