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Title: Tea Party vs. War Party?
Source: TownHall
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/PatB ... 0/10/01/tea_party_vs_war_party
Published: Oct 3, 2010
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2010-10-03 18:16:36 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 38535
Comments: 59

"We're all on the same page until the polls close Nov. 2," Richard Viguerie, the longtime conservative strategist who has allied with the Tea Party, told The New York Times. After that, "a massive, almost historic battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party begins."

Indeed, such a battle seems unavoidable. Consider.

The great issue uniting and motivating the Republican Party and Tea Party is the deficit-debt crisis, a national debt nearing 100 percent of gross domestic product and a deficit of 10 percent of GDP.

As to the cause of the deficit that could precipitate a run on the dollar, double-digit inflation, even a default, the Tea Party and GOP also agree -- federal spending that consumes 25 percent of GDP.

Both are also on the same page in their opposition to closing the deficit with new or higher taxes.

This means spending must be slashed. But to cut the budget to 20 percent of GDP, where it was before George W. Bush and Barack Obama, requires spending cuts of an astronomical $700 billion a year. Even then, the 2011 deficit would be $700 billion.

As interest on the debt must be paid, or we default, there are only two places you can find that kind of money. The first is the major entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security -- and social spending for education, veterans benefits, earned income tax credits and unemployment compensation.

But a Democratic Party, brutalized and bled on Nov. 2, returning to Capitol Hill with its moderate wing annihilated, is unlikely to collude with a resurgent Republican right and Tea Party caucus in hacking away at social programs that are the Democratic Party's pride and joy, and the reason that party exists.

Which leaves one place where a bipartisan majority may be found for major spending cuts: defense and the empire, the warfare state.

The "agonizing reappraisal" of commitments abroad that John Foster Dulles predicted half a century ago may be at hand.

And here is where the Tea Party and War Party split the blanket.

If Obama makes good on his pledge of full withdrawal of the 50,000 U.S. troops in Iraq by the end of 2011, will the Tea Party and Republican right oppose that withdrawal and join the War Party in demanding that we retain an army in Iraq indefinitely?

If Obama refuses to go to war against Iran, a war that would send oil prices soaring, close the Persian Gulf and be a disaster for the global economy, will the Tea Party join the War Party in denouncing Obama for not launching a third war in the Near East?

If Obama begins his promised withdrawal from Afghanistan next July, will Tea Party Republicans join the War Party and the generals in accusing Obama of inviting an American defeat? Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#12. To: Brian S (#0)

The great issue uniting and motivating the Republican Party and Tea Party is the deficit-debt crisis, a national debt nearing 100 percent of gross domestic product and a deficit of 10 percent of GDP.

No, it's hatred for Obama, that's it.

go65  posted on  2010-10-03   22:11:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#12)

"...it's hatred for Obama, that's it."

Hogwash, Obamabot...Barry Hussein's a friggin' puppet, the anger uniting the TeaPartyin' ReaganConservatives goes WAAAY beyond disliking the KrazyKenyanKracker, my friend. Yer knee-jerk Leftist reaction betrays yer stubborn defense of the indefensible BigGuv'ment status quo. Do YOU receive yer substinance from the Federal Leviathan? You post like someone who's on the dole...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-10-03   22:24:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#14)

Hogwash, Obamabot...Barry Hussein's a friggin' puppet, the anger uniting the TeaPartyin' ReaganConservatives goes WAAAY beyond disliking the KrazyKenyanKracker, my friend. Yer knee-jerk Leftist reaction betrays yer stubborn defense of the indefensible BigGuv'ment status quo. Do YOU receive yer substinance from the Federal Leviathan? You post like someone who's on the dole...MUD

They weren't pissed under Bush. What happened between then and when the Tea Parties started?

Rhino  posted on  2010-10-04   0:21:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rhino (#15) (Edited)

They weren't pissed under Bush.

Many of us were extremely pissed at Bush. Here's a sample blog I wrote in Oct 2008. I have many more like it going back a couple of years:

George Bush: Socialist Nincompoop

This morning as I was getting ready for work, I watched in horror as George Bush explained how the government “investing” in banks is somehow not socialism.

There are three important points to make here:

First Bush claimed that this was only temporary and that at some point the future, government would sell their “investments” and all would be back to normal . Sorry Georgie but to paraphrase Ronald Reagan: the closest thing we’ll ever see to eternal life on earth is a government program. These “investments” will only grow in time to the point where the government will eventually have nationalized the entire financial system.

Second, Bush claimed that these “investments” are part of a well thought out plan. What a joke. A few weeks ago, the Bush administration was arguing against a similar British plan. Here’s the problem: the stock market had its worst week ever after Bush signed the $700 billion bailout bill that the administration claimed would calm people’s fears. Now they are just twisting in the wind. There isn't any plan. They are making things up as they go along, and spending your money in the process.

Third, by definition government ownership is socialism.

I’ll say it again, the Bush family has ruined the Republican Party that Reagan built. Now they are ruining the country. Enough is enough. I’m not the only one who understands this. Christopher Buckley, who is the son of the late William F. Buckley, the founder of the modern conservative movement, has now also abandoned the GOP, resigned from the magazine his father founded, and endorsed Obama. This is what he said:

While I regret this development, I am not in mourning, for I no longer have any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands for. Eight years of “conservative” government has brought us a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance. As a sideshow, it brought us a truly obscene attempt at federal intervention in the Terry Schiavo case.

So, to paraphrase a real conservative, Ronald Reagan: I haven’t left the Republican Party. It left me.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-04   14:58:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: jwpegler (#32)

"I no longer have any clear idea what, exactly, the modern conservative movement stands for. Eight years of “conservative” government has brought us a doubled national debt, ruinous expansion of entitlement programs, bridges to nowhere, poster boy Jack Abramoff and an ill-premised, ill-waged war conducted by politicians of breathtaking arrogance."

Dubyuh was NO CONSERVATIVE and we learned that having a GOP Majority in Congress ain't anything like having a "conservative majority"..."Conservative Government" respects and defends the supremacy of the U.S. Constitution and the limits imposed upon the Federal Leviathan therein...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-10-04   15:13:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#36. To: Mudboy Slim (#33)

Dubyuh was NO CONSERVATIVE

No shit. I knew it 2000 and I didn't vote for him.

Go back to 2000 and look at how many HAILED Bush as a conservative who would be more like Reagan than pappy Bush.

After Bush got into office, he proceeding to spend money like president since LBJ. His Republican majorities in the House and Senate went along with him.

This is why we have Obama today -- because the GOP blew it.

jwpegler  posted on  2010-10-04 15:19:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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