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Title: Nevada Senate hopeful Sharron Angle: Muslim law takes hold in Dearborn, other U.S. cities Read more: Nevada Senate hopeful Sharron Angle: Muslim law takes hold in Dearborn, other U.S. cities
Source: AP
URL Source: http://www.freep.com/article/201010 ... ing-over-Dearborn-other-cities
Published: Oct 8, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-10-08 15:44:21 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 75296
Comments: 116

LAS VEGAS — U.S. Senate candidate Sharron Angle told a crowd of supporters that the country needs to address a “militant terrorist situation” that has allowed Islamic religious law to take hold in some American cities. Her comments came at a rally of tea party supporters in the Nevada resort town of Mesquite last week after the candidate was asked about Muslims angling to take over the country, and marked the latest of several controversial remarks by the Nevada Republican.

In a recording of the rally provided to the Associated Press by the Mesquite Local News, a man is heard asking Angle : “I keep hearing about Muslims wanting to take over the United States ... on a TV program just last night, I saw that they are taking over a city in Michigan and the residents of the city, they want them out. They want them out. So, I want to hear your thoughts about that.”

Angle responds that “we’re talking about a militant terrorist situation, which I believe it isn’t a widespread thing, but it is enough that we need to address, and we have been addressing it.”

“My thoughts are these, first of all, Dearborn, Michigan, and Frankford, Texas, are on American soil, and under constitutional law. Not Sharia law. And I don’t know how that happened in the United States,” she said. “It seems to me there is something fundamentally wrong with allowing a foreign system of law to even take hold in any municipality or government situation in our United States.”

Dearborn has a thriving Muslim community. It was not immediately clear why Angle singled out Frankford, Texas, a former town that was annexed into Dallas around 1975.

Responding to the same question, she also drew comparisons between the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the Nazi Holocaust. She said the property owners behind the proposed Islamic community center near ground zero should move it in deference to the people who died there.

“There was, in Auschwitz, I think it was Auschwitz, it was at least a prisoner of war camp, where the Catholic Church owned some property and they were going to build a church there. They had every right to do it but they stepped aside and said, no, we are going to allow the Jewish people to make a monument because they lost lives,” she said. “They had a responsibility to be sensitive to what had happened there and it is exactly the same thing as 9/11. Ground zero, we have a responsibility to be sensitive to the loss of a nation, to the loss of families, to the loss of life that happened there.”

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

war  posted on  2010-10-08   15:48:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: go65 (#0)

Police in Dearborn MI Enforce Sharia Law on Christians at Muslim Event 2010

http://madisonfloridavoice.net/

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   15:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: no gnu taxes (#2)

Post the goddam article Padlock...your link is for shit...

war  posted on  2010-10-08   16:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war (#3)

http://madisonfloridavoice.net/?p=9086&cpage=1

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   16:05:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes (#2)

She's correct in her statements. Which is why she's leading Reid by 3 points, and is more than likely to beat him in 25 days.

Maybe he and tiny tommy daschle can open a joint venture together.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-08   16:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#0)

Hamtramek is a city close to Dearborn. When I grew up it was basically a Polish area. Now they broadcast the Muslim call to prayer 5 times a day.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-08   16:53:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

Shhhhh. You are inserting fact where none is desired...(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-08   16:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#6)

When I grew up it was basically a Polish area. Now they broadcast the Muslim call to prayer 5 times a day.

That's why this country desperately needs a Freedom From Religion amendment in the Constitution.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-08   17:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler, badeye, skip intro war (#6)

Hamtramek is a city close to Dearborn. When I grew up it was basically a Polish area. Now they broadcast the Muslim call to prayer 5 times a day.

Dearborn is home to Ford, and an awful lot of Muslims work at Ford, so therefore, buying a Ford indicates that you support terrorism.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   17:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: war (#3)

i guess it's enforcing Sharia law if the local authorities stop Fred Phelps or the KKK from marching without permits or permission too.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   17:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#9)

Dearborn is home to Ford, and an awful lot of Muslims work at Ford, so therefore, buying a Ford indicates that you support terrorism.

