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Title: Christine O'Donnell's 'Oxford' Tutor Speaks Out: 'Intelligent,' 'A Joy To Have'
Source: TPMDC
URL Source: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/ ... -intelligent-a-joy-to-have.php
Published: Oct 2, 2010
Author: Christina Bellantoni
Post Date: 2010-10-02 23:34:43 by Hondo68
Keywords: in Oxford, C.S. Lewis, intellectual and philosophical
Views: 52298
Comments: 103

When she attended a Phoenix Institute program in 2001, Christine O'Donnell was "a joy to have," her former tutor says. Bruce W. Griffin is speaking out on his former student, and says that O'Donnell would "add intellectual and philosophical depth" to the United States Senate should she win in November.

O'Donnell, the Republican nominee for Senate in Delaware, has represented herself as attending Oxford University on at least one and potentially many more occasions.

Griffin, an instructor and not a professor, wrote a detailed blog item saying that O'Donnell's thesis on cloning stood out in his mind as "one of the two best papers written for me that summer."

It's a relevant topic given that O'Donnell defeated Rep. Mike Castle in last month's Republican primary in part by telling evangelical voters he supported human cloning because he backs embryonic stem cell research. In addition to using the line on the campaign trail, O'Donnell supporters at phone banks read from a script provided by the Tea Party Express that pushed the cloning claim.

Griffin sent TPM his blog post detailing the three-week Phoenix Institute program focused on the "intellectual alternatives to the philosophical morass of postmodern moral relativism." Their text: C.S. Lewis' 1944 The Abolition of Man.

He said it was a summer job to do "a tutorial at Oxford on postmodernism and natural law."

"Christine O'Donnell was a joy to have in the tutorials: intelligent, engaged, dynamic, good with questions and interested in ideas" he wrote.

Griffin, who once wrote O'Donnell a recommendation to an Ivy league grad school, wrote up a full endorsement that he considers the course equivalent to "any graduate school at any university." From his posting:

The course we did that summer in Oxford is nearly a decade old, but the basic issues we addressed are eternal. Today, too many of the Republic's leaders have abandoned the natural law tradition of the Declaration of Independence for a murky moral relativism--a relativism that is both destructive of democratic values and philosophically bankrupt.

Christine O'Donnell would bring to the US Senate a deepened commitment to the philosophical convictions of the Founding Fathers at a time when the philosophical bankruptcy of too many leaders is mirrored in the economic bankruptcy of the federal government. She would surely add intellectual and philosophical depth to a Senate that at this point in its history badly needs both.

The title of Griffin's blog "Christine O'Donnell at Oxford" might suggest he believes that the Phoenix program was affiliated even though a Phoenix representative has told reporters that suggesting the two are linked is "misleading."

Here's how Griffin explains it:

Although we were never an Oxford University course, we drew heavily on the faculties of Oxford and Cambridge for our lectures. The organizers had put together a star-studded cast of lecturers, and partly as a result we drew students from Latin America, the US, and Europe.

In a followup interview, Griffin told TPM the Phoenix program was definitely not an Oxford course, but that it was more than just renting space at Oxford. "Our lecturers were drawn heavily from the Oxford faculty, and the opportunity to hear those lecturers was a critical reason for why our students came," he said.

FEC records show Griffin donated in 2008 to the McCain campaign but does not appear to be politically involved. He attended Liberty University for his bachelors degree and earned a degree in Jewish Studies at Oxford. Griffin is a doctorate candidate in Classics at Lincoln College, Oxford and currently teaches theology at Ave Maria University in Nicaragua.

Read his posting in full here.

TPM did a brief interview with Griffin via email. He said he believes the press has long slanted coverage favorably toward Democrats and that there's an attempt to paint O'Donnell as an "uneducated yahoo."

"[T]he tendency to slot O'Donnell into this stereotype is both unfortunate and untrue," he said. He also raised O'Donnell's rival Chris Coons (D) and his Yale thesis, a conservative meme that David Weigel debunked here. Coons addressed the "bearded Marxist" line from his thesis during his first debate with O'Donnell.

Griffin said the old video clips of O'Donnell are "irrelevant" and seem to take on an anti-Catholic subtext.

"Her statements on homosexuality and masturbation don't seem to differ in any respect from the Catechism of the Catholic Church," Griffin said. "I'd be sorry to think that acceptance of those beliefs was a legitimate cause for scorn and ridicule in a political campaign."

He said Irish Catholics have long been discriminated against and added, "As of 2010, the number of African-Americans to become president and the number of Irish Catholics to become president is exactly the same: one."


Poster Comment:

Casting pearls before the swine, trying to bring intellectual and philosophical depth to the Senate. It's worth a try though.

