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Title: Obama's a Lock in 2012
Source: DailyBeast
URL Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs- ... =NgjnPL&om_mid=_BMrbayB8VGxJxi
Published: Oct 7, 2010
Author: Peter Beinart Info
Post Date: 2010-10-07 19:32:13 by Brian S
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Views: 17096
Comments: 33

Sure, things look grim for the Dems this fall. But the base will rally, the economy will turn up, and the GOP will shoot itself in the foot—ensuring the president a second term.

Arnold Schwarzenegger made headlines this week by declaring that “Obama will get a second term in office,” especially if Republicans win the House. You’ve got to hand it to the grand Teuton. Even when he says something blindingly obvious, he makes news.

Of course Barack Obama is likely to be reelected. For starters, American presidents usually get reelected. In the last 75 years, incumbents have lost a grand total of three times: in 1976, 1980, and 1992. And what did Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush all have in common? They had serious primary challenges within their own party (from Ronald Reagan, Ted Kennedy, and Pat Buchanan, respectively). The last president who lost reelection without a major primary challenge was Herbert Hoover in 1932.

A president who isn’t challenged in his own party can usually count on a decent turnout from his party’s base. (If party activists aren’t alienated enough to throw up a primary challenger in the spring, you can usually drag them to the polls in the fall.) A president without a primary challenger also has the space to move to the center to neutralize political weaknesses: That’s what Reagan did in 1984, when he toned down the Cold War rhetoric that was frightening moderates; it’s what Bill Clinton did when he signed welfare reform in 1996; and it’s what George W. Bush did when he signed a prescription-drug bill in 2004.

I doubt Obama will move as sharply to the center over the next two years as did Clinton, but he can do so to neutralize key weaknesses if he wants, because there is zero prospect that he’ll be seriously challenged in the primaries. No challenger would have any chance of stealing the black vote, of course, and even among white lefties, for all their grumbling, Obama has no national rival. In 1996, Clinton was petrified about a primary challenge from Jesse Jackson. But there’s only one Democratic pol who could keep Obama up at night, and she’s safely tucked away at the State Department.

The second reason Obama will likely win reelection is, oddly, the economy. Historically, when voters evaluate a president for reelection, they judge the economy not against some abstract standard but against the economy he inherited. That’s why Franklin Roosevelt could win 48 states in 1936 with the U.S. still mired in depression, and Ronald Reagan could win 49 in 1984, even though unemployment on Election Day was still 7.5 percent. Obama doesn’t need the economy to be booming in 2012 to win reelection, he just needs voters to feel that it is better than it was when he took office and heading in the right direction. If that’s the case, and most economists seem to think it will be, Republicans won’t get very far by harping on the deficit. In 1984, you may remember, a presidential candidate told voters to ignore the nation’s nascent economic recovery and focus instead of the country’s swelling debt. His name was Walter Mondale.

Finally, Obama’s third big advantage is his opposition: the GOP. The party has had great success in mobilizing older white conservatives, who weren’t particularly fond of Obama in the first place, and in a midterm like this one, in which younger and minority voters don’t turn out, their rage will loom large. But this very short-term success is preventing the GOP from grappling with its deeper problems attracting the Hispanic and “Millennial” generation voters who tilted heavily to the Democrats in 2008 and will comprise an even larger share of the electorate in 2012. As Schwarzenegger suggests, a GOP victory this fall will likely exacerbate the problem. With the Tea Party shaping the congressional GOP, the party’s immigration views will further alienate Hispanics.

The Tea Partiers will also put pressure on the party to attack popular government spending, as the Gingrich Republicans did after 1994. It’s worth remembering how Bill Clinton clobbered Bob Dole in 1996: He tied him to Gingrich’s assault on spending on education and health care. Obama could do something similar in 2012, proving that while Americans hate government in theory, in practice they demand it, especially in bad economic times.

It’s hard to recognize it now, with the economy in the tank and Democrats running for cover, but take a step back and you can see that we’re still probably in the early stages of an era of Democratic dominance. It’s going to be a while before another Republican wins the White House, and when they do, I bet they have less in common with Sarah Palin than with Arnold himself.

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#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Obama will win in 2012 by a wide margin. I also see him as doing the role switch with Clinton and Biden, with Hillary running and winning in 2016.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-07   19:41:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

Mike you blow with the wind on your opinion sometimes.

Obama probably wont win reelection but he might. If he does it will not be by a wide margin. It will be close.