Is that why the horn on my Ford Edge honks 5 times a day?

I've been wondering about that - thanks for the heads up.

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Ignore Amos  posted on  2010-10-08   17:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ignore Amos (#11)

Is that why the horn on my Ford Edge honks 5 times a day?

and turns toward the east.

You know, one of my best friends is a Shiite Muslim who escaped from Saddam's Iraq in the 1970's with his family (his dad was a wealthy businessman, they were told to gather their things and driven to the Iranian border).

Now, he's a successful businessman who runs his own small company and employes about 13 people.

Am I supposed to believe he's a terrorist who wants to impose Sharia on me simply because he's a Muslim?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   17:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#5) (Edited)

Which is why she's leading Reid by 3 points

Actually, Rasmussen had her up by 4 in his latest poll.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   17:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes (#4)

What part of Sharia law was enforced? I see a bunch of whining bitches complaining that they can't purposefully disrupt a festival.

war  posted on  2010-10-08   18:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#14)

What part of Sharia law was enforced?

No part, but what does that matter to the wingnuts?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-08   18:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: go65 (#9)

Dearborn is home to Ford, and an awful lot of Muslims work at Ford, so therefore, buying a Ford indicates that you support terrorism.

What are you blathering about? Nothing, which is typical.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-08   18:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler (#16)

He made perfect sense. Everyone knows that Muslims are all anti-American terrorists. I highly doubt that the Muslims working at Ford are putting their salaries towards anything other than IED's and pregnant suicide bombers.

war  posted on  2010-10-08   20:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Skip Intro, war (#15)

What part of Sharia law was enforced?

No part, but what does that matter to the wingnuts?

Maybe the part about proselytizing to Muslims. Those people were doing nothing more than expressing their first amendment rights.

But you both have your head so far up leftists asses, you'd obviously never know.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   20:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#17)

I have a great friend in Portland who was a general in the Egyptian Army. He is retired and does the security for Portland Saturday Market. He treated me to a visit to Egypt. I paid my way, but got to stay with him and his family in retired officer's quarters there.

That's were I found out he had been the top General in the Egyptian Army and had made his bones in the Seven Day War when he had taken an Israeli Tank base and had defeated the returning Armor assets by firing on them and panicking them.

Some had driven into a minefield. Other tanks were taken out when they lost the thread of their formation and were easy pickings.

I liked Egypt and hope to go back sometime in the next decade, And I'm glad we have people in this country like my friend in Portland, and all the hard working Muslim immigrants who also work at the market there running some of the best food venues in the nine month outdoor craft and food event that runs Saturday and Sunday up there.


Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-08   21:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: no gnu taxes (#18) (Edited)

"Maybe" don't validate shit Padlock.

What "Sharia law" does that tape show being enforced that would make that description accurate?

I'll bet you 100 bucks right now that what was being "enforced" was a a permit for a street fair that those people were trespassing upon for the purpose of disrupting. That's the reason they were sent 5 blocks away.

war  posted on  2010-10-08   21:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jwpegler (#6)

Define "they" please. The town or the mosque?

war  posted on  2010-10-08   21:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

That's were I found out he had been the top General in the Egyptian Army and had made his bones in the Seven Day War when he had taken an Israeli Tank base and had defeated the returning Armor assets by firing on them and panicking them.

in the mid-90's I participated in an Army training exercise that included international soldiers sent here to train with our forces. The oddest thing was watching an Egyptian and Israeli hang around al weekend as if they were life-long friends.

The best thing we as Americans can do is spend some time interacting with the rest of the world. Unfortunately many would prefer we stay uninformed and afraid of those who are different from us.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   21:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: go65 (#9)

Dearborn is home to Ford, and an awful lot of Muslims work at Ford, so therefore, buying a Ford indicates that you support terrorism.

More 'Grayson' logic,huh?

(chuckle)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-09   10:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: no gnu taxes (#13)

Which is why she's leading Reid by 3 points Actually, Rasmussen had her up by 4 in his latest poll.

