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Title: Rasmussen: Generic Congressional Ballot: Republicans 45%, Democrats 42%
Source: Rasmussen
URL Source: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub ... a/generic_congressional_ballot
Published: Oct 5, 2010
Author: Rasmussen
Post Date: 2010-10-05 09:25:32 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 8756
Comments: 41

Republican candidates now hold a three-point lead over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot for the week ending Sunday, October 3, 2010. This is the smallest gap between parties in roughly a year.

Forty-five percent (45%) of respondents say they would vote for their district’s Republican congressional candidate, while 42% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent. This is the first time during 2010 that the GOP edge has fallen below five points.

Still, while the margin has varied somewhat from week-to-week, Republicans have been consistently ahead in the Generic Ballot for over a year, and it has run as high as 12 points. When Barack Obama first took office as president of the United States, the Democrats enjoyed a seven-point lead on the Generic Ballot.

Among voters not affiliated with either major party, Republicans hold an 18-point lead.

Results for this survey are compiled on a full-week basis, and crosstabs for full-week results and generic ballot trends are available for Platinum Members only.

Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, notes that “voters are ready to deliver the same message in 2010 that they delivered in 2006 and 2008 as they prepare to vote against the party in power for the third straight election. These results suggest a fundamental rejection of both political parties.”

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#2. To: Badeye (#1)

You've lost the middle, you never had the Right. And Owe-bama choses to go further Left in a nation thats 'center Right' on every issue you can name.

You are ranting again, Obama hit a 50% approval rating in Rasmussen earlier this week, as of today he's at a 48% approval rating, which is seven points better than his low of 41% back on September 9th. His overall approve/disapprove continues to mirror that of Ronald Reagan in at the same point of his presidency.


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-10-05   9:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#2)

I predicted earlier this year that REAL indies were going to gravitate away from the GOP - I wasn't all that sold that they were going to support the GOP in any show of mass support. 180 degrees in one election was just too much to accept.

war  posted on  2010-10-05   10:00:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: war, badeye (#3)

did you see the new ABC poll showing that those saying they would vote for a tea party candidate has dropped from 30% in July to 18% now?

There's a price to pay for taking nutty conspiracy theorists into the mainstream of the GOP.


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-10-05   10:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#2)

You are ranting again

Ah...no. I'm noting the fact a 'generic ballot' at this point is meaningless. And his job approval rating is what matters.

And hiding behind Reagan is even more laughable than hiding behind Bush.

But you really don't have any other options. Its not like you can promote him based on what he's done the past 22 months...(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-05   10:11:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

did you see the new ABC poll

As if I would waste time watching ABC's laughable 'news' programs....(eyes rolling)

I will flip to ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC election night just to hear the lamentations of the on air talent, however.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-05   10:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Badeye (#5)

Ah...no. I'm noting the fact a 'generic ballot' at this point is meaningless. And his job approval rating is what matters.

OK. He gained a point in Gallup last month, and he's up to 48% in Rasmussen, his "strongly disapprove" rating is down to its lowest point since early September.


And the Conservative plan to create jobs is......?????

go65  posted on  2010-10-05   10:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: go65 (#7)

(chuckle)

Welcome back to reality. You've been missed.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-05   10:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#7)

Has anyone here claimed that he won't be voting for republicans this year yet?

[snicker]

war  posted on  2010-10-05   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: go65, badeye (#0)

I keep telling Badeye that the GOP is going to under-perform in November.

Given the condition of the economy, the GOP should pickup 55+ seats in the House. I'm still betting it will be between 35 and 45.

They are not going to win the Senate seats in either California or Washington. Nor will they win Senate seats in Delaware or Connecticut. The GOP net pick up in the Senate will be 6 or 7.

There just isn't enough good leadership in the GOP to turn our anger into a blowout.

If the GOP doesn't win the House, the loonies in the administration will claim a mandate and we'll see more destructive policies roll out.


God bless Joe Sobran, who was a true American hero. May he rest in peace.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-05   15:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: jwpegler (#10)

We'll see. I think the data shows my view is the most likely to come about, in comparision to yours.

Thats why they play the games, as the saying goes.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-05   15:38:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#3)

I predicted earlier this year that REAL indies were going to gravitate away from the GOP - I wasn't all that sold that they were going to support the GOP in any show of mass support. 180 degrees in one election was just too much to accept.

I could believe it, and I think the republicans will make gains. But not with the campaign the republicans are running. The indies aren't going to be swayed by the top marginal tax rate, and government spending.

Rhino  posted on  2010-10-05   16:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rhino (#12) (Edited)

I believe that they are going to make gains as well...I think there is a good chance that we could have a 50/50 senate. And the House could be close to a tie as well.

war  posted on  2010-10-05   21:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#11)

Here's the sad part: if the GOP fails to gain control of the House, the establishment is going to blame the Tea Party, when the blame should squarely fall on Boehner and McConnell. Just watch.