The greatest president of the 20th century Ronald Reagan won by a large margin. Mike he won 49 states. No democrat will ever do that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-07   19:44:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#7)

"The greatest president of the 20th century..."

Was Franklin D. Roosevelt, hands down. If Reagan had handled the Great Depression and WW II we would all be speaking German and Japanese, and never had an economic boom in the late 1940s,50s, and 60s.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-07   19:57:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Franklin Roosevelt was the worse. He illegally closed banks. Stole the gold. Prolonged the depression. Spit and pissed on the constitution. He was a usurper. Where is his grave I might go shit and piss on it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-07   20:04:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#14)

The banks he closed to reorganize needed to be closed to get on a sound footing, he ended the Great Depression, and the prosperity we enjoyed due to him was largely due to a redistribution of wealth back to the little guy and it lasted decades until the rich managed to steal much of it back.

He was an inspired leader, and I wish he had gotten William O. Douglas to be his VP instead of Truman as the party hacks made him settle on in 1948.

Douglas would of made a far better president then Truman did.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-07   20:11:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

The banks he closed to reorganize needed to be closed to get on a sound footing

He did it without congressional authorization. Then he amended the trading with the enemy act to include Americans. So he in essence delcared Americans Enemies of the State. He did that to steal the gold then once the gold was unlawfully taken he doubled the price of the gold. He was an asshole.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-07   20:14:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone (#21)

FDR had unprecedented support for much he did from Congress, and he did what people wanted and needed; was a strong and decisive leader who restored the economic vibrancy of this nation and healed it's spirit.

He was a great man who also was largely responsible for our great success in winning WW II so decisively. He won the presidency four times. Four times Stone.

I think that means the American People thought of him more in the way I do for a long time. He was one of out greatest leaders of all time.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-07   20:20:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

He was an ego maniac. He should have stepped down.

Why do you call a usurper who ignored the constitution a great President?

He prolonged the depression.

People back then didn't have access to the info we had.

FDR is a gold thief and destroyer of the constitution.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-07   20:23:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)

He was a great leader. He fought a horrible disease that crippled him and worked for the common good when he could of sat back and led a life of comfort and opulent ease.

You talk about me bing in the minority, well buddy; when it comes to how people feel about FDR, you are great with the crackpot opine on him; but are in the extreme minority when it comes to who agrees with you about FDR.

He will always be considered one of the great too; that won't ever change.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-07   20:32:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

Where shall we start? Here is just a brief overview...

Foreign policy: FDR: Was well aware of the threat in Europe and Japan, but chose to put his head in the sand until thousands of American lives were lost in Pearl Harbor. (This is not to say, to his credit, that he didn't EVENTUALLY do the right thing.)

Reagan: Was well aware of the threat that communism within USSR and Eastern Europe posed to the world and chose to stand up, often alone, and call evil for what it is--evil. He won the Cold War, preemptively I might add, via a "peace through strength" ideology, and thus, no nukes needed to be dropped on anyone.

Domestic Policy: FDR: Tried to emulate socialism through big-government programs and wealth redistribution with his New Deal promises. His tax hikes, aimed to help support his socialistic programs, prolonged the Great Depression rather than alleviate it. FDR erroneously THOUGHT the answer to the problem was bigger government.

Reagan: Created tremendous economic growth through middle-class tax cuts and ownership incentives and almost immediately withdrew our nation from the Jimmy-Carter-induced economic disaster. Reagan KNEW the answer to the problem was less government intrusion.

Ideology: FDR: A "New Deal" welfare state where people cannot survive without government programs and we are hopeless without them.

Reagan: A promise of hope and that we can be self-reliant. "Whatever else history may say about me when I'm gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears; to your confidence rather than your doubts. My dream is that you will travel the road ahead with Liberty's lamp guiding your steps and Opportunity's arm steadying your way." --President Ronald Reagan Source(s): Briefly: COMMON SENSE and... http://www.districtadministration.com/pu… http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/a… But I could go on....

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-07   20:49:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

Reagan: Created tremendous economic growth through middle-class tax cuts and ownership incentives and almost immediately withdrew our nation from the Jimmy-Carter-induced economic disaster. Reagan KNEW the answer to the problem was less government intrusion.

That sounds nice, but the reality is that Reagan expanded the size of government, signed the biggest tax hikes ever into law, bailed out social security, expanded tax credits for the working poor, and gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

And he added another cabinet department.

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