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Title: Analysis: Jobs report is bleak news for Democrats (The Obama, Pelosi, Reid Depression)
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_jobs___politics_analysis
Published: Oct 8, 2010
Author: Tom Raum
Post Date: 2010-10-08 13:03:35 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 5211
Comments: 27

The die is cast, and it's grim news for the Democrats. There's nothing now that Congress or President Barack Obama can do to before the November midterm elections to jolt the nation's stagnant economy.

Friday's government report — the last major economic news before the midterm elections — showed the nation continued to lose jobs last month, reinforcing the bleak reality that it probably will be years — not months — before employment returns to pre-recession levels below 6 percent.

That tightens the pressure on Democrats ahead of the Nov. 2 elections. And it also casts a dark shadow well into the 2012 election season and beyond.

"We won't see under 6 percent for five years," David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's in New York, said Friday after the Labor Department reported that 95,000 more jobs were lost in September and the unemployment rate held at 9.6 percent. "It's going to be a slow recovery."

Democrats, who now control the White House and both chambers of Congress, are sticking with a positive line: The economy is moving too slowly for anybody's comfort, but Obama and his congressional Democratic allies have laid the groundwork for future prosperity. They are blaming the downturn on the policies of Republican George W. Bush's eight-year presidency.

Republicans, meanwhile, were quick to say Friday's new jobless report only underscored the weakness of Democratic policies of big government and taxes. It represented "the final verdict on the failed policies of this White House and Democratic Congress as voters head to the polls," said GOP party chief Michael Steele.

Unemployment has now topped 9.5 percent for 14 months in a row, the longest stretch since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Congress, meanwhile, has left town until after the midterms, failing to decide what to do about wide-ranging Bush-era tax cuts that are due to expire on Jan. 1. Uncertainty over those tax cuts itself is contributing to the lack of hiring as businesses, especially small ones, attempt to figure out what their tax burdens will be next year.

Obama and Democratic leaders want to let the tax cuts expire for wealthier Americans but extend them for the middle class. Republicans and some Democrats want to extend them for everybody, arguing that this is no time for any tax hikes.

The jobless level remains high even though Washington has hurled trillions of dollars at the problem. The efforts include an $814 billion stimulus package and the $700 billion financial institution bailout. Also, the Fed has held the short-term interest rates it controls near zero for months and has flooded the nation's financial system with hundreds of billions of dollars in newly created money.

Polls show little appetite for additional spending on stimulus, and a darkening view of Obama's ability to deal with the economy. An AP-GfK poll last month showed people disapprove of his handling of the economy by a 58 percent to 42 percent margin. A new CBS poll shows approval at just 38 percent.

"Both parties are culpable" for the policies that helped lead to the worst recession since the Great Depression and for continued high levels of unemployment, said Ross Baker, a congressional scholar at Rutgers University.

"But Democrats are more vulnerable. After all, they control all the political branches of government. Inevitably, it will greatly hurt the Democrats considerably more than it will hurt the Republicans."

GOP leaders have been taunting Democrats with "where are the jobs?" after each month's disappointing jobs report.

But that refrain was first sounded by Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., before she became House speaker. As the economy was slowly coming out of the 2001 recession, she asked in an October 2003 television appearance: "Mr. President, where are the jobs?"

But that month saw 203,000 new jobs and 6 percent unemployment, notes former Bush strategist Karl Rove. "Her party would kill for such a rate today," he wrote earlier this week. "Instead, they will be killed at the polls," he added.

Private businesses did add 64,000 jobs in September, but that was the weakest showing since June. And the gain was outpaced by a wave of government layoffs, including census jobs and the largest cuts by local governments in nearly three decades.

Economists say that at least 100,000 new jobs must be created each month just to keep pace with growth in the labor market.

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#1. To: no gnu taxes, go65, Nebuchadnezzar (#0)

Friday's government report — the last major economic news before the midterm elections — showed the nation continued to lose jobs last month

CORRCTION: Friday's government report — the last major economic news before the midterm elections — showed the nation continued to lose GOVERNMENT jobs last month.

Private payrolls grew.

And none of you SMALL government mouth breathing type BOTS have explained why losing government jobs is a bad thing.

war  posted on  2010-10-08   13:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

The die is cast, and it's grim news for the Democrats. There's nothing now that Congress or President Barack Obama can do to before the November midterm elections to jolt the nation's stagnant economy.

Friday's government report — the last major economic news before the midterm elections — showed the nation continued to lose jobs last month, reinforcing the bleak reality that it probably will be years — not months — before employment returns to pre-recession levels below 6 percent.

Why is a decline in government jobs and growth in private sector jobs "bleak" news?

