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Title: Portland police panel finds Capt. Mark Kruger brought "discredit and disgrace" upon the city by erecting a memorial to Nazi soldiers
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the Oregonian
URL Source: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/ ... and_police_panel_finds_ca.html
Published: Oct 11, 2010
Author: Maxine Bernstein, The Oregonian
Post Date: 2010-10-11 10:15:19 by Ferret Mike
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For years, past police chiefs and city attorneys have vigorously fended off critics who called Portland police Capt. Mark Kruger a "Nazi sympathizer." They said he was simply a history buff who collected military memorabilia and had belonged to a World War II reenactment club. But now, a Portland commander and a Portland Police Performance Review Board have found Kruger brought "discredit and disgrace upon the Bureau and the City," by building a public tribute to five Nazi-era German soldiers at a city park while employed by the police bureau. During the course of the police investigation, Internal Affairs investigator Mike Barkley learned the city attorney's office had stashed away the plaques in a litigation file for at least six years. But the city had never initiated an investigation into what they were for or why Kruger put them up until the city got pressure from Robert Seaver, a former friend of Kruger's who dogged city officials with explosive e-mails, interviews with the media and an embarrassing YouTube video featuring Kruger posing in German uniforms. Former police Commissioner Dan Saltzman, who said he was alarmed there hadn't been a prior in-depth inquiry, last October called for an internal investigation of Kruger. Seaver filed a formal complaint with the Independent Police Review Division the next month. Both prompted the Police Bureau's first, wide-ranging internal investigation of Kruger and a sustained violation. Now, a former Portland attorney who had sued the city and Kruger in federal court, and Seaver, accuse the city attorney's office of a "cover up." The police Performance Review Board found Kruger nailed "memorial plaques" of five Nazi soldiers as a shrine to a tree on the east side of Rocky Butte Park sometime between 1999 and 2001, according to a letter Internal Affairs Capt. Ed Brumfield sent to Seaver. The letter is dated Sept. 7, 2010. Kruger was a Portland officer at the time, but was not on duty when he erected the plaques. Kruger called the memorial "Ehrenbaum" or "Honor Tree." Kruger had taken the plastic plaques which were affixed to a wooden board down from Rocky Butte while he was facing federal lawsuits between 2002 and 2005 alleging excessive force during downtown anti-war protests. He gave them to the city attorney's office. "We were defending him in the litigation. The bureau was aware of it. I know the whole questions of the plaques was out there," City Attorney Linda Meng said Friday. " I know we dealt with it as part of the litigation." Yet Alan Graf, one of the plaintiff's lawyers who accused Kruger at the time of being a Nazi sympathizer who had no tolerance for any "political dissent from the left," said when he learned about the plaques while deposing Seaver, he issued a wide-ranging request for discovery, and a second chance to depose Kruger. "While being deposed, I described a memorial that I had helped Kruger to construct and place," Seaver said. "He wanted to put it where people couldn't bother it, but somewhere he could see every day." Graf sent an investigator to Rocky Butte to locate them, but he only found a bunch of screws lying in the dirt. According to federal court records and Graf, the city vigorously fought any further discovery or depositions. "Sergeant Kruger's interest in German military history and related hobbies (military reenacting and collecting military memorabilia and books on military history) are not relevant to the claim or defense of any party and no further discovery should be allowed as to these matters," deputy city attorneys William Manlove and Tracy Pool Reeve wrote in a legal memo opposing further discovery and depositions of Kruger. In 2005, the city ended up settling two of the federal civil lawsuits for $300,000; a third was thrown out. "They covered up that evidence," Graf said. "Now that I know the city attorney's office knew about these plaques, I question their ethics." Seaver, in an explosive e-mail to the mayor recently, argued that Kruger tampered with evidence during the pending civil lawsuits by taking the plaques down, and the city attorney's office "hid them and covered it all up." He urged the mayor to read Barkley's report. "This system is ripe with abuse," Seaver said. "This is very troubling and a level of corruption I did not know existed in Portland city government." Meng said she didn't know the exact date that Kruger brought the plaques into the city attorney's office, but said it was during the litigation. She declined to comment about suggestions of a cover-up. Kruger, in court records during that litigation, acknowledged he owns Nazi memorabilia and has worn German uniforms to World War II re-enactments sponsored by the Northwest Historical Association. But Kruger denied he espouses any views of the Nazi party. Now an East Precinct captain, Kruger did not return calls on Friday. A police commander and the Police Performance Review Board didn't accept Kruger's military-history defense when evaluating the recent internal affairs findings. Kruger's commander at the time, Dave Famous, wrote that he was "deeply concerned" that the plaques purported to honor SS-Obersturmfuhrer Michael Wittman, a member of the Waffen SS, and Kdr. Harald von Hirschfeld who commanded a regiment that participated in the execution of thousands of prisoners of war on the Greek island of Cephalonia in 1943. According to Internal Affairs Capt. Brumfield's September letter, Kruger confirmed Seaver's account of the plaques, but Kruger said he was "honoring the men because of their military exploits rather than their political affiliations." Yet Cmdr. Famous, noting Kruger's degree in history and extensive study of German history, found Kruger should have known that memorializing "a Waffen SS member and the commander of a battalion responsible for a large-scale massacre of prisoners of war could alarm a member of the public familiar with these historical events." The review board agreed, finding Kruger violated the bureau's directive on professional conduct. Their finding now goes to the chief for potential discipline. -- Maxine Bernstein
