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Title: Panel: Gov't thwarted worst-case scenario on spill (Lies, Deciet and Obfuscation-Liberal Obama's Playbook)
Source: Yahoo News
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101006/ap_on_re_us/us_gulf_oil_spill_2
Published: Oct 6, 2010
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2010-10-06 16:12:26 by Nebuchadnezzar
Keywords: None
Views: 289
Comments: 19

Panel: Gov't thwarted worst-case scenario on spill

WASHINGTON – The White House blocked efforts by federal scientists to tell the public just how bad the Gulf oil spill could have been.

That finding comes from a panel appointed by President Barack Obama to investigate the worst offshore oil spill in history.

In documents released Wednesday, the national oil spill commission reveals that in late April or early May the White House budget office denied a request from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to make public the worst-case discharge from the blown-out well.

BP estimated the worse scenario to be a leak of 2.5 million gallons per day. The government, meanwhile, was telling the public the well was releasing 210,000 gallons per day - a figure that later grew closer to BP's figure.


Poster's Comments: Please note, the panel was appointed by Obama himself. They are the ones who found him to be part of a cover-up.

Shame on the Liberals for foisting this POS on the nation.

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#1. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#0)

How does this make the spill NOT BP fault?

war  posted on  2010-10-06   16:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

How does this make the spill NOT BP fault?

BP was being overseen by Obama's minerals department.

Obama blew this one big-time, then did his best to cover it up as his own panel has shown.

Major fuck-up on Obama's part.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-06   16:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

BP was being overseen by Obama's minerals department.

Okay.

How does this not make the spill BP's fault?

Do I need to word that differently?

war  posted on  2010-10-06   16:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#2)

Obama blew this one big-time, then did his best to cover it up as his own panel has shown.

How? By simply saying "no"?

Did they destroy documents?

Did they threaten witnesses?

Did they bribe people?

Their "best" seems kinda lame.

war  posted on  2010-10-06   16:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#0)

wait a sec, i thought Obama hated oil companies and wanted to destroy them, so why would he protect them?

Does not compute!


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   16:23:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65, Nebuchadnezzar (#5)

Nebby never met a knee he couldn't jerk....

war  posted on  2010-10-06   16:33:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#4)

How? By simply saying "no"?

Here is how they did it:

the White House budget office denied a request from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to make public the worst-case discharge from the blown-out well.

We now know definitively that the Obama White House engaged in lying. This is impeachment level conduct.

We also know that the lies slowed the response to the spill, thus making the damage to the Gulf worse than it should have.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-06   16:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#5)

wait a sec, i thought Obama hated oil companies and wanted to destroy them, so why would he protect them?

Does not compute!

Actually, his public pronouncements about big oil, and wall street 'fat cats' have been shown to be nothing but bullshit in recent weeks.

The only people making money today are those he rails against publicly, and sucks up to behind the scenes.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-06   16:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Badeye (#8)

The only people making money today are those he rails against publicly, and sucks up to behind the scenes.

Agreed. I bet the Health Insurance companies will make out like bandits when the year end reports are done.

He rips them, and they profit.

What a racket.

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-06   19:02:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#8) (Edited)

Actually, his public pronouncements about big oil, and wall street 'fat cats' have been shown to be nothing but bullshit in recent weeks.

The only people making money today are those he rails against publicly, and sucks up to behind the scenes.

You just nailed the reason for the enthusiasm gap.


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   21:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#7)

We now know definitively that the Obama White House engaged in lying. This is impeachment level conduct.

Did you learn nothing from the Clinton and Bush years?

Lying only reaches impeachment level if its under oath and about sex.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-06   22:26:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#7)

A new article was posted that gives the fulll story.

war  posted on  2010-10-07   7:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#9)

Look at the executives that benefitted from all the various bailouts. Nobody made more off of it than 'fat cat CEO's on Wallstreet'.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-07   11:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#10)

Its a part of it. The other part is the nationalization of healthcare, and at least as importantly, how that was done against the will of the clear majority. Even 1 out of 4 DEMOCRATS want it repealled in the latest polls.

Add in tripling of the deficit, the leakage from Afghanistan...and here we are.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-07   11:18:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#11)

Did you learn nothing from the Clinton and Bush years?

Lying only reaches impeachment level if its under oath and about sex.

Oh poor Lucy's mom. I guess you were too young to remember that the first article of impeachment drawn up against Nixon was "Lying to the American public".

Or did you forget that one?

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-07   23:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#15)

Oh poor Lucy's mom. I guess you were too young to remember that the first article of impeachment drawn up against Nixon was "Lying to the American public".

The first article of impeachment was "Obstruction of Justice". As despicable as lying to the American public might be, it does not rise to the level of obstruction of justice.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-08   9:44:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#16)

The first article of impeachment was "Obstruction of Justice". As despicable as lying to the American public might be, it does not rise to the level of obstruction of justice.

They based it on his comments to the American people.

Intellectual honesty isn't your strong point is it?

Clinton and Cuomo are the true bandits who lit the fuse to this economic crisis we're now in. All in the name of getting more minorities in houses: http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=12554

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-10-08   22:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Nebuchadnezzar, lucysmom (#17) (Edited)

They based it on his comments to the American people.

That was one of NINE means used to justify the impeachment.

Read the freaking thing before you comment:

---- Article One: Obstruction of Justice

In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, in that: On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-Election of the President committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence. Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his subordinates and agents in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede and obstruct investigations of such unlawful entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities. The means used to implement this course of conduct or plan have included one or more of the following:

(1) Making or causing to be made false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employes of the United States.

(2) Withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employes of the United States.

(3) Approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counseling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employes of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings.

(4) Interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force and congressional committees.

(5) Approving, condoning, and acquiescing in, the surreptitious payments of substantial sums of money for the purpose of obtaining the silence or influencing the testimony of witnesses, potential witnesses or individuals who participated in such unlawful entry and other illegal activities.

(6) Endeavoring to misuse the Central Intelligence Agency, an agency of the United States.

(7) Disseminating information received from officers of the Department of Justice of the United States to subjects of investigations conducted by lawfully authorized investigative officers and employes of the United States for the purpose of aiding and assisting such subjects in their attempts to avoid criminal liability.

(8) Making false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation has been conducted with respect to allegation of misconduct on the part of personnel of the Executive Branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-Election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct; or

(9) Endeavoring to cause prospective defendants, and individuals duly tried and convicted, to expect favored treatment and consideration in return for their silence or false testimony, or rewarding individuals for their silence or false testimony.

In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office.


Reality check - Government spending is down, the deficit is down, government employment is down, and private hiring is up.

go65  posted on  2010-10-08   23:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65, Nebuchadnezzar (#18)

That was one of NINE means used to justify the impeachment.

Only one of nine under the heading of "Obstruction of Justice", there were two more articles.

Bush did know what he was doing when he refused to answer questions under oath.

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-09   0:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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