Isn't this what you guys have been clamoring for for the last year?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   13:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Nebuchadnezzar, hondo68, liberator, no gnu taxes, Badeye, lucysmom, sneakypete, war, skip intro, fred mertz, brian s, a k a stone (#1)

And none of you SMALL government mouth breathing type BOTS have explained why losing government jobs is a bad thing.

Crickets....


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   13:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

You can make more money on unemployment than you can going down and getting one of those jobs that is an honest job, but it doesn't pay as much. And so that's what's happened to us is that we have put in so much entitlement into our government that we really have spoiled our citizenry and said you don't want the jobs that are available.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   13:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4) (Edited)

So why would those people vote to put republicans back in office?

war  posted on  2010-10-08   13:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

So why would those people vote to put republicans back in office?

Because they'd rather loose 700k private sector jobs a month then gain 64,000?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   13:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#1)

Private payrolls grew.

By an amount not nearly enough to even keep pace with population growth.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   14:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes (#7) (Edited)

By an amount not nearly enough to even keep pace with population growth.

Putting aside the "wha...huh?" nature of that observation, we're coming out of a deep recession and employment always lags.

war  posted on  2010-10-08   14:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#8)

we're coming out of a deep recession

Yeah right. 18 months of coming out and no recovery anywhere in sight.

weak weak dollar. Inflation.

We are so fucked if we don't get rid of this Marxist Kenyan and his collaborators.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   14:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

By an amount not nearly enough to even keep pace with population growth.

But don't you think things will improve as more useless government workers lose their jobs?

Why aren't you and your fellow Conservatives cheering the fact that 159,000 useless, tax dollar sucking, government bureaucrats lost their jobs?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   14:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: no gnu taxes (#9)

Yeah right. 18 months of coming out and no recovery anywhere in sight.

So let's see - you cut off your leg and are bleeding to death, and along comes someone who stops the bleeding, but because you aren't recovering as fast as you'd like, your solution is to restart the bleeding?

Seriously?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   14:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#10)

159,000 government bureaucrats

Governments also hire construction workers, firemen, teachers, engineers, etc.

The bureaucrats probably kept their jobs.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   14:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#11)

So let's see - you cut off your leg and are bleeding to death, and along comes someone who stops the bleeding,

I guess he decided to stop the bleeding by completely cutting the leg off.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-08   14:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes (#7)

At the current pace, it will take 20 years to regain the jobs lost under Owe- bama, just read an article about it a couple of hours ago.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-08   14:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: no gnu taxes (#12)

Governments also hire construction workers, firemen, teachers, engineers, etc.

That's a bad thing tho, right?

war  posted on  2010-10-08   14:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Badeye (#14)

At the current pace, it will take 20 years to regain the jobs lost under Owe- bama, just read an article about it a couple of hours ago.

We haven't lost private sector jobs under Obama, we've gained them. Perhaps you have him confused with President Bush?

Oh wait, it's the loss of "government" jobs that have you in a bind.

Come on Badeye, you should be popping the cork today 159,000 GOVERNMENT JOBS GONE!!!


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   14:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes, war (#12)

Governments also hire construction workers, firemen, teachers, engineers, etc.

RNC Chairman Michael Steele:

Let's get this notion out of our heads that the government create jobs. Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job."

Again no gnu, you really ought to be celebrating these job numbers, after all 159,000 GOVERNMENT JOBS ARE GONE!!!!


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   14:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#16) (Edited)

To quote a near bankrupt Ohio businessman..."you're fishing in a barrel..."

war  posted on  2010-10-08   15:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18)

I remember that one ;^)

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-08   15:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Fred Mertz (#19)

'twas a brilliant Booferism indeed...

war  posted on  2010-10-08   15:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#18)

To quote a near bankrupt Ohio businessman..."you're fishing in a barrel..."

Maybe you can explain why the Conservatives are all acting as if today's jobs report is bad news? I sure can't.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   15:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#21)

And don't get them started on Medicare cuts...

war  posted on  2010-10-08   15:38:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#22)

And don't get them started on Medicare cuts...

and yet for some reason they are "blaming" Obama/Pelosi/reid for the loss of 159,000 government jobs.

I'd expect no gnu to cheer this report.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   15:40:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: go65 (#16)

At the current pace, it will take 20 years to regain the jobs lost under Owe- bama, just read an article about it a couple of hours ago.

This is a quote from an article. Don't like it, take it up with th author.

I'll be opening a brand new bottle of Crown Black in 25 days, thanks.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-08   16:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#23)

and yet for some reason they are "blaming" Obama/Pelosi/reid for the loss of 159,000 government jobs.

Its a glitch in the programing.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-08   17:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#24)

I'll be opening a brand new bottle of Crown Black in 25 days, thanks.

Enjoy it while you can, things will get worse next year, remember?


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   17:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: go65 (#26)

Enjoy it while you can, things will get worse next year, remember?

Yep, and your boy Owe-bama is going to pay the ultimate political price for it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-09   10:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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