Predictions: The GOP will pickup 35 to 45 House seats, 6 to 7 Senate seats, and 7 to 8 governorships

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-05   21:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler, badeye, war (#10) (Edited)

They are not going to win the Senate seats in either California or Washington. Nor will they win Senate seats in Delaware or Connecticut. The GOP net pick up in the Senate will be 6 or 7.

I keep looking at 1982 as a comparison point, Reagan's poll numbers then were virtually identical to Obama's, the economy wasn't doing well. The GOP lost 27 seats in the House, but actually gained a seat in the Senate. I'd expect the Democrats to do worse simply due to the law of averages, they have made huge gains since 2006, eventually they will have to lose some.

But as I've said before, I think badeye and many others are making the mistake that people suddenly love Republicans or support the idiocy of the tea party. If the GOP comes in and starts attacking Medicare, social security, the minimum wage, the unemployed, while it promotes extending tax cuts to income above $250k and restoring the ability of insurance companies to revoke health care policies after you get sick, they will find their gains in 2010 reversed quickly in 2012 as Obama gets reelected.

Note that the two presidents who did the worst in their first mid-terms in the last 30 years are Reagan and Clinton.


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-05   22:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#14)

f the GOP fails to gain control of the House, the establishment is going to blame the Tea Party, when the blame should squarely fall on Boehner and McConnell.

Who gets the blame if they do get control of the House and screw up as badly as they did the last time they had it?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-05   22:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Skip Intro (#16)

Obama.

war  posted on  2010-10-06   8:09:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#14)

There is nothing to support the GOP not regaining control of the House, except for the one poll that over sampled Democrats that I've seen this week.

And I still don't see anything supporting your viewpoint on Boehner. McConnell? yep, we agree about him.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-06   9:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: go65 (#15)

Reagan didn't have record unemployment, foreclosures, bankruptcy's. He didn't force down the throats of voters legislation they did not support.

The 'idiocy of the Tea Party'? What, exactly is 'idiotic' about wanting the rein in the unsustainable spending by the Federal government? Whats 'idiotic' about wanting a fair tax policy? Its this kind of supportable slur thats cost the current Congress and Administration the vaunted 'middle' meaning Independents, who have fled in droves from the guy they elected, Owe-bama.

Reagan won 49 states in 1984. Nobody in their wildest dreams believes Owe-bama can come close, given his penchat for bashing Christians that make up 80% of the total population, the double digit 'real' unemployment, and the record number of Americans out of work AND on foodstamps.

There won't be a third party candidate taken serious in 2012, so that debunks the Clinton analogy, although remembering on Clinton's best day politically he couldn't get 50% of the total votes cast is useful (chuckle).

Finally, knock off the Alan Grayson bullshit. I've never once indicated 'the people are in love with Republicans'. You can't cite a post of mine that comes remotely close to such a thing.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-06   9:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye (#19)

Reagan didn't have record unemployment, foreclosures, bankruptcy's. He didn't force down the throats of voters legislation they did not support.

Well that certainly explains why he backed away from his policies of the first two years and went on to enact the biggest tax hikes ever, as well as amnesty for illegal immigrants and a bailout of Social Security.

Reagan won 49 states in 1984. Nobody in their wildest dreams believes Owe-bama can come close, given his penchat for bashing Christians that make up 80% of the total population, the double digit 'real' unemployment, and the record number of Americans out of work AND on foodstamps.

That of course depends on who the GOP runs against him. If it's Palin, he might win 40 states.

here won't be a third party candidate taken serious in 2012, so that debunks the Clinton analogy, although remembering on Clinton's best day politically he couldn't get 50% of the total votes cast is useful (chuckle).

Actually, there has been quite a bit of speculation about the potential of a 3rd party challenge if the GOP nominates a nut like Palin. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/03/opinion/03friedman.html

inally, knock off the Alan Grayson bullshit. I've never once indicated 'the people are in love with Republicans'. You can't cite a post of mine that comes remotely close to such a thing.

Uh huh....


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   9:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: go65 (#20)

Reagan didn't have record unemployment, foreclosures, bankruptcy's.

Actually, for the time, he did.

Not that facts matter to some.

war  posted on  2010-10-06   9:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: go65 (#20)

inally, knock off the Alan Grayson bullshit. I've never once indicated 'the people are in love with Republicans'. You can't cite a post of mine that comes remotely close to such a thing. Uh huh....

As I noted, you can't.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-06   10:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Skip Intro (#16)

Who gets the blame if they do get control of the House and screw up as badly as they did the last time they had it?

Their "leaders" -- Boehner and McConnell.