Careful, GO65 will claim you just made that up...and then when its confirmed, he'll claim you just 'made a lucky guess' (laughing)

I'm sooooo going to enjoy watching dingy Harry retire.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-09   10:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#20)

Maybe

was used rhetorically.

They WERE violating the 1st amendment rights of the Christians who were disturbing nothing.

But you'll never admit that, Abdul.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-09   10:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: war, bad eye (#21)

Define "they" please. The town or the mosque?

The government.

The city council had to pass an amendment to the noise ordinance to allow the mosques to do this.

These call to prayers are LOUD and they are very disruptive to families, sleeping babies, office workers, etc.

Muslims don't care about the disruptive nature of the noise, because they are required to stop what they are doing and pray 5 times a day when they hear this.

It seems to me that this is nothing more than trespassing and property owners should be able to sue the mosques and city to stop it. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-09   11:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jwpegler (#26)

They also don't care because everybody else is an 'infidel'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-09   11:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: jwpegler (#26)

The city council had to pass an amendment to the noise ordinance to allow the mosques to do this.

You're aware of the first amendment, aren't you?

Which do you believe would prevail?

A city noise ordinance that abridges religious practice or religious practice?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   12:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: no gnu taxes (#25) (Edited)

A) Their intent was not to distribute but to disturb. They make that clear at the onset. That alone obviates the religious nature of their presence there.

B) If the streets were closed by permit, and I am sure that they were, their right to trespass for the purpose of distribution of religious tracts is not paramount to the people who secured that permit and their right of association.

C) It is still a lie to claim that Sharia law is being enforced.

D) What Christian church were they representing at that fair?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   12:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#28)

You're aware of the first amendment, aren't you?

Ha Ha

You're all in favor of that when it suits, you, aren't you, Abdul.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-09   12:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: no gnu taxes (#30) (Edited)

Typical response from you. Give me an example when I have opposed it.

Thanks.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   12:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#31)

You favor free speech for liberals only. You don't think people who own a business have free speech. Even thought the constitution clearly say no nada no laws prohibiting free speech. You should start at dictionary.com and look up the word no. You don't know what "no" means.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   12:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)

You favor free speech for liberals only. You don't think people who own a business have free speech. Even thought the constitution clearly say no nada no laws prohibiting free speech. You should start at dictionary.com and look up the word no. You don't know what "no" means.

Actually I've never seen war ask for any poster's banning unlike others here who generally call themselves conservatives.

Business owners and corporate stockholders are two different entities. One of the biggest corporate stockholders in the world is CALPERS.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-09   12:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#32)

You don't think people who own a business have free speech.

Liar.

Ownership has nothing to do with speech. The day that I can invite Exxon to dinner in my home is the day i will accept the fact that a business is a person.

I don't BELIEVE that the business has a right to speech.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   12:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#31)

Typical response from you. Give me an example when I have opposed it.

#25. To: war (#20)

Maybe

was used rhetorically.

They WERE violating the 1st amendment rights of the Christians who were disturbing nothing.

But you'll never admit that, Abdul.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-09   12:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: mininggold (#33) (Edited)

One of the biggest corporate stockholders in the world is CALPERS.

They are one of the most aggressive too.

Speech and the expression of thought is a natural law proposition. The right of determination is a natural law proposition as well. Natural law applies uniquely to humans. A commercial enterprise is a contrivance of man that is not necessary to his existence and, therefore, natural law does not apply to the governance of the contrivance.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   12:50:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: no gnu taxes (#35)

They WERE violating the 1st amendment rights of the Christians who were disturbing nothing.

A) They established no foundation that they were Christians.

B) They WERE trespassing.

C) Be more precise with your language.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   12:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37)

A) They established no foundation that they were Christians.

So? The religion of sawed off heads thought they were.

B) They WERE trespassing.

Public property.

C) Be more precise with your language.