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

Griffin, an instructor and not a professor

On this blog he states that he was a doctoral student looking to pick up extra cash. He wasn't even an instructor; he did online tutoring.

"In the summer of 2001, I was a doctoral student in classics at the University of Oxford, and looking for summer employment. I signed on with a group called the Phoenix Institute to do a tutorial at Oxford on postmodernism and natural law."

It's sad the depths you'll go to in an effort to somehow make this bimbo more than what she is.

MUCH more.

Our own Mammy Yokum makes more sense - once you run her through the spell check.

war  posted on  2010-10-02   23:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

Our own Mammy Yokum makes more sense - once you run her through the spell check.

Hilarious coming from you, Hemingway.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-02   23:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rudgear (#2)

Hemingway was a minimalist, dickweed.

Tom Wolfe...F. Scott...FP Adams.

That's me.

war  posted on  2010-10-02   23:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

I hope she wins. I think she can and may.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-03   10:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#1)

War what is pathetic is the depths you go to to try and bring down anyone honorable. Are you truly evil?

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-03   10:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#3)

Hemingway was a minimalist, dickweed.

Tom Wolfe...F. Scott...FP Adams.

That's me.

No you are the Roseanne Barr of the forum. Foul mouthed white trash.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-03   10:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#1)

;}

An OMFG moment.

For instance. Imagine the War Room with this person in charge.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-03   10:42:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#5)

War what is pathetic is the depths you go to to try and bring down anyone honorable. Are you truly evil?

No, he's just very very small.

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-03   10:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone, war (#5)

Do you Really think O'Donnell is honorable?

You do realize how far she'd get if the Koch Bros or similar ilk weren't behind her.

See Rick Sanchez for details. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-03   10:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

Compared to Biden? Rangel? Waters? Owe-bama?

(laughing)

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-03   10:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#4)

When O'Donnell wins, the US will have to go to WWIII.

The US will be ungovernable.

" The primary target of the Tea Party is big government, but this ignores a major part of the big picture. The abuses of power we have seen are not purely a manifestation of metastatic public authority, but an expression of corporate fascism - the blending and merging of public and private interests in social control. One look at the revolving door between the banking system (where banking law is written) and the US treasury should be enough to demonstrate this."

-Stoneleigh-theautomaticearth.com

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-03   10:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#10)

Compared to Biden? Rangel? Waters? Owe-bama?

(laughing)

HEY I'm LMFAO as well.

The Big Joke following the Big Lie.

Tell it long enough and loud enough and most of the sheeple will believe it.

Like Rick Sanchez removed IMMEDIATELY. See how that happens. Step on the wron g toes and ALL OF A SUDDEN, there is action. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-03   10:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Badeye (#10)

Bet O'Donnell's checking the paperwork on HER maid?

LMFAO

Why is it that the Elite can't afford real live Americans.

And why is it, that 'forward looking sites like LF just can't. quite. find the time/energy to post same.

LMFAO Now THAt's truly LOL. 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2010-10-03   10:53:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mcgowanjm (#13)

Why is it that the Elite can't afford real live Americans.

O'Donnell is an 'elite'?

Gee, someone needs to make up their mind...lol

Obama's first all-by-his-lonesome budget, btw, calls for a $1.17 trillion deficit.

Badeye  posted on  2010-10-03   11:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mcgowanjm (#12) (Edited)

Like Rick Sanchez removed IMMEDIATELY. See how that happens.

He got a bad bottle of tequila, and then he was gone. Another globalist network will pick him up.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-10-03   11:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

No you are the Roseanne Barr of the forum. Foul mouthed white trash.

Chuckles...

And you're Tweedle Dee Dumb and Dumber...roly poly and clueless...

war  posted on  2010-10-03   12:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mcgowanjm (#9)

Do you Really think O'Donnell is honorable?

Stone, for all his posturing, will vote for anyone with an "R" beside their name.

He looks at O'Donnell and wishes that he could reach the heights of her over-achievement. Or depths in this case...

war  posted on  2010-10-03   12:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone, (#6)

No you are the Roseanne Barr of the forum. Foul mouthed white trash.

Yet your mouth is even more foul. Oh that's right.... you say you do it in the name of Jesus so it's a-okay with the big guy.

All you guys have nowadays are personality cults anyway.

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-03   12:20:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone, war (#6)

Hemingway was a minimalist, dickweed.

Tom Wolfe...F. Scott...FP Adams.

That's me.

No you are the Roseanne Barr of the forum. Foul mouthed white trash.

Hear, hear!!!