Predictions: The GOP will pickup 35 to 45 House seats, 6 to 7 Senate seats, and 7 to 8 governorships

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   15:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#18)

There is nothing to support the GOP not regaining control of the House

Of course there is. The GOP are widely unpopular -- more unpopular than Obama and only slightly less unpopular than the Democrat Congress. Every poll demonstrates this.


Predictions: The GOP will pickup 35 to 45 House seats, 6 to 7 Senate seats, and 7 to 8 governorships

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   15:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jwpegler (#24)

I really would not be surprised if we come out of this with both chambers in a near tie...

war  posted on  2010-10-06   15:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#24)

Of course there is. The GOP are widely unpopular -- more unpopular than Obama and only slightly less unpopular than the Democrat Congress. Every poll demonstrates this.

Ummm, yeah, but every poll also agrees the GOP is going to retake the House.

Thats why there is no 'support' to your statement...even this...defense(?) doesn't hold up.

Unless you only read pieces of the polls you are citing.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-06   16:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Badeye (#26)

yeah, but every poll also agrees the GOP is going to retake the House.

Probably. They need 39 seats. I'm predicting between 35 and 45.

Today, I heard two other "predictions" in the media. One was that the GOP could pick up 86 seats and the other that the GOP could pick up more than 100 seats (like 1894).

YES, people (including me) are this angry at the numskull Democrats.

Here's the big caveat --- almost no one trusts the GOP. Why? Because they are a bunch of liars. They claim to be for small government, but when they finally got their first chance to control it all since before the Great Depression, they f'd it up. They listened to Karl Rove, abandoned all of their stated principals, and tried to outspend the Democrats.

Here's an interesting stat: the lowlely Libertarian Party is poised to have a banner year. They have several Senate candidates in close races that are polling above 5%. When has the LP ever polled 5% in multiple Senate races? Never.

Given Boehner's lame "pledge", the Libertarians could pick up a whole bunch of last minute support from people who just can't bring themselves to vote for the stinking GOP again.

OH YES -- Tom Tanceredo (Constitution Party) is WAY ahead of the GOP candidate in the Colorado Senate race. He is surging in the polls and only 8 points behind the Democrat. The GOP loser is a very distant third.


Predictions: The GOP will pickup 35 to 45 House seats, 6 to 7 Senate seats, and 7 to 8 governorships

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   17:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#25) (Edited)

I really would not be surprised if we come out of this with both chambers in a near tie...

I agree. That is a very likely outcome.

However, the GOP will dominate the State Governorships after the election (30 seats to 20 at the very least). The GOP will also pick up about 300 state legislative seats).

On the national level, the big question is: will Obama be smart like Clinton or will he continue to pursue an academic leftist agenda?

I have no idea, but I'm betting on the latter.


Predictions: The GOP will pickup 35 to 45 House seats, 6 to 7 Senate seats, and 7 to 8 governorships

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   18:01:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: go65 (#15)

If the GOP comes in and starts attacking Medicare, social security, the minimum wage

If they did this, they would see a huge upsurge in popularity among their base and also among "moderate" voters, who are mostly fiscal conservatives.

The only reason the GOP are still almost as unpopular as the Democrats is that the GOP are filled with lying cowards.

Rand Paul is telling the truth. Let's see how he does in 4 weeks.


Predictions: The GOP will pickup 35 to 45 House seats, 6 to 7 Senate seats, and 7 to 8 governorships

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   18:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jwpegler (#29)

If they did this, they would see a huge upsurge in popularity among their base and also among "moderate" voters, who are mostly fiscal conservatives.

Can I remind you of the fact that the most radical GOP'rs - Paul, Angle, O'Donnell, Miller, etc. are the ones struggling the most in general election polling. In all of those races, the mainstream GOP candidate they beat in the primary faced a much easier path to victory in the general.


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   21:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: jwpegler (#28)

On the national level, the big question is: will Obama be smart like Clinton or will he continue to pursue an academic leftist agenda?

How about he does what Reagan did - embrace amnesty, raise taxes to reduce the deficit, and reform social security to extend its life?


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   21:09:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: go65 (#30) (Edited)

Can I remind you of the fact that the most radical GOP'rs - Paul, Angle, O'Donnell, Miller, etc. are the ones struggling the most in general election polling. In all of those races, the mainstream GOP candidate they beat in the primary faced a much easier path to victory in the general.

Apples, oranges, and pears...

Paul and Miller are free market conservatives who are going to win their races. The folks are ready for an honest accounting of where we are and where we need to go.

Angle is religious fanatic, but I'll bet that she will still win even in the libertarian west. That will send a huge message -- a state that allows gambling and prostitution will send Angel to the Senate NOT because of her religious views but BECAUSE of her economic views.