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#6. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Big. Fucking. Deal. Stalin and Mao are routinely celebrated throughout the Untied states, especially in our Universities, and they had mass murder down to a science. All these people should shut the fuck up about the Nazis until they start ripping the communist influence in the US. Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
"Well, the other kids are doing it" arguments to minimize embarrassment are always funny to hear and I appreciate yours'. Thanks.
Here is a statue of the greatest mass murder in the history of man, Joseph Stalin, HE MURDERED MORE THAN ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING, AND THE FUCKS IN VIRGINIA HONOR HIM WITH A STATUE. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE? Leftists are hypocrites.
Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
There seems to be a lot of that posted here lately. In fact it seems to be the default 'conservative' position.
Just pointing out liberal hypocricy, one day at a time.
Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
DON'T FUCKING YELL AT ME, BITCH!
Now I got the politesse issue addressed, is this an imported statue from the former USSR? And was it imported and cleaned and displayed for hiostorical reasons, or to actually honor this idiot? In other words, please give a link. Thanks.
BEDFORD, Va. - The National D-Day Memorial Foundation is temporarily removing a bust of Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin and three other world leaders from the Bedford memorial. The bust of Stalin was installed in June and prompted protests from veterans groups and memorial volunteers. Stalin's bust was in an area that included busts of China's Chiang Kai-shek, President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Those four are being removed and foundation officials hope to move them into another area that already has busts of three other leaders. A statement from the foundation says it wants to accomplish educational goals without detracting from the veterans recognized by the memorial. (Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.) BEDFORD, Va. - The National D-Day Memorial Foundation is temporarily removing a bust of Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin and three other world leaders from the Bedford memorial. The bust of Stalin was installed in June and prompted protests from veterans groups and memorial volunteers. Stalin's bust was in an area that included busts of China's Chiang Kai-shek, President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Those four are being removed and foundation officials hope to move them into another area that already has busts of three other leaders. A statement from the foundation says it wants to accomplish educational goals without detracting from the veterans recognized by the memorial. (Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.) So, it's been removed, and was there along with other WW II leaders primarily for educational purposes, and not to honor this genocidal idiot. Fascinating. Here is a link to the petition against displaying this bust if you want to sign it as I just did.
I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume you merely were unaware this was removed. Suffice it to say however, your hyperbole inferring being left of you politically means you go gaga over murderous genocidal maniacs was pointless and quickly debunked. Sorry about your luck, bub.
Socialist are in the DNC.
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Well,you live in the People's Republic of Portland,so when you really think about it it's not all that surprising that a Nazi could fly under the radar. The place is full of Marxists,and they are the blood brothers of Nazis.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Because it needs to be said over and over and over and over again. BTW,at first glance I thought that might be a old movie photo of Steve McQueen.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
AND it needs to be said that right up to the point where Hitler invaded the USSR,he and Stalin were bestest pals,and even had a joint defense treaty. It was Stalin that leased out a large section of Russia to the Nazi's in the 30's so the Nazi's would have a place to develop the weapons and tactics they used in WW-2. Everything was just peachy-leen between Stalin and Hitler while they were dividing up Europe,and the American left never whispered a word about Hitler being evil until he invaded the USSR. Suddenly he is Satan himself in human form. To this very day the American left are ranting and raving about what a monster Hitler was,but you never heard even the slightest complain about Stalin,even though he was a even bigger monster and had more labor camps. Where is the moral outrage of the left?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
LOL! Mike,he wasn't yelling at you,but judging from your response,it seems he WAS stepping on your toes.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
I believe the first statue of Stalin that was put up in the US was put up in a park in Portland. Ever see the movie "Reds"? The statue was put up by friends of the American doctor that Warren Beatty played that went to the Soviet Union and became close friends with and the personal physician of Stalin. He was a part of the whole Emma Goldberg group of communists. I THINK the name of the park is "Peace Park". Is there a park by this name in Portland?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Hitler learns about Rich Iott's Nazi uniform photos:
I don't like people yelling at me on line, especially in a venue with a rep for rudeness. I was more standing up for myself then expressing anger. I have a think skin politically. I don't rage out quite that easily.
