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Title: Tea Party vs. War Party?
Source: TownHall
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/PatB ... 0/10/01/tea_party_vs_war_party
Published: Oct 3, 2010
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2010-10-03 18:16:36 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 38606
Comments: 59

"We're all on the same page until the polls close Nov. 2," Richard Viguerie, the longtime conservative strategist who has allied with the Tea Party, told The New York Times. After that, "a massive, almost historic battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party begins."

Indeed, such a battle seems unavoidable. Consider.

The great issue uniting and motivating the Republican Party and Tea Party is the deficit-debt crisis, a national debt nearing 100 percent of gross domestic product and a deficit of 10 percent of GDP.

As to the cause of the deficit that could precipitate a run on the dollar, double-digit inflation, even a default, the Tea Party and GOP also agree -- federal spending that consumes 25 percent of GDP.

Both are also on the same page in their opposition to closing the deficit with new or higher taxes.

This means spending must be slashed. But to cut the budget to 20 percent of GDP, where it was before George W. Bush and Barack Obama, requires spending cuts of an astronomical $700 billion a year. Even then, the 2011 deficit would be $700 billion.

As interest on the debt must be paid, or we default, there are only two places you can find that kind of money. The first is the major entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security -- and social spending for education, veterans benefits, earned income tax credits and unemployment compensation.

But a Democratic Party, brutalized and bled on Nov. 2, returning to Capitol Hill with its moderate wing annihilated, is unlikely to collude with a resurgent Republican right and Tea Party caucus in hacking away at social programs that are the Democratic Party's pride and joy, and the reason that party exists.

Which leaves one place where a bipartisan majority may be found for major spending cuts: defense and the empire, the warfare state.

The "agonizing reappraisal" of commitments abroad that John Foster Dulles predicted half a century ago may be at hand.

And here is where the Tea Party and War Party split the blanket.

If Obama makes good on his pledge of full withdrawal of the 50,000 U.S. troops in Iraq by the end of 2011, will the Tea Party and Republican right oppose that withdrawal and join the War Party in demanding that we retain an army in Iraq indefinitely?

If Obama refuses to go to war against Iran, a war that would send oil prices soaring, close the Persian Gulf and be a disaster for the global economy, will the Tea Party join the War Party in denouncing Obama for not launching a third war in the Near East?

If Obama begins his promised withdrawal from Afghanistan next July, will Tea Party Republicans join the War Party and the generals in accusing Obama of inviting an American defeat? Subscribe to *Tea Party On Parade*

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#12. To: Brian S (#0)

The great issue uniting and motivating the Republican Party and Tea Party is the deficit-debt crisis, a national debt nearing 100 percent of gross domestic product and a deficit of 10 percent of GDP.

No, it's hatred for Obama, that's it.

go65  posted on  2010-10-03   22:11:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#12)

"...it's hatred for Obama, that's it."

Hogwash, Obamabot...Barry Hussein's a friggin' puppet, the anger uniting the TeaPartyin' ReaganConservatives goes WAAAY beyond disliking the KrazyKenyanKracker, my friend. Yer knee-jerk Leftist reaction betrays yer stubborn defense of the indefensible BigGuv'ment status quo. Do YOU receive yer substinance from the Federal Leviathan? You post like someone who's on the dole...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-10-03   22:24:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mudboy Slim (#14)

Hogwash, Obamabot...Barry Hussein's a friggin' puppet, the anger uniting the TeaPartyin' ReaganConservatives goes WAAAY beyond disliking the KrazyKenyanKracker, my friend. Yer knee-jerk Leftist reaction betrays yer stubborn defense of the indefensible BigGuv'ment status quo. Do YOU receive yer substinance from the Federal Leviathan? You post like someone who's on the dole...MUD

They weren't pissed under Bush. What happened between then and when the Tea Parties started?

Rhino  posted on  2010-10-04   0:21:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rhino (#15)

"They weren't pissed under Bush."

A lot of us have been pissed since we realized a Republican majority did not mean a conservative majority, and many of us abandoned the GOP to become Indies united in our belief that the Federal Leviathan has grown far too Powerful far too expensive, and simply unsustainable.

"What happened between then and when the Tea Parties started?"

The RAT-Messiah happened, my Rhino friend...instead of slowly turning up the heat to cook the frog, the Obamaation's unapologetically Marxist agenda shocked a lotta folks out of their bipartisan-caused lethargy. We cannot afford to keep wasting so much money at the Federal level, especially as we reward failure while punishing the Successful. If it'd been President Hillary, a similar backlash wouldda erupted, imho, and if McCain wouldda kept throwing borrowed money at present day problems, I think he wouldda got a taste of this, too. However, it's Obama who ignited the firestorm, and the RATS/RINOS who will continue to fear its bite...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-10-04   14:30:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mudboy Slim (#30)

A lot of us have been pissed since we realized a Republican majority did not mean a conservative majority, and many of us abandoned the GOP to become Indies united in our belief that the Federal Leviathan has grown far too Powerful far too expensive, and simply unsustainable.

On Nov 7 2008 and you'll be back Nov 5 2010. You aren't fooling anyone.

>The RAT-Messiah happened, my Rhino friend...instead of slowly turning up the heat to cook the frog, the Obamaation's unapologetically Marxist agenda shocked a lotta folks out of their bipartisan-caused lethargy.

What? Bush passed a larger socialize medicine bill than Obama did. Explain it.

>We cannot afford to keep wasting so much money at the Federal level, especially as we reward failure while punishing the Successful.

The largest discretionary program is the defense department. How about gutting it?

>If it'd been President Hillary, a similar backlash wouldda erupted, imho, and if McCain wouldda kept throwing borrowed money at present day problems, I think he wouldda got a taste of this, too.

Hillary to a somewhat lesser extend but mostly the same. McCain? Would have been welcomed as a Savior.

>However, it's Obama who ignited the firestorm, and the RATS/RINOS who will continue to fear its bite..

He only ignited a shit storm because of his party. If he was a republican you guys would be claiming he single handedly won the Iraq war, and his stimulus plan saved the country.

It's all partisan theatre. There is very little real difference between the Bush and Obama administrations.

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