O'Donnell is a complete loser. She is the Tea Party lemon this year. All movements have them. No big deal.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   21:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: go65 (#31) (Edited)

How about he does what Reagan did - embrace amnesty, raise taxes to reduce the deficit, and reform social security to extend its life?

Your history is a little faulty.

Carter "reformed" social security (by raising taxes). The tax increases started under Reagan. Carter's "reforms" were not a solution. They only postponed the day of reckoning, which came this year. Social Security is now paying out more than it is taking in. The problem will only get worse as the baby boomers continue to retire.

Reagan cut marginal tax rates by 30% across the board and then came back and closed loopholes. He also dramatically cut the capital gains tax. I support a radically simpler tax system with lower marginal rates. Reagan (and Bill Bradley, Jerry Brown, Dick Armey, etc. were right).

I am closer to Reagan on immigration than the current "right". Yes, we need to do something about illegal immigration (by building a big wall and staffing it with people who have guns). But it is completely unrealistic to deport all of the current illegals who are already here. We need another approach to deal with the people who are already here.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   21:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: jwpegler (#33)

Reagan cut marginal tax rates by 30% across the board and then came back and closed loopholes. He also dramatically cut the capital gains tax. I support a radically simpler tax system with lower marginal rates. Reagan (and Bill Bradley, Jerry Brown, Dick Armey, etc. were right).

Reagan passed the biggest tax hikes in history and raised corporate income taxes by hundreds of billions of dollars. He also bailed out social security.

I am closer to Reagan on immigration than the current "right". Yes, we need to do something about illegal immigration (by building a big wall and staffing it with people who have guns). But it is completely unrealistic to deport all of the current illegals who are already here. We need another approach to deal with the people who are already here.

I agree, but that sort of thinking gets one branded a "RINO" these days.


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   21:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: go65 (#34)

Reagan passed the biggest tax hikes in history

You can repeat this all you want but it's just not true.

Reagan cut marginal tax rates by 30% in 1981.

In 1986, Bill Bradley (a Democrat) sponsored a tax reform act which further cut the top marginal rate from 50% to 28%, while eliminating many deductions. Reagan signed it. The bill was designed to be revenue neutral.

Eliminating dedications is not necessarily a "tax increase".


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-06   21:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: jwpegler (#35)

You can repeat this all you want but it's just not true.

Legislated Tax Changes by Ronald Reagan as of 1988

 
Tax Cuts
Billions of Dollars
Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981
-264.4
Interest and Dividends Tax Compliance Act of 1983
-1.8
Federal Employees’ Retirement System Act of 1986
-0.2
Tax Reform Act of 1986
-8.9
Total cumulative tax cuts
-275.3
 
Tax Increases
Billions of Dollars
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982
+57.3
Highway Revenue Act of 1982
+4.9
Social Security Amendments of 1983
+24.6
Railroad Retirement Revenue Act of 1983
+1.2
Deficit Reduction Act of 1984
+25.4
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
+2.9
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
+2.4
Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986
+0.6
Continuing Resolution for 1987
+2.8
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987
+8.6
Continuing Resolution for 1988
+2.0
Total cumulative tax increases
+132.7
 Source: Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 1990 (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1989), p. 4-4


Reality check - Obama is more popular than the tea party

go65  posted on  2010-10-06   22:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: jwpegler (#35) (Edited)

Eliminating dedications is not necessarily a "tax increase".

It certainly was for me back then. I was grossing in the mid-40's in that period as it was enacted and my AGI and thus my tax bill went up every year.

war  posted on  2010-10-07   7:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jwpegler (#28)

I agree. That is a very likely outcome.

I usually look at the polls on RCP. My old college advisor runs a polling firm now in PA. There is a disconnect between the national pollsters doing local races and local pollsters doing local races...e.g. PA's race is within MOE according to most locals...nationals have Toomey up 7.

He "believes", without any supporting data, that people "distrust" national polls and are more willing to lie to them.

war  posted on  2010-10-07   8:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: jwpegler (#27)

I think the number will be 70 plus seats in the House. Its worth noting the Tea Party is as much about purging the Rove mindset within the GOP as it is about fiscal sanity and reining in the expansion of the Federal Government.

As for Boehner...we disagree. If he demonstrates as Speaker what you allege, I'll be voting to fire him and the Republicans come 2012.

They KNOW THIS. They know why they were fired in 2006. And those in leadership positions TODAY, in the year 2010 are not the same as the 2006 leaders, as in Majority Leader, and Speaker.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-07   11:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Badeye (#39)

They KNOW THIS.

Some of them know this and some of them still don't get it.


Rule of law: B students wind up working for C students. A students teach.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-07   12:09:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: jwpegler (#40)

Quite a few are stuck on stupid, no denying it.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-07   13:06:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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