Not that I know of. I'm a Eugenean anyway. I've lived in Little Beirut (Portland's nickname) but I'm from the Emerald Empire area of the bottom of the Willamette Valley.
I don't know anyone who admires that asshole. I know I hate him, always have.
But he was our buddy in WWII!!!
Nope. He never did one single thing to benefit the US. WE were HIS buddy,though. Thanks to the commie in the white house. What we SHOULD have done was let the USSR and Nazi Germany bleed each other to death before stepping in.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Yeah, after he worked in conjunction with Hitler in attacking Poland. Stalin was never anyone's friend but his own.
And the commie at 10 Downing St?
I apologize for "yelling". It wasn't meant at you, but at the morons of VA.
Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
Yeah, with a 24/7 news-cycle it's kind of hard to keep up with every story. Sorry about that.
Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554
Not a problem. Thank you for the reality check, it is appreciated.
He damn sure was no friend to the Russians,Ukrainians,or even to his Georgian countrymen. What does it say about him when you consider that HE murdered more Soviet citizens than Hitler did?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
And the commie at 10 Downing St? Unlike your idol King Franklin,Churchill was never a communist. In fact he kept trying to tell King Franklin that Stalin was not to be trusted and that communism is evil,but Roosevelt was a true believer. Churchill even objected to the invasion of Africa to open a second front that would shift Nazi troops from the eastern front because he thought (knew) that we weren't really prepared to make that move yet,but King Franklin wouldn't listen because his beloved communist system was at risk. Also,it was your commie buddies in the Labour Party that removed him from office after WW-2 ended and set England up for the economic and civil destruction she narrowly avoided when Thatcher was elected.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
That he had a lot of nerve bitching about the heartlessness of capitalism and the social stratification of the west when he made a conscious decision to but resources into economic and material growth rather then using the resources necessary to keep his own people alive. I am always upset by genocide; whether its genocide the United States has done to indigenous people, the Germans in WW II or the Soviets after that war they called 'The Great Patriotic War.' I don't quantify them as being worse or not as bad with numbers of victims as a variable. Genocide is evil period. And any genocide reduces the likelihood that it won't happen again. I guess I would say I care about keeping future genocides from happening than I do in musing which ones in the past were worse then others. Genocide is evil, period.
.. Rachel Maddows makes great political hay on the dress as a Nazi issue.
He did most of that in the 1920's when he purposely starved the Ukrainian peasants by confiscating their food and seed supply to sell to the west. As with all estimated numbers this one was most likely pulled out of somebody's ass,but I have heard as high as 20 million Ukrainians were PURPOSELY starved to death in order to break the backs of the independent farmers and establish the farm collectives. Before doing this Ukrainian farmers usually produced a surplus. After collectivization,they had something like 60 years in a row of "crop failures",and as recently as the Carter Administration they were having to buy wheat from us so they could feed their people. Your boy Jim-Mah ,being the admirer he is of communism,gave them the sweetheart deal of the century. He sold them the wheat below market prices,and then lent them the money to buy it,interest free. Kinda odd how they had the money to finance,supply,and support violent communist revolutions all over the world,and money enough to threaten us and the rest of the world with air and submarine based nuclear missiles,but not enough money to buy bread to feed their people,ain't it? Almost as odd as a sitting president lending our avowed enemy that had sworn to destroy us and our system the money to buy our wheat,and not even charge them any interest on the taxpayers dollars the worthless bastard lent our sworn enemy. What we SHOULD have done was allowed them to starve. Nothing ferments revolution like empty bellies. If we had done this the Soviet system may have collaped a couple of decades earlier than it did.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No surprise there. She is a dyke,and homos are mostly kneejerk Dim Party People that hate Republicans despite the fact that there seems to be more homo Republicans than Dims.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
So are liberals, commies, facists, socialists and Rachel Mad-cow!