Have no idea what you mean.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-09   13:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: go65 (#0)

“My thoughts are these, first of all, Dearborn, Michigan, and Frankford, Texas, are on American soil, and under constitutional law. Not Sharia law. And I don’t know how that happened in the United States,” she said. “It seems to me there is something fundamentally wrong with allowing a foreign system of law to even take hold in any municipality or government situation in our United States.”

It seems to me that she's provided exactly zero evidence to back up what she's claiming here.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-09   13:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#34)

I don't BELIEVE that the business has a right to speech.

What does NO mean? NO LAW RESTRICTING FREE SPEECH.

Dude business don't talk so of course they don't have free speech. When you go to the drive thru at McDonalds that speaker isn't the building talking. It is an individual hooked up through a speaker. So you are right businesses don't have free speech and even if they did they can' talk. But individuals do have free speech. Even if they work for a company.

This is an example of you being dishonest and disingenious just to push your restarted agenda.

Remember any law passed that said no free speech would be a constitutional violation.

NO LAW...

Time for you to quit spinning.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   13:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: war (#37)

You don't need a permit to protest.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   13:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: A K A Stone (#40)

Again...slowly...businesses do NOT engage in speech, they engage in commerce. A business has NO rights. Any law regulating business is not constrained by the Bill of Rights.

just to push your restarted agenda.

Thanks for summing yourself up for me...

war  posted on  2010-10-09   13:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#42)

Read the constitution you fucking dumb ass. They aren't allowed to pass any laws restricting free speech. NO LAW. Address that asswipe. Buildings don't talk moron. Quit arguing stuff you know isn't true. Fucking idiot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   13:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)

You don't need a permit to protest.

Thanks.

And brushing your teeth is good for you.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   14:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#43)

Read the constitution you fucking dumb ass.

A business cannot speak.

Use common sense.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   14:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: no gnu taxes (#38)

Public property.

Does that make it immune from anti-trespass laws.

Have no idea what you mean.

MAYBE you shouldn't use words that you don't mean.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   14:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#45)

What does "no law" mean?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   14:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)

It means that there isn't a law.

What does this mean:

Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech...

And what good is it to something that cannot speak?

That campaign law did not stop any PERSON from speaking.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   14:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: war (#48)

It means that there isn't a law.

It doesn't mean there isn't a law. It means congress cannot make any law that prohibits free speech.

You're a waste of time.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   14:12:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#48)

How should they stop these "businesses" from speaking?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   14:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#50)

How should they stop these "businesses" from speaking?

Does a piece of paper really walk and talk in your world?

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-09   14:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#50)

Ovwerturn the erronious ruling granting 'personhood' to corporations.

They certainly do not deserve free speech. They have the people and capital to out yell the voters as a whole, and this is not a level playing field for a fre society to hold fair and impartial elections.


Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-09   14:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mininggold, A K A Stone, war (#51)

mininggold: "Does a piece of paper really walk and talk in your world"?

war: "I don't BELIEVE that the business has a right to speech".

I know there are other's like you, but none so visable as the two of you are today. You are a pair of the most useless, worthless, the most IGNORANT waist of skin and air I have ever seen...but like I said, there are others.

People like you are so g-damn focused on 'us against them', that you either don't know what precious gifts you have, your freedoms and liberties, or you'd go out of your way and throw them away, just to piss off someone you don't agree with on other issues.....

YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE, OR UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE, AND HOW TO USE THEM....

But that isn't even the worst of it, your kind don't want to know, you don't want to learn, and pass these things on to your future generations, you'd rather get the best of some faceless, nameless, anonymous poster than protect the future of your children. JMHO!

BILL OF RIGHTS: Amendment I

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Murron  posted on  2010-10-09   14:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: A K A Stone (#50)

How should they stop these "businesses" from speaking?

How do you stop a corn cob from playing golf?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   14:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Murron (#53)

You used a lot of words to say nothing.

I don't care if it's Teacher's United, Coal Miner's United or Citizen's United...as long as it's incorporated it's not a person and it is not protected by the Bill of Rights.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   15:01:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone (#49) (Edited)

It means congress cannot make any law that prohibits free speech.