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-03   12:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone (#19)

#30. To: war (#22)

Barf bag, get your own house in order before you offer critiques of any other.

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-02 23:41:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#20. To: war (#18)

Are you upset because you were booked into the Motel 8 next to the only diet frozen yogurt bar in So Cal that wouldn’t take your post-op tranny coupon? Poor thing.

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-02 18:07:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#14. To: war (#12)

What? A trip to your gender-reassignment surgeon in California?

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-02 16:44:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#1073. To: war (#1072)

Post-op tranny.

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-02 16:02:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#21. To: war (#20)

See? More fag imagery. I told you to keep your Freudian slips to yourself. Now, be a good little Now, be a good little post-op tranny and FOAD.

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-02 16:01:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#1052. To: Skip Intro, mininggold (#1051)

I'd also appreciate a ping from you two assholes when you speculate.

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-01 12:28:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#1056. To: mininggold (#1054)

Thanks for getting around to pinging me. Drunken mimic. Ape what the stooge above you in rank says. Typical.

Rudgear posted on 2010-10-01 12:34:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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#12. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

Still here, drama queen? I thought you bailed long ago. You must be on your Barbara Streisand never ending farewell tour. Guess you can't give up those $.05 per post checks you get.

Rudgear posted on 2010-09-29 22:05:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

war  posted on  2010-10-03   12:39:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

YAWN! ALL RESPONSES TO YOU.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-03   12:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mininggold (#18)

Look you are really starting to bore me. If you have a problem with me. Send me a private message or leave the forum.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-10-03   12:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#17)

Stone, for all his posturing, will vote for anyone with an "R" beside their name.

Oh give it a rest.

You would suck the dick of any male Democrat (despite all your posturing of being an independent) before you would admit voting for any Republican.

That's not what's on my mind right now though. I'm rooting for your Steelers a lot more than you are, I promise you.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2010-10-03   12:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#21)

YAWN! ALL RESPONSES TO YOU.

You don't read so well, do you?

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-10-03   12:54:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#1)

On this blog he states that he was a doctoral student looking to pick up extra cash.

On his blog he identifies himself as a neocon

Then and now, I self-identified philosophically as a Thomist and politically as a neoconservative. But as a teacher, I didn't do indoctrination. The point of the tutorials was to help the students learn to think.

presidentaristotle2010.blogspot.com/

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-03   13:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lucysmom (#25)

FEC records show Griffin donated in 2008 to the McCain campaign

On his blog he identifies himself as a neocon

In the article too. He's a globalist libtard, for sure.

Hondo68  posted on  2010-10-03   13:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#5)

War what is pathetic is the depths you go to to try and bring down anyone honorable. Are you truly evil?

Bruce Griffin identifies himself as a neoconservative.

For the neoconservatives, religion is an instrument of promoting morality. Religion becomes what Plato called a noble lie. It is a myth which is told to the majority of the society by the philosophical elite in order to ensure social order... In being a kind of secretive elitist approach, Straussianism does resemble Marxism. These ex-Marxists, or in some cases ex-liberal Straussians, could see themselves as a kind of Leninist group, you know, who have this covert vision which they want to use to effect change in history, while concealing parts of it from people incapable of understanding it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

How do you define honorable?

lucysmom  posted on  2010-10-03   13:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Skip Intro (#24)

DELETED NONSENSE

mininggold  posted on  2010-10-03   13:49:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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war  posted on  2010-10-03   18:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#30)

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Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-03   18:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike, war, fred mertz, mininggold (#31)

You folks show amazing solidarity. Reminds me of the above clip.

Well, [war's] got to do something for attention, his multiple personalities aren't speaking to him any more, and his imaginary friends keep finding excuses not to come over. (Murron)

Rudgear  posted on  2010-10-03   18:12:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rudgear (#32)

lmao...you hit the nail. That's is the funniest part of the intire movie. I'm a collector of classic movies, right now I'm putting together a library of silent films, rare and hard to find.

"I really wanna care. I wanna feel somethin'. Let me dig a little deeper:. No, My give-a-damn's busted"~ Messina Jo Dee

Murron  posted on  2010-10-03   18:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#31) (Edited)

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Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-10-03   18:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#31) (Edited)

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war  posted on  2010-10-03   18:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#21) (Edited)

and again...

war  posted on  2010-10-03   18:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

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war  posted on  2010-10-03   18:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#38)

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Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-03   18:26:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war, A K A Stone (#38)

You act like you've been drinking too many beers while watching college football games.

Guess I was wrong to try to give you the benefit of doubt. You are always going to run this place with more directions from your gonads then from your brain.


Les personnes faibles ne peuvent être sincères.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-10-03   18:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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