I see someone needs Mama to burp him.
That's right, I hate you!!! seems to be more homo Republicans than Dims. They hate Republicans too, namely themselves.
That's right, I hate you!!! More proof you are delusional. I am a conservative,not a Republican.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Don't we Dim Party People hate conservatives too... or just Republicans?
I think you hate Republicans more. They are your direct competition from the left. But you would know more about that than me.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Oh yeah... you betcha! But you would know more about that than me. Nope, I cannot profess to know much about the flight patterns of pigs on Planet Sneaky.
It's called Planet Earth. Maybe one day mental health professionals will be able to help you discover it?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Yet Cmdr. Famous, noting Kruger's degree in history and extensive study of German history, found Kruger should have known that memorializing "a Waffen SS member and the commander of a battalion responsible for a large-scale massacre of prisoners of war could alarm a member of the public familiar with these historical events."
#7. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#6)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#8. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#9. To: Ferret Mike (#7)
Well, the other kids are doing it" arguments to minimize embarrassment are always funny to hear and I appreciate yours'. Thanks.
#10. To: Ferret Mike (#7)
"Well, the other kids are doing it" arguments to minimize embarrassment are always funny to hear and I appreciate yours'. Thanks.
#11. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#8)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#12. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#8)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#13. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#8)
D-Day Memorial removing busts of Stalin, others September 28, 2010 - 5:36pm
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#14. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#10)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#15. To: go65 (#2)
Liberals are now pro nuclear proliferation and in support fundamentalist religions that are against homosexuality.
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
The Karma running over his dogma couldn't of happened to a more deserving oinker.
#17. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#6)
All these people should shut the fuck up about the Nazis until they start ripping the communist influence in the US.
#18. To: Nebuchadnezzar, Ferrett Mike (#8)
HE MURDERED MORE THAN ANY OTHER HUMAN BEING, AND THE FUCKS IN VIRGINIA HONOR HIM WITH A STATUE.
#19. To: Ferret Mike, Nebuchadnezzar (#11)
DON'T FUCKING YELL AT ME, BITCH!
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
Now I got the politesse issue addressed, is this an imported statue from the former USSR? And was it imported and cleaned and displayed for hiostorical reasons, or to actually honor this idiot?
#21. To: sneakypete, ferret mike (#20)
Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.
#22. To: sneakypete (#19)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#23. To: sneakypete (#20)
"I THINK the name of the park is "Peace Park". Is there a park by this name in Portland?"
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#24. To: sneakypete (#18)
"Where is the moral outrage of the left?"
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#25. To: sneakypete (#18)
Where is the moral outrage of the left?
#26. To: meguro (#25)
But he was our buddy in WWII!!!
#27. To: meguro (#25)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#28. To: sneakypete (#26)
Thanks to the commie in the white house.
#29. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
I don't like people yelling at me on line, especially in a venue with a rep for rudeness. I was more standing up for myself then expressing anger. I have a think skin politically. I don't rage out quite that easily.
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
I am going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume you merely were unaware this was removed.
#31. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#29)
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#32. To: Ferret Mike (#27)
Stalin was never anyone's friend but his own.
#33. To: meguro (#28)
Thanks to the commie in the white house.
#34. To: sneakypete (#32)
"What does it say about him when you consider that HE murdered more Soviet citizens than Hitler did?"
Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.
#35. To: sneakypete (#33)
#36. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
(Edited)
or the Soviets after that war they called 'The Great Patriotic War.'
#37. To: Ferret Mike (#35)
Rachel Maddows makes great political hay on the dress as a Nazi issue
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
Genocide is evil, period.
#39. To: Ibluafartsky (#38)
#40. To: sneakypete (#37)
(Edited)
mostly kneejerk Dim Party People that hate Republicans
#41. To: meguro (#40)
mostly kneejerk Dim Party People that hate Republicans
#42. To: sneakypete (#41)
More proof you are delusional. I am a conservative,not a Republican.
#43. To: meguro (#42)
Don't we Dim Party People hate conservatives too... or just Republicans?
#44. To: sneakypete (#43)
I think you hate Republicans more. They are your direct competition from the left.
#45. To: meguro (#44)
Nope, I cannot profess to know much about the flight patterns of pigs on Planet Sneaky.
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