There's a difference between an abridgment and a prohibition.

But I wouldn't expect you to understand the difference. You think Exxon and US Steel can fuck and have kids.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   15:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#52)

Mike. Congress shall make no law...

You can't stop anyone from speaking. People who own companies can speak freely too.

No one granted personhood to buildings or companies. Companies can't speak dimmy.

People who own corporations are entitled to speak in any and every manner they choose.

If that is not true then tell me how congress should stop speech.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   15:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#57)

No one is disputing that.

Speaking in the guise of a corporation is a wholly different issue.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   15:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: no gnu taxes (#38) (Edited)

So? The religion of sawed off heads thought they were.

I have no idea what that means. Are you referring to the religion that your hero, The Boy Blunder, subscribes to because of his wanting Bin Laden's head brought to him in the Oval Office?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   15:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Murron (#53)

BILL OF RIGHTS: Amendment I

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

Are you into the ethyl alcohol now? It will cause hallucinations much like your tirade. A corporation is not the human individual mentioned in the Bill of Rights even if your dreams tell you different. Giving corporations these rights dilutes the rights of real human beings but I wouldn't expect you to think this far ahead.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-09   15:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: war (#58) (Edited)

No one is disputing that.

Speaking in the guise of a corporation is a wholly different issue.

I'm amazed that anyone would argue that an entity structured such that allows it's individual owners to be free of personal responsibilitie's and legal liabilities for the failures of the entity would argue these entities should have individual rights as delineated in the BOR.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-09   16:15:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: mininggold (#61)

It was one of the more moronic decisions ever made by the SCOTUS.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   16:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: A K A Stone (#40)

This is an example of you being dishonest and disingenious [sic] just to push your restarted agenda.

Quit lying Stoner.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-09   16:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: A K A Stone (#43)

Read the constitution you fucking dumb ass.

Goldi Jr., your pantaloons are showing.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-09   16:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone (#64)

Goldi Jr., your pantaloons are showing.

So is your stupidity and ignorance, jerx.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-09   16:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Fred Mertz (#64)

...pantaloons...

Hilarious...

war  posted on  2010-10-09   16:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: mininggold (#60)

Are you into the ethyl alcohol now? It will cause hallucinations much like your tirade. A corporation is not the human individual mentioned in the Bill of Rights even if your dreams tell you different. Giving corporations these rights dilutes the rights of real human beings but I wouldn't expect you to think this far ahead.

Tell us wise one how the govt would stop people who are members of a corporation from speaking freely. Tell us o wise one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   18:52:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war (#58)

Speaking in the guise of a corporation is a wholly different issue.

So tell me how the govt should shut them up. Come on you think you know it all tell me/us.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   18:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#68)

The same way it should shut up a can of beans.

You're kind of slow, aren't you?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   19:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone (#67) (Edited)

In the Citizen's United case not one person from Citizen's United spoke and the donors were unknown.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   19:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#69)

That is not an answer. Answer the point or concede that you are defeated again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   19:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: A K A Stone (#71)

A CAN OF BEANS CAN'T TALK.

As I said...you're kind of slow.

war  posted on  2010-10-09   19:09:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: war (#72)

Answer the question please. You look stupid talking about beans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   19:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: A K A Stone, mininggold (#67) (Edited)

Tell us wise one how the govt would stop people who are members of a corporation from speaking freely. Tell us o wise one.

lmao...

What I am you ditzy bitch is a wife, retired business owner, mother and grandmother, with a whole lifetime of experiences you don't know a damn thing about, and if cheap shots is all you have, then all you've got are blanks!

Oh, and I'm a terrible speller...so fking sue me!

The 'wise one' can't, because if she did, she'd be laughed off this forum...but I can show the 'wise one' where she is WRONG...just tell me one thing stone, are we talking about the money corporations and businesses spend to influence elections?

"Allah Is An Eunuch"

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-09   19:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: A K A Stone (#57)

Corporations are not owned by people, according to the SCOTUS, they are people. They need to overturn this ruling made in the 1800s and update it to take some of the undo influence foriegn corporations have on our political system.


Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-09   20:29:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ferret Mike (#75)

overturn this ruling made in the 1800s and update it to take some of the undo influence foriegn corporations have on our political system.

Give me an example of legislation that has made people honest.

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-09   20:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: A K A Stone (#73)

A CAN OF BEANS CAN'T TALK.

As I said...you're kind of slow.

Going to the zoo tomorrow?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   21:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: A K A Stone (#73) (Edited)

BTw, you've been pinged to at least two other threads. Are you going to respond?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   21:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war, A K A Stone (#78)

Are you going to respond?

Are you going to cry, dwarf?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-09   21:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: war (#78)

So tell me how the govt should shut them up. Come on you think you know it all tell me/us.

You can't answer this simple question. war this is constitution 101 and you are flunking. Lets see if you run away again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   21:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: A K A Stone (#80)

So tell me how the govt should shut them up. Come on you think you know it all tell me/us.

So when the government arrests anti-war protesters, is it imposing Sharia?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-09   21:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: war (#77)

Going to the zoo tomorrow?

This shows you are not seriously debating. You are afraid to answer. You are looking more and more like a troll.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   21:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: go65 (#81)

no

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   21:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: A K A Stone (#80)

DELETED Strike 1

war  posted on  2010-10-09   21:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: A K A Stone, ExxonMonbil (#82)

The question was answered, "restart".

You claiming that it was not, is a lie. You didn't like the answer because it reduces your argument to the level of stupidity in which it exists.

Hey Exxon...courtesy PING dinner on me tomorrow...whaddaya say?

war  posted on  2010-10-09   21:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: All (#84)

Ban me now dick and fuck you very much...

war  posted on  2010-10-09   21:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war, All (#86)

Ban me now

It is much more fun ridiculing and laughing at you, dwarf! You're such a little bitch!

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-10-09   21:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: war (#85)

Ok lets play your asinine game. No one is saying inanimate objects can talk. (Is he really that stupid?)

The laws are based on the constitution. It was passed first. In order for the govt to stop a person from a corporation from speaking. Or someone hired by a corporation. What do they have to do to accomplish that task?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   21:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#86)

Ban me now dick and fuck you very much...

You couldn't answer the question. Your goal is not to debate but push an agenda. People have said you are a paid shill. That is probably true and why you can't answer the question. I had you checkmated.

As you wish, you have banned yourself. Have a good day.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   21:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: war (#86)

Folder: Inbox Date: October 9 9:47:32 PM From: war To: A K A Stone Subject: Re: Guatemala Syphilis Experiment Exposed – Video [ Democarts infect people with STD's ]

You're a fucking asshole, douchebag

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   21:54:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: A K A Stone (#67)

Tell us wise one how the govt would stop people who are members of a corporation from speaking freely. Tell us o wise one.

Tell us oh wise one why our FF didn't pick up on this? Many owned businesses and yet none of their businesses are on record as having voted or otherwise exersized their rights as citizens. I wonder why?

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-09   22:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: mininggold (#91)

Tell us oh wise one why our FF didn't pick up on this? Many owned businesses and yet none of their businesses are on record as having voted or otherwise exersized their rights as citizens. I wonder why?

Ok I will answer your question then you answer mine.

No businesses back then voted and no businesses today vote.

The founders didn't have to pick up on anything. They made the constitution and it says free speech period.

Your argument is irrelevant and it doesn't matter if anyone on record (you made that up anyway you haven't read every document) the constitution says no laws against free speech. Anything they would want to do would require a law. And it says "no law". So it would require a constitutional amendment.

This isn't debatable the language in the constitution is perfectly I repeat perfectly clear.

Now you may disagree and think it is wrong. But you can't say it is constitutionally incorrect and be telling the truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-09   22:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: A K A Stone (#92)

No businesses back then voted and no businesses today vote.

But the SCOTUS says they now can, so it's just a matter of time.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-09   22:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: A K A Stone (#90)

You're a fucking asshole, douchebag

ha HA!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-10   8:31:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: mininggold (#93)

But the SCOTUS says they now can, so it's just a matter of time.

What is wrong with that sentence?

Here I will tell you. You said they can now. Then you said it's just a matter of time. Self contradiction and you probably can't even see it.

So show me where it says a business can vote.

Or maybe your point is that business owners shouldn't be able to vote because they own a corporation.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-10   8:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: A K A Stone (#89)

Like I said month ago, this is what dwarf does on every board he's ever belonged to. He just can't help himself.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-10   9:32:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Badeye (#96)

I think you have been saying that for more then a month.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-10   10:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: A K A Stone (#95) (Edited)

What is wrong with that sentence?

Here I will tell you. You said they can now. Then you said it's just a matter of time. Self contradiction and you probably can't even see it.

So show me where it says a business can vote.

Or maybe your point is that business owners shouldn't be able to vote because they own a corporation

How do you know they haven't? Have you investigated every election to find out? The point of the decision is the giving of corporations the same rights as individual private citizens. Do you vote? Hint hint, it's the ultimate expression of free speech.

Or maybe you think because they are owners of a corporation(s) they should be able to vote multiple times. Like at stockholder meetings.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-10   10:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: A K A Stone (#97)

So I have...so I have.

Gotta tell ya, Stone, you have a lot of patience.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-10   10:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: A K A Stone (#97)

I think you have been saying that for more then a month.

He's very repetitive and boring which is why he's here. He would be at Sally's place if she would have him. The Bozo function seems to have the so called "conservatives" here who constantly call for others to be banned flummoxed.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-10   10:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: war (#28)

You're aware of the first amendment, aren't you?

Yes and I am also aware that Yaki Indians have a right to believe that they should eat Peyote buttons as part of their religious practice, yet the Supreme Court has struck down the notion of them having the right to actually do it.

Same thing here.

Muslims should not have a right to send their noise pollution across an entire city. It's a form of trespass.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-10   13:24:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: A K A Stone (#90)

Folder: Inbox Date: October 9 9:47:32 PM From: war To: A K A Stone Subject: Re: Guatemala Syphilis Experiment Exposed – Video [ Democarts infect people with STD's ]

"Thank you.
Thank you very much."

-----------------------------------------------------------
Liberals are now pro nuclear proliferation and in support fundamentalist religions that are against homosexuality.

WhiteSands  posted on  2010-10-10   20:01:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: jwpegler (#101)

To: war

You're aware of the first amendment, aren't you?

Chuckles.....looks like our elegantly lycra/spandex attired fraud has lost his last argument here:):)

BBBBWWWWHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAA!!!!

This flush should do it...no more clinging to the side of the bowl in temporary banning and being able to "hang dog" his way back on.

The evil racist STD growth on dwarf's left ballsack (aka fred jerx) is working his way out soon too:):)

Whatever will we DO without their snippets of well thought out disagreement/discourse?????

AHHHHHHHHHHH.....the site may just become more normal rather than emulating DU's mirrorsite (sometimes it seemed that way).

Piss on these evil bastard slug pricks:):):)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. Famous Dwarfisms : "the shorts and bibs I wear are of a carbon/lycra/nylon composition...and maaaaaannnnnn....just letting everybody know that makes my balls SWELL... #2. To: e_type_jag (#1) "I hate that you're off the plantation" 9-03-2010 Sheets Jerx .........(Why Fred???why the hate???....was it because my left Vibram sole made a lasting imprint on your face as I stepped over your constantly prone body and hopped the plantation wall .....:):)

e_type_jag  posted on  2010-10-10   20:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: mininggold (#100)

He would be at Sally's place if she would have him.

Ah, wrong again, ming.

Whats gone on in Sally's insane playbox - Storm Front Lite - is of no interest to me.

Course we know as the resident Hitler Youth leader its right up your alley.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-11   9:28:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: WhiteSands (#102)

Now this is HILARIOUS!

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-11   9:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: e_type_jag (#103)

I don't think there are many political website left for him to troll now.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-11   9:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Badeye (#106) (Edited)

I don't think there are many political website left for him to troll now.

Then the 24 dollar questions is: why do you care? And you know you would be over at LP in a hearbeat if Sally would put out the red carpet complete with bells and whistles welcoming a poster of your self admitted but still delusional 'worth'. Why there was even a 'rumor' a couple of years back some posters were letting you post under their ID's over there.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-11   11:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mininggold (#107)

Then the 24 dollar questions is: why do you care? And you know you would be over at LP in a hearbeat if Sally would put out the red carpet complete with bells and whistles welcoming a poster of your self admitted but still delusional 'worth'. Why there was even a 'rumor' a couple of years back some posters were letting you post under their ID's over there.

1. I don't really care, just find it amusing how history repeats itself.

2. Nope, I wouldn't post on Sally's Stormfront Lite if I was paid to do so.

3. Kooks have a wide variety of 'theories'. Its what makes them kooks. The fact that I've been gone from LP for years, and STILL the kooks have me in the forefront of their tiny minds is hilarious, but thats it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-11   11:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Badeye (#108)

3. Kooks have a wide variety of 'theories'. Its what makes them kooks. The fact that I've been gone from LP for years, and STILL the kooks have me in the forefront of their tiny minds is hilarious, but thats it.

And no one can say you still aren't delusional after all these years. LOLOL

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-11   11:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: mininggold (#109)

And no one can say you still aren't delusional after all these years. LOLOL

Kooks say lots of things, ming...as you demonstrate daily.

Those you appear to be referring to were convinced I was posting from the Whitehouse....(laughing).

Still cracks me up to this day.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-11   11:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Badeye (#110)

Those you appear to be referring to were convinced I was posting from the Whitehouse....(laughing).

Nope. But it's fun to get you to demonstrate your trollish grandiose qualities.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-11   11:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: mininggold (#111)

Be honest, ming.

You are very lonely person, and you're grateful when ANYONE responds to you.

Its okay.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-11   12:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Badeye (#112)

You are very lonely person, and you're grateful when ANYONE responds to you.

Its okay.

Aaaah.. I appreciate your concern but I wish there were more hours in the day.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-11   12:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: A K A Stone, war, fred mertz, meguro (#89)

As you wish, you have banned yourself. Have a good day.

Stone,

There are times when we all push each other's buttons--this happens even with people we like, and with people we don't--well we have really, really good excuses for being irritated. Why not take it down a notch? If war doesn't want to participate anymore, that's his decision and he can opt to go gently into that good night. You don't need to step in an make a final decree. The first is an exit; the second is a banishment.

Why banish? Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't make him or her a troll or a shill; it's just another person who challenges us to rethink and reexplain our positions. This is a worthy exercise.

One of the good things about your site was that, after Goldi had one-too-many of her webmaster meltdowns, people drifted here. They weren't all of the same belief about anything, but they were willing to discuss--and some were too willing to insult. Still, it became a forum for a free exchange of ideas. Would you really want a site where a poster says "Hang 'em high," and the posters respond with "I agree," "Oh, I so totally agree," and "Me and my dawg agree." Wow...now that's one interesting site. So...do you want to run an interesting site where ideas fly from various directions or do you want just one prevailing hot wind to blow?

Suzanne  posted on  2010-10-11   23:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Suzanne (#114)

One of the good things about your site was that, after Goldi had one-too-many of her webmaster meltdowns, people drifted here. They weren't all of the same belief about anything, but they were willing to discuss--and some were too willing to insult. Still, it became a forum for a free exchange of ideas. Would you really want a site where a poster says "Hang 'em high," and the posters respond with "I agree," "Oh, I so totally agree," and "Me and my dawg agree." Wow...now that's one interesting site. So...do you want to run an interesting site where ideas fly from various directions or do you want just one prevailing hot wind to blow?

well said.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-11   23:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Suzanne (#114)

The irony of it all is that A K A Goldi censored war's remarks on a thread about free speech.

War is gone on his own volition.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-12   8:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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